In my opinion Shiryu wins, seemingly u need future sight to see him since Coby couldn’t and he has good observation haki which Zoro doesn’t have, and Zoro is not surviving getting impaled like Garp, even multiple time if necessary, I also think Lucci vs Zoro is way closer
There’s a way to remove choices once you land on them so you don’t get repeats. Although a fun additional rule could be if you get a repeat they have to win 10/10, you’re 100% confident they’d win or else the video ends. So like if it landed on Sanji instead of Luffy at the end the video would have still ended 😈
Finally People forget he was wheezing like buckets🤣 He also took damage off screen and couldn’t impress Lucci with his max ap amped by Sanji’s competitiveness
@@ashlol1839 Zoro is still stronger . Y’all gotta remember they was already fighting before it was Zoro vs lucci. Y’all don’t be realizing stuff be going the way it do because of what’s going on and for what happened
@@Shawn_G9 i mean yeah everyone agrees zoro is stronger And lucci was also fighting before he fought zoro they all fought the seraphins and lucci also fought luffy before that Ppl just underrate lucci oda had to put zoro aside to give luffy his nika spotlight The fight we got in manga doesnt make sense at all.
Goated vid I love the concept bro. ALSO hear me out. Make a "spin wheel until X loses" vid, but invite someone else in the vid. Then, each time a character is chosen, one of you plays devil's advocate to argue for the other character to win, no matter how ridiculous the argument. Say "spin the wheel until Shanks loses". You get idk a friend or your boyfriend over, spin the wheel it lands on Mihawk. Then that guy will try to say stuff like "actually strongest swordsman means most skilled, not overall powerful! Plus Vista = Mihawk and Shanks = Whitebeard!" Just an example. Keep up the good content regardless
9:00 Those panels actively hurt your argument. "putting up a good fight, handicap or not" is enough on its own to undermine you, but the other panel is Sakazuki himself taking your exact argument and throwing it down the toilet.
@SuperiorI.Q I agree that Akainu wants the job done regardless of circumstances and won't accept any compromises of any sort, if that's what you mean. I'm not arguing that Karasu would have been able to fight an admiral without the advantageous circumstances provided in Marygeoise. But from a powerscaling perspective, it means that the the Admirals couldn't beat the rev commanders fast enough without using large scale devil-fruit attacks. That is just proven fact within the story. A literal interpretation would make Morley and Karasu each significantly stronger than the King and Queen Ryukugyu fought combined. I don't actually believe they are that strong, just that they have to be ≈ king or queen for it to make any sense. I don't think that Karasu is stronger than Zoro, just that there's no evidence that Zoro would be able to fight an Admiral as well as they did under those same circumstances. Thus, the best argument zoro has is narrative, not feats. I do think that Sabo was stronger than current Zoro even before eating his devil fruit, but that's my only disagreement with the matchups you talked about.
@red_fanJake thanks, I didn't know that Like had u seen my comment? marco overall is goated, but am talking abt strength and row power ,he isn't a vice cap lvl
I dont know where this started Probably one of these braindead people with trash takes But Yasopp is 2nd commander of the Red haires pirates In literally everything yasopp is shown and moved to be the 2nd commander He has insanely powerful Haki (nuking ships casually) Has future sight on 24/7 Even in his Walk out with shanks At wb's and Ace grave Shanks walked Beck followed Then yasopp After lucky roux was the last to follow Shanks - yonko Commanders Ben beckman Yasopp Lucky roux Also Katakuri neg diffa zoro as would Yasopp
I forget Zoro has observation, and honestly I'd wish he didn't just so we can keep the Zoro has no sense of direction gag as pure as possible. Edit: and he clearly didn't see how defeating Rob Lucci would be beneficial to everyone. Mid dif.
Loved the ved, but could you do deresss Rosa sanji vs. doflamingo we all know the main reason sanji lost was because he didn't know doflamingos haxs Edit it would be interesting to see if sanji has a fighting chance
I don't believe Zoro could withstand Ifrit. As stated by Jabra, Diable Jambe burned his insides. That's a basic level attack, if Sanji lands a combo on Zoro how he did Queen Zoro won't survive!
Imo sanji cant blitz zoro till we see him blitz a character that isnt queen. Because queen was still hitting sanji and zoro being able to be blitzed by king. Abetter feat. And also zoro fighting kaido who blitzed a future sight luffy could put zoros combat speed above zoro
man idk bout that one…. Yes luffy is stronger than Zoro, but slash attacks are luffys only weakness besides deception. If Zoro actually wanted to cut luffy I think it would happen.
The Zorotards are really that feared huh 😭 Sanji mid diffs Zoro cope tf harder. “The fight starts and Sanji disappears” also Zoro still needs to be significantly better at aerial attacks to really give fighters like Sanji trouble, and as of right now I’m ngl he has not even gotten close to perfecting his aerial attacks he needs to be launched to this day. Which is crazy to me because I really expected Oda to give that much to Zoro.
powercreep on kat is an L take imo king was a hakiless bum with hax kat has better showings than king imo i dont think op really scales that linear kat vs zoro would be ext diff
also tbh do we not think garp could also body zoro atp? garp has some of the highest physical strength in the verse not saying he beats zoro tho just saying garp would do zoro just like he did shiryu
Yes and even then you could argue it was only that because Zoro let it be mid diff. The moment he got serious he put Awakened Lucci in critical condition without even using a KOH style move. He has about 10 stronger attacks than what he used in his back pocket and we also didn't even see him get hit once.
@nikjovan4816 lucci was extremely weakened when zoro did that and even then lucci wasn't really put down. We didn't see lucci hit zoro because most the fight was offscreened.
@odin.... I give you that Lucci was weakened from fighting Luffy. But Lucci was so badly injured from Zoro that the next time he moved he collapsed out of his Awakened form. If Jinbei wasn't there Zoro would just cut him down and actually kill him. And yes it was offscreened, but just like how I can say Zoro didn't get hit once because it was offscreen, you can say Zoro got hit but it was offscreen. We can't prove either so it's kind of a pointless argument. But even if Zoro got hit they were just scratches and no real damage or big moves landed on him.
@nikjovan4816 he wasn't just weakened from his fight with luffy, he was weakened from his fight with zoro. That's why lucci went down so easily. Zoro was barely able to fight by the end of it, so honestly the only reason it's a mid diff fight and not extreme diff is because zoro wasn't going full power We can tell they were hitting each other based on the panting and scratches they have on each other.
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This man always has a plate of food ready 😭😭😭
Video ends when the wheel lands on smoker 🐐
8/10. Like the new format. Would have been 10/10 if Sanji won 🗿
Do "Video ends when Gaimon loses a fight", better be ready for a long one.
nah gaimon solos imu sama
In my opinion Shiryu wins, seemingly u need future sight to see him since Coby couldn’t and he has good observation haki which Zoro doesn’t have, and Zoro is not surviving getting impaled like Garp, even multiple time if necessary, I also think Lucci vs Zoro is way closer
My man’s said katakuri is not that guy” 😭😭😭I was rolllling
There’s a way to remove choices once you land on them so you don’t get repeats.
Although a fun additional rule could be if you get a repeat they have to win 10/10, you’re 100% confident they’d win or else the video ends.
So like if it landed on Sanji instead of Luffy at the end the video would have still ended 😈
Oh sht thanks for letting me know! The video should of Lowkey ended tho when it landed on sanji
I have seen people say gear 5 and zoro have the same attack power before
The only thing what were I would say it’s a “maybe“ is the stamina and endurance
@@saythatonemoretime9719 stamina zoro def has over luffy. luffy's weakest point is his stamina.
@@XenonitalI mean luffy is very comfortable with G4 so as of now get Zoro past G4 and then we’ll talk about the stamina issue
@@dangbruh3000 kizaru one shot luffy out of g4 quit playing around. With an unnamed attack.
no haki claws rob wucci = king of hell zoro
No bruh😂
Finally
People forget he was wheezing like buckets🤣
He also took damage off screen and couldn’t impress Lucci with his max ap amped by Sanji’s competitiveness
@@ashlol1839 Zoro is still stronger . Y’all gotta remember they was already fighting before it was Zoro vs lucci. Y’all don’t be realizing stuff be going the way it do because of what’s going on and for what happened
@@Shawn_G9 i mean yeah everyone agrees zoro is stronger
And lucci was also fighting before he fought zoro they all fought the seraphins and lucci also fought luffy before that
Ppl just underrate lucci oda had to put zoro aside to give luffy his nika spotlight
The fight we got in manga doesnt make sense at all.
@@Shawn_G9 ye but Lucci is relative to Zoro
Zoro had marks indicating he took damage offscreen
2 Questions:
1. Is Luffy just rollng over zoro like he's not a big deal?
2. Do you not think that Zoro has any win conditions against Luffy?
1. Yes as in he doesn’t need gear 5
2. No
Video ended on Marco
No
LMAO this is killing me c because of the pfp too😭
Zoro would
Beat Marco bruh
Goated vid I love the concept bro.
ALSO hear me out.
Make a "spin wheel until X loses" vid, but invite someone else in the vid. Then, each time a character is chosen, one of you plays devil's advocate to argue for the other character to win, no matter how ridiculous the argument.
Say "spin the wheel until Shanks loses". You get idk a friend or your boyfriend over, spin the wheel it lands on Mihawk. Then that guy will try to say stuff like "actually strongest swordsman means most skilled, not overall powerful! Plus Vista = Mihawk and Shanks = Whitebeard!"
Just an example. Keep up the good content regardless
This sounds awesome maybe after I do a few more I can find someone to implement this with! Thanks bro❤️ But wdym
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peak after peak
Goated video but Marco folds Zoro
5:36 yasopp need some more display of power ngl . Its kinda tough putting him over kat or a king or Doflamingo
Do one of these with Garp!!!
9:00 Those panels actively hurt your argument. "putting up a good fight, handicap or not" is enough on its own to undermine you, but the other panel is Sakazuki himself taking your exact argument and throwing it down the toilet.
It really doesn’t when you understand the type of person Akainu is
@SuperiorI.Q I agree that Akainu wants the job done regardless of circumstances and won't accept any compromises of any sort, if that's what you mean.
I'm not arguing that Karasu would have been able to fight an admiral without the advantageous circumstances provided in Marygeoise. But from a powerscaling perspective, it means that the the Admirals couldn't beat the rev commanders fast enough without using large scale devil-fruit attacks. That is just proven fact within the story.
A literal interpretation would make Morley and Karasu each significantly stronger than the King and Queen Ryukugyu fought combined. I don't actually believe they are that strong, just that they have to be ≈ king or queen for it to make any sense.
I don't think that Karasu is stronger than Zoro, just that there's no evidence that Zoro would be able to fight an Admiral as well as they did under those same circumstances. Thus, the best argument zoro has is narrative, not feats.
I do think that Sabo was stronger than current Zoro even before eating his devil fruit, but that's my only disagreement with the matchups you talked about.
8:06 Zoro would mid-high diff currently bruh
🔥video idea I’m seated
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Thanks king ❤️❤️❤️
@ thanks king is crazy
@@lolphenomliveyou my king bro
@@SuperiorI.Q if u say so
3:29
W
Marco is just a fast moving tank but he can't hit hard as vice captain lvl characters
he is a vice captain lv char ;-;
@red_fanJake thanks, I didn't know that
Like had u seen my comment?
marco overall is goated, but am talking abt strength and row power ,he isn't a vice cap lvl
@@why___me true tho,,, he lacks Raw power
I would say sanji = zoro but i am ok with zoro > sanji (extreme diff)
Nah Yasopp vs Zoro is an extreme diff fight and im a fat zoro glazer
I hate admirals (save for kuzan) but do 1 with akainu
I dont know where this started Probably one of these braindead people with trash takes
But
Yasopp is 2nd commander of the Red haires pirates
In literally everything yasopp is shown and moved to be the 2nd commander
He has insanely powerful Haki (nuking ships casually)
Has future sight on 24/7
Even in his Walk out with shanks
At wb's and Ace grave
Shanks walked
Beck followed
Then yasopp
After lucky roux was the last to follow
Shanks - yonko
Commanders
Ben beckman
Yasopp
Lucky roux
Also Katakuri neg diffa zoro as would Yasopp
That was a fun 1 ☝️
I forget Zoro has observation, and honestly I'd wish he didn't just so we can keep the Zoro has no sense of direction gag as pure as possible. Edit: and he clearly didn't see how defeating Rob Lucci would be beneficial to everyone. Mid dif.
Zoro is too loyal to beat Luffy
Admiral's next?!
Or yamato the king daughter
Talk about underestimating Yassop and overating Zoro.
Luffy Low-diffs Zoro.
Yea man he low diffs Zoro and neg diffs the rest at once
Loved the ved, but could you do deresss Rosa sanji vs. doflamingo we all know the main reason sanji lost was because he didn't know doflamingos haxs
Edit it would be interesting to see if sanji has a fighting chance
😅that’s definitely something
@SuperiorI.Q do it for Sanji
Every Zoro fan raging
Vid ended at Yassop
I don't believe Zoro could withstand Ifrit. As stated by Jabra, Diable Jambe burned his insides. That's a basic level attack, if Sanji lands a combo on Zoro how he did Queen Zoro won't survive!
Do a what if aikainu killed Koby im marineford,,what does ggarp do?? Day 2 of asking
Imo sanji cant blitz zoro till we see him blitz a character that isnt queen. Because queen was still hitting sanji and zoro being able to be blitzed by king. Abetter feat. And also zoro fighting kaido who blitzed a future sight luffy could put zoros combat speed above zoro
man idk bout that one…. Yes luffy is stronger than Zoro, but slash attacks are luffys only weakness besides deception. If Zoro actually wanted to cut luffy I think it would happen.
rah
Marco and Yassop beat Zorro and him vs Sanji is a draw
The Zorotards are really that feared huh 😭 Sanji mid diffs Zoro cope tf harder. “The fight starts and Sanji disappears” also Zoro still needs to be significantly better at aerial attacks to really give fighters like Sanji trouble, and as of right now I’m ngl he has not even gotten close to perfecting his aerial attacks he needs to be launched to this day. Which is crazy to me because I really expected Oda to give that much to Zoro.
Luffy> Zoro low diff
Luffy> all the rest at once neg diff
Base Lucci>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Zoro my king can beat anyone he would no diff characters like Roger Imu and rocks 🥱🥱🥱
Facts
Zoro .. fanboy really toxic fr 😂 ... Like watch whole video ... What I mean u know right 😂
Should've ended at Marco. You don't know how to scale.
powercreep on kat is an L take imo king was a hakiless bum with hax kat has better showings than king imo i dont think op really scales that linear kat vs zoro would be ext diff
also tbh do we not think garp could also body zoro atp? garp has some of the highest physical strength in the verse not saying he beats zoro tho just saying garp would do zoro just like he did shiryu
@@trop1killit’s debatable if old garp can beat current Zoro
@ on fent
@@trop1kill huh
@ that’s what your on fentanyl
Zoro never loses, L sanji glaze lol
9:48 Zoro would beat sanji high -extreme diff .
Zoro vs lucci is a mid diff fight
high maybe extereme if u glaze lucci tho
Yes and even then you could argue it was only that because Zoro let it be mid diff. The moment he got serious he put Awakened Lucci in critical condition without even using a KOH style move. He has about 10 stronger attacks than what he used in his back pocket and we also didn't even see him get hit once.
@nikjovan4816 lucci was extremely weakened when zoro did that and even then lucci wasn't really put down. We didn't see lucci hit zoro because most the fight was offscreened.
@odin.... I give you that Lucci was weakened from fighting Luffy. But Lucci was so badly injured from Zoro that the next time he moved he collapsed out of his Awakened form. If Jinbei wasn't there Zoro would just cut him down and actually kill him. And yes it was offscreened, but just like how I can say Zoro didn't get hit once because it was offscreen, you can say Zoro got hit but it was offscreen. We can't prove either so it's kind of a pointless argument. But even if Zoro got hit they were just scratches and no real damage or big moves landed on him.
@nikjovan4816 he wasn't just weakened from his fight with luffy, he was weakened from his fight with zoro. That's why lucci went down so easily. Zoro was barely able to fight by the end of it, so honestly the only reason it's a mid diff fight and not extreme diff is because zoro wasn't going full power
We can tell they were hitting each other based on the panting and scratches they have on each other.
zoro slams luffy
Bait
fax
Troll
Lose against base lucci 🥱