FYT {Class} 12.3'" Android Head Unit - User Interface and Options Review...
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- In this video, I review the User Interface, Options, Features and Setup of the 12.3" DAINAV {CLASS} Android Radio unit.
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is Android Auto wireless possible?
i saw for some of these 12.3" unit ads that they offer wireless CarPlay, but wired only Android Auto...
@@cocollinz I’m not sure. I don’t have Android, but will ask some folks in the forum that are using this unit with Android.
@@cocollinz I got confirmation from someone using Android Auto that unit does support wired/wireless for Android Auto.
Hello Santrix,
Trust you are well.
Is the Dainav(Class) 12.3" Head Unit still compatible with iOS or is there another unit?
Thanks
Zack
Yes. This unit is compatible with Apple CarPlay out of the box. In fact, that’s mainly how I use it. Connection to wireless CarPlay is very reliable.
Great job! i'd like to install this item on my macan s my2015 instead of pcm3.1. i've bose sound system and i'd like to maintain the audio system. Can i use the same fiber optic converter used in pcm4 or i need something else? Thank you very much
I’m not sure I understand your question, but, if you have PCM3.1 you need to use a MOST25 fiber converter. PCM4.0 uses MOST150 and is not compatible, hence they can’t be used interchangeable.
Is there a unit like this that fits in the standard 2015 S space rather than relocating the vents? I'd like a modern glass screen and carplay but I don't want to move the vents from stock.
Yes, there are options. A search in AliExpress should provide some options, like this: www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806275287917.html?algo_pvid=3dfe8f45-d62f-4d6e-a9d4-45da5117b9c5&algo_exp_id=3dfe8f45-d62f-4d6e-a9d4-45da5117b9c5-27&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21USD%21568.56%21244.48%21%21%21568.56%21244.48%21%402103080717115857324033048ed903%2112000037281545699%21sea%21US%213773514865%21&curPageLogUid=ktcu9g9D9miC&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch%7Cquery_from%3A
Great videos detailing your journey to the current DaiNav unit. I have confirmed the vendor has these for RHD as I am in Australia. As I also wish to upgrade my stereo speakers after installing the DaiNav head unit, is there any feature or cabling I should ensure I get from the vendor so that I dont compromise my options for the stereo upgrade later?? Thanks.
I would recommend you take a look at my audio build here: www.diymobileaudio.com/threads/my-2015-porsche-macan-audio-upgrade-log.432348/
In that write up, I detail my complete audio upgrade. If your plan is to replace the amplifier eventually with an aftermarket one (with TOSLINK input), I would recommend you get a long toslink cable and connect it to the rear of the DAINAV unit and leave it in an accessible place so that you can run it to the rear later on. Other than that, I don’t think there is anything else you need to do now. Thanks for watching and for your support. Looking forward to hear about your installation. Please come back and comment!
What is the best model to buy?I know they have it now with out the speed limit logo.Can you send me the link?Thanks
Thanks for watching. The link is in the video description (all the links you need actually).
Yes, they don’t have the red speed dot anymore.
Where can I buy this unit for my Panamera 970 2013 ?
Check on AliExpress. You can also check on Rennlist: rennlist.com/forums/991/1045332-has-anyone-done-a-carplay-retrofit-for-991-1-a-153.html#post19353251
Talk to user ZedZed, he installed a similar unit in a Panamera.
I'm still fighting to get the DSP working properly. Have you ever had that issue? All of my speaker play at the same volume no matter how I set the bias. I was told by the factory that has to do with the CANBUS unit. The CANBUS screen says I have LuZheng, Porsche, Macan which seems correct. Any suggestions?
BTW, I think this is the Fiber Optic Decoder Most that you replaced with one off Amazon - but I'm not really sure. I bought that but have not installed it because it lacks the fiber optic link to the radio control unit that the original has.
Do you have Bose or an aftermarket amp? The output levels and channel gains are set in the amplifier, and if you have Bose there is no access to it. I think you can have some control over subwoofer from the unit, but I think that’s it. The DSP in the unit allows you to tune the audio using a number of frequency ranges. It is more helpful than the PCM3.1 which only has treble and bass. I don’t think this is a function of the CANBUS. CANBUS is the interface with car functions. And you do have the right selection in the CANBUS.
You can get now a SPDIF to MOST conversion box in AliExpress. I will post link later on. But I can tell you that the Amazon box, although it uses the analog input, it has more definition in its output.
@@porscheDIY Thanks. I've written to the seller for help. They are the ones who asked about CANBUS but might not have know if that was the correct issue to chase. I've also asked about 3 other things. #1 - The right screen of the instrument cluster shows the radio station playing. If I push the rotary knob, I go to the next screen that should list programmed channels. But programmed channels do not list (they should). I can scroll the knob in one direction to change channels down numerically, but not up. #2 is that zoning does not work. No matter where I set the bias (back right, left front) the music always sounds the same. #3 is that My SIM card does not read.
I'll let you know if they have any helpful feedback.
Hi first thank you so much for the video this was very helpful. I want to ask if you are able to share the theme/interface you have/ is this something that I can change? I purchased the same unit but from a different supplier and really like the looks of this one better. 0:46
@@dan6698 I’m not sure. I’ll have to verify if I can extract it. I do have an update file they sent and I will check there…. In the meantime, if you want to change your boot up logo, check the following link for some images: drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Mz6hdmExHG3C8-b1VgBY-ZrS3wLR63mF
Also, if you want to change the boot up animation, go to following link and copy the two files into usb drive, then connect the usb drive to the data port of the unit. This animation shows the traditional Porsche crest in a nice animation I created: drive.google.com/drive/folders/1b08OmsHU5GjAl1SOv7m-z5XlWggdh987
Very cool I will be doing this along with your joker button upgrade. Thank you for all the work you do!
Jak po kilku miesiącach sprawuje Ci się stacja? Czy masz z nią jakieś problemy? Zastanawiam się, czy swojej nie zmienić na tą co ty masz. Pozdrawiam
Is working very well so far.
Great job mr Santrix!!!
I have a question....my unit recognizes the USB, but the Music Player screen would not show the tracks nor I can play directly from the USB.
Do you happen to know how to do this? Thanks in Advance.
I’m not sure and I haven’t used this capability. Did you solve the issue?
Yes, thank you. After playing with the menus and settings for a couple of days, to my utter delight, found it to be working all of a sudden!
Can I still access the Porsche menu's?
If you look at the video, you’ll see that you will still have access to Canbus related controls from the Android unit. But you will lose certain things that you have with PCM. In my case, and most of who have done this change, these are things that are really not important and never used and actually don’t even miss right now.
You will also lose communication between PCM and MFD. There is a wire that connects between the two that you won’t be using anymore. That is sending nav and music information to the MFD.
Thank you for the review. Do you use OEM mic with that unit?
You know, I’m not sure. I didn’t install any external mic. It works well. What I think is either this one ties up automatically to OEM mic or kit does have its own mic in the unit itself. I think is the latter….
I need the piece in the middle to cover the red warning can you share the link?
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Hi Santrix, I’m installing my unit, but I happen to have no sound. Do you have any ideas or suggestions for me? Is there an installation manual?
There is no installation manual. Did you follow my installation video? Did you have PCM3.1 with Bose? If so, did you wire the MOST25 converter appropriately?
@@porscheDIY I just managed to do that :) sound works great now. But still trying to figure out my rear view camera
@@astrokok Rear view camera is a yellow RCA connector that comes out of the quad hardness adapter, and it connects to another wire that goes to the rear of the unit. You’ll see that in my video. If the connection is OK, then a few things you need to check. You need to go to hidden menu in settings (the one that ask you for a passcode), the passcode is 3368, and change rear view camera parameters there. If you have a single rear view camera and the settings are for surround, you will have issues. The settings need to match what you have. If the settings are fine, you need to remember that when placing car in reverse, you need to take e-brake off in order for the camera to activate.
This new radio unit is amazing. I installed a 10.4" unit 3 years ago and to get a much larger GPS screen. It was a big improvement over the car's original screen - but with some issues. THIS 12.3" unit improves radio reception, screen clarity, speed, volume adjustment between GPS voice and radio (you can make the GPS a bit louder than the radio), internet connectivity, etc. Very nice looking and very nice upgrade to my 2016 Macan.
Thanks for sharing your experience. It really changes and modernizes the cabin interior.
hello everything is fine? I loved the video. I have a 2015 Macan turbo, tell me if you recommend purchasing it and if I missed any functions like Sport chrono?
I love the 12.3” screen. The only features you’ll lose is whatever sport chrono displays you’ll have in PCM. But you still keep MFD sport chrono display and full sport chrono functionality. You also lose the connection to MFD, so any information you have now like maps is lost. But in my case, these were features I would not use… ever. Thanks for watching.
Thanks!
@@dan6698 Thanks so much…☺️
have purchased a very similar unit for my range rover. Lots of people on line slatting me saying the audio quality from these android units is shit. How do you find the sound quality?
Thanks for watching! The audio quality is as good, if not better, than PCM. You also have more options for tuning with the equalizer, vs bass and treble in PCM.
Hi Santirx!
Thanks so much for making this video as I'm doing the same headunit replacement on my Macan S because mine just kinda blacked out on its own. Just a question about the mod itself. Is there any feature I'd be losing by goign with an aftermarket headunit in comparison to getting a new OEM headunit?
I believe I talk about this in either this or the installation video. You will lose PCM communication with instrument cluster, hence, you won’t have the map or gps options in the MFD. If you have intersection lighting, you will lose that too as it depends on GPS location to turn both static cornering lights on at the same time when you approach an intersection. Note that static cornering light will still work because that will activate with steering wheel. You also will lose altitude information. I believe that’s all.
Hello, which one did you purchase I see there is several links but different prices? Do the vents work well after the change? Also, any issues such as having to reprogram at the dealership or problems after installation? Very interested in buying it looks amazing! Great informative videos 😊
I purchased the DaiNav unit. The vents are functional… you will lose a bit of flow, but it is not that much. No need to reprogram anything at the dealership. If you connect a diagnostic tool, you will see a couple of passive faults related to the removal of the PCM, but that are passive and nothing that will impede function of the vehicle. You won’t even see those faults unless you connect a diagnostic tool. You will lose the PCM integration in the MultiFunction display, like the maps and ability to see what is playing.
Let me know if you have any other questions. Thanks for watching and for your support!…. Hope you are subscribed to the channel.
Thanks!
Thanks man! Much appreciated.
Thanks for your hard work!! I really appreciate it. By the way ,if I ask you to do mine , are you be able to do it ? Which state are you ?
Thanks for your kind words. The reason I do these videos is so that I don’t have to do other installations. I think that if you decide to do it, you can do it.
Hi
What about the camera upgrade can you share some info ??
Thanks for watching. Yes, that video will be coming out soon. I changed the original camera with the same model but newer version. Much better video quality.
Thanks for your videos.Is this model the best in the market?
I can’t say if it is the best… I have not tested all. But is pretty reliable. It has some annoyances that we are trying to solve, but the vendor is not very helpful, like many other vendors in aliexpress. I like this particular unit more than the other one I had because it has a more OEM look.
One small question: do the white bars in the vent airflow regulation wheels illuminate when the lights turn on, like the OEM version of the vents do?
No they don’t.
@@porscheDIY many thanks for the quick reply
With all the research you’ve done, I trust your judgement on which Android unit to consider. Before I jump into this one, do know if the units with “NAV, BT” soft buttons suddenly showing up on Alli are the newest ones, or probably previous to the one you installed? Also, did you ever consider the 8” unit from Yanav? It appears to be running the same hardware and version, just on a screen that fits the factory hole. Thanks for your videos - you’re very helpful. -Greg in New Orleans
Hey Greg! Thanks for your support. On your questions…. The unit that said NAV, BT, etc… were early testing units. They changed that to the skip buttons. These are programmable buttons, you can change the function. I saw other Android units but figured that it was not worth it in my view, as they are not significantly different from PCM screen size and rather would stay with PCM. That was my rationale.
I guess the wider screen does make it worth it. I’m pretty sure I’m going to jump into this. I assume you went for the highest memory/RAM option? We’re you able to retain the factory rear camera? Any thoughts on adding a front camera? AliExpress has a kit that snaps into the grill for a factory look. I’d love the 3D option, but doubt I want that level of tinkering to get it right.
@@gregr8349 Yes, I went for higher mem/ram. Not sure one needs that though. Probably the cheaper model with less memory will do as well for what I use it for. Yes, it preserves the factory camera. I didn’t install any additional camera. I’m OK with reverse only.
Do you know of a similar unit with Apple CarPlay?
All these units run on Android OS. However, as you can see in the video, I run CarPlay on it. These type of units will allow you to run either CarPlay or Android Auto. So, if you use CarPlay, you’ll be fine with this unit.
Hi, in order to upgrade the stereo did you change the dash trim and the Air vents? If you did it where did you buy them?
I need help with my cables, my camera doesnt work and i have no sound. Can someone please help me?
Did you solve your issue? There is a wire that had a RCA connector which connects to the rear of the unit… you connect that yellow RCA to the RCA plug coming out of the Quad cable adapter. To test, you need to release e-brake and put in reverse. If that doesn’t work, you need to go into settings (hidden menu) and make sure you select the right camera configuration. If you have 360, you need to select that. If you have rear view, then select rear view only. The passcode for hidden menu is 3368.
On the sound, make sure you check wiring on the MOST25 converter box. See video again.
@@porscheDIY will check thx!
@@porscheDIY Is that different for pcm 4.0? I have a connector with double optics cable going to the pcm 4.0 converter box
@@dannythebest1008 Oh, I didn’t know you had PCM4.0. PCM4.0 uses MOST150 and you will need a specific converter box for MOST150. Most of the converter boxes out there are for MOST25, which is what PCM3.1 use.
Did you tell the seller that you had PCM4 and that you needed a MOST150 converter?
Cześć, jaki system jest w tym radiu (TS10?) czy coś innego? Możesz podać specyfikę tego radia. Na aliexpress są tylko ogólne dane. Zastanawiam się nad wymianą mojego właśnie na ten model co Ty masz.
I’m not sure, I’m not an expert in Android radio OS. But if you let me know specifically what you want to see, I can provide the information to you.
Cześć, czy wyszły jakieś aktualizacje oprogramowania? I czy coś poprawiły?
Hi, thank you for sharing. Question - just received something similar for Panamera...but cant seem to figure out why i dont have video for my 360degree cameras..is there any settings that i need to do? Thanks
Try this: BACK UP CAM
For back up video , go into factory settings, and look for “Switch Backup Camera”
Set that to default , and reboot, and test. If you need a code to access factory settings, use 3368.
Also, make sure CanBus is set to Cayanne High or Macan High
Thank you...working now.
@@dallyde I’m glad you got this to work. I missed your Panamera comment and assumed you had the Macan. So Canbus correspondingly needs to be in Panamera High. It seems you addressed this.
Yes all good. I didn't know that I have to reboot the system after all the settings ,. Now i am waiting the sound modulator ( the one that u recommended) as the one that came with is not that great . Also probably will do this to my wife's macan....can't get away 😅
I have this unit. DAINAV will not respond to support requests. Anyone else ????
You are correct Teddis. Is unfortunate that after-sales support on this unit is so bad. I can’t, in good conscience, continue to recommend DaiNav. I’m going to have to rescore the SANTIRX’s score based on the after-sales support to 0 with DaiNav. With a score of 0, this unit gets an overall recalculated score of 68.
Wow, with all of your followers this will hurt them, too bad it has fallen from grace..@@porscheDIY
We were able to get DaiNav to respond to some of our requests. They finally sent me the launcher update. And they are investigating other potential updates.
There is still no response from DAINAV……anyone else ?
Nice install
Does the dashboard still show the radio channels, Music info etc. ? And can you still use the steering wheel controls to adjust sound etc?
Thanks
Thanks. No, the information you refer to comes from PCM. Since PCM is removed, there is no way to connect the Fakra wire that sends signal to the instrument panel MFD. On the steering wheel control, only a few controls remain. I describe that in detail in this video.
Thanks. Would you recommend buying the unit in overall? I think it makes the interior look a couple of years new contra the OEM one.@@porscheDIY
@@JonasSkriver If I had to do this again, I would. Like you said, and I think I said in the video, this unit transforms the interior of the car. It makes it look more modern. It had reduced the amount of times I think about trading my Macan.
@@porscheDIY Thank you for great videos. I see they releasede the Unit without red logo in the middle and OEM looking buttons. I bought the new version and I Think you videos Will do a great help installing it.
@@JonasSkriver did they? I have to check that. I covered the red dot with an NFC button in gloss black which do a good job at covering it. I also programmed the NFC to open my WiFi connection automatically for the rare times when CarPlay doesn’t connect automatically. I also added the OEM buttons myself. Had to drill a bit to open them up.