@ I’m not a content creator so I can’t really tell but as a viewer I feel like 99% of the views will come from the subject you tackle and the title/thumbnail. I think most people want to see new tools and trends like this. Anyways what matters is doing what you want and being proud of what you publish.
I actually like this. Your face and expression are visible, and still the content has majority of the screen. Another channel I like similar to yours, recently decided to show his split keyboard instead of actual content.
For us oldies, that undescriptive "quick mode" is actually a "Quake mode" since that was how a terminal in Quake game was portrayed. As it was quite popular, many other terminals (even Windows Terminal) support this mode. Ghostty should have adopted a well known name instead of inventing a dull new name.
Agreed a thousand percent. Tilix has done this for 20 years now, both the splitting and Quake mode. It seems Ghostty is a terminal for Mac which has the worst developer tooling I have ever seen. They are literally 10+ years behind Linux and a couple of years behind Windows
I think many will share this sentiment. Personally I have a slight preference for doing tabs/splitting in the terminal instead of the shell, but that’s just personal preference, and not without its downsides.
That's nice. I'm so used to Kitty+Tmux+neovim that I have no real reason to use another setup, but I wish the best for all new software. The more open source, the better.
Tried it out, but I stick with Warp. I heard the Changelog Podcast with Mitchel where he talked about UI or Terminal features and his aim was Terminal features. Warp has the better UI features and those I love so much. Ghostty is indeed faster than Warp as much as I tested - but to me, some of the UI features a killer features I don't wanna miss. I'll revisit Ghostty in a while from now for sure.
I found it slower than even Windows Terminal with flickers and high memory usage, does anyone know what would could this? Maybe I’m just expecting too much out of a hobby project whatever
It's definitely faster than Windows Terminal, which isn't saying much, considering how bad it is. But depending on what platform you are on it can use a lot of memory (200mb on my system) because of the GUI backend (GTK). But at least on my machine, it's faster than Kitty.
I switched from iTerm2 to ghostty mainly because of the "goto_split"/"new_split" key binding. And also the allowing multiple key bind for the same function.
Thanks for the feedback! I’ve made it too big before so it sounds like I went too far in the other direction. In any case I am relieved that people want to see my face 🙃
One can CLEARLY tell that this terminal is for web developers who has always used mac. Because the developer tooling and developer experience on Mac is literally 15 years behind Linux and possibly Windows too. Tilix has done all this since 2005. 20 years ago. Written in D (dlang)
I don't get why terminal emulators feel the need to implement splits and tabs. That's what terminal multiplexers are for, and they persist across a remote session even after the terminal is killed.
I come from a damaged generation where all I hear is "goatse". great video; I have been waffling on trying something new...been an interm2 user for what feels like a lifetime and while things like kitty and wez were nice, they never stuck. maybe ghostty will give iterm a run for its money.
Good question - I've tried Zed briefly and have so far been impressed. But I probably haven't given it ample time to really get a feel for it. I'll use it for the next few days and see how things go! BTW you made this comment on the Ghostty video, I'm assuming you came from the Helix video, the implicit alternative to Zed being Helix?
Seems like you could just use a window manager and a normal terminal like has been available for 10 years already on Linux. I don't understand the commitment to mac
Can’t speak for others but I personally don’t have an emotional attachment to the platform, I mainly use it for the Messages text integration with iPhone. Also Final Cut Pro. If not for those things I’d probably be using Linux
@codetothemoon I have emotional reputation to all operating system with differing intensities. I really hope the recent independent OS movement ultimately gets us free from this mess. Not welding together the DE/WM/GUI system with the underlying os is a big advantage of *nix systems visavi experimentation. I've never used those features or programmes but I have tried kde-connect which was super slick for phone pc integration.
This software was written by a guy who's already got a billion dollar exit. Sitting on piles of cash, dude decided to spend his time building a terminal emulator. What a total gangsta is all I have to say.
I just dont see where this fits in the current market. If i want speed, alacritty is hella fast. If i want feature richness, nothing is topping wezterm with its lua api. If i want a lil of everything, kitty is solid. To me, this just feels interesting because tech influencers are doing ads or are helping out the dev that made it. Really doesnt interest me 🤷🏻♂️
im super surprised you use warp. i love that its built in Rust but everything else is corporate. if you dont pay for the product its because you are the product
@@codetothemoon I’ve been using Kitty for a while, and I have tested every new terminal that pops up - I’m kinda hungry for a new terminal. I didn’t found anything that justifies replacing Kitty by Ghostty yet though. The only terminal I’ve found that MIGHT become better enough than Kitty to make me replace it is WezTerm, but it still have some very annoying issues.
@codetothemoon thanks for the reply. If the mouse made a noise, does anyone really hear it? The excitement over ghostty is like that. Unfortunately the excitement is an arguably small echo chamber. It doesn’t get mentioned up front how limited the possible users are and lack of cross platform support. I want to use it or try it, love the terminal. There are many terminal power users not on Mac or Linux.
Damn that webcam frame is too small just noticed it at the end 😅
thanks, really happy someone wants to see more of my face. Very reassuring after a realization that videos without my face tend to do better 🙃
@ I’m not a content creator so I can’t really tell but as a viewer I feel like 99% of the views will come from the subject you tackle and the title/thumbnail. I think most people want to see new tools and trends like this. Anyways what matters is doing what you want and being proud of what you publish.
it would be nice if it moves like old CRT dvd logo
I actually like this. Your face and expression are visible, and still the content has majority of the screen.
Another channel I like similar to yours, recently decided to show his split keyboard instead of actual content.
@@codetothemoon someone that hates your face here, keep it as small as possible.
For us oldies, that undescriptive "quick mode" is actually a "Quake mode" since that was how a terminal in Quake game was portrayed. As it was quite popular, many other terminals (even Windows Terminal) support this mode. Ghostty should have adopted a well known name instead of inventing a dull new name.
Agreed a thousand percent. Tilix has done this for 20 years now, both the splitting and Quake mode.
It seems Ghostty is a terminal for Mac which has the worst developer tooling I have ever seen. They are literally 10+ years behind Linux and a couple of years behind Windows
@@simonfarre4907because Apple slaps us around like we’re dirt.
macOS development sucks
Image previews in the terminal is nice, other than that, I just want my terminal to run Tmux and NeoVim.
I think many will share this sentiment. Personally I have a slight preference for doing tabs/splitting in the terminal instead of the shell, but that’s just personal preference, and not without its downsides.
I've got to use the windows terminal for work.. 🥲
And I use zellij for panes when I work on prod servers as I've got to authenticate with cyberark
@@marcusrehn6915 Image rendering is not exclusive to Ghostty though. Kitty, Alacritty and WezTerm for example support it just as well, among others.
@@codetothemoon I do see the appeal, for me it comes down to having things behave in the same way wherever I am working. Regardless of Mac or Linux 😃
Displaying images inline the terminal is an invention of the legendary super programmer Terry Davis.
Great video and take : )
Thank you!! Love your channel if I haven't told you already 😎
That's nice. I'm so used to Kitty+Tmux+neovim that I have no real reason to use another setup, but I wish the best for all new software. The more open source, the better.
@3:40 If you click ghostty-> settings it will open up the config file. Then ghostty-> “reload config “ to apply them without restarting the app
I really like the down to earth approach you took. And thanks for introducing me to the term Shiny object syndrome!
Tried it out, but I stick with Warp. I heard the Changelog Podcast with Mitchel where he talked about UI or Terminal features and his aim was Terminal features. Warp has the better UI features and those I love so much. Ghostty is indeed faster than Warp as much as I tested - but to me, some of the UI features a killer features I don't wanna miss. I'll revisit Ghostty in a while from now for sure.
My initial take is pretty much in line with yours. Leaning toward sticking with Warp due to all the fancy features - AI, agent mode, workflows, etc.
I have a dream that one day we, men, will be able to say that we like something because it looks pretty, without calling it “UI features”🙃
I’m not trying to login to my terminal so Warp is a no-go for me
Warp actually removed the login requirement.
But I'll also stick with Warp. Being able to copy command/output/both and sticky prompt are huge for me.
Still opt-out telemetry and not FOSS.
I found it slower than even Windows Terminal with flickers and high memory usage, does anyone know what would could this? Maybe I’m just expecting too much out of a hobby project whatever
It's definitely faster than Windows Terminal, which isn't saying much, considering how bad it is. But depending on what platform you are on it can use a lot of memory (200mb on my system) because of the GUI backend (GTK). But at least on my machine, it's faster than Kitty.
Finally found a honest review on ghosty.
Thanks, glad you liked it!
"Rockstar Developer", the most important information?
It feels better to use a terminal created by someone with some street cred!
I believe that you _can_ use a fairly standard config location of ~/.config/ghostty/config on macOS - if you want to.
May try this, was kind of confused about the default location
I switched from iTerm2 to ghostty mainly because of the "goto_split"/"new_split" key binding. And also the allowing multiple key bind for the same function.
can someone please run Casey Muratori's 1G file test on a variety of terminals
performance benchmark comparison would be useful!
oo images in github pr, wish there was a chatgpt intergration like iterm
The webcam could be a bit bigger, also the rounding is kind of weird? Like it's not a perfect circle, kind of triggering my OCD hahaha
Thanks for the feedback! I’ve made it too big before so it sounds like I went too far in the other direction. In any case I am relieved that people want to see my face 🙃
read the title and thought we was getting a terminal emulation in gta 6
hahaha I can see why you might have thought that....
tried Ghostty, but i feel Kitty is more fast when typing on it
Ah interesting, maybe I’ll give kitty a try
I love kitty because of its ssh and container extensions.
And its custom image protocol is years ahead of sixal protocol
One can CLEARLY tell that this terminal is for web developers who has always used mac. Because the developer tooling and developer experience on Mac is literally 15 years behind Linux and possibly Windows too.
Tilix has done all this since 2005. 20 years ago. Written in D (dlang)
interesting perspective, I hadn't considered this!
Would indeed be useful for vim users. Using juypter notebook on the command line is only not good because it cant display images
I don't get why terminal emulators feel the need to implement splits and tabs. That's what terminal multiplexers are for, and they persist across a remote session even after the terminal is killed.
Holy smokes, I remember when you had less than 5k subscribers doing Rust videos.
it's been quite a journey! 😎
I come from a damaged generation where all I hear is "goatse".
great video; I have been waffling on trying something new...been an interm2 user for what feels like a lifetime and while things like kitty and wez were nice, they never stuck. maybe ghostty will give iterm a run for its money.
sigh, i am from the same generation. didn't see it before but now I can't unsee 😭
glad you liked the video though 😎
I want a terminal that flies... Tsetstty
I still don't understand why someone hasn't created a Terminal named "Airport"
Why would anybody not use Zed instead of this?
Good question - I've tried Zed briefly and have so far been impressed. But I probably haven't given it ample time to really get a feel for it. I'll use it for the next few days and see how things go!
BTW you made this comment on the Ghostty video, I'm assuming you came from the Helix video, the implicit alternative to Zed being Helix?
@@codetothemoon both are written in rust, but nothing beats zed
I see you down there wee lad in yer’ittle circle ⭕️
wat? you might have to walk me through this one 🙃
Seems like you could just use a window manager and a normal terminal like has been available for 10 years already on Linux.
I don't understand the commitment to mac
Can’t speak for others but I personally don’t have an emotional attachment to the platform, I mainly use it for the Messages text integration with iPhone. Also Final Cut Pro. If not for those things I’d probably be using Linux
@codetothemoon I have emotional reputation to all operating system with differing intensities. I really hope the recent independent OS movement ultimately gets us free from this mess.
Not welding together the DE/WM/GUI system with the underlying os is a big advantage of *nix systems visavi experimentation.
I've never used those features or programmes but I have tried kde-connect which was super slick for phone pc integration.
Displaying images inline the terminal is an invention of the legendary super programmer Terry Davis.
whoa really? I was familiar broadly with his story, didn't know about this though
"I'm the best programmer that has ever lived."
This software was written by a guy who's already got a billion dollar exit. Sitting on piles of cash, dude decided to spend his time building a terminal emulator. What a total gangsta is all I have to say.
Gangsta indeed!
I just dont see where this fits in the current market. If i want speed, alacritty is hella fast. If i want feature richness, nothing is topping wezterm with its lua api. If i want a lil of everything, kitty is solid.
To me, this just feels interesting because tech influencers are doing ads or are helping out the dev that made it. Really doesnt interest me 🤷🏻♂️
im super surprised you use warp. i love that its built in Rust but everything else is corporate. if you dont pay for the product its because you are the product
Yet another Kitty clone… all quiet on the Western front. #hype
I haven't actually used kitty, but I believe it aims to be more feature rich? Not entirely sure.
@@codetothemoon I’ve been using Kitty for a while, and I have tested every new terminal that pops up - I’m kinda hungry for a new terminal.
I didn’t found anything that justifies replacing Kitty by Ghostty yet though.
The only terminal I’ve found that MIGHT become better enough than Kitty to make me replace it is WezTerm, but it still have some very annoying issues.
i'll stick with wezterm for now
This seems like a clear Kitty clone.
My understanding is that has a superset of Kitty's features, but I can't confirm as I haven't used Kitty
@@codetothemoon I don't think Ghostty has Kitty's remote control functionality.
I think it's all hype... All other terminal emulators are just as good.
I thought developer at Rockstar games..
Nope, they are too busy finessing their carjacking algorithms to write terminals 😉
Overhyped
Maybe. But a great terminal nonetheless.
This terminal is total crap
Grr! Mac users, you’re 1%, like a mouse in the wilderness, is it really hype? Well nice for you, but useless for those not using a Mac or Linux.
Mouse in the wilderness?
@codetothemoon thanks for the reply. If the mouse made a noise, does anyone really hear it? The excitement over ghostty is like that. Unfortunately the excitement is an arguably small echo chamber. It doesn’t get mentioned up front how limited the possible users are and lack of cross platform support. I want to use it or try it, love the terminal. There are many terminal power users not on Mac or Linux.