Catastrophic Retaining Wall Failure Goes to Court in St.Paul MN

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  • A complete Retaining Wall Failure goes to Court in St.Paul MN. I get called in as an expert witness. Watch the process as I determine what happened to cause this retaining wall to blow out. More info here: dirtmonkeyu.com/catastrophic-r...
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  • @rholbrook0587
    @rholbrook0587 6 років тому +6

    Interesting to see the evidence presented here. I see a tumbled down mess, and you saw a process. Great vision and experience there. Thanks for sharing it here. Appreciated by me!

  • @jasons.chambers4885
    @jasons.chambers4885 8 років тому +18

    lawyers.....the worst possible choice ever

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  8 років тому +2

      +Jason S. Chambers Hopefully they can come to a peaceful settlement. :)

  • @coreyhunter2740
    @coreyhunter2740 3 роки тому

    You are by far one of the best guys in here doing this so detailed and a fair guy we need more people like you in the world 🌎 appreciate it very much you are very helpful and big ups for trying to create a better solution instead of court only someone with experience could figure that out great job...

  • @wolfsdenenterprisesllc9539
    @wolfsdenenterprisesllc9539 7 років тому +12

    BIGGEST problem NOT addressed... If you look real close, you'll see it. From edge of garage to retaining wall was gravel. Good idea. The TWO LAYERS of plastic with a grade leading to the retaining wall... NOT GOOD. ALL the water from the roof was funneled straight to the back side of the wall and allowed for it to rot from the back side outwards. No plastic protecting the back side of the retaining wall at all, which could very well have been hidden between the top course and second down so you'd never have seen it at all (two layers should have been placed) ... Poor construction initially by whomever built it.

    • @greglee9911
      @greglee9911 6 років тому +5

      Wolfsden EnterprisesLLC I design retaining walls for a living. Number one cause of retaining wall failure is the hydrostatic buildup of water behind the wall ( ie- insufficient drainage). In layman terms, the water behind the walls acts like a jack you would use when changing a car tire. Without a drain section from top to bottom of the wall, the water pressure exerts the pressure on the wall horizontally. With the drain section behind the wall (8-12 inches of drain rock with a 3-inch perforated pipe with positive slope and all wrapped in a filter fabric), you relieve the pressure (like turning open the release valve on the tire jack). Railroad ties are cheaply made walls and sometimes have rebar stakes drilled and pounded in for vertical reinforcement. In this case we saw horizontal deadman construced, but no rock drainage ( sometimes called a chimney drain) or a drain pipe ( drain tile). Plus it looks like the wall was constructed vertical with no batter (inclination backwards from the vertical). Notice where wall failed was near garage and house where rainfall comes right off of the roofs. If gutters were installed and run away from structures and wall, there likely wouldn't be a failure. Additionally, where is property line located? Likely wall is on upper lot's property since deadman extend into that property. .

    • @jlleblanc8345
      @jlleblanc8345 6 років тому +1

      Especially with a freeze thaw cycle!

  • @huddy32
    @huddy32 7 років тому

    The worst thing to misspell is professional, when you are exclaiming you are a professional,, love your videos

  • @henryostman5740
    @henryostman5740 7 років тому +11

    let's put some gutters on the garage, eh? a retaining wall built out of (not new?) railroad ties (the RR didn't pull them out 'cause they 'looked badd', eh?) has a life of somewhere between 15 and 25 years without these other problems. Putting the house and garage on top of the deadmen indicates the builder was a moron. I bet the portion under each is also in really good shape too. Bottom line answer, the wall died of old age, it did not die prematurely, it had a good life and got old. Happens to all of us someday.

    • @PayNoTax-GetNoVote
      @PayNoTax-GetNoVote 5 років тому +3

      Looked to me, and Stanley, like the wall was still pretty stout everywhere EXCEPT where the additional moisture was applied via the garage. I mean really, who doesn't put gutters on a structure unless you have other methods of moving the ground water like extra long eaves and some type of dramatic slope or French drain system. The builder or owner was cheaping out and the owner should have known better.
      My $.02

  • @mickkennedy1344
    @mickkennedy1344 7 років тому +11

    You really should have dressed as Lieutenant Colombo for this, and at the end said, scratching your head: "Euhh, Sir, jus' one more thing..."

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  7 років тому +1

      Hahaha Love it!

    • @sailingsolar
      @sailingsolar 7 років тому

      Well if there was a Mr. Colombo here he might ask, "Looking @2:20 through 3:20 in the video one can clearly plastic sheeting. That sheeting was put in when the deadmen were, was it not? Wouldn't that sheeting have gone to the wall and that provide a barrier to water saturating the material below it? If so, wouldn't that prevent to a great degree the material below it from water and an increased in hydrostatic pressure? Also Colombo would never accept the speculation (guessing) that the garage was built considerably after the retaining wall was installed. In fact, a little research into when the wall was installed AND the garage by going to the city and checking building permits would eliminate any guessing or assuming on your part. Would it not? I am a layman here so I ask, could the fact that there was no gutters on that garage permit the water to flow up to the wall and expose it to rot out faster over time faster than that part of the wall with was exposed to an increase of water than the part that did not rot out yet. It is I assume, a fact that eventually the rest of the wall will eventually rot out given enough time and collapse based on the material used to build it. Let's face it, it is not as longed lived as a retaining wall made of a different material like a stone wall. Just my thoughts Sirs. Cheer.

    • @SmokePoppa
      @SmokePoppa 7 років тому +1

      Wood does decay over time, but it takes decades to centuries for the process to happen. You've assumed the plastic behind a retaining wall is to create a barrier that prevents water from penetrating the wood, and that's incorrect. It's there primarily to channel the water down into a drain behind the wall. In masonry walls, it also prevents minerals from minerals leaching into the mortar which will naturally degrade the wall's structural integrity.
      Regarding the longevity of the wall. While stone is more durable than wood, that doesn't mean it's superior. Block foundations of houses are coated with materials to prevent water from penetrating the blocks. In retaining walls, the mortars they used will eventually become brittle and fail under load. The perfect example is when you see old brick houses that have loose bricks. Unless it's a modern locking block wall that uses PVC pegs, most stone walls are at a disadvantage compared to wood.
      I would say the diagnosis is on the money, but I'm not a fan of the proposed alternatives. At that angle, rain water will rush the lower structure due to its proximity. Also, I would suggest that the garage will experience foundation issues most notably creep. I believe that under heavy rain conditions, the foundation could have a catastrophic failure leading to a landslide.

  • @j.l.truckingandlandscaping2097
    @j.l.truckingandlandscaping2097 8 років тому +24

    I can't believe someone would go to court over that wall. Its collapsing was a blessing is disguise because it will look much better now. great video

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  8 років тому +5

      +J.L. Landscaping and property maintenance It is a blessing but not the part on who pays the bill.

    • @j.l.truckingandlandscaping2097
      @j.l.truckingandlandscaping2097 8 років тому +2

      Ya that is true! :)

    • @bryanvozar4761
      @bryanvozar4761 7 років тому +7

      if u lived in the house below u would be pissed also some ppl just dont give a shit about others personal stuff they only care about there own not saying this is the case but the guy on the bottom looks like he gets washed out lol

    • @citticat2
      @citticat2 4 роки тому +1

      @@jasenrock No, it's the person who causes the problem.

  • @yixnorb5971
    @yixnorb5971 7 років тому

    Kudos for finding ecumenical solutions to mitigate damages rather than just finding fault. A way out of this mess should pacify both constituents.

  • @maddoxinc1642
    @maddoxinc1642 6 років тому

    You have a good understanding of the building and construction universe. I would love to shadow someone like you to learn more about this, I hate my sedentary desk job.

  • @johnthompson9572
    @johnthompson9572 7 років тому +3

    you know I gotta say this channel is pretty cool and informational I just might try out his profession

  • @alllivesmatter627
    @alllivesmatter627 3 роки тому +1

    One of the biggest problems is that railroad ties are made for ground contact not foundation grade. Meaning that they will rot over time unless they are foundation grade. So from the start of this build is was going to fail. As you can clearly see they have decayed and the ones under the building and driveway will do the same and may cause issues

  • @katdeskinner
    @katdeskinner Рік тому

    Which is exactly why surcharges are placed for 30 days on bridge on-ramp construction. To monitor earth settlement movement before actual roadway and approach slabs are constructed. Loved my job.

  • @209Control
    @209Control 5 років тому +3

    You're a good dude, you could have very easily exploited their hostility towards each other to get more money from them.

  • @basicwrench4510
    @basicwrench4510 7 років тому

    I'm surprised it lasted as long as it did. What a perfect example.

  • @SnakeJones09
    @SnakeJones09 8 років тому

    Good job finding a solution for these neighbors. "If two men make peace in this house they shall say to the mountain, move away, and the mountain will move away."

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  8 років тому

      +SnakeJones09 I love it- thanks!

  • @lukereynolds9907
    @lukereynolds9907 7 років тому +25

    Why would the guy that's lower want a swale and drain on his place to catch the higher guys water if it was me retainer wall back up

    • @crunch9876
      @crunch9876 6 років тому +2

      luke reynolds to save money since the cost will most likely be split.

    • @patrickfirst5614
      @patrickfirst5614 3 роки тому

      Plus a French drain.

  • @briansmobile1
    @briansmobile1 8 років тому +45

    Geez, if the uphill neighbor would have done a rain gutter and a drainage pipe to the street they would have been fine for another decade or more.

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  8 років тому +12

      Yep- :(

    • @stevenjohnson889
      @stevenjohnson889 6 років тому +3

      The garage has 4-ft frost footings and would transfer the loads below the wall. A simple free body diagram will tell you that.
      Water, rot and age appear to be to be the culprits.

    • @Combat_Pyro
      @Combat_Pyro 6 років тому +1

      Steven Johnson that’s assuming that the garage was built correctly and to code rather than just built on top of the driveway. People don’t always do the right thing. The only way to know is to excavate and see if the were footings properly installed.

    • @stevenjohnson889
      @stevenjohnson889 6 років тому

      Had the garage not been built with frost footings there would be clear and present tell tail signs. Minnesota freeze thaws are unforgiving to structures of that size; differential settlement and shifting would be apparent after one winter. Also, there is no way that garage was built in the metro areas without an inspection.

    • @Combat_Pyro
      @Combat_Pyro 6 років тому +2

      Steven Johnson I’m not suggesting it was built without an “inspection” I’m saying people, including builders find ways to cut corners all the time. A lot of times inspectors are too busy to make an actual appearance and all they need are pictures of the footer hole with a tape measure in it. I know they did that in Delaware. The frost line there is 36”. You’re not supposed to be able to get your car registered there without an inspection, but I can tell you from experience that $100 goes a long way to getting you one without one. There are ways to cheat the system and people do take advantage. And I think that the garage still presents a purchase to the surrounding soil even with proper footings. If the Wall was not built to support a driveway with a large shop on it like that, then it’s going to have an effect.

  • @thomasgronek6469
    @thomasgronek6469 5 років тому

    Thanks for the video,,, I didn't notice any weep-holes in the wall, Were there any?

  • @WorBlux
    @WorBlux 6 років тому +3

    Step one of building anything: Answer the question, where does the water come from, where does it go?

  • @grasssnake3826
    @grasssnake3826 8 років тому

    Thanks for sharing your expertise. Is the soil highly expansive there in Minnesota? I live in the Blackland Prairies of Texas and the soil wreaks havoc on pools, foundations, and retaining walls. We have long droughts followed by heavy rains. Would a retaining wall be built the same for conditions like ours? Sorry if my question is off topic.

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  8 років тому

      +Grass Snake Yes- the freeze/thaw cycle every year expands and contracts the soil. it wrecks our roads, moves sidewalks etc etc. So the walls here encounter extreme movement.

  • @seanprice529
    @seanprice529 7 років тому +22

    It looks like the wall is quite old to begin with. An amateur installed the wall, the wall rotted. Owner of the wall should just clean-up his mess and replace the wall period. Interesting how we made a court case out of a rotted wall.

    • @yodaddy4944
      @yodaddy4944 5 років тому +4

      Bet your sweet ass I’m goin to court over 18k in damages

    • @Luckingsworth
      @Luckingsworth 5 років тому +2

      Spoken like a contractor who has no idea what he is doing and still takes bids not caring what happens after a few years! Probably forged accrediting and illegal undocumented workers too. Yikes.

  • @macylandscapingretired
    @macylandscapingretired 8 років тому

    Great video. Very informative.

  • @VampireOnline
    @VampireOnline 7 років тому +6

    Where's the update on this one?

  • @tonydacosta6410
    @tonydacosta6410 7 років тому +4

    You call that a retaining wall? Its just a pile of wood and wouldn't even qualify for firewood. I am a general contractor in California. I would not have relied on wood railroad ties to support lateral pressure to a garage structure. Whoever erected this is responsible because it was bound to fail.

  • @firecloud77
    @firecloud77 6 років тому +12

    Even if the wall had been built to handle a "surcharge" load, it eventually would have failed because it was *made from wood.*

    • @cjeam9199
      @cjeam9199 6 років тому +3

      firecloud77 doesn’t matter what it’s made of, everything fails eventually

  • @mattkenney2637
    @mattkenney2637 3 роки тому

    Railroad ties looked to be rotten in several places. The wall was build with poor materials. That is a huge part of the failure.

  • @marcyounker6379
    @marcyounker6379 4 роки тому

    The term surcharge is best term for the type of situation is a "load bearing retaining wall " defintion: walls with structures drive way s, parking lots, garage s and or buildings, ect .

  • @JlhIncExcavation
    @JlhIncExcavation 6 років тому +1

    No matter how they're built, wood retaining walls are setup for failure from day one. Wood can not be placed in the ground and last. People like cheap cost, but in the long run it cost more to use the wood. Even if the wall didn't fall over, the ties are rotted.

  • @20truck
    @20truck 3 роки тому

    People don't realize but you have to give water somewhere to go, If you do not I'll assure you it will go somewhere you don't want and it will cause damage. Hydrostatic pressure can get up to damaging amounts of force, almost as if you have a hydraulic jack behind The wall pushing it over. I just finished building a storage facility and on the far end of our parking lot we noticed water seeping out of the ground, evidently we uncovered a wet weather spring. I installed a 3-ft ditch put a 4-in drain pipe in there with a fiber sock around it and filled it full of gravel and when it rains that pipe will run completely full with pressure behind it. Had I not done that drain I could have lost my entire parking lot from water damage.

  • @citticat2
    @citticat2 4 роки тому +1

    I had a beautiful 57 yr old redwood retaining wall built in 1962 that was doing well until my neighbor cut all his trees on a hill sloped property line. The roots died, toxic material came in, rotted the wood nearest his property line, and the wall fell in a domino effect leaving the wall furtherest from his property intact and strong. You bet I am taking him to court.

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  4 роки тому +1

      Sorry to hear that, hope it all works out!

    • @jimmy-ex8ji
      @jimmy-ex8ji Рік тому

      How did that work out

  • @socrpop
    @socrpop 8 років тому +9

    Is this something that should have been looked at by city inspector before issuing permit to build garage? If he signed off on it would he be partly responsible?

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  8 років тому +5

      +BillsProLawns No- the city is not responsible. Even if it is built to their code. In this case it was but long before retaining wall construction had code compliance.

    • @socrpop
      @socrpop 8 років тому +1

      Cool. Thanks.

  • @aldenbrewer7101
    @aldenbrewer7101 8 років тому +2

    I dont know this for a fact but I know several Railroad workers that have told me numerous times that RR ties like these Rot from the inside out. Thats why the RR replaces them like they do.

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  8 років тому +2

      +Alden Brewer I would have to agree. From my experience they always seem to rip apart -even the ones that look solid.

    • @Luckingsworth
      @Luckingsworth 5 років тому

      The treatments they give them are applied by soaking them in the chemical. Problem is it can never truly soak all the way through to the middle because they are so thick. So the exterior is treated against rot but the second any rot finds it's way to the center from a small hairline crack which the wood will eventually get and wouldn't otherwise be a problem, that's how the rotting from the inside starts.

  • @easystreet1888
    @easystreet1888 6 років тому

    it sounded like you were saying deadmen starting at 1:41. Would you please explain the term. Are you just referring to a tree trunk? TIA

  • @FortressLandscapingLLC
    @FortressLandscapingLLC 8 років тому

    great video !

  • @AllAccessConstruction
    @AllAccessConstruction 8 років тому +3

    Nicccccce.. I think a nice versa lok wall would be better give the guy on the left more yard. Also add gutters from the garage tie them into drainage system behind the wall..

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  8 років тому

      +All Access Construction I agree- we will see what happens-its still in court.

  • @johnspartan5631
    @johnspartan5631 3 роки тому

    was there ever a follow up video for this?

  • @ExperimentalFun
    @ExperimentalFun 7 років тому +17

    I'm guessing the guy on the bottom wants the guy on the top to pay for a new retaining wall, but its pretty clear that this wall has long been neglected, they could have easily prevented this from happening. I'm sure the building on top caused it to fall down sooner but its probably not the reason it fell down.

    • @StanslaMichael
      @StanslaMichael 6 років тому +4

      Experimental Fun The retaining wall was not designed to hold back the load of the garage did you missed that part? This is a "But for" case in court. That retaining wall was built exactly how it should have been with what was there at the time which was nothing. Whomever built the garage should have had the foresight to see what would happen further down the line to avoid exactly what has happened. I blame the contractor and could be sued for duty of care.

    • @Combat_Pyro
      @Combat_Pyro 6 років тому +1

      Experimental Fun I don’t blame him. If my neighbors wall fell on my property I would expect them to correct it. I have a large tree limb that fell right now on the far side of my pond that smashed the barbed wire fence and I’m waiting until the ground dries out to get the tree service to remove the debris so I can repair the fence. I wouldn’t expect my neighbors to foot the bill.

    • @RobCalhounPGH
      @RobCalhounPGH 6 років тому +4

      Steven Johnson
      Take a moment and think about what you're saying. The builder cut so many corners they didn't even put gutters on the garage, yet you think they put in 4ft frost footings?
      Really?!

    • @stevenjohnson889
      @stevenjohnson889 6 років тому

      Rob Calhoun, rain gutters are not required by local building code.

    • @bcrusher1979
      @bcrusher1979 5 років тому +2

      This is why they have building codes that don't let you build close to your property lines.

  • @AweSomo84
    @AweSomo84 6 років тому

    nice video's intrresting , informative and more nice!

  • @keithmaning1008
    @keithmaning1008 7 років тому +4

    ya this is real catastrophic 3 _4 foot wall.my company rips stuff like that out and puts up wall one day

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  7 років тому

      The garage fell down and the driveway sank-that was part of this-not just the wall failure.

    • @davidhoekje7842
      @davidhoekje7842 7 років тому +6

      It certainly looks like the entire issue is the responsibility of the uphill neighbor. He has a cheesy wall and what looks like cheesy backfill and a garage on unstable soil and his garage shifted. The downhill guy certainly is on the receiving end of the issue, but it's the uphill construction that created the issues.

    • @loligagger85
      @loligagger85 7 років тому +2

      can you expand on this. This comment is 1 month old and this video is now 2 years old. THE GARAGE FELL DOWN?

    • @kevinmask8652
      @kevinmask8652 7 років тому

      Yes apparently the guy left the gas on and when he walked in to grab some tools and he flipped the light switch -- KA-BOOM leveled it and burnt half the neighbors house down! The neighbor sued and won a large settlement and now the poor man is homeless begging for change at the red light... seen him just the other day looking all sad and pathetic!

  • @el3g3le
    @el3g3le 7 років тому

    At least they aren't asbestos+fiber sheets 7-10ft in the ground. Local old house spent some big bucks removing that wall that separated lake to land. And of course, they put in "pressure treated" wood.

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  7 років тому

      I have sen that=its a nightmare.

  • @Guillotines_For_Globalists
    @Guillotines_For_Globalists 7 років тому

    I hate railroad tie landscaping! One of the biggest and heaviest pain in the asses when it comes to removal. I recommend a 12" demolition blade for your recip saw (if you're a homeowner doing the removal and disposal, at least.) Even then it's a PITA!

  • @peachesmonroe251
    @peachesmonroe251 6 років тому

    WOW! This video had the best and most informative comments that I have EVER read on UA-cam! I learned so much today.

  • @mianena6562
    @mianena6562 8 років тому +1

    Is the property boundary at the base of the wall?

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  8 років тому

      +Lina Lucas Its behind the wall.

  • @amandapeine6745
    @amandapeine6745 2 роки тому

    How could you even install the geogrid for a replacement wall without demolishing the garage?

  • @brucehollmig4738
    @brucehollmig4738 2 роки тому

    What happened to the wall? Was is redone or did you contour soil?

  • @Dirtmonkey
    @Dirtmonkey  8 років тому

    Hey Graham - they are suing each other.

  • @fredkaminski6138
    @fredkaminski6138 6 років тому

    Where does the property line lay? Who property is the wall on?

  • @spaceman5091
    @spaceman5091 3 роки тому +1

    The property that needs the wall is responsible for the wall the higher property

  • @wessreiley8275
    @wessreiley8275 8 років тому +1

    The retaining wall from hell is what that looks like. Good information I would like to see a big boulder wall there that would keep the soil back

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  8 років тому +1

      +Wess Reiley A nice boulder wall would work wonders.

  • @andreweasty
    @andreweasty 8 років тому

    Good video as always Stanley, is it just me or do most cities/counties allow people to not have gutters in America. We have to put temporary down pipes on during construction and gutters on pretty much every structure here but we also had some pretty stupid laws like during a drought every new home had to have a water tank (that was plumbed to city water) even though we weren't getting rain to fill them(logic of Australian state government). But as always very informative and I learnt a few new words/names for types of retaining walls.

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  8 років тому

      +andreweasty In the US gutters are not mandatory. In Minnesota we definitely need them- lots of small rain storms-ie the land of 10,000 lakes.

  • @douglasrFord
    @douglasrFord 7 років тому +2

    Turn up your volume.

  • @B.r.i.a.n.1
    @B.r.i.a.n.1 6 років тому +1

    They clearly have gotten their money's worth outnof that wall. It was time for repair I'm sure. I can't believe they couldn't figure this out without litigation. I think the lower guy must have been a friend with that very favorable and highly questionable assessment of rotten wood. Lol

  • @richardrice3137
    @richardrice3137 3 роки тому

    The bottom line is improper construction of the wall itself as there is NO support network to hold the wall in place as well as no proper water runoff to prevent the calapse.

  • @chancelong1038
    @chancelong1038 7 років тому +1

    "You can't shove a dead man like this, underneath the garage" I can be a bit immature at times.. but really.... That got me laughing a little bit 😂

  • @deeremeyer1749
    @deeremeyer1749 6 років тому

    The second "dead man" that supposedly extends underneath the garage looks more like a big tree root. There's also a pretty large tree between the garage and house with a "buttress root" that appears to be heading in the general direction of under the garage and the location of that second "deadman". Coincidence? And wouldn't you need a lot more than two "dead men" and something placed parallel to the wall on the opposite buried end of them to anchor them and the wall well? How do you know the first "dead man" extends as far as you think it does? It's a railroad tie, right? They're kind of hard to "splice" and they're obviously pretty old and half-rotten ties to begin with, and long-term they're not going to last as "dead men" buried in the ground.
    Isn't it more common to use something made of strong and corrosion resistant steel and then steel rod as a "dead man" to retain load-bearing walls? I know burying a disk blade (farm tillage tool with lots of large concave steel disks made of very tough and corrosion-resistant steel) and using "ready rod" or a long, metal rod with threaded ends is a pretty commonly used method of tying back basement walls in areas where soil/moisture conditions tend to want to bow in basement walls because you can tighten the nuts inside the basement wall periodically to slowly "push" it back into position. and to compensate for any "settling" that occurs as the blade works into position and compresses the soil adjacent to it.
    I've seen a few railroad tie "retaining walls" but the "dead men" have been ties set in the ground as "fence posts" vertically. I can't see how you anchor a retaining wall effectively into soil that needs retention using a wooden timber laid perpendicularly to the load you want to resist. Isn't that just common sense?

  • @111jynx
    @111jynx 5 років тому

    So what was the outcome of this case?

  • @michaelmclaughlin8474
    @michaelmclaughlin8474 6 років тому

    Do you have any contractor friends, who live in the Philadelphia area of Pennsylvania, because if you lived in my area you would be at my house doing work for me, I love watching your videos, I once had a friend who had the same integrity, and know-how in construction that you have, unfortunately he passed on in 2006 he was a Vietnam vet, I have floundered with contractors since then they just never seem good enough, but then maybe I'm expecting too much from a contractor...!!!

  • @youtubeaholic2154
    @youtubeaholic2154 7 років тому +1

    Where do you dispose of railroad ties?

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  7 років тому

      Call around locally- everywhere is different.

  • @user-maxim_79
    @user-maxim_79 5 років тому

    Simple answer?...nah...hold my beer.

  • @davidwatsonii1558
    @davidwatsonii1558 7 років тому +1

    BUT WOULDNT THE LOWER LAND OWNER LOOSE 3-4 FEET OF USEABLE PROPERTY

  • @j.jarvis7460
    @j.jarvis7460 7 років тому

    WOHA "St Paul MN" where are you guys located!?!

  • @blosom2315
    @blosom2315 8 років тому

    just curious, why a swale instead of a French drain, it seems like it would transfer the water to the road better.

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  8 років тому

      +blosom2315 Both are options. If the swale doesn't work- then a french drain would be my back up plan

    • @blosom2315
      @blosom2315 8 років тому

      cheaper option first makes sense.

  • @yourhandlehere1
    @yourhandlehere1 7 років тому +19

    $18,000 to put some new cross ties or cinder blocks in?!!! What the holy fuck are you talking about?
    I could build a house for that kind of money! Ridiculous. Cinder blocks are hardly more than $1 each, some rebar and concrete, a few lengths of perforated pipe behind to drain off water....easy peasy done in a day for about $5K
    It's not rocket science and you aren't hiring PHD holders to do the work.

    • @loligagger85
      @loligagger85 7 років тому +5

      Its a bit high but there are costs of having covered workers. You dont know man

    • @nadduci94
      @nadduci94 7 років тому +9

      And what kind of house exactly are you building.... An Adobe house??

    • @loligagger85
      @loligagger85 7 років тому +3

      yea icantsignin has no clue what he is talking about. take it from an MHIC contractor in MD. I can build (and have many times) built new homes. Cost per sqft is about $65. for a 1500 sq ft home would cost $97,500 and that's a base rancher with no finished rooms other than drywall and paint. Cost to build for me is about $75,000. That's what i pay for w2 and insured workers and materials and what not (COST) and it takes about 3 months to build.
      I was saying that the cost of the wall was a bit high for the retaining wall (about 10,000 is about right for my area for a repair like that.)

    • @yourhandlehere1
      @yourhandlehere1 7 років тому

      Um....yeah. We just aren't accustomed to ripping people off where I'm at. Maybe ya'll move a little slower up north...must be the cold.

    • @loligagger85
      @loligagger85 7 років тому +5

      you tell me the location and the cost per sq ft to build a home. DUDE 18k cant even buy the materials to build 1500 sq ft. in ANY state in USA

  • @bighammer587
    @bighammer587 5 років тому

    I would NEVER allow your ‘fix’ If I was the lower level homeowner Stanley! Why would I give up that much property? Isn’t it obvious that it’s the responsibility of the upper level homeowner to repair it? Why would there be any reason for a lawsuit? We’re apparently not getting the whole story here. In my area, the upper level homeowner is responsible for not creating the possibility of displaced water runoff onto the neighboring properties. His garbage retaining wall is encroaching on the neighbor. Whether it takes a lawsuit or not, he would not get away with this if I were his neighbor.

  • @AZDESERT2024
    @AZDESERT2024 7 років тому +5

    Didn't help that the railroad ties were all rotten, wall needed replacing anyway.

    • @citticat2
      @citticat2 4 роки тому +1

      The water from the garage caused the rotting.

  • @anthonymosca9955
    @anthonymosca9955 5 років тому

    Never seen you actually do a job. Did you ever install? I used to teach and install for Versa-Lok

  • @jimbonevideo6941
    @jimbonevideo6941 7 років тому

    Why not go with soil nailing and a decorative facing? It's much less invasive and would preserve usable space for both home owners.

  • @texasmade2684
    @texasmade2684 7 років тому

    What was the outcome?

  • @johnhasse3995
    @johnhasse3995 7 років тому

    interesting,,, but where is the property line? Isn't the garage owner taking some land from the lower property??

  • @daveamburgey9937
    @daveamburgey9937 7 років тому +20

    Railroad ties are used & rotten to begin with! I do not see the garage having much to do with the failure. Yes gutters would deflect the water but it would have just moved the water to the front & back of the garage. The wall failed because of rotten RR ties and age!

    • @ipissed
      @ipissed 7 років тому +8

      Yea this guy is such a hack, any landscaper that doesn't know cross tie walls have an expiration date needs to go back to flipping burgers at McDonalds.

    • @kjbunnyboiler
      @kjbunnyboiler 7 років тому +1

      Dave Amburgey i

    • @stevenjohnson889
      @stevenjohnson889 6 років тому

      You're correct on the garage, the footings in Minnesota are 4-ft below grade which would transfer the loads below the retaining wall. The only surcharge would be the weight of slab which is a condition for the full length of wall.

    • @oldjoe6162
      @oldjoe6162 6 років тому +4

      railroad ties are only treated with creosote and always rot away and they rot from the inside out and break apart

  • @UniteForgetLeftRight
    @UniteForgetLeftRight 7 років тому

    I saw a 4ft high stone retaining wall collapse a few doors down from my parent's house a few years ago. There was a jogger on the street who for some reason decided to cross the road, good thing she did because that wall would have fallen on her.

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  7 років тому

      Wow- they do come down fast sometimes.

  • @diggumsmack2
    @diggumsmack2 5 років тому +1

    What's wrong with the audio? What? I can't hear you

  • @brandonc8030
    @brandonc8030 8 років тому

    not sure on laws on your area however, here in Michigan any new home construction or if you get an approval for re grading you have to contain any runoff from rain to your yard. you either have to swale the perimeter to drain to the street or a catch basin located in rear of yard your suggestion here was to regrade a slope rather then rebuild the retaining wall. wouldn't this be an issue with runoff from their roof going right into the neighboring yard not only that but the neighbors who are sueing would be loosing almost 125sqft of usuable property.

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  8 років тому +1

      +Brandon C We have to keep all water on the customers property-can't direct to any ones else's.

  • @jasonhw6428
    @jasonhw6428 7 років тому +13

    Your pavers on your front porch are settling. They look like Belgrade paver.

  • @tbugher62
    @tbugher62 7 років тому

    If the uphill guy had his garage built and it passed inspection's,then the other homeowner can sue the city inspector for failure too do his job.Minnesota is a hard on any wood due too the weather,the wall was just plain old and rotten with termite's.

  • @0ohoaxo0
    @0ohoaxo0 6 років тому

    MASSIVE WALL COLLAPSE!!

  • @jlleblanc8345
    @jlleblanc8345 6 років тому

    Were the dead men even pinned I don't even see any evidence of spikes in them. Also is that wall on the property line, if so was it built by the downhill neighbor?

  • @repairdrive
    @repairdrive 6 років тому

    Your like a civil engineer

  • @stevenmederos
    @stevenmederos 8 років тому +3

    would love to know the outcome of this issue. Thanks

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  8 років тому

      +Steve Mederos It is going through litigation right now. I will keep you updated.

    • @apackwestbound5946
      @apackwestbound5946 7 років тому +4

      Update as of June 2017?

  •  6 років тому

    The video doesn't clearly show where the property line is. But I could guess the wall did avalanche to the neighbors. Also, the contractor of whole installation of the driveway and the shed must have been a cheapo non-license or cheapo license or an LLC... LLC guys do the job, but they just want the money and get out before the issues raise and that puts blame across the LLC not the individual LLC contractor. That is if the customer even wants to go through all the law suit trouble to go against the LLC.
    And for a failed wall. Well when you got kids, nephews and nieces, and the whole group. Well ya, that is definitely a safety concern.

  • @jetbikes1
    @jetbikes1 7 років тому

    Did I also see live Termites in the Rail Road Ty's ? Do they eat the tar wood also ?

    • @Jerreinemy
      @Jerreinemy 7 років тому

      jetbikes1 it's a mix of kreasult, I don't think I spelt it right but it's a mix of it on the ties, the kreasult on the ties is only there to keep the tie termite free for 15-20 years, becouse rail ties have a lifespan of 15-20, then they should be replaced

    • @hamish2202
      @hamish2202 7 років тому +1

      Jerreinemy na where I live we have red cedar railroad ties still from the 1880's

  • @whatnow4178
    @whatnow4178 7 років тому

    My question is, how did the garage get permits and approval to be built?? Lots of fault to go around on this one!!!

  • @jasonnorgren2978
    @jasonnorgren2978 2 роки тому

    If you put that slope in that water would run right into that house it would flood that yard from all the water from that garage and the driveway

  • @willydiesel2081
    @willydiesel2081 8 років тому

    I'm not sure that roof water has much to do with the failure as you think. Just my opinion. it would explain the falling down timbers right next to the garage but what about 20 feet away. that wall should have a quarter inch set back on each timber. but it wasn't it was straight up and down. even with dead men those walls need to be stepped back like stairs at least quarter of an inch or more. I saw gravel but I'm not sure if it was eroded from the base of the driveway or if it was gravel used as a drainage system behind timber wall. also I don't see any 4 inch corrugated or perforated pipe behind the wall so they made no attempt at drainage to relieve the hydrostatic pressure. I agree the roof water to be problem but that's only 100 square feet of roof I'm not sure that's enough to create an issue with a well-built wall. this wall was improperly done. I'm not sure about the dead man going underneath the foundation there would have absolutely heave the wall if the foundation settled. sorry not if but when it settles. that wall would still be standing if it was stepped back proper drainage and Dead Mans. I like your videos

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  8 років тому +1

      +William Arrington Jr Your right- that wall was improperly built but then with the addition of a structure that was to much to handle.

  • @dementedbowine8681
    @dementedbowine8681 6 років тому +1

    you use concrete and some rebar place drains in the wall build it properly with the money you want to spend in court dont use second hand wood

  • @waynep343
    @waynep343 6 років тому

    who originally put the house in.. the upper house on the right who raised his lot level or the house on the left who leveled his lot and installed the retaining wall of probably old rail road ties.. a side question is who cleaned up the enviromental contamination from the creosote on the rail road ties. the creosote is a cancer causing material.. one cannot grow eatable products and should not let their children play where its spread to. railroad tires sit on top of a course gravel bed.. they are never subjected to direct contact with the ground. those are rotted away from the contact with soil and water trapped behind them. the entire lower yard will need the soil scraped off and hauled away to a hazard waste dump. . and clean fill dirt installed..

  • @shawnmoore5621
    @shawnmoore5621 6 років тому

    Get rid of to railroad tie wall and build a big rock wall. Would work much better and look better also

  • @mmiljour
    @mmiljour 7 років тому

    Lawyers love this shit,,,easy 30-40% for them,,,,

  • @visible2anyoneonyoutube
    @visible2anyoneonyoutube 6 років тому

    But why did the pavers on your porch fail?

  • @larrycoburn9112
    @larrycoburn9112 7 років тому +1

    they would have to infringe on the other guys property to accommodate the garage property.

    • @BornN2Grave1
      @BornN2Grave1 7 років тому +1

      I agree, his idea is absurd! Not to mention the proposed swail and slope would be a pain in the ass to mow.

    • @jimbonevideo6941
      @jimbonevideo6941 7 років тому

      Nearly Impossible. The algebraic grade difference would be over 50 percent. The mower would cut it down to nothing in the first year.

  • @Cineenvenordquist
    @Cineenvenordquist 3 роки тому

    No. The gutterless garage is gonna blow away any slope that's not made outta stern stuff (plastic, steel; not slab concrete.) Never filled the court docs like in the intro. Then proposes the water load take its wrath out on the street junction and drainage. Screw up 4 neighbors more like. Have areas that retain water for greenery and foundations' sake.
    Sure is a lot of pointer and description in the descriptive text though! (Why ain't one.)

  • @josiahhill4993
    @josiahhill4993 8 років тому

    0:55 oh, I like that chair..

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  8 років тому

      +Josiah Hill Haha- glad you like my rustic country furniture.:)

  • @chrisfoote2145
    @chrisfoote2145 7 років тому

    soldier pile wall...6-8" wide and no need for footer. Still in the $15-20k price range though.

  • @brandynkennedy1818
    @brandynkennedy1818 5 років тому

    So does this mean that neither party is at fault and that the building inspector that allowed the garage to be built after the fact should be the one that is at fault. They would not have been allowed to build that garage without permits and inspections

  • @collincuming9845
    @collincuming9845 3 роки тому

    What is a dead man when referring to a retaining wall?

  • @SuperBigblue19
    @SuperBigblue19 8 років тому +1

    I wonder if a permit was pulled on the garage.

    • @Dirtmonkey
      @Dirtmonkey  8 років тому

      This one keeps getting better- I just got called back out to this site. A new video is in the process on this site.

    • @bjgarbacz1
      @bjgarbacz1 7 років тому

      the new video up yet?

  • @sarvove
    @sarvove 4 роки тому

    So at the end of the day who’s fault is it the person who put the garage in or would of drain pipes and a gutter helped at all.

  • @guzman9011
    @guzman9011 8 років тому +2

    So no garage no failure

  • @EliteAD
    @EliteAD 8 років тому +6

    U should fire your camera man.
    Lol

    • @joea2274
      @joea2274 7 років тому

      Rashawn T. better than having a 1 year old doing it Lol

    • @rtel123
      @rtel123 7 років тому +2

      and fire the guy who could not spell "professional" on the title screen lol