He literally described being the delinquent anime protagonist especially when he said his older siblings were top of the class at this prestigious school, then he kept downgrading until he got hit with the bigger fish. Dude is straight up the definition of fascinating to listen to.
I'm trying to reconcile this with the clip where he talked about having terrible anxiety for 5 years over an unreturned library book and it's...baffling.
Let me reword things; those could be BECAUSE of anxiety, not stopped by it. Anxiety can cause such problems and friction that the fight could happen. And it is possible the missing school was because of anxiety as well. Pressure to act better and all that.
It's not that baffling to me, though. As a man with a history of harboring and even actualizing toxic cishet thoughts yet somehow managing to look like some passable ally, I can relate. Very painfully. Every single day, I wonder why I haven't been hit by a kill sat or something yet, and holding such self-loathing expectations makes it easier for me to want things like bringing people down for not mobbing me and my toxic ass, especially immediately. It's a vicious cycle, basically. And hurt people hurt people, as a friend of mine reminded me during one time I vented to him about struggling with being around fellow advocate wannabes who focus more on looking good rather than doing good.
"Toxic cishet thoughts" Sounds like you're still wallowing in your own self-loathing, pal. You just choose to offload your toxicity onto a different group of people. So basically you haven't changed at all, really.
@@rachelstanford9784 Well, my self-loathing sure sends its appreciation for your acknowledgment and encouragement of its existence at least. I mean, what's a cishet man other than garbage, right? But hey, I did ask for this, so no point in me complaining about your response, yeah? So thank you very much for clashing against me.
I find it pretty relatable to be honest. You don't need to be the one to start the fight to get in deep shit for it, especially if the teachers don't like you.
vesper has done so many zatsudans with so many stories and he still comes up with obscured stories no one has heard of.. i have reasons to believe this man has lived 50 lives
I can imagine of a younger, shorter haired Vesper with ruffled shirt & unbuttoned vest going on fights. Grinning and bleeding from his nose/mouth while holding the poor schoolmate that aggravated him
Vesper is just Alfred, when you first meet him you think "this is a mild mannered gentleman who is extremely peaceful", and the more you learn about him the more your image of him transforms into "crazy spear-wielding Florida Man who's been through some SHIT".
I remember seeing recently someone made the diagram of livers in Holo who Looks Terrifying x Actually Terrifying, and Vesper alone was on the top of right corner aka. both.
I blew off an ungodly amount of classes, but not because I was uninterested in learning. To quote Mark Twain, I have never let schooling get in the way of my education.
He is like my alter ego at this rate.. I actually have many thinking that he might made up many of his stories but his storytelling is very consistent and never contradict each other. The decision of taking him to Holostars is just brilliant. We still don't know many things about Vesper even after almost 8 months after his debut.
I love imagining the Noir family as a clan of very professional, respected, high-class vampires all in very notable positions both in the vampire community and the human world, and then there's Vesper, the vampire weeb scholar/wizard. The contrast is so beautifully humorous you could make an anime out of it. I'd pay to see it.
Same Vesper, I was kicked and sent to charter school and was kicked out of that for not doing shit and after 6 years of high school with no degree I entered the work force.
I never got kicked out of school, but this talk got me remembering three things. First is how I was this stereotypical hall monitor type during my basic education years, where I looked down on people who didn't follow the rules and got humbled by authorities who not only made fun of me for being such a stick in the mud but also assured me that I can be more than that. Second is how I was this low-to-mid-tier student in the respected university I went to and graduated from, where I felt like a delinquent who miraculously graduated because not only my beliefs aren't really aligned with the majority there, they even turned into something I consider improved after everything I went through there, especially because of my thesis adviser who not only understood but also challenged my beliefs. And third, even after all that, there's stuff like how I went from being a hololive simp boy to a holoPro fanboy. The bottom line of all this? I guess it's how the difference between a non-toxic person and a decent person is in how much a person bothers to believe that people can do better.
Reminds me of myself. I kept transferring high schools because I was fighting, etc. and the last one was so trashy that they didn’t care if I fought or not because I was in honours
I feel that Vesper has (or had) more than anxiety. Looking at the behavior he describes from his past, the patterns match with some disorders people may have in late teen years or early years of adulthood. I wouldn't be able to pinpoint one, though, nor would it be adequate Correct therapy helps control the disorder, and this'd also explain some of his current behavior
I've never really watched it before, but I gained interest in it ever since I read that one epic crossover fanfic with it and Touhou. You ever read that before?
@@theoverlordbear a crossover fanfic with Touhou and Megas XLR...? that...sounds honestly both amazing and hilarious (because cmon, just imagine the reactions to Megas's entire existance), but yeah never even heard of it
@@yggdro It's called Fantasy of Utter Ridiculousness by Curtis Wildcat, and it's an old and gold fanfic, one of the first fanfics I learned about as I started my foray into fanfiction, though I think it took years before I actually read it for the first time. And I think I've read it all at least twice already. I hope you have fun with it if you decide to read it! :D
Remember when management gave him that timeout, and we never found out what it was for? Now I'm thinking they may have been really lenient on him, haha.
lol i trust it because cover has a good reason to suspend him before. so from this confession it is true story. . i might not be as bad as him but all teachers in the office knows my face because i keep getting called there for being late, absence, too low grade, having trouble with crazy english teacher, etc
@@28_futaba yeah one of em is a shitty old chemistry teacher, another was a really young slimy young biology teacher, the third one didint even want me in that college coz i dressed poor, regardless i got my law degreee and art diploma. The Art diploma was close, i almost got kicked out of there too.
Why bother going to a class when you're reading about the subject multiple grades above your level already, or can pick up the same information in a fraction of the time by yourself? It's not like you'll learn much. US schools are actively and intentionally terrible at dealing with gifted students in many areas and this had been a longstanding problem in many areas. "I never let my schooling interfere with my education." - Mark Twain He might have had fewer anger issues if the education system was functional. I know it thoroughly and irreversibly pissed me off when I was lied to and told otherwise. Now look, it's even more of a mess than it was when I was in it and more and more people complain about exactly the same things I was before I'd even graduated from high school, this was all 10+ years ago. The public is literally a decade behind in awareness of what is going on in the grand scheme of things.
What HS kicks you out over fighting or cutting class? 60 classes is nothing. And 1 fight is a week suspension tops, unless you're fighting a teacher, then you're barred from the school. In my sophomore year I missed all but 20 classes of math, all of physical education, and half the english course I had. No suspension or anything. I just went and got my GED instead of finishing school.
Different schools different rules. My college had a 80% attendence rate compulsory to take the final exam, else you fail immediately. And if your cgpa is below 2.0 due to that well thats bye bye
The more we watch Vesper the less we know about him
Vesper in his next stream: "Yeah I've eaten human flesh while I was camping before, it tasted like pork."
You kiddin'? His life story mirrors mine perfectly. Literally dropped out of a prestigious university cuz' of DOTA and CS addiction.
@@Railgun_Enjoyer 「did you get stabbed twice as well?」
@@lucasgoncalves7774 "...And that was right around the time I accidentally joined a cult."
It's like a dichotomic opposite Forrest Gump
He literally described being the delinquent anime protagonist especially when he said his older siblings were top of the class at this prestigious school, then he kept downgrading until he got hit with the bigger fish. Dude is straight up the definition of fascinating to listen to.
I thought Vesper was the oldest one?
@@EnergyBurst2 i think he is the middle child. a big sister and one COUNTRY MUSIC LEGEND JIMMY NOIR
@@Morscrow THE JIMMY NOIR!?!?
Vesper impression at debut: wholesome old man. I'd listen to his stories all day. Seems like a good manered gentlemen.
Vesper now:
I'd still listen to all his stories 😂
Still a good mannered gentleman, just don't get on his bad side or you'll be hidden like his rice.
tbh i found more good mannered people have bad past and people with good past think they are fucking great for existing
@@MorainStaria Goals, tbh. I think just wanting to chill on your front porch is underrated recently.
People aren’t this even mannered without going through shit to get there.
Vesper is exactly like a father that drops life changing lore every so often and brushes over it like its nothing
"Actually i'm not married to your father but to his dead twin sister, we were the first married lesbian couple in ireland."
@@bonogiamboni4830
I love that video 🤣🤣
The resident Delinquent of HoloStars English, Vesper Noir
I'm trying to reconcile this with the clip where he talked about having terrible anxiety for 5 years over an unreturned library book and it's...baffling.
Let me reword things; those could be BECAUSE of anxiety, not stopped by it. Anxiety can cause such problems and friction that the fight could happen. And it is possible the missing school was because of anxiety as well. Pressure to act better and all that.
It's not that baffling to me, though. As a man with a history of harboring and even actualizing toxic cishet thoughts yet somehow managing to look like some passable ally, I can relate. Very painfully. Every single day, I wonder why I haven't been hit by a kill sat or something yet, and holding such self-loathing expectations makes it easier for me to want things like bringing people down for not mobbing me and my toxic ass, especially immediately. It's a vicious cycle, basically. And hurt people hurt people, as a friend of mine reminded me during one time I vented to him about struggling with being around fellow advocate wannabes who focus more on looking good rather than doing good.
"Toxic cishet thoughts"
Sounds like you're still wallowing in your own self-loathing, pal. You just choose to offload your toxicity onto a different group of people. So basically you haven't changed at all, really.
@@rachelstanford9784 Well, my self-loathing sure sends its appreciation for your acknowledgment and encouragement of its existence at least. I mean, what's a cishet man other than garbage, right? But hey, I did ask for this, so no point in me complaining about your response, yeah? So thank you very much for clashing against me.
I find it pretty relatable to be honest. You don't need to be the one to start the fight to get in deep shit for it, especially if the teachers don't like you.
Why is vesper lore so insane
And it isn't over. Every stream you gotta keep on the lookout for something new
vesper has done so many zatsudans with so many stories and he still comes up with obscured stories no one has heard of..
i have reasons to believe this man has lived 50 lives
I can imagine of a younger, shorter haired Vesper with ruffled shirt & unbuttoned vest going on fights. Grinning and bleeding from his nose/mouth while holding the poor schoolmate that aggravated him
somewhere, a vestie starts drawing
Vesper telling his story to tell people to be better than him, while chat, “You are an inspiration!”.
What the hell is even Vesper's life.
A hell of a wild ride that's for sure
Florida
A Florida man one xd
I’m…im pretty sure he is an actual shonen protagonist
Boys anxiety is so high he's living on another plane
Vesper is just Alfred, when you first meet him you think "this is a mild mannered gentleman who is extremely peaceful", and the more you learn about him the more your image of him transforms into "crazy spear-wielding Florida Man who's been through some SHIT".
Vesper is actually that archetype of old mentor with lots of hidden lore behind his backstory
I remember seeing recently someone made the diagram of livers in Holo who Looks Terrifying x Actually Terrifying, and Vesper alone was on the top of right corner aka. both.
And now he's a scholar, well, well, how things change.
I blew off an ungodly amount of classes, but not because I was uninterested in learning. To quote Mark Twain, I have never let schooling get in the way of my education.
And the lore deepen
He is like my alter ego at this rate.. I actually have many thinking that he might made up many of his stories but his storytelling is very consistent and never contradict each other. The decision of taking him to Holostars is just brilliant. We still don't know many things about Vesper even after almost 8 months after his debut.
The more we know… the more we don’t
He’s a Scholar now but his original class was Delinquent
I love imagining the Noir family as a clan of very professional, respected, high-class vampires all in very notable positions both in the vampire community and the human world, and then there's Vesper, the vampire weeb scholar/wizard.
The contrast is so beautifully humorous you could make an anime out of it. I'd pay to see it.
I swear to god, the more weird shit I hear about Vesper, the more I question what the fuck is going on in this man’s life.
Vesper is literally me but with a happy ending 😢
It's not over yet.
I hope you get your happy ending soon brother
Brother.
That fits with his image, with how he woke up with a stab wound once. Also, getting suspended.
vesper having like 3 different life shaping high school arcs somehow
vesper's life is so interesting
I got kicked out of the day care center because i destroyed a magic cube on another kid's head, i don't know why i was so violent as a child
"Be 3 times better"
Got it. Get kicked out of 9 schools, then.
The Fallout Nerd Rage perk guy is real and he's an old ass vampire v tuber.
"The cure for a crazy man is a crazier man."
- Brazilian Proverb
I'm pretty sure the internet and vtubing saved this man
so vesper is like onizuka sensei?
Most hinged holostars member by the way.
I swear... Vesper's stories are like Ame of the Tempus Guild.
He did say he had anger problems that affected him a lot in the past.
LMAOO Vesper is like that Germany Oneesan meme
Ohhh I need to see that, Vesper in delinquent attire
"Germany Oneesan meme?" Can i have more Infos?
@@regnier-the_lolilord the one with a anime girl giving head pats to a kid while in the corner is a photo of her with a nazi uniform
I love that meme, warms my heart
tfw the calmest member is the most cracked out of all of them
damn.... he is indeed man of Experience
Same Vesper, I was kicked and sent to charter school and was kicked out of that for not doing shit and after 6 years of high school with no degree I entered the work force.
thats my oshi right there
I never got kicked out of school, but this talk got me remembering three things. First is how I was this stereotypical hall monitor type during my basic education years, where I looked down on people who didn't follow the rules and got humbled by authorities who not only made fun of me for being such a stick in the mud but also assured me that I can be more than that. Second is how I was this low-to-mid-tier student in the respected university I went to and graduated from, where I felt like a delinquent who miraculously graduated because not only my beliefs aren't really aligned with the majority there, they even turned into something I consider improved after everything I went through there, especially because of my thesis adviser who not only understood but also challenged my beliefs. And third, even after all that, there's stuff like how I went from being a hololive simp boy to a holoPro fanboy.
The bottom line of all this? I guess it's how the difference between a non-toxic person and a decent person is in how much a person bothers to believe that people can do better.
Vesper's lore: mysterious, elegant scholar and a gentleman, the brains of Tempus
Vesper: yea I got kicked out of three high schools
Reminds me of myself. I kept transferring high schools because I was fighting, etc. and the last one was so trashy that they didn’t care if I fought or not because I was in honours
Remember when Vesper thought he was the most grounded person in Cover? Even if that’s still true that says a lot about Cover.
Welp, sometimes it takes a delinquent to have one wise man... Or vampire
now I can understand why Grandpa get suspense, Grandpa stop being wild please.
Vesper is the concept of dad lore manifested into a person
He's the Count Draynor of his family lmao that's hilarious.
I identify way too much with this.
I can honestly relate to this except it was two middle schools for me. Man I swear with every story Vesper becomes more and more relatable
My two favorite ppl
So vesper is great teacher onizuka
I feel that Vesper has (or had) more than anxiety. Looking at the behavior he describes from his past, the patterns match with some disorders people may have in late teen years or early years of adulthood.
I wouldn't be able to pinpoint one, though, nor would it be adequate
Correct therapy helps control the disorder, and this'd also explain some of his current behavior
At this point I wouldn’t be surprised if Ame and Vesper met at some point at their lives and both nearly died or something because my god
vesper's life is absolutely bonkers
well 20 schools just to go from entering school very young to graduating high school
Holy cow....he's a banchou???
Oh snap Vesper went to Cromartie High lol
the first thing i saw in this WAS MEGAS XLR, HELL YEAH BASED
I've never really watched it before, but I gained interest in it ever since I read that one epic crossover fanfic with it and Touhou. You ever read that before?
@@theoverlordbear a crossover fanfic with Touhou and Megas XLR...? that...sounds honestly both amazing and hilarious (because cmon, just imagine the reactions to Megas's entire existance), but yeah never even heard of it
@@yggdro It's called Fantasy of Utter Ridiculousness by Curtis Wildcat, and it's an old and gold fanfic, one of the first fanfics I learned about as I started my foray into fanfiction, though I think it took years before I actually read it for the first time. And I think I've read it all at least twice already. I hope you have fun with it if you decide to read it! :D
I'm learning so much about both of them...
Remember when management gave him that timeout, and we never found out what it was for? Now I'm thinking they may have been really lenient on him, haha.
Vesper said he only wrote one liner answers and submitted the holostars application for fun... WHAT THE HELL DID HE WRITE I WONDER?
he could just wrote "i got stabbed twice in my life and ill tell you the story if you let me in"
Certified banchou.
Bro Vesper is giving Ame a run for her money
Damn Vesper! I thought I was bad! Lol
Sometimes I still cannot believe the stuff that Vesper gets into, he seriously is just the most interesting person I've ever watched
he just like me fr fr
lol i trust it because cover has a good reason to suspend him before. so from this confession it is true story.
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i might not be as bad as him but all teachers in the office knows my face because i keep getting called there for being late, absence, too low grade, having trouble with crazy english teacher, etc
according to the visual of their avatars, you'd expect axel or magni to have these stories. but nope, it's vesper.
Love it 😂
Wow
Another dota player confirmed, soon they'll have enough for a full team.
I got kicked out of 1 school and 3 colleges.
How
@@28_futaba fought in school 3 colleges coz i fought with the lecturer.
@@frozzytango9927 oh damn were the lecturers rude or something
@@28_futaba yeah one of em is a shitty old chemistry teacher, another was a really young slimy young biology teacher, the third one didint even want me in that college coz i dressed poor, regardless i got my law degreee and art diploma. The Art diploma was close, i almost got kicked out of there too.
Since he preferred gaming over going to school then no wonder he ended up working as a professional gamer.
How does a man this smart SKIP CLASS?
Why bother going to a class when you're reading about the subject multiple grades above your level already, or can pick up the same information in a fraction of the time by yourself? It's not like you'll learn much. US schools are actively and intentionally terrible at dealing with gifted students in many areas and this had been a longstanding problem in many areas.
"I never let my schooling interfere with my education." - Mark Twain
He might have had fewer anger issues if the education system was functional. I know it thoroughly and irreversibly pissed me off when I was lied to and told otherwise. Now look, it's even more of a mess than it was when I was in it and more and more people complain about exactly the same things I was before I'd even graduated from high school, this was all 10+ years ago. The public is literally a decade behind in awareness of what is going on in the grand scheme of things.
What HS kicks you out over fighting or cutting class? 60 classes is nothing. And 1 fight is a week suspension tops, unless you're fighting a teacher, then you're barred from the school.
In my sophomore year I missed all but 20 classes of math, all of physical education, and half the english course I had. No suspension or anything. I just went and got my GED instead of finishing school.
Different schools different rules. My college had a 80% attendence rate compulsory to take the final exam, else you fail immediately. And if your cgpa is below 2.0 due to that well thats bye bye
Ohio moment
well at least he got to graduate eventually
Yes, Gramps, I will do better 😅🫡
I more so meant that his story is inspiring to hear. It gives me hope that I, too, can thrive for something great.
damn vesper was beast 🤣