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The wireless stuff is grilling your brain in the long run. But hey, what do I know. They are so awesome and perfect and you're feeling so "free" with them. Good for you!
If I can't point out that Push 3 standalone is a computer, how will I publicly display my technical know-how, thereby asserting my authority and maintaining an air of superiority?! Foiled again! 😢 Great video as always, Taetro. Thanks for the good vibes 🥳
@@City2xTotally get your point but he did cover that at 0:50. I'm not sure if I would call a push 3 a computer. Most Nas drives run Linux. Maybe if the Push 3 could run MS word, Excel and I could check email on it the I would call it a computer. it is a DAW though
I really like that setup. I could use my Deluge in a similar way to the way you use the Push 3. I also have SP-404MKII and I like how you use it. I could hook up my microphone and Woovebox, Dirtywave M8 and modular to route through it into the Deluge. I’m just missing the effects box. Hmmm, Christmas is coming though 😂 I’m about to move house and will have a studio in the new and so, thank you, you’ve given me inspiration. Would you recommend the Push 3?
Yes! It's a very seamless setup, being able to access the projects over WiFi from the Push. The finishing stages and fine tweaking for sure still happens eventually on a computer.
Call your setup 'DAWless' instead of 'no computer' and you have all mouths of haters shut. I like this kind of studio so much... It's a way more music-centric and inspirational than endlessly switching between music gear and mouse pad in DAW-based solutions.
I agree!!! music centric and inspirational is exactly the kind of work environment I want. Unfortunately there are many people online who think they’re musicians, but instead of making music they log a lot of hours online pocket watching and complaining about words like dawless and questions like ‘what is a computer’. so odd!
Very inspiring setup. personally I change my setup all the time. The difference inspires me. I have a portable setup with iPad, Logic Pro launchpad x and MPK mini. Then in my dinning room I have my Roland 88 key FP10 and a Roland electronic drum kit with iPad and loopy pro. Then in the Studio upstairs my Mac with Logic & Ableton and push 2, Roland Jp8000, Multi Moog, Wavestation, Arp Axe, DX7 xox box and Guitar & Bass with HX stomp. And then my Boss RC600 I use just for guitar and bass loops which I use in my van and open mics. All different work flows, different instruments and give me different ideas. great vid really enjoyed it
It's interesting you said the Push 3 is the most boring part of the setup. That's actually why I want one haha. It just has all of the features of Push that I would even want in a standalone. Push 3 + SP404 MK2 + Hydrasynth Explorer is my dream minimal setup for outside of the studio music making.
haha it's boring in the way that it does everything I would be using ableton on a laptop for in this situation but reality...the fact that I don't need a laptop is HUGE and not boring at all. That combo sounds fantastic.
Nice! I will try replicate the workflow on my budget using mini MK3 , Trooper, koala, AUM, BLEASS voices and GyroVibe running on IPad. Great ocarina sound by the way.
I'm seriously thinking of getting a pair, their website says 30 day returns, 2 year warranty. I'm waiting on refunds on other equipment before I push the button. I'll buy through your link, if I do get them because thank you for the many things I've learnt and will learn from your videos. APC64 arriving in a few days :D
Great clip. Just a question about MSB LSB PC# on the Push 3 to external MIDI as you do with the Akia MPCs? I would also need to change the reverb, volume etc through it to & whatever else it has via midi implementation charts. The idea is to have an hour or two live set with this hooked up various desktop synthesizers.
Nice DAW-less setup. no web browser, no messaging, no interruptions. Ableton Push 3 is not a computer in the sense that 99% of people mean when they say computer. I use a Launchpad Pro mk2 or sometimes a Korg Electribe 2 as my DAWless sequencing centerpiece. Cheaper, less capable, and more difficult to use. But that's my budget 🙂
Ain't no shame in an Electribe 2, they're actually brilliant for the money, we use it to sequence synths, as part of our jam table and as a standalone single beat making unit, and while they're limited in some key ways, its part of the fun.
You guys haven't seen Tetris the movie do you? You would know what exactly is a "computer" (or PC or that thing) haha. I really liked this video! Thank you Taetro!
Why am I the only one that thinks the SP-404s effects are complete worthless?? Great video though and really dig the setup. Been using hardware only for years now and am just feeling so over the inconvenience… considering the Push 3 SA but it’s a scary change. I guess you’ve not had some of the issues others have been plagued with upon startup?
The push wobbling on the stand when touched makes me uncomfortable haha, nice work though! Can you play the drum pads on the push easily in this setup?
Lovely set up 🎉 I have a laptop running Ableton so I ordered the non-standalone as I will only ever use it indoors anyway. ❤️ I loved your ambient sound section, really intriguing 🎃
Excellent setup! thank you for your videos! you inspire me to create music. I have an anxiety disorder that left me unable to record anything for 10 years, all I did was collect controllers, guitars, and wasted my time on Nudeling.
@@TaetroHow do you go about finding the purpose of each piece? I get paralyzed trying to choose because the price of a controller or synth is rent for me and I don’t want to shell out so much on something that’s going to disappoint me.
I have a similar set up minus the hologram which I want but also use the op1 field for sound design and midi control. I also use the iPad as a sound module.
Im doing same with the 404mk2. Good times. Only difference is i picked up a 12.9inch m2 ipad pro. Logic and final cut work well. Only missing ableton slightly. So fun to use the 404 as a preamp fx box😂
I would say the "no computer" and "DAWless" labels are rather meaningless these days. If something has an operating system, even if we interact with it through dials and buttons, and it even has a fairly detailed display, it is a computer. If no mouse or keyboard meant "no computer", a Microsoft Surface or an iPad would qualify. A computer generally has input, storage (even if volatile, not necessarily HD), processing and output. A large chunk of electronic music gear these days has those. One example is the Korg Opsix/Modwave/Wavestate lineup. Sure, they are 37-key "standalone" keyboards, but they literally have a small computer in them. The music and the art will always be more important than the gear.
True!!! The flow matters as well. Interacting with an instrument that is technically a computer is different than interacting with a literal computer imo
@@TaetroI agree; I just rented an op-1 and have been learning to write and record tracks on it. Even though it’s technically a little computer, it doesn’t feel like using a computer. It feels like using a 4 track tape machine that happens to have a built in synth, drum machine, and sampler, that can also fit in a bag and go with me anywhere. It’s just a different experience than what we think of as a computer. Most people think of a computer as either a laptop or a desktop. I mean, our phone is a computer, the mpc one is a computer, the sp404 is a computer. But in the context of this video, people should know what you mean when you say “no computer.”
@@Taetro Very true, whatever gets your creativity going is what works. I think the big part of the negative "computer" experience is the lack of immediacy; turning it on (or waking it up or jiggling the mouse to make the desktop pop up), starting the DAW, setting up a new project, loading plugins. Some musicians may have their workstation running all the time, with a DAW template always loaded, but for most, it is easier to reach for a dedicated hardware unit (I guess that is the key, the hardware being dedicated to music making) and start jamming. For those with laptops that get used for other things in life, getting it out of the bag and getting it ready for an inspiration session may be an unconscious discouragement from getting that idea down. I think smart devices with music apps are a decent compromise; you can pull them out any time anywhere and just start creating.
Do you connect Reface and Lemondrop to SP-404 at the same time using both L and R line inputs? Or do you just connect one of them at a time to L/MONO input?
I use the same stereo cable to connect either the reface or lemondrop (or anything else external). so unfortunately not both at the time, but it’s fine for now. The alternative would be adding a mixer but I don’t feel the need for it yet. TE TX-6 mixer would fit well though
Great setup. I'm heading in a similar direction, using Push 2 plus Elektron Syntakt for mono synths and Nord Electro 6D for acoustic and electric pianos and organs (I absolutely love the Nord) plus my basses and saxes. I'm pretty sure I'll be upgrading to Push 3 soon, controller version to start with (although I have the Push set up away from the computer so I'm not looking at the computer screen) and maybe upgrade to Standalone later on.
Hi Taetro! Love your stuff. For the last song in this video, did you record that simple acoustic guitar lick using a microphone or by plugging an acoustic (with electronics) right into the Push 3? Is the latter method viable or does it end up sounding far less good?
@@Taetro ok thanks! How about in general: would you say it's better to record acoustic guitars using a mic as opposed to, say, plugging directly into Push?
I’ve seen some people recommend an iPad + audio interface. You could also think about a multitrack recorder, or boss looping station. I guess it depends if you just want to record linearly or you want to jam
As time goes on, I think the term "DAWless" becomes less meaningful and less accurate. What it really comes down to most of the time is "do I use a mouse and keyboard when l make music?". This setup is a perfect example of that. Sure, there's a "DAW" and a "computer", but its the removal of the mouse, keyboard, and computer screen that makes you feel more connected to the individual pieces of gear. That's what makes the experience and workflow so different and immersive. We need a new term... but "Peripheral-less" or "Decentralized Interface" doesn't have the same ring to it.
The computer nerd in me is internally screaming about the intel processor in that Push :D Gorgeous stuff, always fun to see someone who knows what they're doing make music with these amazing tools available now. I'm currently at the caveman pushing buttons and wondering what it does level.
@@Taetro i would like how i say my cameras do, i dont care about the computerless argument of the vid, its still a good vid. It has a cpu in it so i personally say there's a compter in it. Also you dont determine what i say irl.
@@TaetroTechnically, the Intel chip _is_ the computer, and everything else is peripherals and accessories. Even a TR-808 is a "drum computer." I don't have a dog in whatever this is, I'm just spouting random information. Whatever gets the job done. Call it anything, just don't let it get a web browser! 🙈
Is midi synced up between the devices? For example if you have a percussive delay or effect on the quarter note, can that timing be pushed to your devices? Are SP and Push locked to the same tempo?
I dig this setup a lot. I've been thinking about creating a dawless corner of my own when I re-organize my room based on my Novation Circuit Tracks and maybe my Launch Key Mini (if I can split the USB for power AND a device). I've yet to figure out what to pair it with but having just watched this, maybe a couple of Modal Skulpt SE or Volcas, an external mixer and another small synth? I would't have thought about using an external mixer to add anything else until now.
yeah getting everything into one mixer would be good - that's kind of how the push is functioning here (and more of course). The Circuit Tracks does have audio in as well though - so one more synth that compliments the circuit tracks would be a great start!
@@Taetro Thanks for the reply! Your right about the Circuit. Also, your video got me thinking about running either some Volcas and/or Skulpt SE's through the Circuit Tracks to be MIDI controlled, and then having another one running outboard to the mixer for live jamming. Maybe a Roland Go Mixer Pro-X would be the right choice, and just record via phone? Its not as high-brow as a Push 3 but it would get me 5 synths and 4 drum tracks and cheap (relatively)!
@@tosmixno I would imagine that the SP-4045 and Circuit Tracks fulfill too many of the same roles. Maybe you could use one to act as another synth/sample instrument for the other? I've not paid much attention to the 404 though, it didn't strike my interest, workflow-wise, so I really don't know.
Hi, I am curious about your JBL monitors. I have just purchased the same ones, but I am so annoyed with white noise from them, especially from the left one. Do you experience the same behaviour? And if you do, doesn't it distract you? In between, thanks a lot for your Ableton tutorials!
I really need to grab one of those Yamaha CP Refaces. I keep waffling because I have a really good keyboard, but I'm also about to not have that keyboard for several months while i move
Nice video and microcosm is just such a unicorn rainbow machine, everything u put into it, it makes it sound better! Small improvment for your setup: Using small stands with an angle like the push 3 is tilted to avoid neck pain for the 404, lemon and micro.
This is a great set up, and I’d like to see a list of components such as which desk you used. What matters is you’re not using a desktop computer. An Ableton push three is as much a computer as any MPC, or even drum machine ever made. How many of those machines were labeled “rhythm computers“?
Man, you’re a pretty bad ass bass player, haven’t seen you play much of that. Very clean. I dig the setup, I have a similar setup. I run the microfreak through an iPad and I have a turntable for scratching 7” sample vinyls. Together with a mini Bluetooth key controller and sometimes the midi fighter twister and a mic
Yes and also a relatively cheap option for used or refurbished, it gives you surprisingly unlimited options with the proper hardware. Only problem for me is that I can’t get very good guitar processing with the iPad so I’m kinda leaning towards the 404mkii for sampling and guitar, I think it would be a good companion for koala sampler
i was confused at first because i thought you sent the audio with the microcosm effect into the 404... and then was wondering when you skipped back how you would then send it back to the microcosm. you would have to switch the inputs and outputs around everytime right? but then looking at it again it seems you just recorded the epiano without the effects right?
Correct, the microcosm comes after the 404. So whatever I capture with skip back, I have the option to record it dry OR with the effects of the microcosm
@@Taetro ok thats pretty cool, i was jsut thinking about using the skip back funktion to capture potentially random generated moments which you might not be able to recreate... but i dont really know the microcosm, does it work with random effects?
I wouldn’t say it’s “random” but I guess it kind of is because there will be moments you can’t always replicate with the granular effects. It is great to capture those moments, I’ve found myself just recording long takes on the push to capture it. I hope ableton will add a Skip Back style effect someday. They’ve got it for midi but not for audio
I wonder if the T12 would output multichannel from the Push 3 like it does with the MPCs. I presume so. We use the T16 with an MPC One and its brilliant, other than the lack of dedicated return channels.
I'm curious how the audio of the lemondrop and the yamaha both get into the SP404. The front input on the 404 is being used for a mic, so that leaves the inputs at the top of the 404. But, that is a left and right pair, so are the yamaha and lemondrop each getting plugged into one and are mono? Or is there some kind of small mixer or something behind there to let each of them be stereo? It would be awesome to see a cabling diagram of this setup to visualize how the audio flows through everything.
@@Taetro Aha, nice. That works nicely I'm sure. I've thought getting a small mixer for plugging in a handful of items like keys and synths and such to have the output of the mixer go into my SP404 mk2 to do a set up like this and have a space to create and play without a computer involved.
@@ryan1845 Possibly. I might use something a little smaller and/or simpler to make it easier to use in a live setting plus make it easier to store and put away when I'm not using it.
I'd love to see what you think of this setup in the context of a "live set" - is it flexible and malleable enough to adapt to a more improvisational style? Thanks for the video!
Hey everyone, i want to start making music and i dont have a pc, does anyone know a touchpad that records as well or is the one he shows in the vid one of those?
Many will work when connected to a phone, and if you use Bluetooth midi it’s even better because you don’t need a cable. Do a little research on your specific phone and gear combo before buying though!
The fact you're not interested does not make it less true....I just did bother. 0:07 Computerfree??? I see AT LEAST 2 BIG computers, being the Push and the SP404Mk2....If those aren't computers, I don't know what are.....I'm out...CLICKBAIT!!
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The wireless stuff is grilling your brain in the long run. But hey, what do I know. They are so awesome and perfect and you're feeling so "free" with them. Good for you!
If I can't point out that Push 3 standalone is a computer, how will I publicly display my technical know-how, thereby asserting my authority and maintaining an air of superiority?! Foiled again! 😢 Great video as always, Taetro. Thanks for the good vibes 🥳
Exactly!!!! hahaha thanks for watching tofu
It has a hard drive and a processor and the similarities between Push 3 standalone and a regular computer end there. I’m enjoying it myself!
The Push 3 standalone is a computer. This is not a computer free setup. Its running Linux and stripper down build of ableton live. Come on son
"well akshully"
@@City2xTotally get your point but he did cover that at 0:50. I'm not sure if I would call a push 3 a computer. Most Nas drives run Linux. Maybe if the Push 3 could run MS word, Excel and I could check email on it the I would call it a computer. it is a DAW though
i think a little microfreak would fit nicely there too
Taetro has gone DAWless... give it 2 years and he's into modular and goes full Andrew Huang.
hahahha nooo I don't see that happening
@@Taetro lol nobody ever does!
its straight up not fair how quickly you can create such beauty. incredible sounds, taetro.
its quickly in the moment but a product of like the last 15 years+ of music making leading up to that moment. So both quick and incredibly slow 😂
I really like that setup. I could use my Deluge in a similar way to the way you use the Push 3. I also have SP-404MKII and I like how you use it. I could hook up my microphone and Woovebox, Dirtywave M8 and modular to route through it into the Deluge. I’m just missing the effects box. Hmmm, Christmas is coming though 😂
I’m about to move house and will have a studio in the new and so, thank you, you’ve given me inspiration.
Would you recommend the Push 3?
Great creative workflow set up! Do you still find the need to arrange, mix, and sweeten in Ableton on your Mac?
Yes! It's a very seamless setup, being able to access the projects over WiFi from the Push. The finishing stages and fine tweaking for sure still happens eventually on a computer.
Call your setup 'DAWless' instead of 'no computer' and you have all mouths of haters shut. I like this kind of studio so much... It's a way more music-centric and inspirational than endlessly switching between music gear and mouse pad in DAW-based solutions.
I agree!!! music centric and inspirational is exactly the kind of work environment I want.
Unfortunately there are many people online who think they’re musicians, but instead of making music they log a lot of hours online pocket watching and complaining about words like dawless and questions like ‘what is a computer’. so odd!
Very inspiring setup. personally I change my setup all the time. The difference inspires me.
I have a portable setup with iPad, Logic Pro launchpad x and MPK mini.
Then in my dinning room I have my Roland 88 key FP10 and a Roland electronic drum kit with iPad and loopy pro.
Then in the Studio upstairs my Mac with Logic & Ableton and push 2, Roland Jp8000, Multi Moog, Wavestation, Arp Axe, DX7 xox box and Guitar & Bass with HX stomp.
And then my Boss RC600 I use just for guitar and bass loops which I use in my van and open mics.
All different work flows, different instruments and give me different ideas.
great vid really enjoyed it
It's interesting you said the Push 3 is the most boring part of the setup. That's actually why I want one haha. It just has all of the features of Push that I would even want in a standalone.
Push 3 + SP404 MK2 + Hydrasynth Explorer is my dream minimal setup for outside of the studio music making.
haha it's boring in the way that it does everything I would be using ableton on a laptop for in this situation but reality...the fact that I don't need a laptop is HUGE and not boring at all.
That combo sounds fantastic.
@@Taetro I totally get what you mean haha. It's the perfect example of the equipment getting out of the way for creativity, for me at least.
You're a talented man! That is some expensive equipment you have....
Nice! I will try replicate the workflow on my budget using mini MK3 , Trooper, koala, AUM, BLEASS voices and GyroVibe running on IPad. Great ocarina sound by the way.
That sounds fun! You should be able to get some cool sounds
Just got the EVO sp8 to connect all things together and hook up via ADAT to push for a similar setup
Awesome setup you got, I was wondering if a condense mic can be played into the push 3 I do have a focusrite solo. Thanks
I'm seriously thinking of getting a pair, their website says 30 day returns, 2 year warranty. I'm waiting on refunds on other equipment before I push the button. I'll buy through your link, if I do get them because thank you for the many things I've learnt and will learn from your videos. APC64 arriving in a few days :D
Great clip. Just a question about MSB LSB PC# on the Push 3 to external MIDI as you do with the Akia MPCs? I would also need to change the reverb, volume etc through it to & whatever else it has via midi implementation charts. The idea is to have an hour or two live set with this hooked up various desktop synthesizers.
Nice DAW-less setup. no web browser, no messaging, no interruptions. Ableton Push 3 is not a computer in the sense that 99% of people mean when they say computer.
I use a Launchpad Pro mk2 or sometimes a Korg Electribe 2 as my DAWless sequencing centerpiece. Cheaper, less capable, and more difficult to use. But that's my budget 🙂
Yup no distractions here. Setups evolve over time……and hopefully our budgets evolve with them 😅
Ain't no shame in an Electribe 2, they're actually brilliant for the money, we use it to sequence synths, as part of our jam table and as a standalone single beat making unit, and while they're limited in some key ways, its part of the fun.
You guys haven't seen Tetris the movie do you? You would know what exactly is a "computer" (or PC or that thing) haha. I really liked this video! Thank you Taetro!
Why am I the only one that thinks the SP-404s effects are complete worthless??
Great video though and really dig the setup. Been using hardware only for years now and am just feeling so over the inconvenience… considering the Push 3 SA but it’s a scary change.
I guess you’ve not had some of the issues others have been plagued with upon startup?
Right out of the gate with the Taetro peace and love 😆
peace and love peace and love ☮️ 💗
Really love this setup! That Reface CP is so underrated. I love that it also runs on batteries.
For me, it was love at first sight with the reface!
The push wobbling on the stand when touched makes me uncomfortable haha, nice work though! Can you play the drum pads on the push easily in this setup?
Lovely set up 🎉 I have a laptop running Ableton so I ordered the non-standalone as I will only ever use it indoors anyway. ❤️ I loved your ambient sound section, really intriguing 🎃
Excellent setup! thank you for your videos! you inspire me to create music. I have an anxiety disorder that left me unable to record anything for 10 years, all I did was collect controllers, guitars, and wasted my time on Nudeling.
I hope you’re able to overcome it and create music again! Simplicity is key. Each piece of gear should have a purpose
@@TaetroHow do you go about finding the purpose of each piece? I get paralyzed trying to choose because the price of a controller or synth is rent for me and I don’t want to shell out so much on something that’s going to disappoint me.
feel that ive been there
I have a similar set up minus the hologram which I want but also use the op1 field for sound design and midi control. I also use the iPad as a sound module.
How do u connect the op1 with push. Stereo out only or something fancier?
@@bvrbvs I just record the op1 audio into an audio track. Haven’t used it for midi inside the push yet
Im doing same with the 404mk2. Good times. Only difference is i picked up a 12.9inch m2 ipad pro. Logic and final cut work well. Only missing ableton slightly.
So fun to use the 404 as a preamp fx box😂
Oooohh the big iPad is a good alternative. Yeah the 404 in this context is a beast
I would say the "no computer" and "DAWless" labels are rather meaningless these days. If something has an operating system, even if we interact with it through dials and buttons, and it even has a fairly detailed display, it is a computer. If no mouse or keyboard meant "no computer", a Microsoft Surface or an iPad would qualify. A computer generally has input, storage (even if volatile, not necessarily HD), processing and output. A large chunk of electronic music gear these days has those. One example is the Korg Opsix/Modwave/Wavestate lineup. Sure, they are 37-key "standalone" keyboards, but they literally have a small computer in them. The music and the art will always be more important than the gear.
True!!! The flow matters as well. Interacting with an instrument that is technically a computer is different than interacting with a literal computer imo
@@TaetroI agree; I just rented an op-1 and have been learning to write and record tracks on it. Even though it’s technically a little computer, it doesn’t feel like using a computer. It feels like using a 4 track tape machine that happens to have a built in synth, drum machine, and sampler, that can also fit in a bag and go with me anywhere. It’s just a different experience than what we think of as a computer. Most people think of a computer as either a laptop or a desktop. I mean, our phone is a computer, the mpc one is a computer, the sp404 is a computer. But in the context of this video, people should know what you mean when you say “no computer.”
@@Taetro Very true, whatever gets your creativity going is what works. I think the big part of the negative "computer" experience is the lack of immediacy; turning it on (or waking it up or jiggling the mouse to make the desktop pop up), starting the DAW, setting up a new project, loading plugins. Some musicians may have their workstation running all the time, with a DAW template always loaded, but for most, it is easier to reach for a dedicated hardware unit (I guess that is the key, the hardware being dedicated to music making) and start jamming. For those with laptops that get used for other things in life, getting it out of the bag and getting it ready for an inspiration session may be an unconscious discouragement from getting that idea down. I think smart devices with music apps are a decent compromise; you can pull them out any time anywhere and just start creating.
Do you connect Reface and Lemondrop to SP-404 at the same time using both L and R line inputs? Or do you just connect one of them at a time to L/MONO input?
I use the same stereo cable to connect either the reface or lemondrop (or anything else external). so unfortunately not both at the time, but it’s fine for now. The alternative would be adding a mixer but I don’t feel the need for it yet. TE TX-6 mixer would fit well though
@@Taetro Thanks!
Using the ocarina to make birds is INSANE
Great setup. I'm heading in a similar direction, using Push 2 plus Elektron Syntakt for mono synths and Nord Electro 6D for acoustic and electric pianos and organs (I absolutely love the Nord) plus my basses and saxes. I'm pretty sure I'll be upgrading to Push 3 soon, controller version to start with (although I have the Push set up away from the computer so I'm not looking at the computer screen) and maybe upgrade to Standalone later on.
awesome my friend - sound like you've got a great setup of your own.
Hi Taetro! Love your stuff. For the last song in this video, did you record that simple acoustic guitar lick using a microphone or by plugging an acoustic (with electronics) right into the Push 3? Is the latter method viable or does it end up sounding far less good?
that is a song I created a long time before push 3 ever existed
@@Taetro ok thanks! How about in general: would you say it's better to record acoustic guitars using a mic as opposed to, say, plugging directly into Push?
Yes any acoustic instrument will sound the most natural when mic’d - it’s always easy to tell when an acoustic guitar is plugged in for me!
very nice setup if you have limited space! been eyeballing the aiai headphones, but worried about the noise floor.
Hey, we're here and happy to help you with any questions you may have :)
What would you recommend in replacement of the Push, if you don't have 2k lying around?
I’ve seen some people recommend an iPad + audio interface.
You could also think about a multitrack recorder, or boss looping station. I guess it depends if you just want to record linearly or you want to jam
Sonicware Smpltrek could be an option at a decent price...
As time goes on, I think the term "DAWless" becomes less meaningful and less accurate. What it really comes down to most of the time is "do I use a mouse and keyboard when l make music?".
This setup is a perfect example of that. Sure, there's a "DAW" and a "computer", but its the removal of the mouse, keyboard, and computer screen that makes you feel more connected to the individual pieces of gear. That's what makes the experience and workflow so different and immersive.
We need a new term... but "Peripheral-less" or "Decentralized Interface" doesn't have the same ring to it.
Right it just like doesn’t even make sense. Laptopless!!
And WHERE are those MK2 knobs from?!?!? Sleeek. Not a fan of the Chromacaps on the Mk2.
I will tell you on thursday.
Please rename your video. „…with NO PC-MONITOR“ thx
no :)
This is a really inspirational setup taetro ! getting away from a computer screen seems really freeing
The computer nerd in me is internally screaming about the intel processor in that Push :D
Gorgeous stuff, always fun to see someone who knows what they're doing make music with these amazing tools available now. I'm currently at the caveman pushing buttons and wondering what it does level.
if you had a smart fridge you wouldn’t say you keep your food in a computer. it has nothing to do with being a “computer nerd”
@@Taetro but id say my fridge has a computer in it
you would absolutely never say that.
@@Taetro i would like how i say my cameras do, i dont care about the computerless argument of the vid, its still a good vid. It has a cpu in it so i personally say there's a compter in it. Also you dont determine what i say irl.
@@TaetroTechnically, the Intel chip _is_ the computer, and everything else is peripherals and accessories. Even a TR-808 is a "drum computer."
I don't have a dog in whatever this is, I'm just spouting random information. Whatever gets the job done. Call it anything, just don't let it get a web browser! 🙈
The heart of the whole thing is a linux computer 😅
Please reveal to me your secrets of the knobs!!! Hahaaa. I watched it back wondering if I missed it in the video.
sorry remy I had to wait until this kit was released!! they come with the new travel case :) sweetwater.sjv.io/oqOjzn
I feel like I could make a similar setup with my equipment. Thanks for the inspiration!
glad I could spark that inspo! Happy music making!
The Sp404 is so versatile. I run my audio signals thru it as into the standalone. It really is nice not relying on a computer screen to make music.
Yup!! So quick to get the samples out
sweet setup, but dang $$$$$$$$$$$
Is midi synced up between the devices? For example if you have a percussive delay or effect on the quarter note, can that timing be pushed to your devices? Are SP and Push locked to the same tempo?
wow! this is an awesome setup! but it is so expensive :(
I dig this setup a lot. I've been thinking about creating a dawless corner of my own when I re-organize my room based on my Novation Circuit Tracks and maybe my Launch Key Mini (if I can split the USB for power AND a device). I've yet to figure out what to pair it with but having just watched this, maybe a couple of Modal Skulpt SE or Volcas, an external mixer and another small synth? I would't have thought about using an external mixer to add anything else until now.
yeah getting everything into one mixer would be good - that's kind of how the push is functioning here (and more of course). The Circuit Tracks does have audio in as well though - so one more synth that compliments the circuit tracks would be a great start!
@@Taetro Thanks for the reply! Your right about the Circuit. Also, your video got me thinking about running either some Volcas and/or Skulpt SE's through the Circuit Tracks to be MIDI controlled, and then having another one running outboard to the mixer for live jamming. Maybe a Roland Go Mixer Pro-X would be the right choice, and just record via phone? Its not as high-brow as a Push 3 but it would get me 5 synths and 4 drum tracks and cheap (relatively)!
I have a Circuit Tracks, Launchkey and SP-404 I'm currently trying to figure out how to best combine 😊
@@tosmixno I would imagine that the SP-4045 and Circuit Tracks fulfill too many of the same roles. Maybe you could use one to act as another synth/sample instrument for the other? I've not paid much attention to the 404 though, it didn't strike my interest, workflow-wise, so I really don't know.
@@guythegoth139 Right although another UA-camr called Sunwarper has some interesting videos on using the Tracks and 404 together
The microcosm has a permanent place on my desk too❤
It can transform any sound into so,etching beautiful
Do you have a video that shows how to route the audio?
Hi, I am curious about your JBL monitors. I have just purchased the same ones, but I am so annoyed with white noise from them, especially from the left one.
Do you experience the same behaviour? And if you do, doesn't it distract you?
In between, thanks a lot for your Ableton tutorials!
Superb! What is that lovely desk? Looks perfect, I’ve never seen a producer desk that lifts.
I really need to grab one of those Yamaha CP Refaces. I keep waffling because I have a really good keyboard, but I'm also about to not have that keyboard for several months while i move
I like :D
Thanks jabz
Weird question, but I wanna know, what do you call that shirt, you're wearing on? I kinda like the style. Where can I get one?
Nice video and microcosm is just such a unicorn rainbow machine, everything u put into it, it makes it sound better!
Small improvment for your setup:
Using small stands with an angle like the push 3 is tilted to avoid neck pain for the 404, lemon and micro.
This is a great set up, and I’d like to see a list of components such as which desk you used. What matters is you’re not using a desktop computer. An Ableton push three is as much a computer as any MPC, or even drum machine ever made. How many of those machines were labeled “rhythm computers“?
musicians before the computer invented
- That's my boy
Excellent !! new subscriber from Argentina !
Man, you’re a pretty bad ass bass player, haven’t seen you play much of that. Very clean. I dig the setup, I have a similar setup. I run the microfreak through an iPad and I have a turntable for scratching 7” sample vinyls. Together with a mini Bluetooth key controller and sometimes the midi fighter twister and a mic
You’re too kind!! That setup sounds dope. Seems like the iPad is a great option for people
Yes and also a relatively cheap option for used or refurbished, it gives you surprisingly unlimited options with the proper hardware. Only problem for me is that I can’t get very good guitar processing with the iPad so I’m kinda leaning towards the 404mkii for sampling and guitar, I think it would be a good companion for koala sampler
@@MegaTwistDwhat kind of Cabling and software do you use for the iPad? (:
Such a great video, very inspirational.
i was confused at first because i thought you sent the audio with the microcosm effect into the 404... and then was wondering when you skipped back how you would then send it back to the microcosm. you would have to switch the inputs and outputs around everytime right? but then looking at it again it seems you just recorded the epiano without the effects right?
Correct, the microcosm comes after the 404. So whatever I capture with skip back, I have the option to record it dry OR with the effects of the microcosm
@@Taetro ok thats pretty cool, i was jsut thinking about using the skip back funktion to capture potentially random generated moments which you might not be able to recreate... but i dont really know the microcosm, does it work with random effects?
I wouldn’t say it’s “random” but I guess it kind of is because there will be moments you can’t always replicate with the granular effects. It is great to capture those moments, I’ve found myself just recording long takes on the push to capture it.
I hope ableton will add a Skip Back style effect someday. They’ve got it for midi but not for audio
this video & the way you elaborate on topics is very inspiring 👍
How is the low end in the jbl? Bedroom dj approved?
Where do you get those knobs for 404?
here! sweetwater.sjv.io/oqOjzn
That 'Junglescape' is 🔥🔥🔥
This is really cool man, love the vibes and flowing creativity you are able to do here!
Wonderful setup. My only recommendation would be the Tascam Model 12 mixer and some analog gear (I went with the DSI Tempest & Moog Matriarch).
I wonder if the T12 would output multichannel from the Push 3 like it does with the MPCs. I presume so. We use the T16 with an MPC One and its brilliant, other than the lack of dedicated return channels.
I love seeing these awesome setups! So cool!
More to come!
Awesome setup! Sounds really nice! 😊
I'm curious how the audio of the lemondrop and the yamaha both get into the SP404. The front input on the 404 is being used for a mic, so that leaves the inputs at the top of the 404. But, that is a left and right pair, so are the yamaha and lemondrop each getting plugged into one and are mono? Or is there some kind of small mixer or something behind there to let each of them be stereo? It would be awesome to see a cabling diagram of this setup to visualize how the audio flows through everything.
I use the same stereo cable for both, switching it as needed. currently not using them simultaneously
@@Taetro Aha, nice. That works nicely I'm sure. I've thought getting a small mixer for plugging in a handful of items like keys and synths and such to have the output of the mixer go into my SP404 mk2 to do a set up like this and have a space to create and play without a computer involved.
The reface has a handy 3.5mm aux in / through, but it’s a little noisy
@@daveskull81Tascam Model 12?
@@ryan1845 Possibly. I might use something a little smaller and/or simpler to make it easier to use in a live setting plus make it easier to store and put away when I'm not using it.
Great presentation many thanks for sharing your experience and passion 😊👍🏻
Great vid. Thanks for the info and the inspiration!
clearly the ⭐️ is the microcosm ❤
I have a electric keyboard 🎹, there's a way to emulate that on Ableton? Someone knows how I can do that?
what
I'd love to see what you think of this setup in the context of a "live set" - is it flexible and malleable enough to adapt to a more improvisational style? Thanks for the video!
I think it could be reeeeaallly great! I want to document the jam process with this setup so stay tuned.
Money
yes things cost money
Great setup 👌
Do you have an affiliate link for that amazing desk?
thank you for asking! I'm not sure if they make this exact one anymore, but here's a link to one that is almost exactly the same amzn.to/3O9ypdZ
Hey everyone, i want to start making music and i dont have a pc, does anyone know a touchpad that records as well or is the one he shows in the vid one of those?
The closest you can get without a computer is using your phone! Many good apps like Koala, or Ableton Note!
@@Taetro Which touchpads work with them apps?
Many will work when connected to a phone, and if you use Bluetooth midi it’s even better because you don’t need a cable. Do a little research on your specific phone and gear combo before buying though!
@@Taetro Thanks man!
@@Taetro Hey man, do you know any touchpads that work with some keyboards that i wont need a pc for?
Do you use ableton’s pre-amp for your base guitar? Or a real amp
the routing is completely explained in the video.
@@Taetro ahw sorry I missed the beginning part a bit 😳
The jam sounded great by the way!
thanks!!!
Great video!
Thanks!!
Does this setup work with Push 2?
No. Push 2 doesn’t have audio interface and missing the computer.
You would need a computer + audio interface, but maybe you could basically recreate the experience of not having to touch the computer using push 2??
The fact you're not interested does not make it less true....I just did bother.
0:07 Computerfree??? I see AT LEAST 2 BIG computers, being the Push and the SP404Mk2....If those aren't computers, I don't know what are.....I'm out...CLICKBAIT!!
Ahahahhahhahhaha 😂😂😂
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Why you holding the mic like news reporter 😂? Get an attachable one
I’m in the video. You’re in the comments. You’re here to take notes, not make them 😉
Seems pointless
Dude you gotta find something to do other than be sad in my comments
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Neat set-up, if only push 3 standalone didn't cost $2000 (even more in Europe) 🥲
I feel you on that one. Hopefully a sale or discount comes soon! But it’s still early
distraction free! i would just have to put my phone in another room, along with my 10 month old and 2 year old. lol
Lol just let the 2 year old take care of the 10 month old! It’ll be fine. Maybe send them outside for the day???