Found out this line has finally opened since I saw K*ga's video. It's too bad that you are not active here anymore. No one else is doing deep dives into Japanese trail and its future. Topics like the Shin Sengan and Shin Itaya tunnels are very important, very interesting, but very niche. As an outsider, it took me a long time to start understanding the importance and interest. I hope you're doing well.
こんにちは! I'm a railway enthusiast from Hong Kong, your video is informative and I enjoy watching it so much. I'd like to take this opportunity to express my views over the Nagasaki Shinkansen. I have read the arguments for not constructing the normal shinkansen route between 新鳥栖 & 武雄溫泉 and I fully understand why 佐賀 local official hold firm to object the project. With one, no significant financial benefits to 佐賀. However, I believe the only way to maximize the benefits brought by Nagasaki Shinkansen is to operate between 博多 & 長崎; since the current Nagasaki Shinkansen which will operate in 2022 only comprise 66km, I am sorry to say that a 66km Shinkansen with comprising only one large city (長崎) won't generate enough demand for the Nagsaki Shinkansen. Furthermore, with the proposed Kamome 885 conection with N700s Kamome from 長崎 at 佐賀 station would only minimize little traffic time when comparing to the current Kamome 885 direct service. The whole project of Nagasaki Shinkansen would be a failure in terms of economic return with the construction of a Shinkansen take a very long time and sum of money. Thus, coach bus will be more competitive and more passengers might even consider travelling to Nagasaki by air, with the comprehensive network of ANA, IBEX & JAL, J AIR. Further decrease the attractiveness of domestic travel by Shinkansen. Besides, the proposed FGT & Mini-Shinkansen are not considered with the former option will have the maximum speed of 270kmh which Sanyo Shinkansen is hardly to allow Kamome to enter service between Nagasaki & Shin-Osaka and its expensive maintenance cost (you also mentioned in the last video), and the later the Mini-Shinkansen will limit the top speed to only 130kmh when running on conventional line and decrease the capacity, like E6 Komachi with only 2-2 configuration. Last but not least, I fully understand the easiest way to solve the current problem is by providing direct financial aid by the main government to build the railroad between 新鳥栖 & 武雄溫泉, but there's a big potential economic crisis face as if the Kyoto and Hokkaido official also react the same as 佐賀 government, which they urge a huge financial incentive from the central government for constructing the JR-West Hokuriku Shinkansen (金澤 - 新大阪） & Hokkaido Shinkansen （新函館北斗 - 札幌). I'd know what you guys, the Japanese railway enthusiast, think about the final solution of Nagasaki Shinkansen. As I can't access to Japanese forum due to language barrier so I'd like to ask what do you think about the solution of Nagasaki Shinkansen. Sorry for messing your time. Looking forward to your favorable reply :)
First, regarding parallel conventional lines, JR Kyushu styated that they may not separate the management. If JR Kyushu operates the conventional line as it is, one problem in Saga Prefecture will be solved. The construction cost cannot be supported by the Japanese government. As you pointed out, it is related to the construction of the Shinkansen in the future. Also, to do that, we need to amend the law. The government will be involved, but as a matter of fact, Nagasaki Prefecture will bear part of the construction costs of Saga Prefecture. Even within Saga Prefecture, the whole is not against it. Takeo Onsen and Ureshino Onsen are located in Saga Prefecture. In these areas where Shinkansen stations are located, they want direct access between the Kyushu Shinkansen and the Sanyo Shinkansen. I think the problem will be solved in the not too distant future.
The current Nagasaki Line is only 125km, much shorter than 180km of the Kumamoto-Kagoshima distance via shinkansen. Even the latter has only one passing track at Shin-minamata and no train is using it for now. It makes sense if the new route for Nagasaki doesn't have any passing loop, though it seems they missed the opportunity to build something at the vacant farmland near Ureshino Onsen.
Hi Takeshi. Liked all the virtual videos of all the construction of the Hokuriku, Nagasaki, and Hokkaido Shinkansen. Quick question. Is the delayed opening of the Hokuriku Shinkansen extension from Kanazawa to Tsuruga is due to the corona virus pandemic?
What might be the arrangements for transfers between Shin-Omura and Nagasaki Airport? Also, thanks for the updated photos of Nagasaki Station - last time I went it was still old station pretty well adjacent to the street and shopping centre. What will happen to the old station?
hi takeshi, thanks for the video. great as always. could you please create a video explain the shinkanshen construction especially the viaduct (elevated segment). the viaduct on shinkanshen look like using onside cast instead of precast segment like other country even some of japan project overseas. are this have some reason?
As far as I've heard, the precast method has excellent earthquake resistance and the construction period is short, so it is often used. I only know this, so it's a little difficult to make a video.
I wonder if this new shinkansen line will be two tracks? It seems that the new track location is often parallel to an existing line with a single track and there is not too much space, unless making it aerial.
Been looking forward to this video, Takeshi san and you haven't let me down! I was thinking about the trains they are going to be using and they should have stuck with the gorgeous FGT-9000 GCT design and made two versions with conventional axles: one for the shinkansen line and the other for the conventional line, sort of like how JR East have done with the E5 and E6 shinkansen to create a modern familiar corporate image (yes I know the E6 is still a mini-shinkansen though). Regardless though and given that the N700S that they have chosen for the Kamome shinkansen service has a bright red colour scheme will they be using 885 series trains with a similar repainted colour scheme for the Relay Kamome limited express service? I hope they do so I can add it to my 885 series trains with the old yellow colour scheme and the current blue scheme! Btw You've really hit on a great format with these virtual tours, Takeshi. By far your best work so far! Arigato!
I'm looking forward for those Shinkansen in the future when I come to Japan. I know the Shinkansen can be expensive, but travel times are less then driving or taking a Limited Express train
Thank you for your advice. You can see the photos from this link. www.city.omura.nagasaki.jp/shinkansen/kurashi/kotsu/shinkansen/kojijyokyo/sinnoomuraeki.html
Takeshi this is top quality fly through. I especially like the back ground sounds of a station when you are at a station and the sound of the Shinkansen motor when doing the fly through. With all the concerns around around noise pollution these days do you think more Shinkansen lines will be built underground in tunnels? This would also reduce land acquisitions.
As you pointed out, I think that the reason why trains run in many sections in tunnels is due to land acquisition and noise control. Another reason is that the train travels the shortest distance while considering the geology.
excellent presentation
thank you so much, I will use this new shinkansen when I come to Japan next time
Found out this line has finally opened since I saw K*ga's video. It's too bad that you are not active here anymore. No one else is doing deep dives into Japanese trail and its future. Topics like the Shin Sengan and Shin Itaya tunnels are very important, very interesting, but very niche. As an outsider, it took me a long time to start understanding the importance and interest.
I hope you're doing well.
thanck you for the, I hope we from Brazil can back to Japan soon as possible!
so well detailed you can heard the departure sound and the door opening sound, very high quality work.... keep going!
こんにちは! I'm a railway enthusiast from Hong Kong, your video is informative and I enjoy watching it so much.
I'd like to take this opportunity to express my views over the Nagasaki Shinkansen.
I have read the arguments for not constructing the normal shinkansen route between 新鳥栖 & 武雄溫泉 and I fully understand why 佐賀 local official hold firm to object the project. With one, no significant financial benefits to 佐賀.
However, I believe the only way to maximize the benefits brought by Nagasaki Shinkansen is to operate between 博多 & 長崎; since the current Nagasaki Shinkansen which will operate in 2022 only comprise 66km, I am sorry to say that a 66km Shinkansen with comprising only one large city (長崎) won't generate enough demand for the Nagsaki Shinkansen.
Furthermore, with the proposed Kamome 885 conection with N700s Kamome from 長崎 at 佐賀 station would only minimize little traffic time when comparing to the current Kamome 885 direct service. The whole project of Nagasaki Shinkansen would be a failure in terms of economic return with the construction of a Shinkansen take a very long time and sum of money. Thus, coach bus will be more competitive and more passengers might even consider travelling to Nagasaki by air, with the comprehensive network of ANA, IBEX & JAL, J AIR. Further decrease the attractiveness of domestic travel by Shinkansen.
Besides, the proposed FGT & Mini-Shinkansen are not considered with the former option will have the maximum speed of 270kmh which Sanyo Shinkansen is hardly to allow Kamome to enter service between Nagasaki & Shin-Osaka and its expensive maintenance cost (you also mentioned in the last video), and the later the Mini-Shinkansen will limit the top speed to only 130kmh when running on conventional line and decrease the capacity, like E6 Komachi with only 2-2 configuration.
Last but not least, I fully understand the easiest way to solve the current problem is by providing direct financial aid by the main government to build the railroad between 新鳥栖 & 武雄溫泉, but there's a big potential economic crisis face as if the Kyoto and Hokkaido official also react the same as 佐賀 government, which they urge a huge financial incentive from the central government for constructing the JR-West Hokuriku Shinkansen (金澤 - 新大阪） & Hokkaido Shinkansen （新函館北斗 - 札幌).
I'd know what you guys, the Japanese railway enthusiast, think about the final solution of Nagasaki Shinkansen. As I can't access to Japanese forum due to language barrier so I'd like to ask what do you think about the solution of Nagasaki Shinkansen. Sorry for messing your time. Looking forward to your favorable reply :)
First, regarding parallel conventional lines, JR Kyushu styated that they may not separate the management. If JR Kyushu operates the conventional line as it is, one problem in Saga Prefecture will be solved.
The construction cost cannot be supported by the Japanese government. As you pointed out, it is related to the construction of the Shinkansen in the future. Also, to do that, we need to amend the law.
The government will be involved, but as a matter of fact, Nagasaki Prefecture will bear part of the construction costs of Saga Prefecture.
Even within Saga Prefecture, the whole is not against it. Takeo Onsen and Ureshino Onsen are located in Saga Prefecture. In these areas where Shinkansen stations are located, they want direct access between the Kyushu Shinkansen and the Sanyo Shinkansen.
I think the problem will be solved in the not too distant future.
@@JPRailcom Thank you for your reply, have been learnt a lot watching you clips. Good Night.
The current Nagasaki Line is only 125km, much shorter than 180km of the Kumamoto-Kagoshima distance via shinkansen. Even the latter has only one passing track at Shin-minamata and no train is using it for now. It makes sense if the new route for Nagasaki doesn't have any passing loop, though it seems they missed the opportunity to build something at the vacant farmland near Ureshino Onsen.
Great video again!
Hi Takeshi. Liked all the virtual videos of all the construction of the Hokuriku, Nagasaki, and Hokkaido Shinkansen. Quick question. Is the delayed opening of the Hokuriku Shinkansen extension from Kanazawa to Tsuruga is due to the corona virus pandemic?
Covid-19 is one of the reasons.
Many construction companies were down on Covid-19, and few were bidding.
Hi Takeshi, just to let you know that there wasn't any images of Shin-Omura Shinkansen Station.
Sorry, I saw your reply and I have clicked on the link.
excellent detail
良い仕事を続けてください！
How will people travel between Shin-Tosu and Takeo Onsen? Will they transfer at both of these stations?
The relay train will run between Hakata and Takeo-Onsen. So if you travel from Hakata, you don't need to transfer at Shin-Tosu.
Konbanwa Bro
Super cool! I didn't realize how far along construction was.
What might be the arrangements for transfers between Shin-Omura and Nagasaki Airport? Also, thanks for the updated photos of Nagasaki Station - last time I went it was still old station pretty well adjacent to the street and shopping centre. What will happen to the old station?
JR Kyushu will build a station building, and Nagasaki City and Nagasaki Prefecture will develop a station square.
hi takeshi, thanks for the video. great as always. could you please create a video explain the shinkanshen construction especially the viaduct (elevated segment). the viaduct on shinkanshen look like using onside cast instead of precast segment like other country even some of japan project overseas. are this have some reason?
As far as I've heard, the precast method has excellent earthquake resistance and the construction period is short, so it is often used.
I only know this, so it's a little difficult to make a video.
My wife and I have ridden on every Shinkansen. Can’t wait to get on this one soon!
I wonder if this new shinkansen line will be two tracks?
It seems that the new track location is often parallel to an existing line with a single track and there is not too much space, unless making it aerial.
It will be two tracks. All Shinkansen lines are two tracks.
Been looking forward to this video, Takeshi san and you haven't let me down! I was thinking about the trains they are going to be using and they should have stuck with the gorgeous FGT-9000 GCT design and made two versions with conventional axles: one for the shinkansen line and the other for the conventional line, sort of like how JR East have done with the E5 and E6 shinkansen to create a modern familiar corporate image (yes I know the E6 is still a mini-shinkansen though). Regardless though and given that the N700S that they have chosen for the Kamome shinkansen service has a bright red colour scheme will they be using 885 series trains with a similar repainted colour scheme for the Relay Kamome limited express service? I hope they do so I can add it to my 885 series trains with the old yellow colour scheme and the current blue scheme!
Btw You've really hit on a great format with these virtual tours, Takeshi. By far your best work so far! Arigato!
Arigato!
I'm looking forward for those Shinkansen in the future when I come to Japan. I know the Shinkansen can be expensive, but travel times are less then driving or taking a Limited Express train
The Shin Omura eki photo is missing.
Thank you for your advice.
You can see the photos from this link.
www.city.omura.nagasaki.jp/shinkansen/kurashi/kotsu/shinkansen/kojijyokyo/sinnoomuraeki.html
Takeshi this is top quality fly through. I especially like the back ground sounds of a station when you are at a station and the sound of the Shinkansen motor when doing the fly through.
With all the concerns around around noise pollution these days do you think more Shinkansen lines will be built underground in tunnels? This would also reduce land acquisitions.
As you pointed out, I think that the reason why trains run in many sections in tunnels is due to land acquisition and noise control. Another reason is that the train travels the shortest distance while considering the geology.
@@JPRailcom I am very glad that the Tokaido Shinkansen
line was built above ground, and we get beautiful views of Mt. Fuji.