Foam Free House - Is this Silly, or should we ALL BE BUILDING LIKE THIS?
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- In this episode of The Build Show, Matt is visiting a home under construction that is being built for a chemically sensitive client. They wanted a home that was healthy, had good indoor air quality, and was a free as possible from chemicals. You’ll see how Builder Luke Mezger is building this tight, well insulated home without the use of Spray Foam and get some great ideas for your next BUILD. As a bonus, Luke breaks down the benefits of MGO board and gives some tips for those interested in reducing EMF inside their home.
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9:29 Matt is saying : "Okay, interesting", but he's really thinking : "Okay, this is bat-shit crazy"
You betcha. This is what was going through my mind while they were discussing these details... ua-cam.com/video/VDndE432GpU/v-deo.html
HAHA yea. Chemical sensitivity stuff I was still on board. Soon as I heard RMF.. "oh boy, it's a quak"..
So I guess my Lacquer thinner fountain that I keep running at home to remind me of that
sweet smell of "Job's almost done" is out of the question?
Interesting ideas. But a client who indulges fantasy at this level can never be satisfied. Good luck when you get a callback because her chakras get all screwy due to your drywall screws not lining up properly.
Jeremy he said RMF, mistakenly in the video. I don’t think it’s part of his vocab and to be honest, it shouldn’t be.
Nice job Matt, the comments are interesting, this will be my fourth decade in residential construction, it never ceases to amaze me how little people know about air quality...just as long as they get the fixtures they want.
Thanks, Pete
Tell us what you mean? Examples?
@Sendit Sunday What? Who pissed in your cheerios?
@Sendit Sunday I'm still confused, I was asking OP what classifies as clients who know nothing about air quality.
Then I believe you labeled me as such a client.
As for what kind of house I live in, im not sure why that matters. At present a very old one, no fresh air system, very poor air sealing, wind blowing and drafts are the fresh air.
At my age, the home is not one of my choosing, when the time comes I will build one of my own, and I assure you it will be very nice.
@Sendit Sunday Depends, one half is 100+yrs and the other is ~60-70yrs
@Sendit Sunday Jeezlus, what is with your superiority complex?
More than a lifetime is certainly old.
I am not a builder but love watching videos of these unusual type of builds. I would guess that the Placebo Effect added to this house will work wonders for the owners health.
Yes, the placebo effect is probably the only benefit gained from the extra expenditure.
If it works that’s all that matters!
@@TonyRule(Rich) white people's problems.
Just have a Fairy Dust Blessing Ceremony, alls good. That will be $40,000 please.
Honestly, the placebo effect is one of the most powerful in medicine. If you can get that working for you it will do wonders.
The “inside” garage wall treated as outside AND a motion sensor, programmable exhaust fan, IN THE GARAGE! ❤️❤️❤️
Some people think luxury living is finishes that look half-decent and the house is big and grand. The touches on this house are luxury in the builder-stage before the drywall even goes up.
Just wow. Living in Central Texas, I really work to afford one of these types of homes one day, even as a third-owner.
Well done, gentleman.
It started fairly normal. They didn't want the off gassing from foam. I have smelled that and it isn't pleasant so I can get that. Then they started talking about the magnetic fields of 110v wiring and painting the studs with clay.
Many people with chemical sensitivities are also sensitive to EMFs. The catalyst to both of those can be mold toxins. They are trying to build a house for someone, who has become very sick from these things, that won’t contribute to their illness. There are more and more people contracting illnesses like this than you would think.
@@christinewoodland5127 Thank you Matt and Luke!!! I am one of those patients and plan on building a healthy house for myself. This episode is educational to me.
09:07 Even if spraying a conductive paint on a metal conduit improved EMF attenuation, the way it is done here is sloppy, and is just a waste of money. They only paint on one side of the conduit, and don’t bother spraying through or even at areas close to penetrations.
Nice one. Cant wait for the day #woolinsulation gets a fair shake. It improves indoor air quality and manages moisture, while outperforming as an insulator. We're doing loads of work in the chemically sensitive arena and look forward to common sense becoming more common.
Andrew, Havelock Wool
I'm allergic to wool.
I’m an architect and I did a commercial office interiors project (years ago) for a similar client with severe allergies to environmental building products like plywood, carpet, paint etc. it seemed a bit over the top to me at the time, but it was a real thing for him. We used everything available to us to eliminate VOCs and - when the project was complete - he still couldn’t stay in the office for more than an hour per day. Even after flushing fresh air and off-gassing the site for 2 weeks - it was still a problem for some time. Interesting project Luke & Matt. I won’t use the cobalt paint idea :-) but I’ll use some of the others!
MJ
Worked on a job similar to this. Client was really sensitive to EMF, which caused migraines, & severe allergies. The children had immune system issues, & needed the house to be extremely low on allergens, like none, & even had to create positive/negative pressure in certain rooms w/ separate HVAC systems..... Very very intricate detailed work & in the end, turned out great. The other big issue, paint. Couldn’t use anything w/ VOCs etc... So, had to have everything done and coated long before client moved in & again, used very similar products that are in this house.
Living in FL, wish had some of the “tech” in those houses in my house to alleviate black mold, dust, humidity etc....
Great interesting vid....was geeking out! 🤣
Cheers✌🏼
Reading about your client made me think...Munchausen Syndrome and Munchausen by Proxy Syndrome.
@@Aepek Why do you automatically assume that these people were sane?
@@Aepek Yeah, run and hide from logical argument - the domain of the weak minded.
@@Aepek Respond or not - it makes no difference to me - I let my posts stand on their own merit of logic - they don't require validation from you or anyone else. But the fact you won't address the point speaks volumes about your ideological position. Of course, anyone that calls out your nonsense must be a troll because you couldn't cope with the reality that you could be wrong.
@@TonyRule I figure no need to troll. just smile and laugh. This is not my customer. People do what they want to do for their own reasons.
They must be building this house for Chuck McGill. Where are the foil blankets?
Lol!! That's the first thing I thought of!! Haha Better Call Saul
They're stapled on the exterior before the siding is installed... to block the "radiant heat"... *wink,wink*
Can't wait till we see the.follow-up vid.where Matt shows how this client ripped apart the house to find that unshielded cable :)
Is he still alive? They never made it clear, but I'd assume he burned up.
We are to assume he died. Until we see a body,is he really dead?
I like the idea of the garage vent and the spray on natural mold inhibitor, but the EMI shielded wiring and the weird subfloor materials.... WHAT? lol
Nothing too crazy with MC in residential other than added cost for no real benefit but that EMI paint is batshit loopy.
Should just double stud and run EMT.
Emt conduit all day everyday! Chicago 🇺🇸
@@beniamincolta709 I worked in a early nuclear power station. They used Faraday shielding on some of the lab areas. [ Got to keep the EMF and cosmic energy out ] Bottom line - It's the client's nickle. If he wants a pyramid lined with aluminum foil do the best you can while building to code and build quality. MC cable is a good idea, just expensive for residential.
Chicago it is. I'm glad I'm in California now.
omg... 😂🤣😂🤣 _”when clients have more money than sense”_
An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
@@s0uthp4w68 sorry there isnt enough em from a 120 volt 60 HZ house line to worry about anything. along with they are putting clay on mare wood because of chemicals......what chemicals.
10:53 the customer isn't that dumb
@@3398halofreak The clay paint is a practical product. It's to prevent mold and bacteria growth.
@@3398halofreak You misunderstood, the usual mold inhibitor would be the chemicals, so they used a natural inhibitor.
Awesome detail with the Siga tape! Thanks for that, I'll be using it in the future since I only get about 4-8 linear feet per sausage tube of liquid flashing on that detail.
Those walls should be shimmed straight and level to the high spot on the slab and the gaps grouted with structural grout.
@@bgt63 I bring my Zip sheathed walls flush to the edge of the slab and use the gap between the round over on the slab and the sheathing to air seal the base plate. I don't see a point in shimming something that isn't out more than 1/8" in 10'. If any of my slabs are out more than that, me and the concrete contractor are going to have a come to Jesus meeting that's going to cost him.
@@unglabooboo slabs around here are always +/- 1/2" which can mean 1" sometimes. Needless to say, working on slabs is a drag for us. On condos over parkade slabs with we have to shoot the elevations of exterior/LB walls and all bearing points. They usually pour a leveling slurry after framing and rough ins. It would be a lot of caulking, and by the time you're up 2 floors, the roof would be a mess, not to mention DW cracks etc.
When you're building a house for a crazy person.
They are literally covering shielded wires with paint to shield them. That would be like wrapping a faraday cage in a faraday cage, I wish the engineers would explain to the client how crazy that is.
Also, if that paint covering isn't perfect, it doesn't work, in fact if there were any EMF coming from that double-shielded wire, it would be concentrated at every point where the paint is nicked or thinned out.
Run an EMF detector near home wiring and then come back and tell me how dumb you just looked. This client isn't crazy, they're aware of something you are not.
Someone probably tried, but then the check cleared so they said screw it, whatever you want.
@@ShotGunner5609 I wouldn't.
At the end of the day, my duty is to the customer, if they want something that causes the very thing they want to avoid, I'll stand firm on it.
the owner sounds like a fun person
Life of any party, I'm sure.
Fun ?? Sounds obsessive compulsive and hypochondriac. Some serious stuff happening. Hope she doesn't have to move ever because no one would pay for these upgrades?
Let's all play JUDGE THE CLIENT!!!!
Austin is full of them.
@@nakedanimegirlspls i understand, but that topped with the special wiring and coating......
For all of you who are making your sarcastic comments, you are showing your Clients your attitudes. The Client is paying. Our job is to give the Client what they want. It has been known for many years the health issues of everything this Client is trying to address and minimize as much as possible. I applaud anyone willing to pay for a healthier environment in their own home. Some people have severe health issues and are sensitive to these issues more than others or have just become more educated and aware and are willing to pay to mitigate them now instead of waiting until they receive a diagnosis that is a death sentence. Instead of mocking them and being sarcastic you might want to actually pay attention learn these methods of mitigation to add to you skill set. But then that would take comprehension that you don’t know everything.
Matt: Now I'm noticing a chicken foot and some sage. What's that all about?
Builder: The buyer has a problem with Indian Spirits haunting her at night, so we brought in a consultant and he recommended a voo doo chant. So the sage and chicken foot does something to take care of that.
Matt: ahhhh....
Greg Gallop oh my God I fell out of the chair when I read your comment! 🤣😂
@@jaysson1151 - We aim to please!
I choked on my own spit, that was good man
I was wondering what was next .
Ahhh Got ya.
I hope the builder put in their pain and suffering charges. This is the type of customer that will call you back for bad feng shui :-)
LOL or it's not built using the "Golden Ratio"
@@BGraves I'm sorry, have you ever lived in a building where the fractional harmonic resonance of the wiring isn't close to the golden ratio? It sounds like a swarm of mosquitos with off color auras everytime you drift towards sleep.
@@HypherNet Ok Karen, quiet
This is one of the best if not the best videos how to build and insulate a new timber frame house. Also, how they build in Switzerland (also filmed by Matt) having only wood insulation. I love this Matt. Please give us more details on the build. Not only the theoretical approach. Learn us how to build by example, showing the trade.
Healing crystals would be a wise addition to this house.
back in 2005 i had a home owner have me place large healing cystals in the wall before sheet rock was installed...and yah it was in Austin .
Crystals only work if your 7th Chakra has been re-aligned.
Thank you for this video. It takes a genius to build a house right the first time. I helped my brother he was building a second floor on his house. He didn't want to do the extra sealing on it. My nephew had health problems so he went online before building. He acted like I knew nothing about building and didn't want to listen. I watched all this old house and Bob Vila own show also. My brother didn't seal the house right. 9 years later he had leaks around the Windows. He didn't use rubber peal and stick. low quality tape on house wraps. I wanted to caulk the seams. He had foam panels and didn't tape the seams properly. He had very high bills summer and winter. Higher than my parents house built in 59 same size home. All I did was added insulation 7 '' in attic of my parents house. Original metal Windows and no insulation in the basement. We need more shows that teaches the right way. I also watched Mike Holmes build it right. Sorry for any misspelled words even my phone doesn't know what I'm writing.
Foam free, except for the foam...and the other foam.
He didn't charge her for the foam. So, foam... free. 😉
Just love those extra large overhangs and important areas especially something that Frank Lloyd wright was very conscious of also
"What's the benefit of doing that at this framing stage?"
"We got paid a boat load of money to do it."
Planning a 1600 sf house in Acton Maine. Bitter cold, heavy snowfall winters and hot as heck in July and August. I have found excellent ideas in your videos and though I'm not chem sensitive, the insulation and waterproofing suggestions in this video have been most helpful. So thanks, Matt.
I would like to see @Home Performance do some EMF readings on this house to see if MC & black coating make a difference compared to a regular house.... Also dont forget those HVAC motors produce massive EMF!!
The wires are run inside a faraday cage, there is no EM fields to mitigate.
@@jrmead Even with the shielding on the wires, there might still be mitigation needed for low frequency noise (aka dirty electricity) introduced on the wires by local switching power supplies, solenoid motors (fridge, dishwasher, washer, pumps). Performance testing would be important (any mistakes during installation will diminish shielding value) and I am sure the clients can acquire handheld meters within their budget ;-)
I like the idea of connecting the foundation to the sheathing with some vapor proof application I mean how many houses would probably lose all their heat in a matter of minutes especially old houses due to not paying attention to all these critical areas
Quick, someone tell them about neutrino and graviton shielding
lets not forget about the auto-Lysol sprayers at the doors to disinfect the client from Covid-19.....
I gravity shielded your mom last night.
Skip Intro 0:33
Prevent Leaky house 3:41
Garage 4:37
Motion Sensor Exhaust Fan 6:20
Kaoiln Clay 7:05
EMF/EF wiring 8:45
Ziip R Sheathing (Thermal Brridge Gap) 9:33
Ceiling Insulation 11:20
3/4 MGO Instead of Plywood 12:40
Stairs 14:12
Roof Deck 14:30
Conclusion 15:20
Good old rock-wool insulation. Its what we have in all of our house's cavities for insulation. Smart clients.
The client got a huge law suit settlement. Run.
13:36 you can just buy plywood that uses NON-VOC adhesives.
like they make formaldehyde free plywood.
I know at least 1 manufacture in Oregon that make them.
they just cost more then regular plywood, but I'm sure it is cheaper then your fiberglass netting impregnated mystery board.
I've seen the MgO boards at a discount builder's supply store, they're a few bucks more than good quality plywood.
That store was advertising them as backer boards. They cant mold or fall apart and are much more rigid that other backers for tile.
You made me spit out my coffee with your "fiberglass netting mystery board!" Good one!
this is an ok first draft for such an unusual requirement, but the explanation and tour was excellent
Matt, so glad you bring us alongside you while navigating all the newest and improved fab in the market place.
Of course, the air-tightness of the house is great, and I really like treating an attached garage as an exterior room, including the ventilation fan. But the rest? If this client is actually sensitive to EM fields (hint: they're not) then they need more than that shielding on the cables. They should be walking around in a Faraday cage at all times.
Another plan would be to build the house, then leave it unoccupied for several months with a large amount of ventilation to clear out the VOCs. As mentioned, they still had to use some glues and foam. After a month or two, plywood, osb, or plain lumber don't have very much smell left. If you want to be really sure ventilate it for longer; it sounds like the customer could afford it.
Thanks for demonstrating *humility*.
One day, we will all have been wrong to doubt somebody on something that sounded like nonsense; and since we can't tell right now what that thing will be, it pays to keep an open mind... especially when we're not footing the bill.. :- )
The problem is some people's minds are so open they get contaminated with faeces.
@@TonyRule a mind that is too open is prone to falling out
Lots of insulation but I have a feeling there will be at least one snowflake in the house this winter!
It always put a smile on my face at the end of his video when Matt would say “on the build show”. Thanks for describing details of this building.
I find this build to be riddled with man-made solutions to man-made problems.
The client needs to get on my level.
Cave living has completely freed my well being. Every day feels like I've just been born and my chakra is now a beautiful deep purple 💜.
I would have opened up a separate LLC for this house build alone. Maybe keep that LLC around for future loonies.
When a rich person does stuff like this, they're "eccentric" but when the hobo in front of my house wears foil on his head he's "crazy"
Having lots of money is actually what causes the crazy. Look at any celebrity.
@Bryon Covell, It is obvious how someone leans politically when the only (bad) rich people they ever think about are "celebrities".
@@roxyraccoon8856 Where did he say they were the only bad rich people? Its not smart to make ASSumptions.
You have a good grasp on this stuff.
I'm not rich (at least buy American standards) and I'm doing all this stuff to my house during a remodel. I'm just putting my own labor into it, saves an ass ton of money.
Some of the stuff is a bit much, but I really do like the outer zip sheathing with all rockwool interior insulation. I bet that will be a very sound dampened home that insulates well.
The client would have saved money building with a steel frame or reinforced concrete.
40 feet thick with no windows and doors. If the concrete floor were thick enough she would become weightless. Just kidding! Concrete doesn't block the effects of gravity.
Am I missing something.... He said client could have saved money building with steel or concrete. What does your comment about ignoring gravity mean?
The client would save some money with good psychiatric help.
The client is crazy. Couldve build a normal house and said they did all this stuff and she wouldnt notice.
Annnnd that is why y'all are not builders
Lol. Every comment is about how crazy the homeowner is. 😆
Matt, thanks for the quality videos.
Can you make one about the pros and cons of a powered roof exhaust fan for residential use? I would really like to see and hear your thoughts on this!
"Client driven build" sounds like code for "major pain in the ass."
Just knowing it’s built in Austin tells me she is a total snowflake , she needs a bubble to live in. And yes an unlimited budget
The only response I have to these comments is my wife. She has serious sensitives, can smell the weirdest things hours after they are gone or smell smoke on someone after they shower. The client might have been a snowflake, but she will be a happy snowflake.
@@Travlinmo
I run across people like that with my food sensitivity. They can't believe gluten is harmful to some people. I am also sensitive to certain chemicals, perfume, Kerosene,gas and a lot more.
@@toddkratzer7953 It has nothing to do with any of that.
Sure chemicals or irritants can cause issues.
No one is RF Sensitive. That's what people are talking about. Double blind studies show, people can't tell when RF is on or off, studies were done using various technologies ranging from 100 mhz to 100 Ghz.
am i the only one who thinks "the client" sounds an awful lot like the older brother of Jimmy/Saul from "Better Call Saul"?
Has problems with EMF, goes to extraordinary lengths to shield wires in the walls, all the wires attach to ... Outlets which stuff is plugged into. Didn't see the part where the whole house is wrapped in a Faraday Cage. Maybe later! Oh, make sure to never turn on the Mains breaker either!
Please tell me this person doesn't work for the government!
Do you even know what you are talking about?? EMF shields work!! It is no problem that there are outlets and / or you have parts that are not shielded at all. The shield work for the part that is shielded.
Im glad that someone else made this comment. I was thinking the same thing. I was also wondering if they put ferrite caps over the outlets. It doesnt look like it, so i hope the nut job doesnt too hurt by the EMF demons.
As for the person working for the government... yes, they likely work for the government. You can also guess who she voted for in 2016.
That client knows all the conspiracy theories! The builder is going to get so many call backs.
Lot's of tacos. Haha. Maybe this is the brothers house from better call saul
The best thing for electrical emf is a high / low pass filter, shielded wire is great if it's only grounded in one location, if its grounded in two spots it's bad, but most importantly emf paint and wired internet. Honestly doing more then your bedroom is likely overkill its about an ability to recover from stress not avoiding stress permanently. And I'm really sensitive my joints will hurt wherever I keep my phone but minimizing the emf from your outlet in your living room is not needed, except if its carrying a secondary frequency, but again that's resolved with a capacitor/ diode assembly not shielding... magnetic fields fall off very quickly secondary frequencies can travel further
There sure are a lot of name calling haters in these comments. I, for one, don’t like stinky build materials (except for some new car smells), so it was interesting to see this. Thanks Matt!
I LOVE when people say "it's all natural" my canned response is, "so is arsenic". This client is obviously nuts. I'm amazed they could accommodate her this well.
A pack of wolves is natural
if people only had a clue how close around it is in everyday life example Apple seeds contain a plant compound known as amygdalin. ... It is harmless when intact, but when the seeds are damaged, chewed or digested, amygdalin degrades into hydrogen cyanide. This is very poisonous and even lethal in high doses (4, 5). Cyanide has been used as a poison throughout history
@Sendit Sunday am always amazed that more people dont die just trying to see who can out do each other for a darwin award LOL.. For myself I have no reason to want to eat apple cores but assume that hogs might like them :)
As long as it pays. Upcharge for the specialties.
This is very informative to see a builder take so much care of a client’s concerns. It goes to show that builders really know building science and provide great service for their client. Go Luke!!
What happens when the printing on the zip wall starts to outgas 🤣🤣🤣
Lol
The client screams, I'M MELTING!., I'M MELTIINNNGGG!!
I did a lot of research on electromagnet radiation. It come out of large powerlines, and cell towers, and routers and of coarse cell phones. Living in Austin tx where you can probably pick up 10 router signals and there is a cell tower every 5 miles, I am not really sure that coating those 110 flex conduit cables will really help, but I do like the flex conduit over the Romex and the metal boxes. It is is nice commercial detail.
The boxes were not metal, but blue thermoplastic.
The only way to get away from emi radio signals is to live in a faraday cage in the galactic void. Nothing will affect them there
"Rocks, which are a natural material" ... some rocks have stuff like uranium in them...
Asbestos, lead, celery. Chocolate is the only thing in nature that won't hurt you.
Actually most rocks have uranium in them. Luckily, uranium is a natural material, and in the concentration found in most rocks it's less radioactive than a sunny afternoon.
kinda like folks living in California.... because the ONLY thing that doesn't cause cancer is "Cancer".....
They are worried about chemicals in their house then allows painting cobalt all over their wiring, lol. Do they know how toxic that is?
I shake that shi- on my popcorn like it's going out of style. Mmmmm....delicious.
It's not like it's a heavy metal or anything... oh, wait...
But realistically unless you go eating it, there's no problem anyway. Of course, once this place comes to the end of its useful life and is demolished or remodelled that's a whole different kettle of fish.
Just a nutcase customer with money.
@@sigor2011 Or too much credit. (ie used a lot of debt)
What's interesting is the stuff they painted the electrical wires with and the clay spray stuff on the framing those are also "chemicals". They exist everywhere, crude oil is a chemical made in the Earth, water is a chemical, etc.. but you know they have no problem breathing the dust out of a magnesium fiberglass subfloor later the foot traffic over time will make a fiberglass come loose and be particulate in the homes air.
I love seeing these building alternatives!
Your killing it man. Thanks for another great one!
or you can go for real natural non toxic materials and you timber frame with natural wood, fill the walls and cover the frame with clay-straw to protect it for 500+ years, airtight the house inside with clay plasters, insulate the house from the outside with wooden fibre boards and plaster outiside with lime; also insulate the house uder the slab to make the insulation continious
Yeah, but that would require a different set of consultants.
MhUser what would be the natural insulation under the slab?
@@northavealum you tell me :) but foam glass would be the best (www.geocell-schaumglas.eu/en/) -> its not 'natural' but does not emit anything and is a great way to insulate the slab especialy when you need to change the ground under the slab anyways for some reason;
I'm surprised everyone doesn't have to wear protective coveralls and booties to work on this job site. I would really like to see more of this house further into completion.
“You don’t stuff your sweater between your ribs.” Matt says that a lot, too. It was coined by Joe Lstiburek regarding what he calls “the perfect wall,” which requires the water, air, and vapor control layers to be behind the insulation and outside of the framing. But Matt! If an engineer applied to work for you wearing a raincoat under his sweater, and his exterior cladding, his shirt and tie over the top of that hot mess... you’d write him off as a nut job.
Keeping the garage sealed off from the house does seem like a worthwhile thing for even normal people.
I also vent my garage as much as possible. Not just for fumes but for 100+ temps, cause some crazy stuff when you park your hell fire 🔥 hot car!
I refuse to store gas cans inside garage, after i had one burst from being next to freshly parked engine. It was routinely 120+ before venting the attached garage.
You should be really careful using MgO sheats, we had a couple of big cases in Denmark. Where water got through the sheating and into the insulation and rotted the studs. The magnesium chloride disintegrated screws etc.
I would have a second look at the roof sheating to make sure it is not damaged..
So what do you recommend using?
@@akiwacz997 Paperless drywall, a la fiberglass backed drywall, common in commercial. Much more expensive, though.
Love to see the water proofing on the patio over the garage, also the flooring material used.
Is the metal roof going to be made from aluminum? Have to keep out those government control rays.
Lots of great ideas. Thank you.
I bet that Matt is overjoyed that he isn't building for this client.
What type of house did she live in for the first 4 or 5 decades of her life?
How was her work space built? Does she go into restaurants, salons, gyms?
Travel roads alongside petroleum vehicles? Experts sure are fun.
These people are not rational, so your questions will not make her think rationally.
She may have just gotten sensitive recently. I've been chemically sensitive for over 21 years now, and It's a very limiting condition. Restaurants are OK but salons and gyms I can't be in. Travel is very difficult because of ubiquitous use of air "fresheners" used in almost all hotels. The malady mostly affects women.
Barbara Smith
Yes I understand chemical intolerance, my sympathies to you, as my wife gets a bad headache every time she is close to someone wearing perfume. It is the supposed sensitivity to electromagnetic radiation that makes me think she is not all there.
@@barbarasmith6005 "The malady mostly affects women." Of course it does - they're far more irrational and neurotic.
@@parajacks4 _Excellent point!
Sealing up the house protects against car fumes and other 2.5pm. The number one relationship in air quality to asthma and autism is the level of 2.5 pm in the town. Merv 13 air filters are a must on the fresh air intake, I had not thought about doing humidity control at that point. That is a great idea.
Armored shielded Romex otherwise more commonly called BX.
8:55 why the hell did he describe BX like that
MC
Considering that there are several alternatives to foam for insulation that have superior attributes, I don't get the hate in the comment section. Rock wool, wood wool, sheep wool, cellulose heck even hemp wool. All have MUCH better attributes than any foam. In the case of sheep wool and wood wool, as well as cellulose you can blow those into the wall cavities and they will fill it out. Those materials are able to transport water out, should you get buildup of moisture on condensation surfaces etc.
In nearly all of Europe no one uses foam for insulation. In Switzerland most wooden frame houses are even built without Tyvek or Zip or anything. They have OSBs on the inside as a moisture dampener, but that's about it. The rest ist achieved by using materials for the wall that can breathe. Those houses stand here for ages, are super energy efficient, healthy and you don't get molding as easy.
So clients that want to invest the money to teach a builder how to build a modern house in a different way should be celebrated. Sure they might seem alien, or unreasonable, but it could very well be, that they teach the builder something by their peskiness of bringing outside specialists in.
: ) Cool tour. A lot of forethought into this build.
Owner: "Thanks for eliminating all the EMF in the house. I'm going to put a computer and router in every room the second I move in".
You're missing the important part here, all her appliances will be coated with the heavy metal spray.
I would LOVE to see more videos like this! Would love you to interview the consultant.
Mercedi The consultant has gone back to his job at the essential oils store.
He quit his consultant job and fired his boss. Now he’s full time MLM schemer
I enjoyed seeing this build, and the contractor has good workers - you can tell by the work quality. I don't know why so many people have negative comments about chemical outgassing reduction in building materials. These must be the same guys that don't use safety glasses, earplugs, gloves, and other protective gear. Health and longevity is the goal for my family and friends, so I say, "to each his own."
Kaolin is the "kao" part of kaopectate.
Today I learned! Thanks!
look up metakaolin and discover. wow concrete. and yes it is kaolin clay
Actually the current formula of kaopectate is essentially identical to Pepto-Bismol. The original formula for kaopectate contained kaolin and pectin.
@@willdwyer6782 yup I know. either one will dry you up LOL
I have one suggestion for reducing the CO and VOCs that might accumulate in the garage from cars, lawnmowers, weed whackers, etc, and that is to get electric versions of all those devices. I drive an EV, have a battery lawn mower, chain saw, string trimmer, leaf blower... not only is my garage no longer a stinky place but I have so much less maintenance to do.
The best thing is really to have the garage separate from the house. That way if your car is in flames, you are safe in your house.
Zip R? You mean foam? Glue in plywood and glulams? How about the chems in the concrete mix? Plastic pipes? Cobalt? Magnesium oxide floors? Subfloor adhesive? Liquid flashing? Have you read the label for Huber’s liquid flash??? Look at the msds for it! This house is loaded with chemicals.
Yes. They should move into the bush and live in a mud hut without running water or electricity and see how great their health becomes.
Handy Menagerie Shhh... her consultant ran his crystals over the materials and said his chakras were still aligned with his third eye, so they’re obviously properly tuned to the universal harmonics. 🤪
@@RickinICT Anything that's been buried in the dirt has magical properties as a result. Except, apparently, that petrified cat turd I discovered last week - it's doing nothing for my arthritis. And my third eye is temporarily out of commission after a dodgy Vindaloo from the local Indian takeaway.
MgO is awesome. VOCs aside, it is water, mold, and fireproof. I love it in my house, which is in a very wet climate. Very expensive though.
Interesting, however... The spiral metal electrical flex conduit is NOT rated for Romex Cabling inside as it will overheat. You use individual strands of THHN cable and by NEC Code, any length greater than 3’ must also contain a ground conductor. I am from Chicago so it’s all in metallic metal thin wall up here. It’s been drilled into us and learned only the right way “Code Snobs” shake our heads at Romex and we don’t use flex except in odd locations and for appliance flexes. The fact is rodents eat cables in walls and start house fires. Metal stops that, so the Code is a fire life safety and property protection issue in our book. If I moved to Texas or any place with Romex for a new build, I would insist on EMT thinwall even if I had to do it all myself if local talent is lacking.
I think this ultra sensitive homeowner is just afraid of anything that could be bad and seeks and evidently can afford a pristine environment and won’t be happy unless all precautions are taken. In truth, the amount of EMF in a residential setting is deminimous. It’s not like you are lying on top of the wires (exception electric blankets). If you understand the physics, energy disputes exponentially by distance. The best way to describe this is to throw a pebble in a lake, the waves produced are heavy next to where the pebble landed, but the shock waves or ripples die off quickly. “Distance disapates energy at a rapid pace” as a matter of physics. I can understand desiring electrical in metal conduit running in bedrooms where any bed would be up next to the wall as a precaution so people don’t worry about it as they spend a third of a day sleeping. Whether there is real concern is not addressed in Code. The Code centers it’s basis on “shock and fire”. I believe the petrified EMI/EMF folks are taking a basis of their fear on the unknown and lacks factual scientific proof in reality of real life living. Here is why...
True damaging exposure must be one of the following: 1. High intensity for prolonged ongoing exposure (not at all likely in any home at out 120/240 volts); 2. Fairly high exposure over very long periods (also difficult to replicate in residential wiring) but I would not use any electric blanket which is still very low energy, but it is very close to the skin and brain. 3. Some cell phone next to the head for very long periods at some very specific frequencies have been questioned. If you are spending 3 hours a a day on your cell phone complaining about RFI or EMI, then you may be right!
I don’t think it is proper to argue with people on something they have made their minds up about if they are paying the bill. I do believe in ethical disclosures to set fears a little less on edge perhaps a bit closer to home plate. The fact is Fear is most compelling.
It only takes ~2.5 mw of "high" frequency RF radiation to break the blood-brain barrier. A well insulated microwave puts out ~50 mw from 3 feet away. The problem with high freq. RF is that the body has structures that mimic antenna's. That means it easily makes it past the skin and even bone. Most people are not very sensitive to this and will never be able to directly link any problems to their environment (melanoma, tumors, cysts, etc.). In this manner it's a lot like smoking or asbestos exposure in that over time the cumulative exposure adds up. It is also similar to them in that a generally healthy life can mask problems for a long time. However, some people, after being around high intensity emitters for a while become sensitive to the point where their cell phones will make them ill if left on and near them for short periods of time.
Much of Europe and even China are limiting exposure to high freq. electromagnetic pollution and making laws to this effect. Additionally, high frequency EM is a weapon and has been developed and used as such. The effects on people are not in question. Even at low exposure. Fear is incredibly compelling. So much so it can cause denial is people who are otherwise rational. Most people are unwilling to examine habits and change their always connected lifestyle for something that most likely won't be a "real" problem for 20 or 30 years.
This post isn't a dig at you but more information and some commentary.
*Possibly Useful:* Reducing synthetic glues wherever possible. Some people _do_ develop sensitivities when exposed, or already have them do to past exposure. In old houses you see solid wood boards for subfloor and even interior walls (with wallpaper to cover the gaps between boards), or simply go plaster and lath. But to not get too crazy, plywood has a lot less glue it it than OSB and may be good enough. Not sure about the kaolin clay to "seal" in the mold spores. If the wood never stays wet there will never be a problem.
As for foam, job-site applied spray foam can be really, really bad. So much depends on the installer. Polystyrene is close to 100% free of any outgassing (XPS or EPS), but R-value is higher with polyiso (used on this job). And the comment was made about factory-made foam boards which will be far more consistent than field-applied foam.
*Completely Stupid:* Shielding the interior power wiring. I am an electrical engineer and spent years working in the storage industry (disk drives and controllers). The signal coming off the read-head on a disk drive is about 1-millionth the size of (for example) the clock signal that drives the CPU chip in the disk drive. Isolation is achieved by the arrangement of traces on the circuit board, flex circuits, and wiring. Which are designed to self-cancel either transmitting interference or picking it up.
Romex is a pretty good physical configuration to self-cancel electromagnetic interference. Hover a probe at the surface of the outer jacket and you see a huge signal. Pull back an inch and that signal has dropped by 20 fold. Pull back to 2 inches (the surface of a wall) and the signal down several-hundred fold. A few inches from the surface of the wall the signal is no longer measurable. If you have an imbalance between hot and neutral (enough to pop a GFCI breaker) then your wiring can spew 60-cycle fields into the room, but they'd still be pretty weak. If the client wants to pay for it, populate the panel with all GFCI breakers as insurance (no pops = no problems).
The client's "consultant" is either an idiot who doesn't understand the fundamentals of physics, or they're a charlatan.
*Other Thoughts:* A few years back the US received shipments of gypsum wallboard that were heavily contaminated by sulfides. Move into your new home and within weeks your eyes would be watering and you couldn't function. I know of one new home buyer who had no option to move out of their home while the insurance company delayed, so they pulled all the wallboard out of their home themselves, and lived with exposed studs and fiberglass insulation. One could test shipments of wallboard for outgassing, or go back to plaster and lath.
Finally, forget the power wires in our walls, what about all the radio waves that surround us? If the client was serious they'd insist on wrapping their exterior walls and roof with electrical shielding. However doors and windows would be a tough challenge. If successful no cell phones or radios would work inside their house. The "consultant" suggested fixing a non-problem, but ignored the one thing that is measurable (but probably harmless) because it's almost impossible to get right.
Oh my, just waiting for you to show a huge exterior bubble. I can understand to be safe but man that a little overkill. I guess whatever the home owner wants
You should be looking for Japanese white plastering. It absorbs VOC and has antibacterial property. I believe Venetian plaster has the similar components.
Forget the paint which still has chemical.
Bet it was easy to get this person as a client as she could find no one else willing to build this nightmare... i can see her crystal collection now
The only "client concern" I had the biggest "WTF" moment over the RMF (A rotating magnetic field is a magnetic field that has moving polarities in which its opposite poles rotate about a central point or axis) concern. The other "WTF" moment was over the subfloor, not so much about the specific product but the dimension (3/4 inch). Since they did not cover the "on center spacing" (I assume there is a basement since Matt was doing the "bounce test") this might be mitigated with 12 inch spacing of the joists.
Foam free = the way we used to build houses.
I do like the exhaust fan in the garage.. but not because of fumes really, more to help get rid of the heat.. I'd love to get 100-200 CFM running an hour or two after the car comes in to cool the garage off.
emf sensitivities... are you kidding me? This homeowner sounds like an awesome client...
Can you imagine how much that clay coating cost?
All humans are emf sensitive. It has been proven that prolonged emf radiation causes cancer and brain tumors. I personally get major headaches from WiFi and if I use my phone too much. Got rid of the WiFi and my headaches have gotten significantly better and if I lived in a house built like this I would probably be free of all headaches. If only this was a standard practice!
Crystal Vrba Proven?
@@Crystal-vp7wr, Better live in a steel and lead encased, concrete bunker then, because as soon as you leave that bunker, your head is gonna explode from all the radio waves going through your brain ! lol
Also, how are you preventing all the other WiFi going through your house from your neighbors ?
@@Crystal-vp7wr According to WHO, this is not recognized. www.who.int/peh-emf/publications/facts/fs296/en/
Great work Luke. Thanks for taking the time to share this Matt. We are in the preliminary stages of building a net-positive passive house with very similar materials: MGO board, foam-free, formaldehyde-free plywood, EMF reduction, and incorporating biophilia. It’s a new undertaking for us, but the more we delve into the science, research and testing of it, the more it makes me a believer in this type of building.
Interesting. You and your building friend need to read "The Healthy House" book by John Bower published by the Healthy House Institute. John was a college professor in Industrial Arts. His wife had cadmium poisoning caused supposedly by being an artist that used cadmium paints to paint with. She was allergic to out gassing of wood products and many other things.
Those MgO have given a lot of problems here in Denmark. They were used as a windbreaker and has result in some heavy compensation from the contractors.
Another level on this would be to use EMF foil on the exterior walls before sheetrock!
radiant shield and a tin foil hat roof.
Liking the Zip system exterior tape etc.
Umm, the Earth is a giant magnet.
Interesting build details.
But... feelings!
The fire caulk will stay in place better than the foamcaulk because the Sheetrock hangers will scrape it off in the hanging process and the caulk won't scrape off .
Man there sure alot of comments calling these people crazy....you obviously dont have a sensitivity to emfs or have a loved one that has auto immune disorders that make then very susceptible to chemicals.
Love the house!
38tech Yes the commenters lack of empathy is disheartening. Especially those in a service industry. I expected better from subscribers of this channel.
@@aayotechnologyYou're in the wrong place. However, some people are really suggestible and will believe anything. There may be SOMETHING wrong, but I doubt it's a sensitivity to EMFs. On the other hand, it's harmless to pi** away money if they have it and it makes them happy.
Gosh. OK you got me. You're dead right - I don't have a sensitivity to EMFs. But then neither does this customer or anyone else - it's not a thing.
There are ALOT of people that have issues with emfs. Just like people have tons of issues from lyme, bartonella, ect and are misdiagnosed.
Just because you dont understand it, doesnt mean its not real.
Yes, there are a "ALOT" of nutters about.
The clay is actually a great idea, an inexpensive natural coating. However, I think though a more natural approach to the framing for less cost, better thermal qualities, and getting rid of the foam completely: is building a double 2x4 larson truss wall system with blown in cellulose. Blown in cellulose is a far superior insulator than rock wool because it fills around all the mechanical systems, and it's proven to not cause long term lung damage.
In 100 years when someone remodels they are gonna be like "WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON!?!?!"
They'll be like no wonder this house has been so healthy.
Most large houses have random weird stuff the owners requested the builders to do, it probably wouldn't be that surprising.
This made me laugh. Totally true.
In 100 years I hope everyone doesn't say I wonder what went on here
Would an Advantech Decking covered by gypecrete not be a better performer and still comply with the customer demands rather than MGO Decking? If so what would the Cost benefit be if any? The Fire block Foam vs Fire Caulk decision wasn't clear. Great exposure to a different mindset addressing VOC sensitivity. Thanks