This is an absolute masterpiece. "Life begins when you accept your fate ... I can set the pace and accept my fate ..." shattered faith! Masterfully worded song.
I don't completely understand why but the last 2 lines of that song always gets me pretty much emotional. This song (and this band) is pure awesomeness!
I think maybe it’s because it sounds a tad sloppy at first, but the lyrics are great, and then then Greg just kills it with his vocal delivery afterwards I was so stoked upon finding this “b-side” in 2002
The States produce some of the best punk bands on the planet, from Bad Religion to Social Distortion I fucking love this music and at forty something I probably always will.
Every faith on Earth says the same thing; we are all one. That is at the base of every faith, and we know that to be true. Your metaphors and analogies are questionable, but if you're a good person, that's all you need to be. The humility of musing that you may be wrong? That is Christ-like humility if you ask me! :)
***** Well, and I am against such theocratic nonsense. I don't believe in inherent evil, as I've seen no evidence of it. I believe in God, and what you describe? I don't believe in that at all. Alas, too many morons do, though...
+ROB7002 Same here actually, the life and murder of Jesus is something I think on alot ... I've loved bad religion since my youth and the humanistic perspective that they sing about is lost in a lot of "organized religion" nowadays. Understanding is the key to knowledge, knowledge is the key to wisdom and knowing yourself, first and foremost, is at the core of that. Status quo and traditionalism, especially in religious circles, if not checked, have, throughout history, always led to corrupt systems of thought and deterioration of free will ... sorry if I got a lil preachy .. but its refreshing to see a comment like yours and I didn't want to hold anything back in my response :D :D
One doesn't have to have faith to be into Zen(Dogen) or Advaita Vedanta or Non-Duality ;one just has to wake up to simply actually what is less the layers of bullshit. Yeah,most of us have to make a living , even punks, but 2 + 2 still equals 4, whether the teaching is making money or not. When Eckhart Tolle wrote the Power of Now, he wrote it from homeless park bench;now he's acquired wealth, and it is an unanticipated success, some are complaining-- maybe thats a dogma-- if your not an ascetic your wrong-- duh.Funny thing is that is the same with Punk-- as soon as a band makes it big some people say they are the official allowed rebellion. Being over-cynical, where does it end ?
Pretty difficult to explain in English, but I'll try. For example, the "enlightment" movement in the 1700's. Some enlighted writers were banned or put into jail because of their ideas, all because the pope decided so. I think that's a good example. Further, I think science can pretty much prove that there's no such thing as 'heaven'. Religion has two sides I guess, believing and hoping. I'd rather think that you're a hoper, not a believer. But hey, why don't we just give this a rest? Thanks! :)
Enlightenment is what founded America, how do you like it bud ? The lyrics in this song describe our goverments and these lyrics make way more sense today.
I love this song, It is beautiful. We are all a product of evolution, religion is wrong in science, psychology and with reason. I love biology, why add things to life? Why not be content and fulfilled knowing we came from evolution and the atoms in space, it's quite beautiful if we embrace it. This song is like saying, " Life is confusing and random,quite scary but I am not gonna fall in line, I will run against", this is a very beautiful song to anyone who feels empty, this is true punk!
Why would supposedly divine scripture need fixing? Did Yaweh mellow out over time or something? Furthermore, why would a benevolent god even allow a scripture that could be used to justify evil acts (slavery, the maltreatment of women, genocide, etc)? If you think about this critically the holes tend to become quite glaring. Btw, anyone who thinks the NT is all sweetness and light, for that matter, has never read it.
I wanted to go to college at one point in life. The main 2 reasons: girls and I would shit my pants if I got accepted to UCLA or Cornell and was lucky enough to get a seat in one of Greg Graffins courses. How cool would that be ?
I discovered this song after all the others and it is among my favorites among with The Defense. I haven't analyzed the lyrics yet, but I know it's about free will vs. determinism. I would love to hear the bands' meaning. Do they ever discuss their song meanings?
Every Argument is valid, any person to think otherwise, is rather ignorant, and deluded. I suppose that one reason I have always detested religion is its sly tendency to insinuate the idea that the universe is designed with 'you' in mind or, even worse, that there is a divine plan into which one fits whether one knows it or not. This kind of modesty is too arrogant for me
Greg's an exceptionally smart guy but I feel like he would rather be defiant(and make money) than seek the ultimate truth, which comes from some sort of devine source and is communicated to those with a clean enough body to receive the transmissions. But it's not a global factual type thing.. it will always be 100% personal. Health is a reflection of godliness.. and that includes mental health for all the tea, coffee and especially alcohol drinkers. Picking on religion isn't wise.. it's like engaging in an argument with a troll.
During biblical times and formation of the Bible, society drank alcohol daily (and more than likely had chronic nutrient deficiencies and illnesses due to eating mostly bread).. which makes it impossible for any of it to be credible and also explains why people were so hopeless and miserable to need a grand explanation and solution for existence.
"Interpret it wrong" How many times have you read the bible cover to cover? It would have to be zero to say such a thing. The bible - yes the OT more often than the NT granted - encourages, and at times has Yaweh directly ordering, the most savage brutality in clear, direct language. /watch?v=PK7P7uZFf5o
Oh, and btw. I'm not a hoper. My religion is to do good. I don't care if there is a heaven (nevertheless I believe in it) or not. I try to do good thing irrespectively. Anything beside making good is just an addition, customs, traditions etc.
Those terms are not mutually exclusive. You can be both. Atheism/theism is about what you believe. Agnosticism/Gnosticism is about what you think can be known. You can agree that a god cannot be proven or disproven, and still believe or not believe in a god.
I really don't see how evolution theory can collide with religon. I'm religious and I believe (/know?) the evolution theory... I don't see any contradiction...
Haha, I've had some many discussions with many people about God who kills... I'm just tired ;) Indeed God kills, but only in the old testament and I'd interpret it as a metaphor for punishment for sins in the judgement day,rather than permission to kill. And even if God kills,it doesn't mean that we can kill in the name of power, money or revange. And catholicism is based more on the new testament, when Jesus "fixes" old tst. leaving what was good and repealing the law based on "eye for an eye".
That's good... But that doesn't mean you understand. Neither pure science nor religion provides understanding. I'm not saying I understand, I'm just saying that secularism means nothing other than causation might apply. I was born from a religious side, but we all believe in evolution and free will. It has to do with what you make of life. Metaphysics is where it's at.
I don't see the point. There're hundreds of million people who are religious and support evolutionism. It's VERY possible to have a religion and don't be an idiot. lol
Well, as I said I'm (I think I can say that) "religious", I've never been thinking about universe, whether it was designed or not. I just don't care, what's the diffrence? We live here on the earth, we are people, we should do good in our life, as in this song, "accept your fate". I don't see any purpose in thinking about divine plan or not. And btw. not every religion says that, about divine plan. Protestantism says that, Catholicism rather not. Don't put everybody in one group ;)
I don't think so. Science is about the world, religion is about spirit and morality. Both have nothing to do with each other. Maybe you try to read about religion and then say where you see contradictions. If you can't accept them both, it means you don't understand one of them...
For me, there are no holes (beside that the faith is essential for salvation). God didn't mellow out over time nor the scripture needed fixing. People made it wrong, they interpret it wrong, they focused too much on whats not important, so NT had to clarify some things. And evil acts are just results of our free will. Bible only says, but people do. If you want to justify sth you'll find the way to manipulate. Or they were too stupid or hypocritical to understand that Bible is about good...
Every faith on earth does not say the same thing, far from it. It all begins and ends with Jesus Christ. if you believe there is no god then you believe in material, that material some how begat material; but it has never been witnessed, material coming into being from nothing. The New Testament is the sworn testimony of those who were with Jesus. Peter wrote, "For we did not follow cleverly devised myths when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty." Jesus claimed that: He was able to forgive sins, which only God can do; He is the Lord of the Sabbath, God is Lord of the Sabbath; He has the ability to give eternal life; Jesus claimed to pre-exist the world; (of course even more!) Jesus demonstrated power over matter and death. Greatest of all, Jesus raised himself from the dead, for Jesus is God, the Person of the Son through whom all things are created, by Him and for Him. He died for all those that will find faith in Him. Take a moment right now and ask God if He will know you? If you truly desire this God will reveal to you the Truth and save you from you sins by the work of Jesus on the cross. - God Bless. -CD
Material coming from nothing is not the position of any atheist or scientist. We just don't believe your god was responsible. It IS the position of Creationism, which describes God creating the world "ex nihilo," or "out of nothing." And the New Testament was written decades after Jesus's death by people who never met him-even the church doesn't dispute this. Either way, it would not be sufficient evidence to prove that any of the described events are true.
This is an absolute masterpiece.
"Life begins when you accept your fate ... I can set the pace and accept my fate ..." shattered faith! Masterfully worded song.
I don't completely understand why but the last 2 lines of that song always gets me pretty much emotional. This song (and this band) is pure awesomeness!
I think maybe it’s because it sounds a tad sloppy at first, but the lyrics are great, and then then Greg just kills it with his vocal delivery afterwards
I was so stoked upon finding this “b-side” in 2002
this is my favorite bad religion song. they have been my favorite band for 16 years now. love the lyric video.
The lyrics express perfectly my thoughts and feelings.
Me too
Welcome to the cult, gentlemen. 😂
@@aaronbaird1808 cult??
That's awesome. I was still listening to KISS at age 12, so you're way ahead of where I was at that age. :)
I adore how Bad Religion lyrics sometimes ilustrate perfectly my existencial crisis
The States produce some of the best punk bands on the planet, from Bad Religion to Social Distortion I fucking love this music and at forty something I probably always will.
ben haggitt SD is grunge like nirvana they even sat that so don't call themselves punk
Kayn, that's bullshit. They may not be punk anymore but they are so far from grunge its hilarious
I am a Christian, very devout.. I understand everythng I believe can be wrong, I understand no one really knows. BAD RELIGION IS AWESOME THO!!!!
Every faith on Earth says the same thing; we are all one. That is at the base of every faith, and we know that to be true.
Your metaphors and analogies are questionable, but if you're a good person, that's all you need to be.
The humility of musing that you may be wrong? That is Christ-like humility if you ask me! :)
***** Well, and I am against such theocratic nonsense. I don't believe in inherent evil, as I've seen no evidence of it.
I believe in God, and what you describe? I don't believe in that at all.
Alas, too many morons do, though...
+ROB7002 This was refreshing.
+ROB7002 Same here actually, the life and murder of Jesus is something I think on alot ... I've loved bad religion since my youth and the humanistic perspective that they sing about is lost in a lot of "organized religion" nowadays. Understanding is the key to knowledge, knowledge is the key to wisdom and knowing yourself, first and foremost, is at the core of that. Status quo and traditionalism, especially in religious circles, if not checked, have, throughout history, always led to corrupt systems of thought and deterioration of free will ... sorry if I got a lil preachy .. but its refreshing to see a comment like yours and I didn't want to hold anything back in my response :D :D
:) you cool
Easily one of my favorite songs.
I love this song!
@HaNSoNnDaDrummer thnxx for posting it man :)
You are someone, this song is awesome!
Fucking Amazing!
oh please I was appreciating Bad Religion at 8 or 9 (somewhere around there) when I discovered Crazy Taxi!
One doesn't have to have faith to be into Zen(Dogen) or Advaita Vedanta or Non-Duality ;one just has to wake up to simply actually what is less the layers of bullshit. Yeah,most of us have to make a living , even punks, but 2 + 2 still equals 4, whether the teaching is making money or not. When Eckhart Tolle wrote the Power of Now, he wrote it from homeless park bench;now he's acquired wealth, and it is an unanticipated success, some are complaining-- maybe thats a dogma-- if your not an ascetic your wrong-- duh.Funny thing is that is the same with Punk-- as soon as a band makes it big some people say they are the official allowed rebellion. Being over-cynical, where does it end ?
First hearing it, loved it instantly.
awesome song ! tnx for up
Incredible lyrics
I Love this song!!!
good job dude
Pretty difficult to explain in English, but I'll try. For example, the "enlightment" movement in the 1700's. Some enlighted writers were banned or put into jail because of their ideas, all because the pope decided so. I think that's a good example. Further, I think science can pretty much prove that there's no such thing as 'heaven'. Religion has two sides I guess, believing and hoping. I'd rather think that you're a hoper, not a believer. But hey, why don't we just give this a rest? Thanks! :)
Enlightenment is what founded America, how do you like it bud ? The lyrics in this song describe our goverments and these lyrics
make way more sense today.
my best friend and I also love Bad Religion and all other Punk Rock bands :D
I enjoyed it, many thanks to the author!
@BraveOne1990 That is very kind of you, thanks! :D
@SteveDFM Didn't notice! But I'll certainly take it into account! Thanks!
@HaNSoNnDaDrummer i've seen your are active on youtube .... u got 1 mroe sub mate :D
I love this song, It is beautiful. We are all a product of evolution, religion is wrong in science, psychology and with reason. I love biology, why add things to life? Why not be content and fulfilled knowing we came from evolution and the atoms in space, it's quite beautiful if we embrace it. This song is like saying, " Life is confusing and random,quite scary but I am not gonna fall in line, I will run against", this is a very beautiful song to anyone who feels empty, this is true punk!
That’s definitely not what the song is stating
This song just hits me ... right there. :' )
Me there I get a little sad because so many memories just come to my mind
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@BraveOne1990 Been a pleasure :)
OMFG what a song man.....pum
Nice to see, but just a slight comment and it might just be me, but I found it tricky to read such a chunky font. Still liking it.
@IVIaggotx
That makes my day!
Why would supposedly divine scripture need fixing? Did Yaweh mellow out over time or something? Furthermore, why would a benevolent god even allow a scripture that could be used to justify evil acts (slavery, the maltreatment of women, genocide, etc)?
If you think about this critically the holes tend to become quite glaring. Btw, anyone who thinks the NT is all sweetness and light, for that matter, has never read it.
Cheers.
A great song from BR
Please keep it clean in the comments :)
Remember, you can always request videos that need to be lyricised :)
This song reminds me of all debates about religion I saw on UA-cam lol
@TheLivingZombiee
Nice, i really appreciate it :) But, why thanks? :p
Remember, request your own videos!
@thedingdingboys101 You're welcome!
Shattered Faith is a great band
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+World Rockumentary Channel™ Yeah Bad Religion is my fav song from them
jajajajajajajajajaja i feel you bro(took me a while)
+F104Starfighter that actually is a song
@loard14 Thanks mate!
"Life begins when you accept your fate"!
Fuck yeah! I was born at 17 years old.
@TheLivingZombiee
You're welcome :)
well, I raise my beer to you in the hopes you don't fall into religious dogma
"life begins when you accept your fate"
ryankosik18 what’s fate?
I wanted to go to college at one point in life. The main 2 reasons: girls and I would shit my pants if I got accepted to UCLA or Cornell and was lucky enough to get a seat in one of Greg Graffins courses. How cool would that be ?
Cody Khaos if you wanted biology then YOU(get it) probly would but you would be TESTED
"I hope you enjoyed."
Yes sir, I did.
What i want is a kereoke version also man id love to put this heavyness down in between katy perry and Journey people lmao
there is nothing any of us here could teach bad religion about harmonics.
Live, we could
you mean harmony but yes!
I never said it did make me understand. I just said I'm glad I wasn't indoctrinated.
@pbrskater26 same here man!
If anything, it kind of reminds me of The Kids Aren't Alright by The Offspring.
lol i was there once, 6 years later they've long since given up
The idea that dragons don't exist but a being in what another dimension surrounded by angels does just baffles me?
Who says dragons dont exist.
know dat feel. I still have to go to church... *sigh*
He's got a bit of a lisp there at the end lol
Do you reject the OT? Do you not consider it scripture?
Chorus sounds similar to Offspring - kids aren't alright :D
Good to know I wasn't the only one to think that
offspring published their song in 1998, bad religion published this one in 2002
Bad religion and the offspring have both heavily abused the 6-4-1-5 chord progression. They have dozens of songs that are all pretty much the same
I discovered this song after all the others and it is among my favorites among with The Defense. I haven't analyzed the lyrics yet, but I know it's about free will vs. determinism. I would love to hear the bands' meaning. Do they ever discuss their song meanings?
@thedingdingboys101 So do I :)
Every Argument is valid, any person to think otherwise, is rather ignorant, and deluded. I suppose that one reason I have always detested religion is its sly tendency to insinuate the idea that the universe is designed with 'you' in mind or, even worse, that there is a divine plan into which one fits whether one knows it or not. This kind of modesty is too arrogant for me
This one is not in any of their albums right?
Miguel Eduardo Sánchez punk- o- Rama 8
it's a bonus on the process of belief
See them run in place in a human rat race. Omg does that lyric speak to my soul!
other friends
Kl
Well, religion and science aren't best friends, they never have. Try reading about it and you'll understand ;)
Injection, Rise Against, anyone ? (the very beginning !)
ufc
They are the sheep, Not you.
I'm so fucking glad I come from a Swedish secular family!
Put some cia in the. Mail box
Why does thus remind me of the kids arent alright by the offspring?
Fasttony64 well a big smoke grenade, text everyone that’s exploited and do the rescue mission. Nah better trawling me lol
the chorus to both songs is the same chord progression
Greg's an exceptionally smart guy but I feel like he would rather be defiant(and make money) than seek the ultimate truth, which comes from some sort of devine source and is communicated to those with a clean enough body to receive the transmissions. But it's not a global factual type thing.. it will always be 100% personal. Health is a reflection of godliness.. and that includes mental health for all the tea, coffee and especially alcohol drinkers. Picking on religion isn't wise.. it's like engaging in an argument with a troll.
During biblical times and formation of the Bible, society drank alcohol daily (and more than likely had chronic nutrient deficiencies and illnesses due to eating mostly bread).. which makes it impossible for any of it to be credible and also explains why people were so hopeless and miserable to need a grand explanation and solution for existence.
"Interpret it wrong"
How many times have you read the bible cover to cover? It would have to be zero to say such a thing. The bible - yes the OT more often than the NT granted - encourages, and at times has Yaweh directly ordering, the most savage brutality in clear, direct language.
/watch?v=PK7P7uZFf5o
im the only atheist in a jehovahs witness family
Shmantonio TurtleRapist same dude!! it sucks so bad
LMAO.. My mom is a Jehovah's witness..
IM IN MVPOH..
Don’t b nega -
Oh, and btw. I'm not a hoper. My religion is to do good. I don't care if there is a heaven (nevertheless I believe in it) or not. I try to do good thing irrespectively. Anything beside making good is just an addition, customs, traditions etc.
Well, we can asume that bad religion is not an atheistic band, but agnostic.
Those terms are not mutually exclusive. You can be both. Atheism/theism is about what you believe. Agnosticism/Gnosticism is about what you think can be known. You can agree that a god cannot be proven or disproven, and still believe or not believe in a god.
I really don't see how evolution theory can collide with religon. I'm religious and I believe (/know?) the evolution theory... I don't see any contradiction...
Haha, I've had some many discussions with many people about God who kills... I'm just tired ;) Indeed God kills, but only in the old testament and I'd interpret it as a metaphor for punishment for sins in the judgement day,rather than permission to kill. And even if God kills,it doesn't mean that we can kill in the name of power, money or revange.
And catholicism is based more on the new testament, when Jesus "fixes" old tst. leaving what was good and repealing the law based on "eye for an eye".
That's good... But that doesn't mean you understand. Neither pure science nor religion provides understanding.
I'm not saying I understand, I'm just saying that secularism means nothing other than causation might apply. I was born from a religious side, but we all believe in evolution and free will. It has to do with what you make of life. Metaphysics is where it's at.
Provide a single shred of evidence metaphysics, and I'll hear you out.
Seriously? Holy shit, that must be fucking horrible!
I don't see the point. There're hundreds of million people who are religious and support evolutionism.
It's VERY possible to have a religion and don't be an idiot. lol
kinda sucks, don't it, are they the kind who think "atheist" is a dirty word, my family is
Well, as I said I'm (I think I can say that) "religious", I've never been thinking about universe, whether it was designed or not. I just don't care, what's the diffrence? We live here on the earth, we are people, we should do good in our life, as in this song, "accept your fate". I don't see any purpose in thinking about divine plan or not.
And btw. not every religion says that, about divine plan. Protestantism says that, Catholicism rather not.
Don't put everybody in one group ;)
I don't think so. Science is about the world, religion is about spirit and morality.
Both have nothing to do with each other. Maybe you try to read about religion and then say where you see contradictions.
If you can't accept them both, it means you don't understand one of them...
For me, there are no holes (beside that the faith is essential for salvation). God didn't mellow out over time nor the scripture needed fixing. People made it wrong, they interpret it wrong, they focused too much on whats not important, so NT had to clarify some things. And evil acts are just results of our free will. Bible only says, but people do. If you want to justify sth you'll find the way to manipulate. Or they were too stupid or hypocritical to understand that Bible is about good...
Your cheap God should mellow out over time. However, you're right. He's never gotten smarter.
Every faith on earth does not say the same thing, far from it. It all begins and ends with Jesus Christ. if you believe there is no god then you believe in material, that material some how begat material; but it has never been witnessed, material coming into being from nothing.
The New Testament is the sworn testimony of those who were with Jesus.
Peter wrote, "For we did not follow cleverly devised myths when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty."
Jesus claimed that: He was able to forgive sins, which only God can do; He is the Lord of the Sabbath, God is Lord of the Sabbath; He has the ability to give eternal life; Jesus claimed to pre-exist the world; (of course even more!)
Jesus demonstrated power over matter and death. Greatest of all, Jesus raised himself from the dead, for Jesus is
God, the Person of the Son through whom all things are created, by Him and for Him. He died for all those that will find faith in Him.
Take a moment right now and ask God if He will know you? If you truly desire this God will reveal to you the Truth and save you from you sins by the work of Jesus on the cross. - God Bless. -CD
Material coming from nothing is not the position of any atheist or scientist. We just don't believe your god was responsible. It IS the position of Creationism, which describes God creating the world "ex nihilo," or "out of nothing." And the New Testament was written decades after Jesus's death by people who never met him-even the church doesn't dispute this. Either way, it would not be sufficient evidence to prove that any of the described events are true.
I love this song!