We used that area for a pool during the 1988 Shellback initiation. The drones came aboard for the 1989-1990 Westpac plus the hose real painted purple was for refueling helos and it was JP-8.
The Livestream yesterday was so good. Libby and Ryan were as confident as I've seen and they kept bringing up interesting comments over a couple hours and answered a TON of chat questions, which was pretty cool.
I would like to see the 40MM guns back, it was great to see her on underway, even though she was being moved by the tugs. The live stream was also very informative.
I mean, it makes sense to repurpose the tubs at a time when having AA guns are superfluous, but man, hard to beat the look of having those 40mm Bofors in place!
Certainly they make ideal storage and shelter places considering the absence of a hangar and facilities with the increasing use of helicopters over the ships lifetime . I hope the trimming is going well and it was a pleasure to see New Jersey under way yesterday . Ryan and Libby did a great job to enhance the experience on the channel .
@@nonna_sof5889Many years ago the USS Inaugural was docked on the riverfront in St. Louis. She still had her AA armament on deck. When we visited, my cousin, brother and I manned the forward 40s. We slewed them around to shoot down the tourist helicopters that were flying over the river.
"62, what's your emergency? Uh-huh. And your location? Uh-huh. And the location of the problem? Thank you. Don't worry Sir, a 16" shell is on its way. We suggest taking cover."
Yesterday’s trip down the river was a real boost with all the BS going on here and throughout the world it was good to see the Big Girl on the move as if it was still in service and heading to sea. A proud moment and well choreographed by all involved. Nice work folks !
At 6:34 Ryan, that was a mounting bracket plate for either a single or twin .50 cal, i can’t remember offhand the gun(s)…For below angle small ships, rowboats, etc. approaching with bad intent…it gave a clear view & firing clearance to the whole side of the ship….. And old, broken tools went overboard wherever convenient…
@@haunter_1845 It was a convenient, multi-use modification we did. I wasn't involved in it's design, I'm going off memory. My Design duties on the Battleship upgrades were plumbing & electrical, & some mods for anti-aircraft defense.
Ryan, the historical battleships are impressive, but your passion for this project make the New Jersey's history and structure a fascinating and enjoyable time. Definitely your knowledge and enthusiasm comes through. Thank you for your service, both military and on going.
I recently saw a pic of Missouri's aft gun tubs from astern of the ship. Curiously, their layout is a mirror image of New Jersey's layout---Missouri's fuel facility is in the starboard gun tub.
The gun tubs reminded me of a story. My dad served in several ships during WWII. In one of them his action station was a Bofors mount. One day the mount crew was on stand down between waves of planes coming in. One of the guys asked my dad a question. "If the ship got hit bad, would you stay aboard and try to save her, or take your chances in the water?" My dad said he would absolutely stay and try to save the ship. The other guy asked him why he sounded so sure about that decision. My dad said," I can't swim." The guy looked at dad and said," You're on a U.S. Navy ship, in the middle of the South Pacific, doing battle with the Imperial Japanese Navy, and you can't swim?" My dad said ,"listen, you make me captain of this gun mount, and you give me a whole crew of non-swimmers, I guarantee we would shoot down ANYTHING that tried to separate us from this nice dry ship." Motivation? You decide.
When I clicked on this video about the USS New Jersey, I did not expect to see the USS Slater. Always a joy to see Albany's one ship Navy, and happier to see that it is a great example of the anti-air armaments on World War II era warships. Congrats to Big J on her journey down the Delaware yesterday. It was a great livestream all the way down.
I'm pretty sure they left those tubs for Shellback initiations! You can see how they were used in some of the cruise videos and the cruise book from WestPac 88. In 68 I'm sure there was some Chief somewhere who lobbied to keep them for just that reason lol
Don't forget that the 5"/38 guns were the ship's heavy anti-aircraft armament, particularly effective when using VT fused ammunition. Last I checked there are still several of those still aboard.
I wouldn't want to see a quad 40 and it's fire control director following me. I don't think there are too many civilian vessels (not counting large commercial vessels) that would be able to take a sustained barrage of 40mm rounds.
I was waiting all day for ship uploads. So I checked out the other museum channels. I was shocked to see they only have 500 views on their videos. It's really sad actually. US Alabama really did have some bad content though. The Iowa channel I was impressed with the videos of them moving the turret. Can't believe they were able to do it. Their ship looks a lot nicer, but also didn't see as much as on New Jersey. So I'm sure you guys have done a lot more work. Loved the shots of the ship yesterday in the river. Really showed the perspective on how big that ship really is. And wow it looked good. Riding in the bridge must've felt like a serious power trip, lol. What a view. You could tell Libby was having a good time
It takes a new vid 5 days a week for years by good people to get to this level, a ton of work! I watch other channels too - The Independance Seaport Museum across the river, Buffalo Naval Park, USS Cod, Battleship Cove etc
Honestly, while the AA guns looked better in those rear mounts, there is a pretty good reason we stopped using 40mm and 3" guns as AA weapons, and while a CIWS gun would have a great arc of fire from such a position, the blast from firing the #3 turret would have been ... very unhealthy for any type of CIWS in those positions. Outright removal of the gun tubs themselves along side their guns probably didn't offer enough advantages to justify the cost of doing so. So those tubs were probably just dead space until they got the drone and air ventilation modifications. And frankly, if you have 'dead' space on a ship, its going to get used for something regardless.
The best thing about the Iowa's was there reserve. It allowed the hull to change and adopt changing thinking. As an example, several 5" guns were removed to accommodate the box launchers for the missles.
Those drain holes you referenced are called scuttles I sailed under the jerseys guns while riding swift boats off n viet. You actually can see the projectiles traveling thru the air.
Thank you for excellent information videos! My father was on Iowa entire time during WW2 and told me about how sections of tubs had to be cut away to fit thru Panama Canal and rewelded when go into Pacific Ocean.
I think that over the years the Battleship has adapted quite well to the changing technology and missions. They seem to make great use to the use of space. The other day it was awesome to see the 5” guns being fired as she moved towards Paulsboro.
Ryan, I have a question regarding the quad 40 mounts. Were the barrels aligned parallel, or were they "focused" to a point out in space, similar to the wing mounted machine guns on aircraft?
At the ceremony before they 16:12 moved her, one of the speakers said tgey were going to build a permanent structure on the aft. I'm wondering if any of this will be removed, or just roofed over
I do not know if New Jersey was equipped as were Iowa and Wisconsin with a large rubber fuel tank on a wheeled cart at the former 40 mm gun tub position. This fuel was for the RPV's Iowa and Wisconsin operated on the flight deck. As I understand it the purpose of the wheeled cart was to quickly dispose of the fuel overboard in the event of a fire in the area. Check out Sumrall's book on the Iowa Class Battleships, I believe there are photo's of this Area on Iowa.
Whenever I model an Iowa class, it's always in the late ww2 configuration, when they are absolutely bristling with guns. Think it looks better, even if it is a pain to paint all the AA emplacements lol.
Enjoyed the streams yesterday, even though some people were whining about the music on the tailend of the first stream, i didnt mind it, not my style but not bad either. Lookibg forward to seeing videos of the ships belly when she's in phila naval port
I think that the wwii use was by far the most significant. The repurposing post wwii was ingenious and necessary. It is after all a big target for enemies who might be able to shoot back.
A question. Were the tanks storing the fuel for the helicopters the same ones that stored fuel for NJ's original outfit of OS2U Kingfisher reconnaissance aircraft during the war?
Those anti-aircraft guns were way more interesting to see than are empty “storage space” that those tubs have become. Also, the large expanse of empty deck space doesn’t make any sense. Could those guns still be found and installed in the empty tubs?
How would the boilers be replaced if they were battle damaged or needed to be replaced because of age? Do they cut them apart or cut a hole in the ship?
I'd personally think that they'd tear out the back 16" gun for a cluster of vertical oriented missiles, replace some of the internal bolts with wielding, try to automate the 16" gun loading, replace the current deck water drainage system with a more efficient system, perhaps try to see if they can get 30MM secondary guns to combat against drones, have a new bulbous bow design (apparently they once had a more primitive bulbous design), replace the old diesel backup system, reduce the height of the command deck, get rid of the armored conning tower, and perhaps again upgrade the gun tub at the back that was upgraded for fuel storage for drones to be able to handle battery equipment for battery powered drones.
I'd say during WWII the anti aircraft was the way to go. After that I think the flight deck was much more useful. So it depends on what era you're talking about. As always, thanks for sharing.
I traveled from Florida to see this boat. But it’s not there and everything is closed. What happened? Did the boat sink ? My car was stolen and I am in a shelter. I don’t know how to go back to Florida.
As much as I like the Bofors 40MM; their original incarnation from WW2 is horribly obsolete. Reusing the gun tubs for other purposes in the 1980s was no doubt more important.
During WW2, it can be agreed the Bofors guns were crucial. However, they couldn't be used for much anymore after that war. Even if less glamorous looking, it's understandable why the back gun tubs were repurposed and I'd personally keep the gun tub used for deck ventilation the same.
3:09 God wants the success and survival of the BB New Jersey as when Ryan is talking about the helicopter there is one to make the sound effects to make it fancy.
The use of those 40's for close-in combat was more important in the early days of this mighty gal. Loving the local news coverage and seeing her movement towards the dry dock, thank you Ryan and crew for taking such good care of her.
@@timothybarham6374 Thank you for that information. Do you know what the smallest caliber was that they could use the proximity fuze with? Was it the 3" projectile or the 5"?
Very cool. You have to evolve and adapt to suite the current needs and demands of the present war. You cannot fight todays war as if it was yesterday era war.
I was looking at comments on a video about Olympia the other day and a fan was bragging that he'd aimed one of her guns at New Jersey, which stated a flame war about which ship would 'win.' Noting that both ships are restricted to 5" guns, if trucks with 5" ammo showed up on the piers which ship in today's condition would come out on top? Could NJ's gun hit Olympia and penetrate her armor? Could Olympia do enough damage to NJ's unarmored bits to theoretically come out on top? I'd put money on the Black Dragon, but I'm curious if there could be a factor which could change things (gun types, elevation, etc.)
Olympia has 5 inch 40 caiber guns and NJ has 5 inch 38 caliber guns the 38 caliber guns had a heavier shot weight by a few pounds and about 300 fps higher muzzle velocity and the 38 caliber guns also have a "base" rate of fire that is 2 shots per minute higher. I would give it to New Jersey. More modern fire control, heavier shot moving faster and more going down range per minute
IMO I would much rather have the WWII guns and mountings on all the spots they were on in WWII. WWII threatened the globe much more than than other periods after. Having the ship deck more cluttered is an advantage to me as it matches how they would have appeared in WWII. In the past, the Navy would had to have other guns of similar types from other ships that they could have offered additional guns to your museum before they scrapped the ships. At this point I doubt any guns like that are available NOW as WWII ended approximately 80 years ago. The ready made clips of shells at least could be made (not real ones) and have them on the inside of the emplacements. Maybe even some helmets (not original ones) to demonstrate the idea how they were stored. Would individual empty 50 Cal shell casings be made to sell as mementos? Is that even practical???? What other items as mementos? Thank you to all who have served. Remember all those who paid the ultimate sacrifice to keep us free. It doesn't matter if you agreed with the decision or you didn't, these brave people served FOR YOU. We all can honor that. Please forgive me for any typos, grammatical errors or errors in content as I am only human and not A. I. All information was cited in good faith.
In curator-speak, when you have an artifact such as Battleship New Jersey, that saw four periods of service spanning three eras of warfare, ya gotta pick one to be what Ryan has called their "period of interpretation." For the Iowa museums, all of them have selected the '80s-'90s as their main period of interpretation, since that is the period after which they were retired. From a practical perspective, none of the Iowa museums have the resources it would take to backdate their ship to WW2 configuration, and as Ryan has stated in one video, is it right to destroy one era of a ship's service to re-create another era, especially when most of what you would be installing would be facsimiles/replicas/re-creations of the original WW2 fixtures and equipment since none of that stuff exists anymore. At the same time, there are some historical features that are so significant in the history of a ship that they can be the "exception" to the rule of period of interpretation. On New Jersey, there are a few of these exceptions: the operable quad 40mm gun installation that is positioned on the port quarter weatherdeck in the exact location it was when originally mounted (sans gun tub) is one nod to the main role of the Iowas during WW2, which was to keep up with and protect the carriers; another is a nod to the history of the ship as a flagship, which is acknowledged by the display of Admirals Halsey and Carney set up in Admiral Carney's WW2 quarters just aft of CEC. They chose to do the exhibit in Carney's quarters (he was Halsey's Chief of Staff) because the '80s installation of the Combat Engagement Center consumed the former Fleet Admiral's (Halsey/Spruance) quarters.
We used that area for a pool during the 1988 Shellback initiation. The drones came aboard for the 1989-1990 Westpac plus the hose real painted purple was for refueling helos and it was JP-8.
The Livestream yesterday was so good. Libby and Ryan were as confident as I've seen and they kept bringing up interesting comments over a couple hours and answered a TON of chat questions, which was pretty cool.
Yup, it was a great listen
The comments where full of absolute degenerates and spammers who have clearly never watched a single
Video of Ryan’s
We need to hear more from Libby in future videos. 👍🏼
I would like to see the 40MM guns back, it was great to see her on underway, even though she was being moved by the tugs.
The live stream was also very informative.
They never served a better role than the one they were designed for but their repurposing was absolutely spot on for the 80’s.
My dad proudly sailed on BB-62 just after the War; he was a Radio man and cherished his experience
I mean, it makes sense to repurpose the tubs at a time when having AA guns are superfluous, but man, hard to beat the look of having those 40mm Bofors in place!
Certainly they make ideal storage and shelter places considering the absence of a hangar and facilities with the increasing use of helicopters over the ships lifetime . I hope the trimming is going well and it was a pleasure to see New Jersey under way yesterday . Ryan and Libby did a great job to enhance the experience on the channel .
In this episode: how worried should all the air traffic near Philly be?
Well, the CIWS mounts are all still there…👀
"Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome to Philadelphia. On your left you'll see Battleship New Jersey and her complimentary flack..."
Don't turn on the radar or everyone crashes except the pigeons
Well, he still hasn't managed to shoot down those pesky helicopters.
@@nonna_sof5889Many years ago the USS Inaugural was docked on the riverfront in St. Louis. She still had her AA armament on deck. When we visited, my cousin, brother and I manned the forward 40s. We slewed them around to shoot down the tourist helicopters that were flying over the river.
Camden ...a town protected by a Battleship. They don't dlial 911 - they call 62.
"62, what's your emergency?
Uh-huh.
And your location?
Uh-huh.
And the location of the problem?
Thank you.
Don't worry Sir, a 16" shell is on its way. We suggest taking cover."
This whole string of comments is underrated
@@Tuck-Shop Incident to 62, shell hit, requesting a full salvo.
@@sirpapps "This is 62. Request granted. That shoplifter won't know what hit them."
@@Tuck-Shop shoplifter wont know what hit em is crazy
Yesterday’s trip down the river was a real boost with all the BS going on here and throughout the world it was good to see the Big Girl on the move as if it was still in service and heading to sea. A proud moment and well choreographed by all involved. Nice work folks !
At 6:34 Ryan, that was a mounting bracket plate for either a single or twin .50 cal, i can’t remember offhand the gun(s)…For below angle small ships, rowboats, etc. approaching with bad intent…it gave a clear view & firing clearance to the whole side of the ship….. And old, broken tools went overboard wherever convenient…
I'm guessing that the hole is probably tapered to accept a pintle mount.
@@haunter_1845
It was a convenient, multi-use modification we did. I wasn't involved in it's design, I'm going off memory. My Design duties on the Battleship upgrades were plumbing & electrical, & some mods for anti-aircraft defense.
Best use of the gun tubs is as a swimming pool.
Ryan, the historical battleships are impressive, but your passion for this project make the New Jersey's history and structure a fascinating and enjoyable time. Definitely your knowledge and enthusiasm comes through. Thank you for your service, both military and on going.
3/4 currator depth
Got to watch from the bridge on the livestream. I will remember it forever.
I recently saw a pic of Missouri's aft gun tubs from astern of the ship. Curiously, their layout is a mirror image of New Jersey's layout---Missouri's fuel facility is in the starboard gun tub.
The gun tubs reminded me of a story. My dad served in several ships during WWII. In one of them his action station was a Bofors mount. One day the mount crew was on stand down between waves of planes coming in. One of the guys asked my dad a question. "If the ship got hit bad, would you stay aboard and try to save her, or take your chances in the water?" My dad said he would absolutely stay and try to save the ship. The other guy asked him why he sounded so sure about that decision. My dad said," I can't swim." The guy looked at dad and said," You're on a U.S. Navy ship, in the middle of the South Pacific, doing battle with the Imperial Japanese Navy, and you can't swim?" My dad said ,"listen, you make me captain of this gun mount, and you give me a whole crew of non-swimmers, I guarantee we would shoot down ANYTHING that tried to separate us from this nice dry ship." Motivation? You decide.
Loved seeing the New Jersey sailing down river, so majestic! (I know she wasn’t moving under her own power, but still very impressive!)
The gun tub mods seem like a good use of available space after the 40mm guns were removed.
Thanks Ryan, congrats on the move!
When I clicked on this video about the USS New Jersey, I did not expect to see the USS Slater. Always a joy to see Albany's one ship Navy, and happier to see that it is a great example of the anti-air armaments on World War II era warships.
Congrats to Big J on her journey down the Delaware yesterday. It was a great livestream all the way down.
USS North Carolina still has her WW2 armament suite installed as far as I am aware.
I always liked the reuse of the gun tubs as swimming pools during the Vietnam deployment.
We have the fwd, turret 2, 40mm tub and guns from Missouri on display at tankland. The tub is huge!
Ryan has the coolest job in the world.
40mm Bofors are making a comeback. 😅
I could see them being used to deal with suicide boats and pirate skiffs.
Or explosive drones aimed at cargo ships. The Brits are bringing back the AA corvette with modern bofors to combat the houthis.
@@robertf3479 And drones!
I'm pretty sure they left those tubs for Shellback initiations! You can see how they were used in some of the cruise videos and the cruise book from WestPac 88. In 68 I'm sure there was some Chief somewhere who lobbied to keep them for just that reason lol
Don't forget that the 5"/38 guns were the ship's heavy anti-aircraft armament, particularly effective when using VT fused ammunition. Last I checked there are still several of those still aboard.
Great timing on the helo that buzzed the ship.
I don't know, but the Bofors could be just as menacing to pirates and small attack boats as the 16s were to big ships and onshore installations.
I wouldn't want to see a quad 40 and it's fire control director following me. I don't think there are too many civilian vessels (not counting large commercial vessels) that would be able to take a sustained barrage of 40mm rounds.
I was waiting all day for ship uploads. So I checked out the other museum channels. I was shocked to see they only have 500 views on their videos. It's really sad actually. US Alabama really did have some bad content though. The Iowa channel I was impressed with the videos of them moving the turret. Can't believe they were able to do it. Their ship looks a lot nicer, but also didn't see as much as on New Jersey. So I'm sure you guys have done a lot more work. Loved the shots of the ship yesterday in the river. Really showed the perspective on how big that ship really is. And wow it looked good. Riding in the bridge must've felt like a serious power trip, lol. What a view. You could tell Libby was having a good time
It takes a new vid 5 days a week for years by good people to get to this level, a ton of work! I watch other channels too - The Independance Seaport Museum across the river, Buffalo Naval Park, USS Cod, Battleship Cove etc
Honestly, while the AA guns looked better in those rear mounts, there is a pretty good reason we stopped using 40mm and 3" guns as AA weapons, and while a CIWS gun would have a great arc of fire from such a position, the blast from firing the #3 turret would have been ... very unhealthy for any type of CIWS in those positions. Outright removal of the gun tubs themselves along side their guns probably didn't offer enough advantages to justify the cost of doing so. So those tubs were probably just dead space until they got the drone and air ventilation modifications.
And frankly, if you have 'dead' space on a ship, its going to get used for something regardless.
During sea trials in '82, they put the food garbage in the gun tubs aft. Once they got far enough out to sea, they'd just toss them off the fantail.
I like battleships 👍👍👍
Then you're in the right place!
Great work Ryan and Libby....
Will museum restore the quad-40 mm mounts? It would look impressive!
The best thing about the Iowa's was there reserve.
It allowed the hull to change and adopt changing thinking.
As an example, several 5" guns were removed to accommodate the box launchers for the missles.
Those drain holes you referenced are called scuttles
I sailed under the jerseys guns while riding swift boats off n viet. You actually can see the projectiles traveling thru the air.
It always looks cooler with the guns. You should put them back for the museum if you can
I do like the pool for the gun tubes it helped the soldiers.
Thank you for excellent information videos!
My father was on Iowa entire time during WW2 and told me about how sections of tubs had to be cut away to fit thru Panama Canal and rewelded when go into Pacific Ocean.
I think that over the years the Battleship has adapted quite well to the changing technology and missions. They seem to make great use to the use of space. The other day it was awesome to see the 5” guns being fired as she moved towards Paulsboro.
Also,
Thank you for the live stream of the move yesterday.
I prefer the WWII configuration. All the 5" guns, all of the AA, plus the crane.
Ryan, I have a question regarding the quad 40 mounts. Were the barrels aligned parallel, or were they "focused" to a point out in space, similar to the wing mounted machine guns on aircraft?
I seem to remember something about one of the tubs being used as a "swimming " pool?
I'm not sure if you've shown the CPO mess and berthing. I worked as an MS-2 LPO in the Constellation CPO mess for two years.
When this ship sailed it bristled all over with these anti-aircraft guns,She could literally fill the sky when aircraft tried to attack.
Just beautiful 😮 everyone love's a big 40 🙏
Good one Ryan. Very interesting indeed.
and the C.P.O. vent system was 1960’s swamp cooler types, changed to air conditioning in the early ‘80’s.
At the ceremony before they 16:12 moved her, one of the speakers said tgey were going to build a permanent structure on the aft. I'm wondering if any of this will be removed, or just roofed over
One of the speakers also got the name of the ship wrong.
I never believe people who show up at those types of events just to yap for votes.
I think they did a good job of re-using the gun tubs, but I like the original 40mm mount look better. I am a World War 2 enthusiast, however.
I do not know if New Jersey was equipped as were Iowa and Wisconsin with a large rubber fuel tank on a wheeled cart at the former 40 mm gun tub position. This fuel was for the RPV's Iowa and Wisconsin operated on the flight deck. As I understand it the purpose of the wheeled cart was to quickly dispose of the fuel overboard in the event of a fire in the area. Check out Sumrall's book on the Iowa Class Battleships, I believe there are photo's of this Area on Iowa.
I'm guessing you didn't watch all the way through the video.😂
Whenever I model an Iowa class, it's always in the late ww2 configuration, when they are absolutely bristling with guns. Think it looks better, even if it is a pain to paint all the AA emplacements lol.
Enjoyed the streams yesterday, even though some people were whining about the music on the tailend of the first stream, i didnt mind it, not my style but not bad either. Lookibg forward to seeing videos of the ships belly when she's in phila naval port
I think that the wwii use was by far the most significant. The repurposing post wwii was ingenious and necessary. It is after all a big target for enemies who might be able to shoot back.
A question. Were the tanks storing the fuel for the helicopters the same ones that stored fuel for NJ's original outfit of OS2U Kingfisher reconnaissance aircraft during the war?
Have to wonder if the doubled up shield metal is to better resiste following seas, as those tubs are very vulnerable.
Those anti-aircraft guns were way more interesting to see than are empty “storage space” that those tubs have become. Also, the large expanse of empty deck space doesn’t make any sense.
Could those guns still be found and installed in the empty tubs?
How would the boilers be replaced if they were battle damaged or needed to be replaced because of age? Do they cut them apart or cut a hole in the ship?
I'd like to see the WW2 armament replaced.
😂 right, u would like to remove all of that and place back the bofors.
if they recommission the ship, what changes would they make to the weapons and what hull upgrades would you think they would add if any?
I'd personally think that they'd tear out the back 16" gun for a cluster of vertical oriented missiles, replace some of the internal bolts with wielding, try to automate the 16" gun loading, replace the current deck water drainage system with a more efficient system, perhaps try to see if they can get 30MM secondary guns to combat against drones, have a new bulbous bow design (apparently they once had a more primitive bulbous design), replace the old diesel backup system, reduce the height of the command deck, get rid of the armored conning tower, and perhaps again upgrade the gun tub at the back that was upgraded for fuel storage for drones to be able to handle battery equipment for battery powered drones.
Ryan, who is in command during the two while the ship is underway?
I'd say during WWII the anti aircraft was the way to go. After that I think the flight deck was much more useful. So it depends on what era you're talking about. As always, thanks for sharing.
Looks like a good place to store lightweight items that the rotorwash could blow away otherwise.
I traveled from Florida to see this boat. But it’s not there and everything is closed. What happened? Did the boat sink ? My car was stolen and I am in a shelter. I don’t know how to go back to Florida.
the deck is probably easier to walk now than ww2. there was guns everywhere during that period.
I wish you could do a video on MK 56 gunfire control system. Thanks for your time. Pete in South Carolina
As much as I like the Bofors 40MM; their original incarnation from WW2 is horribly obsolete.
Reusing the gun tubs for other purposes in the 1980s was no doubt more important.
Was that the NJ State Police Chopper buzzing the ship, practicing for their fly-by during the un-mooring ceremonies?
Is there a video that explains what each one of all those the flags represent? I could not find one.
they were much more important as the quad 40 mm mounts, than what they became. they looked better as the 40 mounts as well
During WW2, it can be agreed the Bofors guns were crucial. However, they couldn't be used for much anymore after that war. Even if less glamorous looking, it's understandable why the back gun tubs were repurposed and I'd personally keep the gun tub used for deck ventilation the same.
You could put a CWIS there now
They already have coverage.
surprised of how little rust is on the battleship!!
It all tells the history of
Were the Iowa's symmetrical when they were 1st made???
Never heard of a helo doing a hover refuel till here. Never seen such a thing. Don't think that's possible
Ch-53s have that refueling probe?
Coast Guard does it for sure. Vertrep
The Best use of the gun tubes were in ww2.
3:09 God wants the success and survival of the BB New Jersey as when Ryan is talking about the helicopter there is one to make the sound effects to make it fancy.
Scrap metal, revamping her is a insane idea!!! Roa Aotearoa nui.
The use of those 40's for close-in combat was more important in the early days of this mighty gal. Loving the local news coverage and seeing her movement towards the dry dock, thank you Ryan and crew for taking such good care of her.
The Vietnam pool was the best thing.
Is there any records of kills of the 40s in ww2
Also as I said they are built into the deck
I’ve seen pictures where they turned the gun tubs into swimming pools lol
I like the ships look in ww2 in their original form
Just image if the Iowa Class had modern drones what they could have done with 16-inch spotting!!
Then you fail your iowa history because in the gulf war they did use drones.
@@jessicaregina1956 hence the word modern not 1980's
That wasnt a Chinook. It was a CH-46 Sea Knight.
The 40mm gun tubs looked more gooder in WWII configuration.
Big gun go boom.
Was the Proximity Fuze used on 40 mm ammunition?
Apparently there wasn't enough room on the 40mm for e proximity fuse.
@@timothybarham6374 Thank you for that information. Do you know what the smallest caliber was that they could use the proximity fuze with? Was it the 3" projectile or the 5"?
@Bill23799 Yes it looks like the smallest shell that could use the proximity fuse was the 3"/50.
Very cool. You have to evolve and adapt to suite the current needs and demands of the present war.
You cannot fight todays war as if it was yesterday era war.
I was looking at comments on a video about Olympia the other day and a fan was bragging that he'd aimed one of her guns at New Jersey, which stated a flame war about which ship would 'win.' Noting that both ships are restricted to 5" guns, if trucks with 5" ammo showed up on the piers which ship in today's condition would come out on top? Could NJ's gun hit Olympia and penetrate her armor? Could Olympia do enough damage to NJ's unarmored bits to theoretically come out on top? I'd put money on the Black Dragon, but I'm curious if there could be a factor which could change things (gun types, elevation, etc.)
Olympia has 5 inch 40 caiber guns and NJ has 5 inch 38 caliber guns the 38 caliber guns had a heavier shot weight by a few pounds and about 300 fps higher muzzle velocity and the 38 caliber guns also have a "base" rate of fire that is 2 shots per minute higher. I would give it to New Jersey. More modern fire control, heavier shot moving faster and more going down range per minute
Olympia's guns are not functional. And she wouldn't last 5 minutes.
@@WALTERBROADDUS only 1 5 inch turret of New Jerseys is functional but that is kinda handwaived away.
Olympia doesn't have much armor above the turtle shell, she's a protected cruiser
I would prefer to see them restored to quad 40 mounts like they would have had during World War II
IMO I would much rather have the WWII guns and mountings on all the spots they were on in WWII. WWII threatened the globe much more than than other periods after. Having the ship deck more cluttered is an advantage to me as it matches how they would have appeared in WWII. In the past, the Navy would had to have other guns of similar types from other ships that they could have offered additional guns to your museum before they scrapped the ships. At this point I doubt any guns like that are available NOW as WWII ended approximately 80 years ago. The ready made clips of shells at least could be made (not real ones) and have them on the inside of the emplacements. Maybe even some helmets (not original ones) to demonstrate the idea how they were stored. Would individual empty 50 Cal shell casings be made to sell as mementos? Is that even practical???? What other items as mementos?
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In curator-speak, when you have an artifact such as Battleship New Jersey, that saw four periods of service spanning three eras of warfare, ya gotta pick one to be what Ryan has called their "period of interpretation." For the Iowa museums, all of them have selected the '80s-'90s as their main period of interpretation, since that is the period after which they were retired. From a practical perspective, none of the Iowa museums have the resources it would take to backdate their ship to WW2 configuration, and as Ryan has stated in one video, is it right to destroy one era of a ship's service to re-create another era, especially when most of what you would be installing would be facsimiles/replicas/re-creations of the original WW2 fixtures and equipment since none of that stuff exists anymore. At the same time, there are some historical features that are so significant in the history of a ship that they can be the "exception" to the rule of period of interpretation. On New Jersey, there are a few of these exceptions: the operable quad 40mm gun installation that is positioned on the port quarter weatherdeck in the exact location it was when originally mounted (sans gun tub) is one nod to the main role of the Iowas during WW2, which was to keep up with and protect the carriers; another is a nod to the history of the ship as a flagship, which is acknowledged by the display of Admirals Halsey and Carney set up in Admiral Carney's WW2 quarters just aft of CEC. They chose to do the exhibit in Carney's quarters (he was Halsey's Chief of Staff) because the '80s installation of the Combat Engagement Center consumed the former Fleet Admiral's (Halsey/Spruance) quarters.
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They're called gun tubs. They want guns.
Party lights installed to disguise new jersey as a super yacht?