The Foundation is actually a great episode. Kramer's karate subplot was one of the funniest in the history of the show, and George getting karmic payback for both being incredibly cheap and for not valuing Susan (he would have been incredibly rich if he had gotten married as planned, but he was practically celebrating that she died) was very satisfying.
They are good but nowhere in comparison to the episodes with LD on it. Some of them are beyond stupid, especially with Elaine's character and what they did to her. The show ending after season 9 was the right call.
In seasons 8 and 9, Jerry took the show in a different direction after Larry left. Some people didn't like that. But I did. "The Little Kicks," "The Bizarro Jerry," "The Butter Shave," "The Strike," "The Merv Griffin Show," and "The Frogger" were all brilliant episodes. So delightfully strange.
I feel like both had their pros and cons. I preferred Larry's more down-to-earth stories about things that happen to anyone, but Jerry's more wacky episodes certainly have their moments.
Normally EVERY show changes at season 5...after 5 season they all start doing outlandish things. Aliens, ghosts, dream sequences, musicals...etc etc People who 'didn't like it' obviously don;t understand tv lol but it definitely went into that other zone round 5 and then after 7 it was all bets off (while STILL being grounded 'enough' - not a small feat).
I can easily do that comparison without hesitation. The first seasons to me were very awkward because the show was still finding its own voice so they first seasons were blah....the last seasons even if LD was not there anymore have some of my favorite episodes...to me Seinfeld became enjoyable after season 5.
Bwahahah when the kid does all those kicks and punches and Kramer just karate chops him out cold is hilarious. That montage of him beating up the kids is so funny.
@@cursedbeats9934 I care. The way he acted was wrong, VERY wrong. I still like Michael Richards and I love Kramer doesn't mean he can't do something awful, he did and I'm sure he regrets it.
I had a similar situation as George with dead Susan, a business relationship failure in my case, follow me around like a bad smell for years. A situation that was, I thought, an open and closed case now in my past haunted me for years after in many ways. Coincidences so improbable as to be unbelievable kept occurring for years after; renewing the failure.
It's actually ironic that back then there were legitimate worries over whether the show would still hit after Larry's departure, bc Season 8 is my favorite season of all time, legitimately, I love every episode, which is rare for any season, every other season has at least one or a few episodes I'm not crazy about, but every single one in Season 8 is a classic.
The graveside scene is up there with the best scenes ever. Then all he can think of saying to her is crapping on about the baseball while sweating and wiping his forehead. In
Jason Alexander said in another interview that they didn't think they had good chemistry with Heidi Swedberg, and he was against Susan and George getting engaged cus he really didn't wanna have to work with Heidi Swedberg
When it comes to comparisons of seasons, you can't even compare apples to apples. A Granny Smith vs. a honey crisp vs. Fuji vs. a red delicious. They are all delicious in their own way. Or not depending on taste. Rumor has it that Larry was only doing the show to fulfill a community service requirement for running afoul of the law. His time was up. He was a free man once again.
I belive what made this show so funny, aside from the actors and found out after the fact is that majority of things were based on real things. Real things are comedy because people are truly odd and unique.
Seasons 8-9 have a few great episodes, but they weren't great seasons. The show was still very good but became a little cartoon-ish and definitely lost some of what had been its soul. But of course that should have been expected.
that makes sense to me now.. i viewed it more as a race.. now i can think of it as a religion. thanks for clearing that up.. now that i think about it, you're right. that i can understand more.. its a religion thing.. its better than being a race thing..
I always felt the last 2 seasons were different . Other than the episode which runs backwards everything else was just fine not good or bad but just okay. Maybe jerry saw that so he ended it before the audience caught on.
Michael Richards is such a gentle and generous soul. Such a shame what happened to him. That one fateful night, he just went somewhere he never went close to before, and was clearly not familiar with the boundaries society decided were not to be crossed.
I respectfully disagree, and I also disrespectfully agree that people think that 8+9 are the best. All the classic episodes were under LD's watch, The Contest, Soup Nazi, The Outing etc.
Why is the whole staff jewish you ask??? Uh well maybe because the two guys who created it, one being the show's name sake are NY Jews...I mean come on man get with the program. It's funny though that one of NBC's concerns early on was that the show was too jewish to work across america.
@Ian Knight I hated that show-The Nanny. It was so implausible as a premise. An educated, well-spoken and classy gentleman would go for a loud-mouth, bossy, uneducated, low- class female and would subject his 3 beautiful children to her and her creepy family and their low-level ways was just ridiculous. All that showcased was Fran Drescher's figure and her lack of good taste in clothes. With our low class society, I'm not surprised that it was popular with the unwashed masses who probably have some of the same terrible habits.
It's kinda weird that the only awful episode in the last 2 seasons was written by larry david. I guess maybe Larry was bitter about them going on without him,so he turned in that pile of garbage in spite of them. Or he legitimately thought that episode was good.I love Larry, but it just was a horrible concept.
the final episode was perfect. instead of a clip show, they found a way of bringing a bunch of old characters back as court testimonials. as funny as the show was, remember that at the end of the day, jerry George elaine & Kramer were terrible people. a finale that would please everyone is damn near impossible. when you have a show where the odd, outrageous, and unexpected was the norm, how could you surprise the audience?
The idea is great: use a stupid yet real law to put the four characters in prison because of their most defining personality trait, their selfishness. All of that because of media scrutiny about the case and the celebrity lawyer.
2:14 "..someone driving you to work everyday.." Real relatable story there Berry Seinpost. More so then on set of Betrayal (reverse episode) Jerry after staring at the elephant said he's curious if the Pachyderm had recognized him. ;]
Agree, Larry David was the lifeblood of Seinfeld. Jerry Seinfeld said in an earlier episode that he had once eaten a half eaten piece of food off a food cart at a hotel. By season 8 if Jerry hit his belt buckle on a bathroom floor he threw it in the trash. The characters became completely ridiculous and unlikeable when Larry left. The ratings were good from the momentum Larry created. People that know the huge difference between season 1-7 compared to 8-9 understand comedy.
If you think season 8 & 9 are the funniest seasons on Seinfeld my God do you not understand comedy. Comparing that car dealer episode to the Keith Hernandez episode is like comparing Jack Gleason to the fat guy from Mike and Molly.
I actually liked the car dealership episode more than the keith Hernandez episode. in fact, my favorite episode of the entire show is the Kenny rogers chicken episode.
Season 8 and Season 9 sucked. Sure... there were a few good scenes, but the characters themselves are so different and VERY dumbed down. Not to mention you could tell the cast just didn’t care so much.
10000%. The show went down the toilet after Larry left. It was so silly and dumb. Some people like very broad and cartoonish humor, guess that’s why shows like Big Bang Theory and Two & a half men are so successful…Larry seemed to be a demanding boss who pushed everyone to do their very best and went for the right laugh instead of cheap laughs, whereas Jerry seemed to be way too lackadaisical and let cheesy writers like Alec Berg do whatever half baked idea they had.
@Brock Lesnar Alpha Male You are so right! I and so many others here are just tired of the subject of race. Just get on with life! It just divides people.
I really didn't buy the whole foundation gag. So the Ross's want George to sacrifice every free moment he has to work for a foundation in charge of giving away all the money he and susan would have shared. But they are not willing to give him a thing. Why not say no? He tried to get married and it didn't work out. So he would spend his free time trying to get that wife and family he failed to get. Not spend his remaining years honoring a woman he never even married. Its really ridiculous. It would be different if he had married her and raised children to adulthood and he chose to honor her and not remarry. But to ask him to give up his life to work for a foundation that's giving all his money away and not paying him is just bad writing imo. If they don't want him to have any money then he should not let them have any of his time. Oh and not to mention they said they would revolve around his schedule whenever he had free time. But when Jerry calls to tell him to come to the coffee shop because his widow story tested thru the roof he asked Wick if he could go and he told him no. Did the writers forget what they had the Ross's say? Poor writing on this one for me.
@@barbaradavis8372 He didn't really though. The invitation company did and could be sued. But again he still has his whole life ahead of him to try and find a wife still. Suggesting his free time now belongs to a woman he never even married is ridic.
Because I suppose he somehow feels responsible. Out of all the characters, he is the one who actually feels a sense of responsibility and honours deals, be it with pigeons or people. Much of the humour with George is how he is constrained by societal norms and how he tries to get around them while working within them. That is why the opposite was such a great episode, when he just flips and goes rogue.
@@barbaradavis8372 George did not kill Suzy, she accidentally died of poisoning from licking the wedding invitation envelopes. And, no, her family has no right whatsoever to ask anything of him. Period.
why is the whole staff jewish.. isnt that racial discrimination for anyone else who was going for that job? black guy applies.. denied, white guy applies, denied, middle eastern applies, denied...
The Foundation is actually a great episode. Kramer's karate subplot was one of the funniest in the history of the show, and George getting karmic payback for both being incredibly cheap and for not valuing Susan (he would have been incredibly rich if he had gotten married as planned, but he was practically celebrating that she died) was very satisfying.
Really? Shitting on a fictional character as if it be was real?
Seasons 8 and 9 were great.
My favourites!
Meh. It felt as fan fiction at times. They were soooo close to jumping the shark.
They are good but nowhere in comparison to the episodes with LD on it. Some of them are beyond stupid, especially with Elaine's character and what they did to her. The show ending after season 9 was the right call.
I love how the sensei is giving his smile of approval while Kramer destroys the "competition"...
In seasons 8 and 9, Jerry took the show in a different direction after Larry left. Some people didn't like that. But I did.
"The Little Kicks," "The Bizarro Jerry," "The Butter Shave," "The Strike," "The Merv Griffin Show," and "The Frogger" were all brilliant episodes. So delightfully strange.
I agree. My favorite episodes are in those last two seasons.
I feel like both had their pros and cons. I preferred Larry's more down-to-earth stories about things that happen to anyone, but Jerry's more wacky episodes certainly have their moments.
I love the last two seasons. The later seasons in general are my personal favorite.
Every season was better than last to me
Normally EVERY show changes at season 5...after 5 season they all start doing outlandish things. Aliens, ghosts, dream sequences, musicals...etc etc People who 'didn't like it' obviously don;t understand tv lol but it definitely went into that other zone round 5 and then after 7 it was all bets off (while STILL being grounded 'enough' - not a small feat).
I can't even compare the first seasons with the later. I cannot say one is better than the other because they are all brilliant in their own ways. O
I can easily do that comparison without hesitation. The first seasons to me were very awkward because the show was still finding its own voice so they first seasons were blah....the last seasons even if LD was not there anymore have some of my favorite episodes...to me Seinfeld became enjoyable after season 5.
Carlos Parra YES....exactly!! I agree....!
I don't think 8 and 9 are the best, but they do have some of the most iconic and memorable scenes
Love the loud laugh that stands out at 3:18. Glad someone else found that as funny as I do.
I also like these kind of distinct, unique laughs. They make you feel that they are indeed real, genuine laughs.
I just loved Susan's parents
Bwahahah when the kid does all those kicks and punches and Kramer just karate chops him out cold is hilarious. That montage of him beating up the kids is so funny.
George suggested that Susan use Elmer's glue to affix the envelopes. Hell, even a watery sponge would have worked.
that going to work analogy ts genius
The karate episode was hilarious.
The best part about the karate class was the way the instructor is looking on at this grown man beating on kids with approval.
Love the last seasons. It got so rich. No brakes mode.
Michael Richards is so wise and just a nice person ...
I'm just happy for Seinfeld he managed with only 8 writers on his own 😂😅
@@cursedbeats9934 I care. The way he acted was wrong, VERY wrong. I still like Michael Richards and I love Kramer doesn't mean he can't do something awful, he did and I'm sure he regrets it.
As if Larry didn't have all those writers... Jerry has as much credit for the success of the show as LD.
0:25 "i need new glasses, have you ever seen The Force Awakens and they talk to that Maz Kanata character?" 'say no more fam'
Say what you will, seasons 8 and 9 were maybe a different show but they were still funny as hell.
I agree!!! To me the show never jumped the shark! Always very funny! :)
Tree shrew.
I’ve said what I will.
I like the foundation. Season 8.is my second favorite season after 3.
@Jonathan Esser That was from The Van Buren Boys
Seinfeld must be the only show to enter it's reconstructionist phase and turn *more* into a traditional sitcom
Huh. I had no idea Larry left for the last two seasons. Weirdly those two are my favourite seasons.
And season 8 and 9 are my favorite.
Alec Berg... he's got a good John Houseman name. Alec Berrrggg.
I hate him, he's so pretentious.
Great stuff loved the series and hoped it'll could come back
I personally didn't see a drop in quality for season 8. Season 9 is where quality dipped hard for me. A very mixed bag for sure.
Season 8 and 9 are hilarious.
Season 8 was the best season
I love when George squirts the ketchup in Jerry's coffee
Series 8 is my favourite!
Mrs. Ross a trip.
Lol I guess that turned out great I prefer the last 2 seasons 😂
I had a similar situation as George with dead Susan, a business relationship failure in my case, follow me around like a bad smell for years. A situation that was, I thought, an open and closed case now in my past haunted me for years after in many ways. Coincidences so improbable as to be unbelievable kept occurring for years after; renewing the failure.
It's actually ironic that back then there were legitimate worries over whether the show would still hit after Larry's departure, bc Season 8 is my favorite season of all time, legitimately, I love every episode, which is rare for any season, every other season has at least one or a few episodes I'm not crazy about, but every single one in Season 8 is a classic.
Although not my favorite seasons I still loved seasons 8 and 9, different but that's not a bad thing. There's some of my favorite scenes in them.
That Karate episode... I'm still laughing after the video is finished. lol
Wish they would've done a couple more seasons.
The graveside scene is up there with the best scenes ever. Then all he can think of saying to her is crapping on about the baseball while sweating and wiping his forehead. In
Jason Alexander said in another interview that they didn't think they had good chemistry with Heidi Swedberg, and he was against Susan and George getting engaged cus he really didn't wanna have to work with Heidi Swedberg
Please, mom? PLEASE!!!
When it comes to comparisons of seasons, you can't even compare apples to apples. A Granny Smith vs. a honey crisp vs. Fuji vs. a red delicious. They are all delicious in their own way. Or not depending on taste. Rumor has it that Larry was only doing the show to fulfill a community service requirement for running afoul of the law. His time was up. He was a free man once again.
LOL, he was 'sentenced to be a showrunner'?:) I hear they do that in california.
I hate green apples. But they look great
I belive what made this show so funny, aside from the actors and found out after the fact is that majority of things were based on real things. Real things are comedy because people are truly odd and unique.
That karate scene 😂😂😂😂🤣😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Kaaaaahn!!!!
Alec Berg isn't Jewish. I don't think Tom Cherones or Tom Azzari are Jewish either.
Bruce Davidson was great as Wick Thayer
He’s that “guy”
he means as a writer
the nah is fckn funny
I personally thought season 8/9 were the best
Seasons 8-9 have a few great episodes, but they weren't great seasons. The show was still very good but became a little cartoon-ish and definitely lost some of what had been its soul. But of course that should have been expected.
Does anybody know the episode wherein the 4 wear Wizard of Oz customes?
That's not from an episode.
It is, I watched it on syndicalized tv (Sony for Latin America), but only once, I don't know what happens, but it was never aired again.
You're maybe thinking of 'Friends' or 'How I Forget Your Mother' or 'Big Bong Theory'.
Khaaaaannn and Twiiiiiixxxxx 😆😆😆👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Why did he leave??
He was burned out and felt like the show peaked
that makes sense to me now.. i viewed it more as a race.. now i can think of it as a religion. thanks for clearing that up.. now that i think about it, you're right. that i can understand more.. its a religion thing.. its better than being a race thing..
The 1100th like!
I always felt the last 2 seasons were different . Other than the episode which runs backwards everything else was just fine not good or bad but just okay. Maybe jerry saw that so he ended it before the audience caught on.
Only thing that I didn't like Susan dying bit silly 🤪
Which episode was Madonna in?
None of them.
Michael Richards is such a gentle and generous soul.
Such a shame what happened to him. That one fateful night, he just went somewhere he never went close to before, and was clearly not familiar with the boundaries society decided were not to be crossed.
is it just me or wayne kennan looks a bit like alan rickman? maybe it's just me?
Its not you, its me
haha..it looks like we're breaking up 😂😂😂
I respectfully disagree, and I also disrespectfully agree that people think that 8+9 are the best. All the classic episodes were under LD's watch, The Contest, Soup Nazi, The Outing etc.
Kramer is a bully beating up those little kids
Nah, really? It is almost as if this was the joke...
But they get him back 😂
Jason Covert
Yes I saw that clip how they got him a deadend alley
I would have brought suzy back as a ghost and given the show a new dimension of supernatural humor .. but thats just me
Haha, Susie.."the Suze"
YEP Supernatural humour! But hmm that doesn't exist, NOPQ! ;]
@@drransom01 It's not "Suze" it's Susie!
@@jonlocke1624 It's actually... Bizarro Elaine.
Why is the whole staff jewish you ask??? Uh well maybe because the two guys who created it, one being the show's name sake are NY Jews...I mean come on man get with the program. It's funny though that one of NBC's concerns early on was that the show was too jewish to work across america.
Why the hell do you even watch these videos when you clearly are anti-semites?
@Ian Knight I hated that show-The Nanny. It was so implausible as a premise. An educated, well-spoken and classy gentleman would go for a loud-mouth, bossy, uneducated, low- class female and would subject his 3 beautiful children to her and her creepy family and their low-level ways was just ridiculous. All that showcased was Fran Drescher's figure and her lack of good taste in clothes. With our low class society, I'm not surprised that it was popular with the unwashed masses who probably have some of the same terrible habits.
It's kinda weird that the only awful episode in the last 2 seasons was written by larry david. I guess maybe Larry was bitter about them going on without him,so he turned in that pile of garbage in spite of them. Or he legitimately thought that episode was good.I love Larry, but it just was a horrible concept.
you talking the finale? nah, that was fantastic. not quite sublime, but very good and severely underrated
the final episode was perfect. instead of a clip show, they found a way of bringing a bunch of old characters back as court testimonials. as funny as the show was, remember that at the end of the day, jerry George elaine & Kramer were terrible people.
a finale that would please everyone is damn near impossible. when you have a show where the odd, outrageous, and unexpected was the norm, how could you surprise the audience?
It was a brilliant concept…just didn’t work as a satisfying episode
The idea is great: use a stupid yet real law to put the four characters in prison because of their most defining personality trait, their selfishness.
All of that because of media scrutiny about the case and the celebrity lawyer.
Gregghead propoganda at about 5 minutes..
I’m gonna give this comment 5 bags of popcorn and throw in a little USS Enterprise replica
These seasons are when the show got wacky. When a series gets wacky it's on it's last legs. Still funny. Just wacky.
2:14 "..someone driving you to work everyday.." Real relatable story there Berry Seinpost. More so then on set of Betrayal (reverse episode) Jerry after staring at the elephant said he's curious if the Pachyderm had recognized him. ;]
I have no idea what you said!
Ah, you wanna try that again?
Agree, Larry David was the lifeblood of Seinfeld. Jerry Seinfeld said in an earlier episode that he had once eaten a half eaten piece of food off a food cart at a hotel. By season 8 if Jerry hit his belt buckle on a bathroom floor he threw it in the trash. The characters became completely ridiculous and unlikeable when Larry left. The ratings were good from the momentum Larry created. People that know the huge difference between season 1-7 compared to 8-9 understand comedy.
I'm glad they were all convicted in the last episode as the totally self-centered people they were-except Kramer-he was the absolute best!
If you think season 8 & 9 are the funniest seasons on Seinfeld my God do you not understand comedy. Comparing that car dealer episode to the Keith Hernandez episode is like comparing Jack Gleason to the fat guy from Mike and Molly.
What an extremely elitist thing to say. Who are you to decide what good comedy is? I happen to like all of it, but it all comes down to taste.
I actually liked the car dealership episode more than the keith Hernandez episode. in fact, my favorite episode of the entire show is the Kenny rogers chicken episode.
@@roaringviking5693 Who are you to call him an elitist?!
I never liked this episode much, I didn't like the karate plot or the big scream.
Season 8 and Season 9 sucked. Sure... there were a few good scenes, but the characters themselves are so different and VERY dumbed down. Not to mention you could tell the cast just didn’t care so much.
10000%. The show went down the toilet after Larry left. It was so silly and dumb. Some people like very broad and cartoonish humor, guess that’s why shows like Big Bang Theory and Two & a half men are so successful…Larry seemed to be a demanding boss who pushed everyone to do their very best and went for the right laugh instead of cheap laughs, whereas Jerry seemed to be way too lackadaisical and let cheesy writers like Alec Berg do whatever half baked idea they had.
No
arent jewish people white...coulda sworn it was a religion not a race..
@Brock Lesnar Alpha Male You are so right! I and so many others here are just tired of the subject of race. Just get on with life! It just divides people.
No there are many African jews
It actually is a race too.
I really didn't buy the whole foundation gag. So the Ross's want George to sacrifice every free moment he has to work for a foundation in charge of giving away all the money he and susan would have shared. But they are not willing to give him a thing. Why not say no? He tried to get married and it didn't work out. So he would spend his free time trying to get that wife and family he failed to get. Not spend his remaining years honoring a woman he never even married. Its really ridiculous.
It would be different if he had married her and raised children to adulthood and he chose to honor her and not remarry. But to ask him to give up his life to work for a foundation that's giving all his money away and not paying him is just bad writing imo. If they don't want him to have any money then he should not let them have any of his time.
Oh and not to mention they said they would revolve around his schedule whenever he had free time. But when Jerry calls to tell him to come to the coffee shop because his widow story tested thru the roof he asked Wick if he could go and he told him no. Did the writers forget what they had the Ross's say? Poor writing on this one for me.
Ahh Tyco.....he killed their beloved daughter! Why shouldn't they ask something of him? He doesn't work anyway!
@@barbaradavis8372 He didn't really though. The invitation company did and could be sued. But again he still has his whole life ahead of him to try and find a wife still. Suggesting his free time now belongs to a woman he never even married is ridic.
🙄wtf?
Because I suppose he somehow feels responsible.
Out of all the characters, he is the one who actually feels a sense of responsibility and honours deals, be it with pigeons or people.
Much of the humour with George is how he is constrained by societal norms and how he tries to get around them while working within them. That is why the opposite was such a great episode, when he just flips and goes rogue.
@@barbaradavis8372
George did not kill Suzy, she accidentally died of poisoning from licking the wedding invitation envelopes. And, no, her family has no right whatsoever to ask anything of him. Period.
Are you fucking kidding me? Season 8 and 9 are so cheesy. A great cast alone cannot make a show funny, good material is needed.
why is the whole staff jewish.. isnt that racial discrimination for anyone else who was going for that job? black guy applies.. denied, white guy applies, denied, middle eastern applies, denied...
Who the hell cares if they´re jewish or pastafarian as long as what they´re doing is funny?
3 last seasons was the greatest