The Toxic Cycle of Football Transfers

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  • Опубліковано 23 вер 2024

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  • @joaomelo7018
    @joaomelo7018 2 роки тому +1884

    In the long term Benfica benefits from this strategy because it uses its funds on improving infrastructure and buying more talent while remaining under fan control. So in 20 years we will see.

    • @warrioroffpeace3673
      @warrioroffpeace3673 2 роки тому +206

      This is what I was thinking. I think the board is very smart and building in silence while others like Manchester are destroying their heritage…

    • @AthleticInterest
      @AthleticInterest  2 роки тому +145

      Let's see what they do! 🏟

    • @franciscooliveira9934
      @franciscooliveira9934 2 роки тому +102

      I believe in the future if Corruption in the Portuguese teams is fought well, our teams like Porto, Benfica, Sporting or Braga will begin to maintain top players.

    • @Alex-pb6mx
      @Alex-pb6mx 2 роки тому +4

      @@warrioroffpeace3673 LMAO pls elaborate

    • @otempoaperta1254
      @otempoaperta1254 2 роки тому +46

      @@warrioroffpeace3673 the only thing the board did in silence was stealing from the club. It's a very interesting video and very well put. But it's far from the reality of Benfica.

  • @dylanparker130
    @dylanparker130 2 роки тому +1668

    When I was a kid, I remember seeing a documentary here in the UK all about how Ajax was considered the best club to join as a young player because their whole business model was to showcase you at a young age & sell you to an even bigger club for profit. So I was quite surprised that they weren't top of the list, but was fascinated to hear the reasons behind Benfica usurping them!

    • @D-A-A-
      @D-A-A- 2 роки тому +165

      Benfica have a similar style as ajax, it's just that ajax might spend a bit more on some players as they have a young /old age group they play youngsters but may bring back some old talents they previously sold or just buy Steven berghuis from psv their rivals captain 😂

    • @boatcrew02
      @boatcrew02 2 роки тому +6

      @@D-A-A- Feyenoord

    • @D-A-A-
      @D-A-A- 2 роки тому +1

      @@boatcrew02 feyenoord?

    • @boatcrew02
      @boatcrew02 2 роки тому +38

      @@D-A-A- Steven Berghuis was bought from Feyenoord not PSV. PSV's captain is Cody Gakpo. My comment is just to complete your statement 😉

    • @D-A-A-
      @D-A-A- 2 роки тому +4

      @@boatcrew02 my bad, I thought he played for psv ahahah

  • @goncaloaraujo6644
    @goncaloaraujo6644 2 роки тому +346

    Ederson is a Benfica Academy player. He was sold to Rio Ave with a buy back clause of 500K. You said it like Rio Ave sold him for 500K because they wanted.

    • @gamesjed
      @gamesjed 2 роки тому +49

      but dosent that make the point as strong? shows that benfica controls a big part of the youth market and does not let other smaller clubs get some more control?

    • @dude99844
      @dude99844 2 роки тому +21

      @@gamesjed thing is lots of clubs do that strategy, notably barca with jordi alba, fabregas, pique, etc. The only difference is top clubs like barca didn't need to sell their players as they could straight up compete for leagues and ucls.

    • @OmniMau
      @OmniMau 2 роки тому +10

      @@gamesjed chelsea are the worst team for that. They bought so many young players and just loan them out that's why there income was so high cause the sheer amount of players they have on their books

    • @sportsjefe
      @sportsjefe 2 роки тому +13

      @@OmniMau Which is why the "loan armies" are going to be a thing of the past when the new regulations kick in in a few years.
      The next question then becomes what do you do about situations like the City system or the Red Bull system.

    • @andre_slb8240
      @andre_slb8240 Рік тому +1

      @@gamesjed Stupidest comment i saw today on yt

  • @sumo8572
    @sumo8572 2 роки тому +633

    Goalkeepers: Oblak or Ederson
    Defenders: João Cancelo, Ruben Dias, David Luis, Nelson Semedo
    Mitfielders: Bernardo Silva, Matic, Renato Sanches
    Attackers: Di Maria, Darwin Nunez, Joao Felix
    I just did this for fun to create a strong 11 but yeah keep in mind that I have missed a lot of great players like Ramires Jimenez etc

    • @franciscooliveira9934
      @franciscooliveira9934 2 роки тому +65

      Porto my team is the same history.
      Goalkeeper: Diogo Costa
      Defenders:Militão, Alex Telles, Alexsandro, Danilo.
      Midfielders:Casemiro, J. Moutinho, Vitinha.
      Attackers:Luis Diaz, James Rodrigues, Hulk.

    • @sumo8572
      @sumo8572 2 роки тому +10

      @@franciscooliveira9934 é pena nao podemos segurar as nossas estrelas dos ultimos anos

    • @yungaj6166
      @yungaj6166 2 роки тому +90

      @@franciscooliveira9934 not even close to as good as benficas

    • @gouravadhikary8629
      @gouravadhikary8629 2 роки тому +4

      Missed Bruno Fernandes

    • @daniel_almd
      @daniel_almd 2 роки тому +9

      Enzo Perez > Matic para mim

  • @mandolfc9549
    @mandolfc9549 2 роки тому +665

    Still the best sport content on UA-cam in my view, just love how everything is explained regardless of the sport

    • @AthleticInterest
      @AthleticInterest  2 роки тому +27

      Really glad you enjoy it! 👍

    • @jeanmichelaulas1205
      @jeanmichelaulas1205 2 роки тому +5

      @@AthleticInterest great video ! Just a small problem, at 1:39 , when you show the table of what each club earned, there is Olympique Lyon, and the badge for it is actually the badge for LOSC Lille.
      You showed the right one at 3:09 !
      Saying that only with good intentions !

    • @sehrwichtig5632
      @sehrwichtig5632 2 роки тому +3

      @@jeanmichelaulas1205 great eyes i didn’t saw that one!

    • @darkworld8333
      @darkworld8333 2 роки тому

      For real

    • @quizitropa4876
      @quizitropa4876 Рік тому +1

      Benfica actually copied and mastered a technique started by Sporting CP. Bad management in Sporting during 2005-2013 led to this.

  • @praditya4610
    @praditya4610 2 роки тому +1385

    Video suggestion: how usain bolt changed the track and field industry.......cmon athletic interest, would love a video on this

  • @MrReese
    @MrReese 2 роки тому +98

    I think the key to having success for clubs like Benfica is to have a golden generation that can be convinced to stick together for a few years to achieve greatness, almost like Ajax did a few years ago before players like de Jong, de Ligt, Ziyech, etc. left.

    • @alfonsstekebrugge8049
      @alfonsstekebrugge8049 2 роки тому +12

      Yeah Ajax didn't just have a golden generation out of nowhere though. What they did was buy and sign very able role players and one underrated player who really is absolute world class in Tadic. With that the core was set and basically they can consistently rotate youth players in and keep a solid experienced core intact. Ajax has been very consistent for years now, Benfica much less so. There is no reason why Benfica can not do the same thing or Porto for that matter.
      But let's be clear here, what Benfica is doing now is already worthy of lots of respect, they punch above their weight very often and it's great to see such underdogs do well.

    • @eskipoI
      @eskipoI Рік тому +3

      That's what they did between 1960 to 1990

  • @stevennobrega7147
    @stevennobrega7147 2 роки тому +428

    For those mentioning Ajax, Benfica is affected much more than them. They don’t even win the Portuguese league anymore as a result. Plus, Ajax isn't even the 2nd most affected; it's Porto. Portugal is the biggest talent hub in world football; no one else comes close. Some people mistake it's the Dutch league, but they're not comparable. As shown on the video on teams most affected, the Portugal league has four clubs with a total balance of over 1.5b, whilst the Dutch league only has one club, Ajax, with a total balance of 350m. We lose squads worth of talent every year, not a few players. If not for our population size Portugal league would have been a powerhouse; Unfortunately, that's not the case.

    • @jk-gb4et
      @jk-gb4et 2 роки тому +6

      what if the premeira liga joined with La Liga

    • @ThePindar
      @ThePindar 2 роки тому +70

      @@jk-gb4et then no Portuguese team would ever win the league, they already wanted to do that, not worth it

    • @jk-gb4et
      @jk-gb4et 2 роки тому +29

      @@ThePindar but if they did they would have more global fans (ppl watching La Liga) so they could become better with higher wages

    • @kiranp5611
      @kiranp5611 2 роки тому +48

      The situation is different because Portugal has Brazil and has Spain as a neighbour while Netherlands have Belgium as Neighbour. Portugal can get players from its ex-colony Brazil but Netherlands can't get much from Suriname or Indonesia. That's why, but it's also a curse for these Portuguese teams, they are not as formidable as Ajax.

    • @J_x2
      @J_x2 2 роки тому +3

      @@jk-gb4et I remember when porto won the league 5x in a row, there were talks about them playing in Spain

  • @-Filip
    @-Filip 2 роки тому +78

    Unless teams can build a dynasty of young players with low wages, like Ajax in 2019, it's hard to think we'll see any Nottingham Forests winning the UCL again

    • @kylesosa3562
      @kylesosa3562 2 роки тому +17

      Then they'll be raided by big clubs buying their players and offering more money than they can afford.

    • @janarichter7928
      @janarichter7928 2 роки тому

      We saw Chelsea last year

    • @r3zaful
      @r3zaful 2 роки тому +4

      @@janarichter7928 there's 2 leicester city signed players in that team and 1 from the opposition team. It near impossible to Pull a Nottingham forest but not the exactly impossible considering clubs like leicester have enough scouting web to search for talents.

    • @janarichter7928
      @janarichter7928 2 роки тому +8

      @@r3zaful it would actually be quite easy for Nottingham to win again. Just get a sugar daddy and spend 300m each transfer period until something happens.

    • @-Filip
      @-Filip 2 роки тому +1

      @@r3zaful Yes, Leicester could have more of a chace to build a dynasty, like in 2015/16 season; but even then, it was a combination of them being good (81 points) and everyone else being bad (2nd place Arsenal with only 71 points). Big clubs have created a situation where rich clubs become richer and poor clubs, poorer, so that the surprise factor of our beloved sport is put in jeopardy.

  • @Orionstar528
    @Orionstar528 2 роки тому +24

    As a benfica fan it’s very heartbreaking to see the top players always going away. And it creates a constant cycle of the roster, and it becomes impossible to create a solid team. But besides all the financial pressures, the players want to move the more prestigious leagues, like England, and it’s hard to hold them against their will. Even in spite of all the talent we may have , teams from little countries such Portugal, have no chance. The system ensures that only teams from big leagues may win the CL.

  • @FriendlyNeighborhoodCityzen
    @FriendlyNeighborhoodCityzen 2 роки тому +17

    Just to clarify, Ederson played for Benfica's U17 squad in 2009/10, he was then loaned to Rio Ave for 2 seasons and then came back to play for Benfica's B squad and senior squads between 2015 and 2017. He played for Benfica's U17, U19, B and senior sides, he's an academy player.

  • @sameersayyad6170
    @sameersayyad6170 2 роки тому +355

    Athletic never ceases to amaze with variety of their topics covered in their videos
    And I love it !❤️

    • @AthleticInterest
      @AthleticInterest  2 роки тому +16

      That's the aim! 😀

    • @sameersayyad6170
      @sameersayyad6170 2 роки тому +4

      @@AthleticInterestgreat , you've already set the expectations high for the viewers from past videos
      Great job!

    • @TheGOATfatherr
      @TheGOATfatherr 2 роки тому +2

      I'd never be able to explain how I love these guys more than MrBeast, David Dobrik and Airrack

  • @afonsosantarem
    @afonsosantarem 2 роки тому +252

    I’m a Benfica fan and what you said it's completely true! If Benfica was in La Liga and not in the Portugal league, I'm sure that we could win many international competitions and be one of the best clubs in the world!

    • @abhaydeepsingh3368
      @abhaydeepsingh3368 2 роки тому +15

      @@akioo9495 the thing he wants to say is they'll get to keep many if not all of their top players which were sold over the years. So this would have made them a pretty good team.

    • @henrikapturs
      @henrikapturs 2 роки тому +3

      @@abhaydeepsingh3368 the same for porto and sporting that's a so bar justification to back up bad performance from the club. if pot kept all the top players they as well could be one of the best, same for sporting if they kept Ronaldo... lol
      the excuses are so funny, the money is first in this football era

    • @henrikapturs
      @henrikapturs 2 роки тому

      @@abhaydeepsingh3368 and then don't be fulled by the money they say its profit, because it is not, most of the money goes to shareholders and agents since it is a public company with shares. So they spend too much money on marketing and it works since they are the most known club from Portugal in the world. so with all of that its normal for the money they can put their players because of contracts that are not ending, so the other clubs have to negotiate, (ex: Holland was ending is a contract so that's why he was cheap and Nunez no)

    • @abhaydeepsingh3368
      @abhaydeepsingh3368 2 роки тому

      @@henrikapturs oh i actually did not how they didn't properly reinvest the money from the sales.

    • @henrikapturs
      @henrikapturs 2 роки тому

      @@abhaydeepsingh3368 I don’t know neither, but you can assume that they spend a lot in marketing, much more than the other 3 clubs in Portugal, the most known ones, and that gives them good results in the sense that they are very well known world wide. But the fact they are a public company in the stock market they have to get to stain numbers in the balance sheet, so for that reason in terms of sale looks like they make to much money, but the work that was made and spent was huge so the money that really matters is not the so big of a deal.
      But all of this was an extra point that I was saying about the justification from the other guy, if all clubs kept their best players we would not have a market and all be good or one of the best teams of the world. It’s a lame excuse for the poor performance.

  • @sergioalves3244
    @sergioalves3244 2 роки тому +31

    watching as a benfica supporter hurts 😔

    • @warrioroffpeace3673
      @warrioroffpeace3673 2 роки тому +5

      Why? The future is for clubs like Benfica, dordmund, Ajax because they play the long game.

    • @andrephx90
      @andrephx90 2 роки тому +2

      @@warrioroffpeace3673 How much debt Ajax or Dortmund have? That´s the issue here in Portugal. You´re selling 100M€ players (or 40 like Vitinha or Fábio Vieira or Nuno Mendes) and yet you have 1. huge debts and 2. having to ask for loans with big yields (more debt...) to pay running costs. Porto was even under FFP rules and had to postpone the payment of bonds that they´ll pay with...more bonds (or well, what´s left from the sales after agent cuts and so on).

    • @lourencopedro1
      @lourencopedro1 2 роки тому +1

      @@warrioroffpeace3673 not a chance. All that money made is already gone, this year Benfica had to borrow more money at ridiculous interest rates, wich weirdly enough was seen as a win by a large part of our fanbase. Its really hopeless.

  • @jotairpontes
    @jotairpontes 2 роки тому +244

    06:10
    Eu realmente apreciei o esforço hahha e sim, fiquei curioso para ver o que estava escrito ao ver que estava em português. Ótimo vídeo, como sempre.

    • @laramoniz
      @laramoniz 2 роки тому +2

      😂😂😂😂😂

    • @darochavitor
      @darochavitor 2 роки тому +12

      Maluco, eles foram geniais!

    • @uchilaandre
      @uchilaandre 2 роки тому +8

      Não teria reparado se não tivesses dito

    • @feliperaulino6857
      @feliperaulino6857 2 роки тому +2

      Só reparei agr que você falou

    • @LHollan
      @LHollan 2 роки тому +1

      Epá! Reparei só agora nisto lol

  • @FlyRocket79
    @FlyRocket79 2 роки тому +21

    That's the sad truth Benfica doesn't have oil money and billionaire owners like prem and other clubs have benfica it's from fans, they also don't have big TV rights because they play in a smaller league that's why they sell that's why that they are not the team they used to be, they are still good but it is not enough considering the history of the club the same goes for Ajax and others Football has changed on a bad way where only 💵 matters but i hope not only as a Benfica fan but also as a football fan that one day this will change again so that historical clubs like Benfica and Ajax can come back as european giants and fight for Champions league titles but to be honest i don't think it will happen anytime soon unfortunately 😔

  • @andreidoanca4262
    @andreidoanca4262 2 роки тому +78

    Great video as always Atheletic....Because I live in Amsterdam I would add that Ajax is in the same situation..unfortunately. They have to sell a few of their best players at the end of each season. Therefore they rebuild and have a new team every couple of seasons. Unfortunately that means it's hard to keep reaching the UCL finals...But I guess you already knew that :)

    • @warrioroffpeace3673
      @warrioroffpeace3673 2 роки тому

      What I don’t get is why clubs don’t look at the outside player wagers like the board. Ajax board earns far more then the players and what do they do? Absolutely nothing…
      Besides I’m surprised that clubs don’t invest their money in order to have more future capital.

    • @andreidoanca4262
      @andreidoanca4262 2 роки тому +1

      @@warrioroffpeace3673 What do you mean with 'outside player wagers'? I don't know what that is. Also not sure how the salary Edwin van der Saar (Ajax CEO) is. that's quite confidential. Besides there are expenses like the technical staff... I'm sure Erik ten Hag had a pretty good salary. Ajax and Benfica do invest the money in their respective academies...so I don't understand why do you say that they don't do nothing with that money

    • @ghaz7211
      @ghaz7211 2 роки тому +3

      As a non-european football fan, I only view Ajax as kind of like a supplier of players to the europe big clubs. Plus almost all the 18/19 Ajax golden generation is sold off to a bigger clubs

    • @andreidoanca4262
      @andreidoanca4262 2 роки тому +1

      ​@@ghaz7211 Indeed that generation is almost completely sold to other clubs, apart from Dusan Tadic. Unfortunately this is the business side of football that they operate in...and they have to sell them. They don't really have an option

    • @stevennobrega7147
      @stevennobrega7147 2 роки тому +1

      Benfica is affected much more than Ajax. They don’t even win the Portuguese league anymore as a result. Plus, Ajax isn't even the 2nd most affected; it's Porto. Portugal is the biggest talent hub in world football; no one else comes close. Some people mistake it's the Dutch league, but they're not comparable. As shown on the video on teams most affected, the Portugal league has four clubs with a total balance of over 1.5b, whilst the Dutch league only has one club, Ajax, with a total balance of 350m. We lose squads worth of talent every year, not a few players. If not for our population size Portugal league would have been a powerhouse; Unfortunately, that's not the case.

  • @pedrojarnalo
    @pedrojarnalo 2 роки тому +69

    As a Benfica fanatic myself, I must say your analysis is spot on. You have clearly done your research, well done!

  • @abhignankotih1833
    @abhignankotih1833 2 роки тому +143

    When a rich club throws 100+m on a world class player's transfer, the ripple effects caused end up hindering the progress not only of the selling club but the other clubs the selling club may raid, and going down the same pyramid. Excessive money spent by other teams is the reason why true underdog stories are rare these days😢

    • @Chicodon008
      @Chicodon008 2 роки тому +3

      We don't like underdog story anyways

    • @GauravMishra9200
      @GauravMishra9200 2 роки тому +9

      Remember once there was Leicester City who rose to lift up the Premier League,played in Champions League and are still in the top flight as of today.

    • @julius3428
      @julius3428 2 роки тому +8

      Underdog stories are not that rare, try to watch more football mate, small teams beat the powerhouses regularly, everywhere in the world.

    • @WERTYUIO821
      @WERTYUIO821 2 роки тому +10

      @@Chicodon008
      Almost everyone loves underdog stories. It is in human nature wanting to see someone overachieving like he wished he was him.

    • @Chicodon008
      @Chicodon008 2 роки тому +1

      @@WERTYUIO821 Nah man I personally hate it when a small undeserving team wins. The only underdogs I ever liked was Ajax 2019 and Wales 2016

  • @lingv_26599
    @lingv_26599 2 роки тому +15

    The video just turned into a first year Econ class 😆 lol

  • @asmur7945
    @asmur7945 2 роки тому +34

    wow. Never thought I would see a such in depth analisys of my Club's situation.
    Já agora, 6:10 , detalhe incrível! Pena que está em português do Brasil e não Portugal

    • @ft9kop
      @ft9kop 2 роки тому +3

      It's Analysis. Analization sounds something more painful 😖

    • @asmur7945
      @asmur7945 2 роки тому +5

      @@ft9kop well, the club does make us go through a whole lot of pain. So that's not really that far from the truth.

    • @AthleticInterest
      @AthleticInterest  2 роки тому +8

      Hope you enjoyed it! 🔴

    • @LHollan
      @LHollan 2 роки тому

      Epá Tugas e a mania e os complexos em relação ao Brasil, mesmo quando algo é escrito na nossa língua, é mesmo complexo um passado de papá e mamã para filho, não há isto entre americanos e ingleses, felizmente entre nós de menos de 20 anos a maioria já não liga mais a ter de diferenciar tudo como faziam os antigos

    • @murilomuniz9962
      @murilomuniz9962 2 роки тому +3

      @@LHollan (Conta alternativa)
      Reconheço o que queres dizer, mas existem certas diferenças que fazem sentido a necessidade de atenção nesta aspecto:
      1- A Gramática, fonética e vocabulário da língua portuguesa alteram demasiado para ser-se comparado às diferenças no Inglês. Tanto os americanos como os britânicos escrvem da mesma forma, fora mínimas diferenças de vocabulário, a diferença nota-se mesmo na fonética.
      2- Este vídeo é focado em clubes portugueses, seria bacano se tivessem tido a atenção de escrever na Gramática europeia do português. Porém isso é só um detalhe que apontei.
      E para terminar, eu sou filho de brasileiros - (Mãe e Pai do Mato Grosso do Sul; Maracaju e Dourados respetivamente) - eu só prezo pela atenção ao detalhe e respeito à língua que estão a reproduzir. Ainda assim aprecio o detalhe que introduziram ao vídeo, é refrescante ver a nossa língua mãe usada para esconder detalhe interessantes.
      Tenha uma boa tarde e que Deus te abençoe.

  • @Alex-mq6qi
    @Alex-mq6qi 2 роки тому +5

    This is unfortunately a growing trend with smaller clubs. They get worse and worse slices of the money pie every single year compared to the big clubs so they need to sell their better players. Lots of smaller clubs in the big leagues suffer from this as well, they get a few good players and instead of building a squad they sell them. The worst part is, even if the club's directive wanted to keep them, they risk the players themselves wanting to "upgrade" to bigger clubs and either not playing or waiting out for their contract to end. So in a way they're forced to sell their best players, because otherwise they might lose them for nothing. Money has ruined the passion for playing for your club

  • @nicolbolas5078
    @nicolbolas5078 2 роки тому +47

    Every time I see a upload of this channel I instantly click it and watch... never disappoints 🙌

  • @jrko0
    @jrko0 2 роки тому +6

    1:42 the Olympic lyon logo is definitely the Lille logo mhmmmh

  • @Patrick61804
    @Patrick61804 2 роки тому +11

    The debt problem with Benfica is kinda insane with their transfer profits

  • @waywardshark9650
    @waywardshark9650 2 роки тому +5

    1:37 olympique Lyon got losc Lille crest.

  • @fonsecasamuel0
    @fonsecasamuel0 2 роки тому +16

    Obrigado pelo carinho com seus espectadores em cada detalhe, inclusive na carta!

  • @UserNameOculto
    @UserNameOculto 2 роки тому +7

    Players F.C.Porto sold since 2010
    Goalkeeper: José Sá (Wolves)
    Defenders: Ricardo(Leicester), Felipe (Atlético Madrid), Éder Militão (Real Madrid), Alex Telles (Manchester United)
    Midfielders: Danilo (PSG), Vitinha (PSG), Rúben Neves (Wolves)
    Attackers: James Rodríguez (Al-Rayyan SC), Falcão (Rayo Vallecano), Luis Diaz (Liverpool)
    Other players like André Silva, Jesus Corona, Oliver Torres, Jackson Martínez have also been sold in the last few years!

    • @siphomnisi3842
      @siphomnisi3842 2 роки тому

      The mf is too defensive

    • @UserNameOculto
      @UserNameOculto 2 роки тому

      @@siphomnisi3842 Well, you can take Neves and add Fábio Vieira!

  • @a.u.r.a.s
    @a.u.r.a.s Рік тому +5

    At the end you used a "false" Benfica badge. It actually is from Viseu e Benfica, a team that plays in the last division of their own district😅 they used to be linked with Benfica, not anymore ig. You can see it's not Benfica's badge because it's written SVB instead of SLB :)
    Great video though, showing why Benfica has one of if not the best academy in the world but nowadays don't usually go that far... although this season has been quite good

  • @remmidemmi496
    @remmidemmi496 Рік тому +2

    Benficas greatest trick was to make Darwin Nunez look like a decent striker worth forking cash out for.

  • @joshbrown2217
    @joshbrown2217 2 роки тому +9

    tbf with the Portuguese league staying competitive in both Europe and in the league itself, there should be greater revenue to come from tv rights. Portugal is already starting to pull ahead of the French league and if Germany isn't careful, they could start falling behind the Portuguese league as well.
    Although I would say the Portuguese league could probably do with cash injections to the smaller clubs and sorting the TV revenue a bit better if they want to capitalise on this chance.

    • @RodrigoroRex
      @RodrigoroRex 2 роки тому +4

      Yeah that maybe right but France and Germany have a lot more people that watch their leagues in their countries. Portugal will never match up the same broadcasting deals. Only la Liga and Premier League have a big international presence that results in bigger revenue. We'll never match up with our small population. It's just how it is

    • @joshbrown2217
      @joshbrown2217 2 роки тому +3

      @@RodrigoroRex Ah yeah that is true, but I do also think that should the Portuguese league get to a certain level, they could definitely start packaging international tv deals better than the French and German leagues, which may still not result in the same amount of viewership, could amount to more money, as it would be a tv deal to various different countries at more value.
      Also tbf if they can take advantage of Brazilian viewership, then those numbers could shoot up more.

    • @Knys
      @Knys 2 роки тому +1

      @@joshbrown2217 the thing is the french don't have good international deals. The one before the current broken contract was about 80m euros for the whole world excluding France when for the epl is more than 1 billion. So ridiculously low

    • @joshbrown2217
      @joshbrown2217 2 роки тому +2

      @@Knys Well yeah that's my point, the Portuguese leagues could easily take advantage of that. technically they had pulled in front of France of being a top 5 league, although unsure if that was still the case when messi joined.

  • @PrecisionCalc
    @PrecisionCalc 2 роки тому +2

    Benfica and Porto are 1st and 2nd for most profit in transfers. Sporting is 8th, Braga is 10th. Thats insane how 4 Portuguese teams are in the top 10. But they are also the 4 teams that completely dominate the league. That goes to show how much is relied on Player sales in Portugal

  • @vinodabstract_
    @vinodabstract_ 2 роки тому +8

    Love the global economics behind football, thank you Athletic Interest! Keep up the good work!

  • @darochavitor
    @darochavitor 2 роки тому +12

    Caralho!!! The amount of hard work put into this videos is simply fascinating! I've always loved each and every video made by the channel and also found every topic super interesting and well explained but the effort made at 6:10 just makes it all even better. It's pure art, really. No wonder it's the best Sports Channel on UA-cam... Uma pitada de humor sempre deixa o conteúdo ainda mais interessante e leve

    • @darochavitor
      @darochavitor 2 роки тому +2

      Caguei tudo quando botei o comentário em inglês mas eu to genuinamente feliz e entusiasmado com isso kkkk

    • @AthleticInterest
      @AthleticInterest  2 роки тому +6

      Wow, thank you!

  • @JJUmusic
    @JJUmusic 2 роки тому +4

    Love the subtle inclusion of Danny Ric. As a fan of both football and F1, an Easter egg is greatly appreciated

  • @FrttMs
    @FrttMs 2 роки тому +14

    I love a German sounding man talking about other countries and their complicated history lol
    Interesting video though. I knew Benfica was a talent factory but I had no idea how big their part actually is.

  • @Robinfox44
    @Robinfox44 2 роки тому +16

    Another amazing video by a amazing and iconic channel thank you very much for this interesting piece ❤❤❤❤.

    • @AthleticInterest
      @AthleticInterest  2 роки тому +2

      You're *always* very welcome, Olivia.

    • @Robinfox44
      @Robinfox44 2 роки тому

      @@AthleticInterest 🖤❤🖤❤❤🖤

  • @leonovais8
    @leonovais8 2 роки тому +1

    + in Portugal, we have a crazy tax concerning wages. If a player wins 2.5M€ per month the club pays the same in tax so it actually costs 5M€ to the club. That's one of the reasons they can't afford to hold on to players.

  • @__alves_
    @__alves_ 2 роки тому +3

    As a Portuguese resident I really enjoyed watching this video, thanks for making this 🇵🇹❤️

  • @laurolucas6274
    @laurolucas6274 2 роки тому +2

    "Brazil and Portugal have complicated history " this channel should be paid each video is masterpiece salute from Brasil

  • @dipanshubanote1098
    @dipanshubanote1098 2 роки тому +8

    Surprising that Dortmund wasn't on that list..!!

    • @kiranp5611
      @kiranp5611 2 роки тому +1

      Dortmund is actually a recent player of this strategy. They weren't even no. 2 or as dominant before Klopp I think. Bayer Leverkusen, Schalke, Monchengladbach were way stronger.

  • @nunomonteiro5413
    @nunomonteiro5413 2 роки тому +33

    The key is really in striking a balance between the business side and the results side. Benfica fans have made peace with signing strong names fit for boosting shirt sales like Vertonghen, Otamendi and Weigl that are great to talk about but don't really deliver consistently as they once did. Obviously the fans would love for Benfica to be a strong European contender but the strategy has been for money making and not for glory. Their former president always promised great European runs and always failed to deliver still people would elect him to new terms. Until recently management didn't really seem that interested in Europe and coach Jorge Jesus disregarded the European competitions because he knew that most people are realistic and would prefer to be domestic champions than to have a quarter or semi final loss and risk losing it all.
    Benfica's president left because he is under fiscal investigation leaving his vice president in office. He then called elections and won but really the plan seems to be the same for now, only time will tell if he has enough charisma to change deeply set mentalities within the club.
    And also, as with Porto, the "profit" is heavily diluted when you account for the sums delivered to the many agents, scouts, youth teams and others involved in the transfers. It's a very dirty game of monopoly leaving us, the fans, in despair and the bosses with heavy pockets full of money.

    • @franciscooliveira3449
      @franciscooliveira3449 2 роки тому +1

      Disseste tudo, gostava imenso de ver este panorama do nosso futebol um dia mudar

    • @ruisilva7732
      @ruisilva7732 Рік тому

      ​@@franciscooliveira3449não muda. Os clubes de futebol são empresas, e este plano de negócios funciona. Clubes portugueses estão a faturar como nunca. Não há razão lógica nenhuma para mudar. Desde que sejam campeoes nacionais alguns anos para impedir que as massas se revoltem e uns ocasionais quartos de final na champions, está tudo bem

  • @AdarshKumar-nj7rp
    @AdarshKumar-nj7rp 2 роки тому +13

    AI should do a video upon the time when clubs like Benfica, Celtic and Ajax dominated Europe. Explore on watershed dictats like the Bosman ruling.

  • @rafabest62
    @rafabest62 2 роки тому +2

    Great video 👌 just one thing wrong. Benfica and Porto don't have a low income because of small population. It's because of the clubs structure where fans vote for who they want as president and so, there is little incentive for investors to put large amounts of money in the club because no matter how much they put, they'll never have control of the club

  • @guelbergoes
    @guelbergoes 2 роки тому +5

    The fact is: I am from Brazil and I live in Portugal.

  • @pedrocavaco3376
    @pedrocavaco3376 2 роки тому +1

    at Benfica we have a terrible problem which is called mismanagement. We have mediocre players earning ludicrous wages and also sign a boatload of bad players for 4/5M€ annually, money which could be put together to buy better players or pay higher wages

  • @shubhojitghosh69
    @shubhojitghosh69 2 роки тому +2

    Wish you were my economics teacher.

  • @georgekamanga8898
    @georgekamanga8898 2 роки тому +2

    I have listened to the intro itself more than 10 times and I can not get tired of it. Excellent channel.

  • @surplusvalue5497
    @surplusvalue5497 2 роки тому +2

    Comparative advantage means that nations trapped into specializing in agriculture are condemned to perpetual poverty, as agriculture is dependent on land, a finite non-increasing natural resource. This is one way that the global north keeps the global south in perpetual debt and poverty.
    This isn't even getting into how comparative advantage assumed that labor and capital aren't mobile, which hasn't been the case for centuries.

    • @vinhbao9738
      @vinhbao9738 2 роки тому

      Its called the middle income trap.

  • @chendaddy
    @chendaddy 2 роки тому +3

    Crazy how you were able to tie Benfica and Porto topping the transfers profit charts all the way back to the Portuguese colonization of Brazil. 😂 Top work though!

  • @MinhNguyen-ui4jm
    @MinhNguyen-ui4jm 5 місяців тому

    The explanation of the connection between Portugal and Brazil is brilliant! Thanks for the high quality content and animation as always. Great work!

  • @ohmygodsteve5224
    @ohmygodsteve5224 2 роки тому +1

    shame that at 1:45 there's a mistake on olympique lyon's logo, thats the lille logo twice on that table.

  • @marcos1oo1
    @marcos1oo1 Рік тому

    1:35 "notice anything" yeah that Olympique Lyon badge looking kinda funny.

  • @Pedro_Costa19
    @Pedro_Costa19 2 роки тому +2

    Another big problem for teams like Benfica and Porto is that half of the salary from the players is taxes so is very hard to keep up with teams from nethersland or teams from the top 5
    For exemple: Benfica whanted Mario Gotze from PSV. But in the dutchland he wages 3mil+ and is totally impossible to a portuguese team get to this numbers because 3millions clean is equal to 6millions gross
    Portugal is a very hard market but even like that Benfica and Porto manage to be strong teams in Europe

  • @laszlobandi6456
    @laszlobandi6456 2 роки тому +1

    I was playing a lot of football manager since 2002. when you asked who makes the most, I was thinking of Ajax first then Portugal clubs, Sporting used to be the top but then I remembered how Benfica sells the top players, mainly strikers ever since like 2005ish.

  • @77headshoter
    @77headshoter Рік тому +1

    One thing that’s important to mention
    Benfica still belongs to the people, the fans
    While clubs like Chelsea and ManCity are owned by multimillionaire companies that get to decide everything without consulting the fans
    In doing this, Benfica retains the values from its foundation “the club of the people”, and that os way more valuable than any empty international trophy
    Clubs like Psg, United, etc.. will slowly lose their identity, they’ll all be the same in 50 years because they’re all owned by the same type of people that are competing against each other
    They’ll be just another company and they’ll lose their fan base as a result of that lack of identity
    And that’s when clubs like Benfica, Ajax, Porto… will be on top of the world
    Because they’ll be only actual clubs left

  • @yh_g4ming781
    @yh_g4ming781 2 роки тому +1

    very well explained
    original content
    and most impottantly he keeps the video sponsor to the end of the video

  • @dylanparker130
    @dylanparker130 2 роки тому +3

    As I saw another user suggest a video topic, I hope you won't mind me suggesting one too: "What is the legacy of the Heysel disaster / the European ban on English clubs?"
    I recently heard it suggested that, without access to European football with its glamour & revenue, the top English clubs (the so-called "Big five" of their day: Liverpool, Manchester United, Arsenal, Spurs, Everton) decided they needed to elevate England's top league into a "super league" of sorts by making it more exclusive (cutting the number of clubs) & giving it a much more glamorous American-style TV presentation. The "Premier League" was born, replacing what was previously simply "The English First Division". UEFA took note of its increased popularity & adapted the European Cup into the Champions League. Maybe this is just English propaganda though!
    If it's of interest, the Wikipedia page "Foundation of the Premier League" has more details!

  • @bigticket2108
    @bigticket2108 2 роки тому +2

    Two words. Jorge Mendes

  • @goodyking6732
    @goodyking6732 Рік тому +1

    4:38 They make 300% less, or 25% of the top teams.
    75% less would be 170M +75% = just shy of 300M.

  • @viktorek4539
    @viktorek4539 Рік тому +1

    They bought Enzo Fernandez for around 15M and they want now more than 120M. Such an intelligent club.

  • @bernardomedeiros8999
    @bernardomedeiros8999 2 роки тому +5

    Gostei do que escreveram em português no documento. Parabéns pelo esforço. 🇧🇷💙
    Love your videos❤
    Really like the way you edit and the content itself. Keep on the great job. Congrats.🎉

  • @arcbee007
    @arcbee007 2 роки тому +2

    At the 1:47 mark, you gave OL in France Lille Logo. Unsure if your able to correct that but just thought I would bring it your teams attention.
    Despite that, great content as always

  • @brunoalves-pg9eo
    @brunoalves-pg9eo Рік тому +2

    I think there is a major factor coming soon to football that might break this cycle.
    Teams like Benfica and Porto are forced to sell their best players because they can't generate the necessary revenue through the other 3 conventional sources (tickets, sponsers and broadcasting), mainly due to the relatively small portuguese fanbase.
    But if the inevitable superleague comes around and these clubs start playing a lot more consistently on the European stage, suddently their market becomes the whole of Europe instead of just Portugal, and all 3 of these sources will skyrocket.
    It will depend on how the tournment will be setup, but it is inevitable that a superleague will come in the next few years, and it might be the trigger that these teams need to break the cycle.

  • @quattrobajeena8623
    @quattrobajeena8623 2 роки тому +6

    Thank you for making a comprehensive explanation of the transfer market. My only critique is that Lyon and Lille have the same logo in 1:38.

  • @franciscod.s7799
    @franciscod.s7799 2 роки тому +2

    Oh yes my Benfica & still the most it can do is reach the quarter finals in the UCL!
    Basically Benfica Porto Sporting and the portuguese league in general is like we usually say in Portugal the football school of Europe - we get young promising players still developing their game and then when they reach the desired point we sell them for a big profit so we can bring more players and train them and sell them for a lot more and the cicle continues. Still UCL finals still continues to be a forbidden fruit although conquered but long time ago.

  • @orapoix6877
    @orapoix6877 Рік тому +3

    Eu aprecio bastante o esforço :) Obrigado, Athletic Interest e parabéns pelo vídeo incrível

  • @VaticanusMF
    @VaticanusMF 2 роки тому +3

    Benfica (and others like ajax and porto) will probably continue like this for several years because the other clubs mainly in England have several investors for example abromvich(i know he's already sold the chealsea is just an example)
    Speaking of investors, Red bull has already thought about buying a club in Portugal, Desportivo Aves
    I just hope that in the future we can see other clubs from other countries being UCL champions e.g. Benfica, Ajax and Red Bull Salzburg

  • @shreeshashastry4713
    @shreeshashastry4713 2 роки тому +6

    Best channel on the transfer market in tranfer window😍

    • @AthleticInterest
      @AthleticInterest  2 роки тому +1

      Got to get everyone signed up to our channel 😉

  • @umutti11
    @umutti11 2 роки тому +1

    Best football/sports/sport business/animation/data/analysis/humor related content in UA-cam. Thank you!

  • @kieranleekentish9704
    @kieranleekentish9704 2 роки тому +2

    What a bloody good video. Ahead of the game

  • @SuperCapuka
    @SuperCapuka 2 роки тому +2

    Benfica has to pay their debt in order to be able to keep players for longer and pay a better wage. That was my main beef with Luis Felipe Vieira (former president of the club), he was showing profits but he never tackeld the club's debt seriously. Benfica needs to run on profit and no debt in order to compete in Europe, untill then it will have to always sell players in order to pay their debts.

  • @goncaloen5100
    @goncaloen5100 2 роки тому +1

    Ederson was in Benfica youth academy but then got released

  • @Photolic
    @Photolic 2 роки тому +1

    Some things money can’t buy, like passionate fans. That’s the best asset of the club. 🦅👹

  • @afonsodomingues2624
    @afonsodomingues2624 2 роки тому +3

    Small suggestion, maybe next time try to focus more on the 3 big clubs in Portugal instead of only talking about Benfica. Yes, they are the ones to sell their players for the highest price, but this trend of selling academy players actually started in Sporting and is practised by all three clubs. Sporting and Porto also do this but usually players leave the league for a much smaller price. Examples of this are Luis Diaz or Bruno Fernandes, both captains, won the best player of the league award, but João Felix was sold for much more money despite not having a huge influence on the team. Porto and Sporting sell might even sell more players in terms of quantity, but in terms of price I have to give it to Benfica (Sporting supporter btw).

  • @muhammedjafinp7720
    @muhammedjafinp7720 2 роки тому +2

    After CR7 underwear 4:56 😂😂

  • @jarodreddig63
    @jarodreddig63 2 роки тому +1

    An absolutely fascinating and wonderfully made video. This gives me a lot to think about. Thanks.

  • @ABRARKHAN-wp4xy
    @ABRARKHAN-wp4xy 2 роки тому +1

    The thing is that 30 no. PSG jersey is everything that you explained about money making...

  • @kyozaki9838
    @kyozaki9838 2 роки тому +2

    Another fantastic video! This is fast becoming my favourite UA-cam channel. Beautiful visuals and good informaton. I've literally been checking daily for a new video to drop :)
    Which software do you use to make your videos? I remember seeing a link to a skill share course you studied to learn how to make videos, but now I can't find it 😢

  • @account-yi2cn
    @account-yi2cn 2 роки тому +4

    Thank you Jorge Mendes

  • @yongjiewong764
    @yongjiewong764 2 роки тому +1

    lovely history, econs and finance video focused on football!

  • @josearmandorosales982
    @josearmandorosales982 5 місяців тому

    Thanks a lot to you for keep bringing us these amazing videos. This channel is such a paradise for those who love Football

  • @milesbissay
    @milesbissay 2 роки тому +1

    This channel is so underrated.

  • @CP4Z167
    @CP4Z167 Рік тому

    Football structure so different compared to other major sports with a hard salary cap. Like it or not, it sucks for some small budget teams because they literally have zero chance to land top tier talent in their prime and win major championships trophies

  • @zeberzeleniev
    @zeberzeleniev 2 роки тому +1

    And people still say the Portuguese League is crap. Yes, it's not a particularly exciting one, but Portuguese clubs are extremely resourceful (just look at 01:38, there's 4 Portuguese clubs in the top 10.)
    It's true these clubs are highly leveraged, but again, there's no billionaire sheiks behind them.

  • @z3kr0v74
    @z3kr0v74 2 роки тому +1

    1:45 Lyon is not Lille XD

  • @ble499
    @ble499 2 роки тому +7

    Good video but you forgot to mention that benfica was 600m in debt and isn't anymore, that could be a game changer in the future.

    • @kiranp5611
      @kiranp5611 2 роки тому +2

      Wow how did they land in that much debt a new stadium?

    • @snayperkill6218
      @snayperkill6218 2 роки тому

      @Pedro please elaborate

    • @RodrigoroRex
      @RodrigoroRex 2 роки тому

      @@kiranp5611 Nope just bad management

  • @joaopedroferreira1724
    @joaopedroferreira1724 Рік тому +1

    I think Argentinian players are more profitbale for Benfica than Brazilians tho. Yes theres more brasilians in Portugal but Benfica has a lot of sucess with Argentina players like Di Maria, Gaitan, Garay, Salvio, Enzo Peres , Saviola and now Enzo Fernandez

  • @marlonshinoda3034
    @marlonshinoda3034 2 роки тому +6

    As a FC Porto fan I hated enjoying this video 😂

    • @FSousA7X
      @FSousA7X 2 роки тому +1

      SportingCP here with the same problem ahahah

    • @para-trooperwr1040
      @para-trooperwr1040 Рік тому

      Benfica fan with totally opposite comment 😅

  • @ifty873
    @ifty873 2 роки тому +2

    Best sports content on youtube

  • @sneakytacos773
    @sneakytacos773 Рік тому +1

    People really need to respect the Portuguese league. These clubs could hold onto the talent they develop and become European champions, but they have a strategy that profits them and gives us some of the best players we see playing today!

  • @aarond9563
    @aarond9563 2 роки тому +1

    I feel like this is also the case for Ajax and Dortmund as well, but at a slightly different scale and different circumstances.

    • @LHollan
      @LHollan 2 роки тому

      Mas Porto as well

  • @selmanyassin
    @selmanyassin 2 роки тому +3

    They can take a billion dollar loan to be paid in 15 years so, numbers obv may not be right but focus on the idea 😂

  • @brahimzzkinguin1540
    @brahimzzkinguin1540 2 роки тому +1

    benfica , Dortmund , Ajax Are the goats of selling talents

  • @RicardotomcatPinheiro
    @RicardotomcatPinheiro 2 роки тому +2

    Don't forget how important Jorge Mendes is on the Portuguese equation, and how much he is "stealing" from that profit.

  • @andrephx90
    @andrephx90 2 роки тому +1

    Appreciated the effort! 06:10

  • @shizzle303
    @shizzle303 2 роки тому +2

    It's crazy to think the only people who really won the Neymar to psg deal is Liverpool 🤣, it's also impressive to think Liverpool really built a great consistent team from signing 99% of their players from midtable and relegated teams, that is really impressive, and the two players they bought for alot of money still turned out great. Liverpool run their club really well 👏

  • @jejits
    @jejits 2 роки тому +1

    Fact is Barcelona are in a deeply dangerous financial situation, they are borrowing future earnings to fund these deals, which means they are heavily reliant on winning la liga AND the champions league probably for the next 2 or 3 years straight in order to actually pay for these transfers. Any less than that will bring them into further financial debt and honestly I can see Barcelona no longer being a football club in the next 8 - 10 years. Please can you make a video what will happen with Barcelona FC?

  • @jvenda17
    @jvenda17 2 роки тому +1

    Thats my club! Its a long game that will eventually work in their advantage. Slowly starting to have former well trained academy players throughout the league, raising the level of the league. Centralized TV rights will benefit all clubs in the league in a few years making them all more competitive.A Portuguese club will certainly win a European Trophy in the next 5 years

    • @sousa447
      @sousa447 2 роки тому

      The 3 big clubs have been doing that for a long time already.
      Centralized tv rights is a very complex topic, let’s wait and see what happens.

  • @ivancho89
    @ivancho89 2 роки тому +1

    Great analysis!