Thanks for interesting short review. I don't think I would consider this as a solution for replacement for any serious live application but looks like absolutely brilliant for practicing, easy home type production anywhere or small club events. I wish you showed more examples of sounds especially other than metal applications but probably you have left the pleasure to others ;)
Really cool! I think it’s also an good solution for people that are new with modelling or want a guitar that can do little of everything. It’s like an improved Variax with better looks as well.
This is a quarter of the cost of the Boss EURUS GS-1 guitar and the expression pedal that goes with the Boss unit is also almost 4x the switching unit of the GTRS. Nice.
cool review! I ordered it in July, really curious to see how good it will be! I'm normally old school but I think it's worth trying this new modern solutions! Ciao :)
yes, but the guitar would probably need to be routed to be able to fit it anyways and wires soldered as well. I mean at best if it was sold separately and you installed it in any guitar and you paid someone to do the work it might still cost you upwards of $200 tops. Please also remember the current inflated status of our economy, labor is not as cheap as it use to be and the quality of the labor is also worse than ever. 1 year ago maybe $100 to install such a feature.
@@jamesblair2000 Fair points, but these are absolutely not a problem. I'd much rather spend the money and have this feature in a guitar that fits my needs when it comes to specs and look. Being only limited to this guitar doesn't help. As such, I see no issue in having the option to buy the kit and installing it myself, or, paying someone for the additional labour to handle the installation.
Great review . Only worry is the length of battery life and if can you swap out batteries mid gig , if you can’t , why not . Batteries eventually die so always worried about inbuilt obsolescence ... but , if all works , wow , what a great guitar
Hi, great review man. Can't decide between this model and the 800 with rosewood fretboard. It would be useful to know if roasted one with satin finish even on fretboard gets sticky after some time of use. While I guess rosewood fretboard is not finished, but who knows
Hey Keynan, thanks for the GTRS demo....I am considering buying one...but, I am consernced about one thing; how would I do swells that have trailing effects?
Great review! Although, don´t know about you guys, I´m not sure if these new portable-digital modeling systems are necessarily better, or more reliable, or more efficient than a traditional setup (guitar/bass + cables + pedalboard + amp, that is), are they? Coz, first of all, it seems that you need to have at least a good smartphone to make it work, right? So that´s some good extra $$ right off the bat if you get this guitar, right? And maybe a phone that´s even more expensive than the guitar alone. Furthermore, even if you already have a smartphone, the idea of buying a guitar that in-and-off-itself needs one to work a new functionality, is a bit off-putting, coz otherwise what would be the point? In such case, you would be better off just getting a regular guitar, if you ask me. On top of that, you would need to rely on the bluetooth signal not crashing (which is not that rare), and hopefully zero latency from the interfase, as well, am I wrong? Add to this, the special interfase gear for guitar-to-cellphone, etc., making all the setup progressively more fragile in the end. Bottomline is, imho, that there are some impractical hidden costs just by buying this a guitar (the smartphone, or a computer to use the app, interfases, the digital-signal fragility, and maybe even studio-monitors, coz emulated signals don´t sound good in regular guitar amps, as far as I can tell). Ultimately, even though I don´t think I would use it live, I do see awesome home-studio applications and practicality. My humble two cents :)
Keyan What songs did you play at 08:17 and 12:10 ? They sound familiar but I can't place them..it's already driving me crazy. Super clean playing here!!
Looking at buying this guitar some time this month, where do you down load the app? Had a look on the play app store and it's in Chinese...no good for me 😁
After watching your (excellent) review, I accidentally hit the "Buy" button on Thomann's site with a pink S800 in the basket :-D Hope it lives up to expectations ! What do you reckon on it 6 months later Keyan ?
@@TempleGuitars nothing broke. Im just saying electronics doesn't last forever. Give it like 15-20 years, you'll definitely need to replace them one day or maybe earlier
Might of missed it or misunderstood but just to clarify, is there is an option to just run it as a dry signal so I can use it on other VST's like Neural DSP, Amplitude?
That guitar is really cool with the app! I have respect for anyone trying to start a guitar manufacturing company. But to come to the market with another strat clone...I really wish them luck, but I'd never invest in them. Awesome playing btw...you jam!
it looks super cool I have to admit it. has really cool features, but I don't think it's the future of guitars. in a future (let's say 30 years) if the app is not available anymore, or there's no support this guitar turns into a standard guitar instead of an intelligent guitar
The S801 was a prototype they sent to social media people for promotion. I got the S800 (rosewood fingerboard being the only difference) through the indiegogo with the pedal for £435 I think that was with a %25 discount so I’m guessing the target shelf price is £600.
Worth pointing out that we sadly can't get the model you've demoed, they're selling the 800 not the 801. Different spec available to youtubers Vs public
That sounds better than I expected, however I think I'd rather have an entry level Ibanez and, let's say a L6 Pod Go for kinda the same amount of money.
I love Ibanez, but I'm willing to bet this guitar plays better than an entry level Ibanez. The only thing the Ibanez would have over this guitar imo is 24 frets.
@@DJENTISNTNOTAGENRE I said Ibanez as I could have said Jackson or ESP. I have to agree that this GTRS seems to compete to the 300 to 400 € range of instruments in term of playbility (wich would bring the all budget far above the ~600$ if you add a decent modeller). Nevertheless, my point that whole form factor is still gimmicky, for me at least.
I guess I don't get it. I don't say so to troll and frustrate people. Other than as a fun practice tool, I guess I don't really see the utility of having all this on the guitar. It seems like more of a 'look what it can do' piece of equipment rather than solving problems guitar players have in live or studio situations. Open to changing my mind should anyone feel the need to try.
Why wouldn't you want a fully capable rig in a guitar? Imagine if you were flying to a gig or if you just didn't want to carry anything but a guitar case. That is possible here. It's stunning. I'm frankly shocked that people are so dismissive of the utility here.
@@DKinMN I would never use this as a live rig. If I needed a fly rig, I would use something with a proven track record and can be found at any music shop if something goes wrong. Something like an HX Stomp or whatnot. My home is littered with gimmicky gear like this. How are you going to switch sounds live? You need a foot control based switching system. Why not have your sound coming from gear you're already using that won't break a string in the middle of set? That way, you just plug any of the other guitars you already own in and nothing changes.
@@DKinMN that's fine but it doesn't really address my point. These are just tools after all. At this point in my life with music, I have a pretty good idea of what my needs are as well as the ability to fairly reliably predict what innovations are likely to take off. I just don't think this will. There are enough guitar players out there that this will likely sell to those who don't mind taking risks on gimmicky (this is not intended as a pejorative but I don't know what else to call it) concepts. I don't think this will appeal to pros who are flying around the world playing music. I'd bet quite a lot of money on that...though I've been surprised before. Until then, I have a bunch of guitars and a Kemper powered rack as my live/studio rig and don't think I or folks like me are looking to change to something like this.
@@PackinForSuperbowl I don't care about you in particular. People said the same thing about Pods way back when. Now, this is a new thing. A Pod inside the guitar. And a lot of people who do fly gigs will be all over this. If not this first generation, the next one. Not sure why you think your use case is so important. You're old and stuck in your ways.
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That's what I said!
hahaha
"I don't wanna mess with anything too much" - Keyan, king of messing with things
I should’ve messed with it
This is pretty wicked.
Dug the non DMCA version of "My Curse" too lol
I don't think he changed it for copyright reasons though haha
Coincidentally, BOSS also just announced their new guitar.
Yes. "Coincidentally". :)
This is a great idea! It will not replace anything, but its a great addition to any collection. You know us gear heads, we have to have it all!
Thanks for interesting short review. I don't think I would consider this as a solution for replacement for any serious live application but looks like absolutely brilliant for practicing, easy home type production anywhere or small club events. I wish you showed more examples of sounds especially other than metal applications but probably you have left the pleasure to others ;)
Even if the dsp isn’t perfect, (I mean it sounds great so far.) just the fact you can carry a guitar only with all fx built in is awesome.
Would love to hear how it sounds running into a clean tube amp. You're a killer player good Sir!!
That pickup feature is insane!!
I know right? So cool
Really cool! I think it’s also an good solution for people that are new with modelling or want a guitar that can do little of everything. It’s like an improved Variax with better looks as well.
Whelp we are now in the future! This is sick man!
We definitely are!
This is a quarter of the cost of the Boss EURUS GS-1 guitar and the expression pedal that goes with the Boss unit is also almost 4x the switching unit of the GTRS.
Nice.
Cheeky little My Curse bits in there. Sounds killer man
I was thinking the same thing
dude, you should really get a place in Monuments.
aggressive. brutal. beautiful riff, dude.
LINE 6 VARIAX NEEDS THIS. NOW.
man i think that first riff is one of your best yet!!!! so good
Brilliant! Loving this. Will be getting it when saved up.for it. There's a Blue Tooth 3 or 4-way footewitch you didn't mention. Very nice 👍👍
That riff a 7:40 was sick, is it anything in particular?
cool review! I ordered it in July, really curious to see how good it will be! I'm normally old school but I think it's worth trying this new modern solutions! Ciao :)
Okay keyan, this is the video that makes me subscribe..
Let's not forget that Line 6 did the pickup emulation trick with their Variax line of guitars
This is actually pretty cool. Not a bad price for entry, either. I like the Pink paint and roasted maple. Good luck GTRS.
Audio technology innovation is at a new high, damn!
For sure man
This guitar is awesome! Thank you for the review :).
It would be great if this hardware could be sold separately for people to install into any guitar of their choice.
yes, but the guitar would probably need to be routed to be able to fit it anyways and wires soldered as well. I mean at best if it was sold separately and you installed it in any guitar and you paid someone to do the work it might still cost you upwards of $200 tops. Please also remember the current inflated status of our economy, labor is not as cheap as it use to be and the quality of the labor is also worse than ever. 1 year ago maybe $100 to install such a feature.
@@jamesblair2000 Fair points, but these are absolutely not a problem. I'd much rather spend the money and have this feature in a guitar that fits my needs when it comes to specs and look. Being only limited to this guitar doesn't help. As such, I see no issue in having the option to buy the kit and installing it myself, or, paying someone for the additional labour to handle the installation.
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Great review . Only worry is the length of battery life and if can you swap out batteries mid gig , if you can’t , why not . Batteries eventually die so always worried about inbuilt obsolescence ... but , if all works , wow , what a great guitar
whats the riff on 8:00 ??? its so freaking cool
Man if they bring out a 7 String variant, i'll be all over that
In theory, they could sell the hardware and allow people to install this on any type of guitar.
@@ordohereticus3427 yes
Great review! In what tone is tuned ?
Nice one mate. 🤘🏻
sick playing!!! what is that riff at 7:42?
Does it have midi capabilities?
Got excited but it looks like it's not available for purchase in Australia. Might be an excuse to fly to Singapore!
Genius creation. Wow!
Hi, great review man. Can't decide between this model and the 800 with rosewood fretboard. It would be useful to know if roasted one with satin finish even on fretboard gets sticky after some time of use. While I guess rosewood fretboard is not finished, but who knows
Hey Keynan, thanks for the GTRS demo....I am considering buying one...but, I am consernced about one thing; how would I do swells that have trailing effects?
Whats the name of that riff at 7:40 its heavenly
WHAT THE ?!?! In some years all gigs are gonna be done just with a guit while gear and preset will be saved at home..
did you set up the bridge intonation before recording the video?
Really cool idea.
Great review! Although, don´t know about you guys, I´m not sure if these new portable-digital modeling systems are necessarily better, or more reliable, or more efficient than a traditional setup (guitar/bass + cables + pedalboard + amp, that is), are they? Coz, first of all, it seems that you need to have at least a good smartphone to make it work, right? So that´s some good extra $$ right off the bat if you get this guitar, right? And maybe a phone that´s even more expensive than the guitar alone. Furthermore, even if you already have a smartphone, the idea of buying a guitar that in-and-off-itself needs one to work a new functionality, is a bit off-putting, coz otherwise what would be the point? In such case, you would be better off just getting a regular guitar, if you ask me. On top of that, you would need to rely on the bluetooth signal not crashing (which is not that rare), and hopefully zero latency from the interfase, as well, am I wrong? Add to this, the special interfase gear for guitar-to-cellphone, etc., making all the setup progressively more fragile in the end. Bottomline is, imho, that there are some impractical hidden costs just by buying this a guitar (the smartphone, or a computer to use the app, interfases, the digital-signal fragility, and maybe even studio-monitors, coz emulated signals don´t sound good in regular guitar amps, as far as I can tell). Ultimately, even though I don´t think I would use it live, I do see awesome home-studio applications and practicality. My humble two cents :)
great video bud!
i noticed you said you tuned the guitar to C#, what strings do you use with this tune?
Keyan What songs did you play at 08:17 and 12:10 ? They sound familiar but I can't place them..it's already driving me crazy. Super clean playing here!!
8:17 is My Curse by KSE
Dude that was a killer riff was awesome
I was hoping it can produce that crystalline clean vintage strat in between pickup tones, I didn't hear it...
I gotta have one those !
Cool, I hope it's dependable. Otherwise switching guitars to continue gig ?
Looking at buying this guitar some time this month, where do you down load the app? Had a look on the play app store and it's in Chinese...no good for me 😁
great! what tuning you use?
Does it have a built in amp or do you need headphones or a standard wired amp hooked up to it
HOw bout into an amp for practical Live use.? and retuning different tunings? and acoustic sound?
After watching your (excellent) review, I accidentally hit the "Buy" button on Thomann's site with a pink S800 in the basket :-D Hope it lives up to expectations ! What do you reckon on it 6 months later Keyan ?
What's the difference between the 800 and the 801?
Can you record the guitar audio and video using the same phone?
I didn't see the 801 on sale, only the 800 with the rosewood neck. How come?
Where do you buy them how much ?
What was that songs name at 11:10 it sounds so familiar
something by chon or something idk
oh wait i remembered it its Heart by Plini
this is super fun!!!!
the website says powered by mooer audio
Does this do different Tuning?
why don't i see the roasted maple fretboard as an option?
It would be cool if somehow they could make the presets interchangeable through the mooer GE series products
Hello, please tell me how in this guitar in the application from the cloud (downloads) to "get" already what was recorded on Looper?
What is that footswitch panel looking thing you have just above your phone?
its a pretty cool gimmick to use at home but i doubt it'll catch on with live playing
After some experience with Sire Bass, proprietary parts are the main cons if it ever broke down in future.
John, what broke on your bass? I just bought a V7, and now I’m nervous!
@@TempleGuitars nothing broke. Im just saying electronics doesn't last forever. Give it like 15-20 years, you'll definitely need to replace them one day or maybe earlier
Heya I got mine about a week ago, does anyone have any idea how to insert the whammy bar?
If we could just see as much awesome music made as we do new gear. Maybe in time we will . New gear is on its way out anyway .
Can u load IRs?
Can the pitch shifter on this work like the digitech drop if the wet signal is set to 100%?
tutto molto bello ma come suona senza il suo programma?
ho visto molti video ma nessuno la suona con app spenta!!
What does this guitar weigh?
Might of missed it or misunderstood but just to clarify, is there is an option to just run it as a dry signal so I can use it on other VST's like Neural DSP, Amplitude?
Yes, just simply turn the super knob off!
so cool
Hmm 🤔 not bad at all ! But what about producing other sound effects?? For e.g like the Roland GR 55 😨😕😰🤦🏻♂️
with the guitarists i know, i can assure you, the super knob mode is superfluous.
That guitar is really cool with the app! I have respect for anyone trying to start a guitar manufacturing company. But to come to the market with another strat clone...I really wish them luck, but I'd never invest in them. Awesome playing btw...you jam!
Spicy finger lord 🌶
Mateus Asato made us all have a kink for pink g's didnt he xd
Review valeton gp 100 bro
Freakin tight!
"play guitar to play guitar and not do it for anything else" preachhhh
it looks super cool I have to admit it. has really cool features, but I don't think it's the future of guitars. in a future (let's say 30 years) if the app is not available anymore, or there's no support this guitar turns into a standard guitar instead of an intelligent guitar
No pedals and amps you say?
Garageband: Hold my beer
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So what is the RRP of this GTRS S801 guitar 🎸 ?? 😕☹️😰🤦🏻♂️
The S801 was a prototype they sent to social media people for promotion. I got the S800 (rosewood fingerboard being the only difference) through the indiegogo with the pedal for £435 I think that was with a %25 discount so I’m guessing the target shelf price is £600.
Jackson guitars with Neural dsp
What the? Is this plugged into a amp? I don’t understand lol? The future is here if so guitar sounds great so you can get any tone you want?
Beware - the shipping on the guitar costs as much as the guitar.
How much did you pay? And where do you live?
Worth pointing out that we sadly can't get the model you've demoed, they're selling the 800 not the 801. Different spec available to youtubers Vs public
Who is "we"?
False. If you pledge early and answer a survey, you can change your order to an 801.
@@DKinMN Can you confirm this? I just backed, and have yet to receive any such survey.
people are calling this gimmicky. usually i’d agree, but i do see use for this, and i trust Keyan when he says it’s sick
Gimmick
@@jakemf1 meh
Honestly sounds kinda trash but for practice, especially for on the go, it’s the perfect most well priced guitar for that need.
Definitely a guitar for beginners!!!!
When they don't list "Country" in ANY of the presets......I'm outta here.
no amount of computery gizmos is gonna turn that strat into a pedal steel.
I decided not to buy this guitar and then bummm, this video...
How can a guitar that has been around since the seventies " the future of guitar" ? Old idea with several companies making them for over 40 years ?
That sounds better than I expected, however I think I'd rather have an entry level Ibanez and, let's say a L6 Pod Go for kinda the same amount of money.
Agree, gimmicky and I doubt this catches on.
I love Ibanez, but I'm willing to bet this guitar plays better than an entry level Ibanez. The only thing the Ibanez would have over this guitar imo is 24 frets.
@@DJENTISNTNOTAGENRE I said Ibanez as I could have said Jackson or ESP. I have to agree that this GTRS seems to compete to the 300 to 400 € range of instruments in term of playbility (wich would bring the all budget far above the ~600$ if you add a decent modeller). Nevertheless, my point that whole form factor is still gimmicky, for me at least.
In the thumbnail it first looked like the helocitty guitar😂
I guess I don't get it. I don't say so to troll and frustrate people. Other than as a fun practice tool, I guess I don't really see the utility of having all this on the guitar. It seems like more of a 'look what it can do' piece of equipment rather than solving problems guitar players have in live or studio situations. Open to changing my mind should anyone feel the need to try.
Why wouldn't you want a fully capable rig in a guitar? Imagine if you were flying to a gig or if you just didn't want to carry anything but a guitar case. That is possible here. It's stunning. I'm frankly shocked that people are so dismissive of the utility here.
@@DKinMN I would never use this as a live rig. If I needed a fly rig, I would use something with a proven track record and can be found at any music shop if something goes wrong. Something like an HX Stomp or whatnot.
My home is littered with gimmicky gear like this. How are you going to switch sounds live? You need a foot control based switching system. Why not have your sound coming from gear you're already using that won't break a string in the middle of set? That way, you just plug any of the other guitars you already own in and nothing changes.
@@PackinForSuperbowl that's nice. Everything is new at some point. This is not a new company. It's a GE series processor in a guitar.
@@DKinMN that's fine but it doesn't really address my point. These are just tools after all. At this point in my life with music, I have a pretty good idea of what my needs are as well as the ability to fairly reliably predict what innovations are likely to take off. I just don't think this will. There are enough guitar players out there that this will likely sell to those who don't mind taking risks on gimmicky (this is not intended as a pejorative but I don't know what else to call it) concepts. I don't think this will appeal to pros who are flying around the world playing music. I'd bet quite a lot of money on that...though I've been surprised before. Until then, I have a bunch of guitars and a Kemper powered rack as my live/studio rig and don't think I or folks like me are looking to change to something like this.
@@PackinForSuperbowl I don't care about you in particular. People said the same thing about Pods way back when. Now, this is a new thing. A Pod inside the guitar. And a lot of people who do fly gigs will be all over this. If not this first generation, the next one. Not sure why you think your use case is so important. You're old and stuck in your ways.
Idk I view this as a massive gimmick but that is just me.