This was not justified. That cop made a huge mistake and murdered that man. I don’t think he went there to murder him, but he did the exact wrong thing and he should be held accountable.
It's America Dogg, hell many of us could be taken to court and found guilty of breathing and if the police get to you first they are authorized and sanctioned to put a stop to it. Deputy may have won the Officer of the Decade Award for this. At least he will make Honorable Mention. But he will get off after this quiets down a bit. Traitor Tatum will do all he can to see to it. One day they will turn on Tatem and he will come limping back to the hood, all scared and beaten to a pulp looking for his peeps but they will be either at a cemetery or serving 100-plus years in a maximum prison for a license plate light out. We are way too forgiving.
@@dwainmcwilliams2043what does him being a young airman have to do with anything? Was he wearing his air force uniform and did the deputy know he was in the Air Force?
You can try to justify this all day, but a professional with a gun shot dead a man who was in his own home holding his own gun in a non threatening manner opening his own door as demanded by the government agent who was acting on the word of a dubious person who said she wasn't even sure where it came from. The professional government agent made mistakes that killed a man. He needs to be held accountable for his mistakes. A man is dead because of him. Took a 3rd party's word about a past disturbance. Took her word which apartment it was. Didn't appear to get the name of the resient and look at his history prior to knocking on the door. Didn't hear a disturbance. Shot a guy just because he was holding a gun in his own home. This Tatum guy has the boot so far down his throat that it has cut the oxygen off to his brain.
You know what made it a threat? The nature of the call, history of domestic incidents at his residence. What person in their right mind who has had cops called to his place before for similar incidents answer the door with a gun? Him being a serviceman, knowing it can take a split second for an enemy to turn deadly is very likely. This guy was not in the right state of mind.
What crime did Fortson commit? When did Fortson threaten the officer? Is it against the law to answer the door of your own place of residence with a gun? How do you know what is happening behind the door? Probably this. Probably that. Probably is an assumption. The other scenarios have nothing to do with Fortson. Right? How is having a gun unreasonable in a land where gun ownership is legal? We don't know why Fortson had a gun because he's no longer here to offer an explanation.
@@alwaysmiserable He probably will get one but he shouldn't. But we know at least he will get the honorable mention after a few months when our 15-minute of remembrance society moves on to a more outrageous event, that is overdue. Remember Tamir Rice, the kid with the toy gun.
@@dwighthowse6818 have you ever been to a cop training spot ? i have and from NYC that is why it makes no sense there was 2 cops called to help a lady get in her home and 1 raped her the other stood guard sick the whole system is built to rob and rape us !
@@dwighthowse6818because everything is supposed to be fact based,Tatum is creating a narrative like he don’t ever see what’s going on that’s factually based and back by case law. Meaning he goes off of feelings.
That cop stood at that door for a couple of second listening. To see if he heard any arguing between the couple. Which he did not. Please make this make sense. Where did self defense come in at. That young man never pointed his gun at the officer. Matter of fact the young man had his hand up like wait, wait don't shoot. That cop seen the gun in his hand, when Roger open the door. Instead of the telling Roger to put the gun down. He told him to step back than just started shooting. Was that to make it look like self defense. Well he had a gun. Was this planned by the people that called the police. It happens all the time. I'm so sick of people calling cops on innocent people for no reason. So where is the woman and man that was fighting. Because Roger didn't have a woman in his home?
When he knocked the first time he didn't announce himself, that's what made him get his gun and then when he decided to announce himself he may feel he is gonna be setup for a trick, so he kept his gun on him, but he was also trained to keep his gun pointed on the floor just in case if it was a real cop, as you see he never pointed the gun at the cop, he raised his hand as a plea to a cop that he's not a threat and the cop shot him up before he can even plea, that's why the cop is in the wrong
@@LegendRonk ..... would you rather he raised his gun instead or what? Change the laws if you're so pressed on just the presence of a gun. Make them illegal so that cops don't have to be scared of a fucking acorn.
@@yeety6415 given the totality of the circumstances, a reasonable cop believed his life was in danger when called to a domestic dispute call the suspect answered the door with a gun. Roll the dice whether the guy is in the right state of mind after seconds before being in a heated argument with his ole lady for what has been numerous times. I would rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6, you decide.
So why didn’t he talk to the officer through the door and have him show Is through peep hole? If officer wouldn’t do that, he could call the police to find out if they have an officer at his home.
The first 2 times when the officer knocked and didn't announce himself, he became suspicious, and when the 3rd time that he knocked and decided to announce himself, now he feels like he's being pranked by a home invader, so that's a good reason for him to have the gun, and the purpose of him putting his hand up was to convince the officer that he wasn't no threat to him, especially with his gun pointed to the floor and no finger around the trigger, that's what US airman are trained to do when they feel like they are about to encounter someone who could be a threat but not sure, so yes the officer is still at fault for shooting without letting him explain why he had the gun on him
Exactly. I still remember the live stream where he challenged all of his subscribers to leave him because he was going to die on that hill defending Uvalde, and he was "BRANDON TATUM, gonna be good no matter what!" You think he would've learned some modesty with all his church talk. Haven't watched him since.
And if you had paid any attention you would have learned that all of the children were dead anyway and the delay, although stupid and against what I was taught, did not make any difference.
@williammoreland1870 but the officers could not have known that at the time. You're making a hindsight argument. If I remember correctly, one of the students was in an adjoining classroom on the phone with 911 while the officers were in the hallway.
@williammoreland1870 Yes, I read what you wrote. But your analysis is that it didn't matter what the action of the officers was because the children were already decreased. My argument to you is that the officers on scene, at that time, did not have any information that no one was alive. For all they knew, everyone of those children could still be alive. The issue is that they didn't act to save those children but rather cowarded to save themselves.
Supreme Court ruled that police "Do Not" have a constitutional duty to protect a person from harm, even woman who have obtained a court-issued protective order. Castle Rock v. Gonzales
This can be a precursor to home invasion/burglary. There is no reason a man should be killed for simply possessing a firearm in his home because this LEO is to fragile and scared to do their job. Granted with experience comes the wisdom to call 911 if someone is banging on your door yelling LEO to confirm.
The foolishness of being young. It appears the young man made a foolish mistake. The young man appears to be a very honorable and intelligent young man who made a tragic mistake.
If he believed they weren’t police, he should have had the officer show his badge through the peep hole and talked to him through the door, then. He didn’t. He chose to open the door with a gun. Why?
They eventually will get him. How many people gave limb, life, and liberty for him to get that prestigious job. Rather than saying thank you to his forbearers this is how he repays them. There will always be cowards and turncoats among our ranks. Judas sold out Christ for 20 pieces of silver. Old Tatum here, makes way more than that.
That's the opposite of ID'ing yourself as a cop. Literally anyone can claim they're a cop for home invasion. Common fucking sense, especially if you live in a shady ass neighborhood. You don't stand on the side of the door for a goddamn domestic dispute either.
When he said back up it was most lilley before he saw the gun, he was saying back up away from the door because I don't know if you will attack me, once he saw the gun in his hand he shot, that changed the whole situation, the back up command was before the gun was seen
@@norrisdrawdy7437 He said "step out" and didnt even give the command to drop the weapon until after he shot him and gun was no longer in his hand. This is f-ng Florida. EVERYONE IS ARMED! WTF???
Cop moved to the side so he wouldn't get SHOT, fool!! - Tell me you don't know how to make it difficult for someone behind a door to shoot you... without telling me you don't know how to make it difficult.
The first time he knocked, he moved completely out of sight of the peephole. If he was that worried, he should have called for backup. He didn't hear any of what was said to him, and if this was so called a reoccurring problem, it would have been on file.
@@CoffeeShopChatter I swear... you people don't know 💩 about self-defense, yet y'all are out here running around loose in cyber space tryina tell those who DO know self-defense, what WE should do. Please take a whole seat somewhere and wait for the knock. "Natural Selection" should take care of you.
@@CoffeeShopChatteryou’re trained not to stand in front of a doorway.. someone and throw rounds through the door or open the door and immediately start firing. Which is why you announce your office when you knock so the person knows who’s at the door. Make sense?
You identify yourself first, then step aside. You don't knock someone door, and don't speak. So he may have not taken him serious when knock the second time. So he picked up his weapon, which he got alright to . Secondly this officer got off on the 3rd floor, but was told to get off on the 4th floor. Ben crump was right on that one. It was the wrong door
Being a former police officer, you gotta remember when he's defending cops, good or bad, he's coming at it from the point of view of knowing what kind of (shitty) training the cops get, as well as policies depts. have for various circumstances.
It takes less than a second to lose your life in a situation like this. So your saying what for the person to point the gun then shoot? Takes a millisecond of hesitation to die in a situation like that. If your in that cops shoes you'd probably react the same way.
@@DontayMoore If you're not willing to risk your life in that job than you can stay tf home. If the task you're trying to accomplish in that job isn't worth risking your life over, why tf are you doing it. This is one of the many reasons the policing in this country is so bad.
@@fs127 self preservation is at the forefront of every humans mind in dangerous situations. No matter what the job is thats what you are thinking about when you decide to not to do something. That cop appears to have decide he wasnt going to allow someone to point a gun at him before asking/commanding him to put it down. Policing isn't the only problem its also how people interact with officers thats the problem. You act like police have to just let you do whatever before they can defend themselves. In every situation that ive seen where an officer has done that they've ended up dead. They are humans like me and you regardless of the job, perhaps if people treated them that way we'd have less problems. Just my opinion, but who am i right?
@@DontayMooreand yet, he's a cop. The other guy is in his home when someone he can't see starts pounding on his door then yelling that it was the police. If he didn't have the DV altercation, and it's not at all clear from the video that he was, even the girl who told the officer the apt number said she wasn't sure which apartment it had come from. I'm not saying the officer was wrong, but if he's not wrong the guy just living his life at his home has just as much right to fear for his life as the police officer. So, it's a tricky situation, that the professional should bear the bigger burden of responsibility IMO.
@@jracee1 of course the officer has the bigger responsibility. He has to make a split second decision having weighed the responsibility. It doesn't matter where the situation takes place, because to officer was called there. We could run hypotheticals all day but it wouldn't matter. The situation as it stands is what it is. From all that ive seen it appears to be justified. Im not sure why people are arguing that the officer should have waited to see if he waa going to drop the gun. Would you? I know i wouldn't.
Finally, two things can be true: the officer may not have done a good job, but also not be race motivated. That's what people can't seem to disconnect.
I agree with this because the ryan whitaker situation is basically the same. Except the call was over loud music then the guy who called, called a 2nd time and said if i say its a domestic situation will you come quicker
@kingslayerdamocles3019 oh, I hadn't heard all about that one, but yeah, it doesn't mean the cop knew any of that. Kind of like, they weren't just wandering around looking for minorities to abuse, you know?
They move out of the way because people have been known to shoot through the door. The door is not only ZERO protection and people have been killed by answering a knock or doorbell only to have the assailant shoot them through the door. The officer believes he is answering a domestic which is often considered the most dangerous type of call. This type of happening has long been a problem like the police answering a burglary call and mistaking the homeowner, esp an armed one for the burglar. Everything can happen in less than a second.
Van just making videos of other people videos and then has the nerve to act like he smart 😂😅 love van but his "I know everything" attitude lately is a drag.
Yeah keep making excuses for cowardice on the part of police officers. The homeowner wasn't breaking a law we have a constitutional right to bear arms especially in our own houses. It was not pointed at the police officer or anyone else so it's a completely unjustified shooting. Absolutely no excuse for it and fuck the whole officer safety bulshit which is actually cowardice or an excuse to violate we the people's rights.
@@bettylovell4214can't walk a mile in the innocent man they killed shoes anymore. FTP they're a bunch of cowards with a cushy job did they get paid way too much of our tax dollars to do. The man was murdered in his own house not breaking any laws. There's absolutely no fucking excuse for that. sheriff's deputy should go to prison for that cold-blooded murderer.
@@ELSnapoit’s not an excuse bro, go look up how many cops are killed going to calls labeled as domestic disturbances, even firefighters aren’t safe on those calls, The at the end of the day, the deputy announced himself twice before fortson opened the door with a gun, so fortson getting shot was no one’s fault but his own
Refer to the original video for context: the cop knocks on his door, and then moves out of sight of the peephole. Roger hears the loud knock at his door, and proceeds to walk to the walk to the door. As he is walking to the door, Roger says “Who is it?” (3:26), which strangely, wasn’t included in the subtitles in the video that the PD put out (even though it was clear as day what he said). The officer did not respond to him nor did he identify himself. So now it’s clear that roger made it to the door, and attempted to look through the peephole for about a couple seconds, only to see no one, because why? Because the officer was still out of sight of the peephole. At that point, Roger left the door, and was most likely going to retrieve his firearm for his safety. As he was walking away he said “I don’t know if it’s the police” (3:37) which if you say it fast, like how people often say it, and like he did, it sounds like “Ion if it’s the police”. Ion- (Pronounced: ow-n, or like noun without the “n”) is sometimes used as a shorter way of saying “I don't” or “I don't know.” So now, 4 seconds after walking away, Roger says something else which is extremely inaudible (3:41), which tells you that he walked into a different part of his house. 2 seconds later, the officer knocks for the second time, and identifies himself for the FIRST time (3:43). Now think for a moment. If the officer couldn’t make out what Roger said after he walked away from the door, how would Roger be able to make out anything that the officer said? So bam, now 8 seconds later, the officer knocks for the 3rd time (3:51) and identifies himself for the second time (3:54). But Roger had already got his weapon and is already in the motion of unlocking and opening the door, when the officer identified for the second time. And if you look at the body cam video, and put the playback speed at 0.25x, you will notice that at 3:58, the officer ACTUALLY said “Step out”, and not “Step back” which is written in the subtitles. Roger then complies, and proceeds to step out. He takes one step, and then the officer sees his weapon, unholsters his gun, and dished off 5 rounds at Roger. This is MURDER. And there is no justification for it.
Tatum u right about he’s not supposed to open the door with a gun in hand but he shoot that man to kill him bro 5 shots before even sayin drop the gun which was point down on the ground n not on him bro this isn’t justified
Nope. I believe that since the officer was able to draw his firearm so quickly, he had the upper hand. He should have given the command to drop the weapon before firing.
@LegendRonk training has nothing to do with this one. Dude didn't even attempt to raise his firearm. Drop your weapon should have been yelled as the cop was pointing his at him. He started firing as soon as he seen it. It was pointing towards the floor. Cop is wrong this time!
@@johnroser1341 you said the cop had the upper hand... Only way he did was because of training, that's my point. The guy should not have been fighting with his girl and then answered the door with a gun escalating the situation.
There’s a big difference between waiting for a person to open the door while being ready to drawl your 🔫 if needed and already having it level in firing position. The officer was immediately at a disadvantage as soon as the guy opened the door 🔫 in hand. Was it a knee jerk wrong reaction??? But guaranteed one thing. It wouldn’t have made it further than local news if it had been the cop laid out instead.
Ask your buddy the inbred cop if he was high on drugs that day and why didn’t he check to make sure he got off the right floor. He clearly got off on the 3rd floor. Go sit in the corner while grownups are talking.
If you take into account the speed at which the officer shot the Airman, it's obvious that he already un-holstered his gun, had it in his hand and was prepared to fire when he knocked on the door. So if you're implying that it only takes a split second for someone who already has the gun in his hand to kill you, you must be referring to the Officer. The young man had his gun pointing to the ground, the officer was locked, loaded and ready to shoot as soon as that door opened....and he did.
Okay, did anyone think that the noise was coming from the Television? Plus, the deputy should have waited for backup, and the command,”Drop your Weapon”, only came out after the shots were fired. So deputy Barbie Fife was all wrong and is guilty of murdering property of The United States Air Force….guilty…
The public trust has been damaged! Having a weapon, does not deem worthy of an execution. The thought of maiming or crippling the individual would at least give Roger the opportunity to learn some lesson and also give the opportunity to explain his side of the situation. This was wrong! The lady said there’s a disturbance what if he is also aware of the same disturbance? He was on guard due to flight or fight mode. Aim to maim not to kill!
The first nonannounced knock had the men pick up the gun, and he waited a bit before announcing himself was also a problem because the guy could have forgotten that he had a gun on his hand through the chaos, especially if he was on the phone. They teach them Officer safety trumps public safety, and that's where the problem lies in my opinion.
What a tragedy. Being Air Force and AFSOC. This hits me different. I know this young man didn't deserve this. He was in no way a criminal that has brought an interaction with the police onto himself. It doesn't matter. Anyone can claim to be the cops to get you to open the door. Answering with a firearm should perfectly acceptable in the US.
The reason he steps to one side of the door. A door way is called a kill zone for a reason. It’s a good idea not to stand directly in a door way or behind it in a hostile situation.
Look at it from the perspective of the victim--he wasn't able to identify the cop so why can't cops put themselves from the perspectives of the others.
Officer Tatum qualified his bias by his Ben crump analogy. Ben crump represents civil rights cases such as George Floyd and philando Castillo not ambulance chasing
I stopped watching that idiot when he agreed with the police officers not going into a certain school. If my child was in there I wouldn't let anyone hold me back. He cannot say that BS if his own child was in there. He absolutely lost all my respect with such an astonishing stupid take like that.
Exactly. I still remember the live stream where he challenged all of his subscribers to leave him because he was going to die on that hill defending Uvalde, and he was "BRANDON TATUM, gonna be good no matter what!" You think he would've learned some modesty with all his church talk. Haven't watched him since.
It's definitely not based 190% on emotion. Police are expected (though not required) to take action. That's why we (used to) hold them in high regard, and so, it was terrible PR for the police no matter your political beliefs. If the LE community brushes it off as ok, and to be fair the majority of police and even LE youtubers did acknowledge that's not how you police, it makes the profession as a whole look bad because people think that the whole LE community has a mindset contrary to their own. It was terrible for his credibility amd the credibility of all cops for him to defend it.
You never stand in front of a door when checking on a domestic, people have been known to shoot through doors resulting in death to the officer, it was not because the officer did no want to be seen.
Though there was articulated reasonable suspicion to knock on that door via a 911 call, the deputy didn't speak with anyone who witnessed anything, and the woman who met the deputy stated she was relaying someone else's story. She didn't see the event and should've been treated as unreliable. The deputy, with his own senses, certainly did not observe anything while at the door that a DV had occurred or was occurring. In my mind, knocking on a door and not having any realized perception of an imminent threat doesn't reach the reasonableness standard of lethal force. The deputy could have believed a violent crime occurred or was occurring, but he never gained that knowledge to make a reasonable threat assessment and misjudged the situation. Firing on someone for the mere presence of a firearm without some articulated behavior to cause harm is not justifiable. Even if the deputy was in fear of his life, his actions still needed to be reasonable.
Man this mf was looking to shoot someone he clearly don’t hear shit hell you could of ask leasing office to give you his number clearly it’s no damn noise in the room now I see why they saying it was wrong apartment
Who is this clown? To say he beat another woman some other time? Where is the DV charge. The leasing agent said she's heard a commotion before but this time it's worse...really? Roger and his girlfriend had a long distance relationship, he was face timing her the day of the incident. What other people said they've heard arguments before? He is active duty which means he is on base the majority of the time. Then to have this pseudo cop dishonor his military achievements talking about he didn't want to hear, obviously he didn't hear the military command staff at his funeral. I thought uncle toms played out....obviously not!
This guy apparently had a history of domestic incidents... So the cops being called to check in is not unreasonable to believe.. not some robber knocking on the door .
Both of you got it backwards. The guy had the firearm first, then opened the door and was able to acknowledged the presence of the police. It would be impossible for anyone to substantiate with this video that the guy acknowledged police presence first, then grabbed his firearm.
New method for armed robbery. Bang on the door and announce yourself as police. That way the homeowner wont have a defensive mindset when coming to the door. 😶
@@LegendRonk Not outside the realm of possibilities. The whole point is you're allowed to have a gun in this country. If it was holstered on his hip what would the reaction be? He never gestures with the gun in his hand. It was simply there.
@@LegendRonk First of all, it was all hearsay from a third party. Do you act on information that you receive from a third party without question; I sure don't. I know it was the only information the officer had to go on but he wasn't even given the name of the actual person who reported the dispute; automatically makes the call questionable. That's why you wait for backup; he didn't. He listened into the apartment before knocking and didn't hear any evidence of a disturbance which was supposed to be on-going. There were no exigent circumstances so you wait for your backup before moving forward. He didn't. Nor did he announce himself on the first knock. I understand why the officer moved to the side after knocking but understand if I'm in the apartment, here a knock with no announcement, go to the door, and can't see anyone, I going to a high state of alert. Second, you are assuming that the Airman provided verbal acknowledgement that there was an officer at his door, Why, because Officer Tatum said so? You looked at the same video I did right? I could not make out the muffled sounds so I don't know exactly what was said, that was just speculation. But here's what I do know. If you take into account the speed at which the officer shot the Airman, it's obvious that he already un-holstered his gun, had it in his hand and was prepared to fire when he knocked on the door. When the door slowly opened, the officer already had a clear advantage over Fortson who was stepping backwards with the gun pointed down to the ground. The officer could have stepped to the side, shielding himself with the wall, and ordered Fortson to put his weapon down. Or he could have waited for Fortson to attempt to raise his gun before unloading; again the officer had the clear advantage. The only hand Fortson had raised was his left hand with an open palm and spread fingers when the officer put 5 rounds in his chest - center mass. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, then he orders Fortson to drop his weapon.
My partner is a police officer. They do not draw their guns out. They just have them in their belt. That's the difference between our cops here in Portugal and cops in America. My parner said he only drew his gun out twice in his career of 13 years as a police officer, and he's never used it. It's so damn sad that it's necessary to have the guns ready for use in America. Although the difference here is that civilians do not own guns. Just guns for hunting. The threat is way lower when someone opens the door. At most, they can get punched or have to get into a brawl with the suspect when they're agitated.
Well here in America these situations can turn deadly in less than a second. You blink and your life can be over... What would you do, given the situation here? You're called to a domestic dispute where a woman may be potentially getting beat on and the man opens the door with a gun in hand
I’ve watched the video. This reminds me of the shooting of Botham Jean. There was NO way this shooting was justified in anyway. This was nothing more than an angry and prejudiced cop with a hair trigger. He needs to be charged with manslaughter at the very least. Not saying it was racial prejudice, though it could be, but definitely he prejudged the situation as a DV incident when there was absolutely nothing but hearsay for him to go by. One would think the lack of yelling and screaming would give the cop pause to consider if what he was told was accurate. He also seemed annoyed from the get go when talking with the apartment manager…like he didn’t have time or patience for nonsense and just wanted to get it over with, no questions asked. Who made the initial complaint to the apartment management office? This seems fishy…almost like a setup.
Karens SWATted that airman. That downward-pointing gun was no more of a deadly threat to that officer in that second than the acorn was to that other officer.
You really think opening the door with a firearm was smart? Most reach or run for the pre pew stick. This guy got it IN his hand. No. Just no. Again, this isn’t the FIRST time they caused issues for neighbors. We get you got money to buy sound proof apartment, but most of us do not. It’s annoying at the least, it could be life threatening at worst. What this cop got called there for, IS the highest percentage of violent outcomes. I’m not pro or con for police. But this, is too easy to understand.
@@irritatingtruth9121 The world is not dangerous just for cops. It is dangerous for lay people too. So lay people have a right to be armed too. We do not surrender that right just because somebody claiming to be a cop comes a knocking. So I do not expect a lay person to just bend over for a supposed cop. The airman held a gun. He did not brandish it or waive it around recklessly. He did not point it at the cop. And he certainly didn't fire it. The cop saw a gun and panicked. He saw a gun being held downward firmly at the ground with a locked out arm, and he panicked. He saw a man armed with a gun in a non-threatening position, and he panicked. He saw a man inside the man's own private premises, and he panicked. Then he shot the airman--five times. That is an overreaction. It is overkill. There was no search or seizure warrant. There were no exigent circumstances. The cop never even witnessed a crime. Cops shouldn't be homicidal bullies. And citizens shouldn't meekly bow down to them just for existing, wearing a uniform, or knocking on a door. He was a deputy? Good for him. That didn't entitle him to kill this man. And neither did the cop's fear. Deputy should have gotten some counseling for that fear factor, instead of upping his kill count.
@@LegendRonk So, just turn around and present your glory hole to anyone who knocks on your door? I mean, as you say, they'll do it real fast. No harm, no foul. Just let them have at it? Cops need to get over that fear. If they go to someone's home, the resident controls that scene and situation. The cops are the visitors, and they should act like it. They should not expect the residents to be all meek and timid to make their lives easier. It's not the cop's home! Yes, stuff can pop off real fast. Look how fast that cop shot this man 5 times and whacked him! So citizens have just as much grounds to fear the cops. There needs to be mutual respect in all interactions, and not a one-way relationship of expected subservience. I've had cops bang on my door twice. They had the wrong house and the wrong guy one time. They accused me of letting my family dog out to harass neighbors, and I pointed out that there was a similar description stray dog behind the cops right then, even while our dog was barking her head off in the back room inside our house. On another occasion, I got wrongly lit up for a supposed lack of a front registration plate and berated when I didn't immediately pull over in an unfamiliar neighborhood, only to show the cop in a public gas station parking lot that I actually had both plates posted and he was talking out his @$$. After I beat a bogus stop sign ticket the cop came to my door to harass me and try to get me to slip up and confess something, even though he conveniently didn't bring any camera footage of the actual traffic stop, and when he failed to get me, I shut the door in his face. So I don't think they're all that. I don't kiss their tails. I don't assume they're in the right. I assume they're bullies with a badge and bullets, until they prove they have a reason to bother me. And yeah, some of them are faster draws than us. But there are a lot more of us than there are of them. And they know it too.
@@mindyourbizok hence why I used the word “was”. Past tense, have you heard of it? Is English not your first language? He was; which means he has intimate knowledge of the profession that we don’t have.
Sorry but not in nice neighborhoods people call the police on lowlifes screaming how they will hurt people on the phone that is normal where peaceful people live. I have been that lowlife and at some point you need to take accountability for your demeanor
@thebridge6967 I believe that you only owe not yelling to people that deserve it. Your family can have idiots in it that need to be yelled at. Lowlifes go into physical. I just said how people argue. It's common sense. And it happens. If it's daily, that is different. If it's physical, that is different.
@@thebridge6967 you assume he is a low life. What if it is his gf that instigates the fight.and screams. Because it is not her house.doesnt mean he got physical. But women now a days are the aggressors. And you have to admit there are alot of nosy neighbors. That start stuff all the time . Not saying that is what happened but be honest enough to know you don't know either. And it is his life that was lost. Not the girlfriend.
@@thebridge6967Well, I guess we don't have to worry anymore. The cops killed this supposed "lowlife", so you can smile and thank God for another wonderful blessing in your life.
It takes a split second for someone who already has the gun in his hand to kill you, what would you do if your life was on the line? While I'm telling this guy to put the gun down I'm already hit and on my way to eternity, are you willing to take that chance? I'm not, and neither are you.
If you take into account the speed at which the officer shot the Airman, it's obvious that he already un-holstered his gun, had it in his hand and was prepared to fire when he knocked on the door. So when you say it takes a split second for someone who already has the gun in his hand to kill you, you must be referring to the Officer. Because when the door slowly opened, the officer already had a clear advantage over Fortson who was stepping backwards with the gun pointed down to the ground and his finger off the trigger. The officer could have stepped to the side to be shielded by the wall and ordered Fortson to put his weapon down. Or he could have waited for Fortson to attempt to raise his gun before unloading; he had the clear advantage. The only hand Fortson had raised was his left hand with an open palm and spread fingers indicating please don't shoot before the officer put 5 rounds in his chest, center mass. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, then he orders Fortson to drop his weapon.
Who told you all he knew it was the police know where in this video does it say nor do we hear anything from this young man you also left out the part when the officer knocked then didn’t say anything and it’s not against law to open door with a gun and this the same department that shot up a cop car over a acorn smh seem like they all scared
Van this is one of the first things I learned when I got my learners permit Exactly 100 percent opposite of what this guy did It’s basic gun safety 101 This guy knew exactly what he was doing I want to uncover his mental health records
Cops, Tatum, whoever can spin it however they choose but the man was NOT in a domestic disturbance situation, he was alone, he’s allowed to have a gun and he’s allowed to answer his door with it ( pointed to ground ) and he was flat out murdered in his doorway because of the blue line officer safety culture that is terrorizing citizens.
There was NO domestic disturbance at that apartment on that day or any previous day. The victim was the only person in the apartment. The girlfriend lives in Georgia, and she was rarely even at the apartment. Ironically, a neighboring apartment on the same floor has had many, many complaints for loud arguments and domestic violence over the past few months. The individuals who called in the complaints didn't have their facts straight, which derailed the fiasco train from the start...
Police officers are trained to not stand directly in front of the doorway for safety purposes in case the person behind the door has a firearm and fires it through the door. That makes perfect sense. The officer is not required to announce himself before knocking or show himself through the peephole.
The officer is not required to show himself through the peephole, but by Law, they are absolutely required to announce themself (in or out of uniform) . Florida Statue 933.09 "Florida's Knock-and-Announce Statue".
Theres a lot of assumptions that the victim heard the announcement of "Sheriffs office open the door". He likely heard the first knock, didnt see anyone, and went back for his weapon. The victim held up his other hand in a defensive way while keeping his weapon pointed down by his side... not justified. Bad reaction by the cop.
Officer Tatum probably did not break down the actual shooting and commands because he said earlier in his video that he would not show that part of the body cam footage due to UA-cam reasons. I don't think it was an oversight or that he was intentionally avoiding that part of the sheriff's action to avoid criticizing the sheriff. He was just operating within the youtube boundaries. But, that's just my opinion. Thanks for the questions. Truth is essential and I appreciate you seeking it.
Have 2 questions. 1) in what way did he acknowledge it was a deputy at the door? 2) if he was playing video games, as said. And face timing with his boo. How do we know if he heard any else besides the banging on the door?
14:39 you can hear Roger say “Who is it?” And no response… I can hear it perfectly, I know the deputy heard it, and I know whoever wrote these subtitles did too..
I'm not super down on this cop, I get his actions, but if your logic holds does it seem just as reasonable to not knock on the door if you feel like you need a gun to defend against an unknown threat? I don't think that makes sense in either direction.
@@LegendRonkso the cop retrieved the gun from his holster that quick? the guy in the apartment already had his hand up as if he knew he was about to get shot.
This breaks my heart, no one needed to die here. This entire situation on both sides was handled poorly. Although it is legal to answer you door with a firearm at your side (I wouldn't, but it's not illegal) that officer in my opinion did not use his tactics, he seemed high strung knocking on the door. I dunno, this whole situation is heartbreaking.
The apartment employee that called also knows the apartment number on the forth floor that’s cops responded to 6 times for domestic violence and knew it wasn’t the poor airman’s apartment number she’s guilty also and the cops hand looks colored when knocking
Cops don't know what is behind that door. So he didn't know what to expect. There is no time for pleasantries when someone comes to the door with a gun in his hand. No time!
Why is he assuming that he was acknowledging that he knew it was the police. This guy was active duty military trained to use his fire arm. He wasnt an idiot! The officer never stood in line of site so he could se who it was on the other side of the door. I would have grabbed my weapon also and not opened the door until I saw ID and ofcourse holstered/ concealed weapon prior to opening door.
How do you know he HEARD " Sheriff's office"?? How do you KNOW the inaudible sounds came from that apartment. What girl Tatum??? Wasn't he on FaceTime? You can handle a virtual girl now?
That me explain to you what happened. First of all, understand this a special force airman, so he is used to having a gun in his hand. 2nd, the officer first knocked on the door but never announced himself . Two times. Airman looked through his peep hole and, at that point, got his gun. What failed to realize is that the officer never showed himself for the airman to see. Now you got somebody at your door that knocked two times but never said anything. Then he knocked again and said he was with the sheriff's office but still dont show himself. Which made the airman suspicious. End the once the airman realized that it really was a sheriff officer, he started complying. The reason it's a bad shoot is that once the officer raised his gun when he saw the airman with a gun, he should have commanded the airman to drop the gun. The officer already had the advantage with his gun aim at the airman, and the airman gun is by his side. He chose to unload on him 6 times. Then tell him after he shot him to drop the gun. He never gave the airman a chance. I serve in the Marines, and we never shot this quick, just a person having a gun. This officer should be fired and charge.
I saw an eerily similar video where a white dude was shot in the back while he was trying to put his firearm down after answering 2 cops who knocked and ducked out of line of sight on peephole. he was playing games with his girlfriend. it was a noise complaint. shooting officer panicked and immediately opened fire even though weapon was pointed down and guy was attempting to comply. I’m sorry but police are not military in an insurgency, they are trained to pull that trigger way too quickly.
...if the woman is a leasing agent, why would she not know the exact apartment...why she didnt knock on the door to make sure of altercation...it just does not make sense.
Officers are trained to avoid standing in the fatal funnel area and to emphasize the importance of having a backup partner. The Florida Castle Doctrine allows individuals to use force, including deadly force, to defend themselves against intruders in their home, vehicle, or any other place where they have a legal right to be, aiming to provide clear protections for self-defense. In the incident described, when the door was opened, the individual had the gun pointed down and raised his left hand to signal recognition of the Deputy. Answering the door with a gun can be a reasonable precaution if there is uncertainty about the visitor's identity. The Deputy asked him to step out, but the sheriff has not clarified how they confirmed they were at the correct apartment, even though the individual was on FaceTime with his girlfriend at the time. Deputies are allowed to use deadly force if they reasonably feel their life is in danger. However, the deputy should have obtained background information from dispatch to verify if they had previously been to that apartment. Relying solely on information from a complainant is insufficient; officers need to conduct their own investigation. Additionally, the complainant claims about hearing a "slap" sound or what appeared to be an argument weeks ago is questionable and if it was a serious concern, a call to the police should have been made immediately and could have been anonymous. The deputy’s reaction appeared to be an overreaction out of fear.
This was not justified. That cop made a huge mistake and murdered that man. I don’t think he went there to murder him, but he did the exact wrong thing and he should be held accountable.
What you are saying is total BS. We b p have no respect for anybody ,it's disgraceful ! They are looking for taxpayers money right now.
No sh-t. But Tatum thinks its totally justified. No surprise. He thinks Floyd killing was justified too. F-ck Tatum!
It's America Dogg, hell many of us could be taken to court and found guilty of breathing and if the police get to you first they are authorized and sanctioned to put a stop to it. Deputy may have won the Officer of the Decade Award for this. At least he will make Honorable Mention. But he will get off after this quiets down a bit. Traitor Tatum will do all he can to see to it. One day they will turn on Tatem and he will come limping back to the hood, all scared and beaten to a pulp looking for his peeps but they will be either at a cemetery or serving 100-plus years in a maximum prison for a license plate light out. We are way too forgiving.
Young Airman lying on the floor bleeding out and is ordered to drop his weapon and raise his hands.
@@dwainmcwilliams2043what does him being a young airman have to do with anything?
Was he wearing his air force uniform and did the deputy know he was in the Air Force?
You can try to justify this all day, but a professional with a gun shot dead a man who was in his own home holding his own gun in a non threatening manner opening his own door as demanded by the government agent who was acting on the word of a dubious person who said she wasn't even sure where it came from. The professional government agent made mistakes that killed a man. He needs to be held accountable for his mistakes. A man is dead because of him. Took a 3rd party's word about a past disturbance. Took her word which apartment it was. Didn't appear to get the name of the resient and look at his history prior to knocking on the door. Didn't hear a disturbance. Shot a guy just because he was holding a gun in his own home. This Tatum guy has the boot so far down his throat that it has cut the oxygen off to his brain.
You know what made it a threat? The nature of the call, history of domestic incidents at his residence. What person in their right mind who has had cops called to his place before for similar incidents answer the door with a gun? Him being a serviceman, knowing it can take a split second for an enemy to turn deadly is very likely. This guy was not in the right state of mind.
@@LegendRonkDo you think the cop should get a medal for bravery for killing the airman?
@@alwaysmiserable I don't think a cop should get a medal for doing their job.
What crime did Fortson commit? When did Fortson threaten the officer? Is it against the law to answer the door of your own place of residence with a gun? How do you know what is happening behind the door? Probably this. Probably that. Probably is an assumption. The other scenarios have nothing to do with Fortson. Right? How is having a gun unreasonable in a land where gun ownership is legal? We don't know why Fortson had a gun because he's no longer here to offer an explanation.
@@alwaysmiserable He probably will get one but he shouldn't. But we know at least he will get the honorable mention after a few months when our 15-minute of remembrance society moves on to a more outrageous event, that is overdue. Remember Tamir Rice, the kid with the toy gun.
Tatum IS BRAINWASHED from trainning just my thoughts
True. Candace Owen’s relative
Yes
Explain why you think that and what doesn’t make sense to you
@@dwighthowse6818 have you ever been to a cop training spot ? i have and from NYC that is why it makes no sense there was 2 cops called to help a lady get in her home and 1 raped her the other stood guard sick the whole system is built to rob and rape us !
@@dwighthowse6818because everything is supposed to be fact based,Tatum is creating a narrative like he don’t ever see what’s going on that’s factually based and back by case law. Meaning he goes off of feelings.
That cop stood at that door for a couple of second listening. To see if he heard any arguing between the couple. Which he did not. Please make this make sense. Where did self defense come in at. That young man never pointed his gun at the officer. Matter of fact the young man had his hand up like wait, wait don't shoot. That cop seen the gun in his hand, when Roger open the door. Instead of the telling Roger to put the gun down. He told him to step back than just started shooting. Was that to make it look like self defense. Well he had a gun. Was this planned by the people that called the police. It happens all the time. I'm so sick of people calling cops on innocent people for no reason. So where is the woman and man that was fighting. Because Roger didn't have a woman in his home?
He never pointed the gun at the officer he held it aside with his left hand up.
Unfortunately that does not matter. Tragic thing
When he knocked the first time he didn't announce himself, that's what made him get his gun and then when he decided to announce himself he may feel he is gonna be setup for a trick, so he kept his gun on him, but he was also trained to keep his gun pointed on the floor just in case if it was a real cop, as you see he never pointed the gun at the cop, he raised his hand as a plea to a cop that he's not a threat and the cop shot him up before he can even plea, that's why the cop is in the wrong
Lmao raised his hand as a plea? C'mon man
@@LegendRonk ..... would you rather he raised his gun instead or what? Change the laws if you're so pressed on just the presence of a gun. Make them illegal so that cops don't have to be scared of a fucking acorn.
@@yeety6415 given the totality of the circumstances, a reasonable cop believed his life was in danger when called to a domestic dispute call the suspect answered the door with a gun. Roll the dice whether the guy is in the right state of mind after seconds before being in a heated argument with his ole lady for what has been numerous times. I would rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6, you decide.
So why didn’t he talk to the officer through the door and have him show Is through peep hole?
If officer wouldn’t do that, he could call the police to find out if they have an officer at his home.
The first 2 times when the officer knocked and didn't announce himself, he became suspicious, and when the 3rd time that he knocked and decided to announce himself, now he feels like he's being pranked by a home invader, so that's a good reason for him to have the gun, and the purpose of him putting his hand up was to convince the officer that he wasn't no threat to him, especially with his gun pointed to the floor and no finger around the trigger, that's what US airman are trained to do when they feel like they are about to encounter someone who could be a threat but not sure, so yes the officer is still at fault for shooting without letting him explain why he had the gun on him
He's not a cop anymore. Stop calling him Officer Tatum.
He's not even a human at this point. He's just a parody.
Same guy who defended Uvalde cops
Exactly. I still remember the live stream where he challenged all of his subscribers to leave him because he was going to die on that hill defending Uvalde, and he was "BRANDON TATUM, gonna be good no matter what!" You think he would've learned some modesty with all his church talk. Haven't watched him since.
And if you had paid any attention you would have learned that all of the children were dead anyway and the delay, although stupid and against what I was taught, did not make any difference.
@williammoreland1870 but the officers could not have known that at the time. You're making a hindsight argument. If I remember correctly, one of the students was in an adjoining classroom on the phone with 911 while the officers were in the hallway.
@@rogerwood5228 did you read what I wrote?I was not defending what they did, I was just pointing out the details of the situation.
@williammoreland1870 Yes, I read what you wrote. But your analysis is that it didn't matter what the action of the officers was because the children were already decreased. My argument to you is that the officers on scene, at that time, did not have any information that no one was alive. For all they knew, everyone of those children could still be alive. The issue is that they didn't act to save those children but rather cowarded to save themselves.
IF YOU HEAR SHERIFF DEPARTMENT AT THE DOOR AND YOUR BLACK , DON'T ANSWER THE DOOR .. it's not safe .
I don’t care what your color is. Do not answer your door to anyone you do not know
Anybody could say they are the police, u have the responsibility too protect the citizen.
Supreme Court ruled that police "Do Not" have a constitutional duty to protect a person from harm, even woman who have obtained a court-issued protective order. Castle Rock v. Gonzales
This can be a precursor to home invasion/burglary. There is no reason a man should be killed for simply possessing a firearm in his home because this LEO is to fragile and scared to do their job. Granted with experience comes the wisdom to call 911 if someone is banging on your door yelling LEO to confirm.
The foolishness of being young. It appears the young man made a foolish mistake. The young man appears to be a very honorable and intelligent young man who made a tragic mistake.
@@respiratoryedThe cop wanted to kill him.
If he believed they weren’t police, he should have had the officer show his badge through the peep hole and talked to him through the door, then. He didn’t. He chose to open the door with a gun. Why?
I wouldn’t be so quick to label Crump a “fraud”
Lol,it clearly is what fits.
How is he a fraud? Wake up pls.
@@dayooguntunde5585 He lies for a living, THAT IS WHAT A FRAUD DOES.
@@dayooguntunde5585 lying for a living is what fraudsters do.
Crump is a fraud, but even a broke clock is right twice a day.
THEY NEED TO GET RID OF TATUM QUICKLY
They eventually will get him. How many people gave limb, life, and liberty for him to get that prestigious job. Rather than saying thank you to his forbearers this is how he repays them. There will always be cowards and turncoats among our ranks. Judas sold out Christ for 20 pieces of silver. Old Tatum here, makes way more than that.
Agree 💯💯💯💯💯
You guys are sicking to the core. Get out of here with all this sucking up. More sell outs . 😢😢
You stand on the side of the door so you don’t get shot through the door
This is to intelligent for van your thinking too much.
That's the opposite of ID'ing yourself as a cop. Literally anyone can claim they're a cop for home invasion. Common fucking sense, especially if you live in a shady ass neighborhood. You don't stand on the side of the door for a goddamn domestic dispute either.
I'll never accuse cops of being brave. Everything they do is based on "officer safety" and cowardice.
WAIT FOR YOUR BACK-UP
@@yeety6415yes you do. Are you a police officer?
Not Justified.
Dude didn't even give the guy a chance to back up they just shot him
When he said back up it was most lilley before he saw the gun, he was saying back up away from the door because I don't know if you will attack me, once he saw the gun in his hand he shot, that changed the whole situation, the back up command was before the gun was seen
@@norrisdrawdy7437 He said "step out" and didnt even give the command to drop the weapon until after he shot him and gun was no longer in his hand. This is f-ng Florida. EVERYONE IS ARMED! WTF???
Cop moved to the side so he wouldn't get SHOT, fool!! - Tell me you don't know how to make it difficult for someone behind a door to shoot you... without telling me you don't know how to make it difficult.
The first time he knocked, he moved completely out of sight of the peephole. If he was that worried, he should have called for backup. He didn't hear any of what was said to him, and if this was so called a reoccurring problem, it would have been on file.
@@CoffeeShopChatter I swear... you people don't know 💩 about self-defense, yet y'all are out here running around loose in cyber space tryina tell those who DO know self-defense, what WE should do.
Please take a whole seat somewhere and wait for the knock.
"Natural Selection" should take care of you.
@@CoffeeShopChatteryou’re trained not to stand in front of a doorway.. someone and throw rounds through the door or open the door and immediately start firing. Which is why you announce your office when you knock so the person knows who’s at the door. Make sense?
You identify yourself first, then step aside. You don't knock someone door, and don't speak. So he may have not taken him serious when knock the second time. So he picked up his weapon, which he got alright to . Secondly this officer got off on the 3rd floor, but was told to get off on the 4th floor. Ben crump was right on that one. It was the wrong door
@@jotoleeoshoko5096 ALL debunked LIES
Ben is a race-baiting fool, who has YOU fooled.
Being a former police officer, you gotta remember when he's defending cops, good or bad, he's coming at it from the point of view of knowing what kind of (shitty) training the cops get, as well as policies depts. have for various circumstances.
What shitty training?
i disagree just seen a story of a guy acting like a police officer if the guy did not point a gun at him he should not of shot
It takes less than a second to lose your life in a situation like this. So your saying what for the person to point the gun then shoot? Takes a millisecond of hesitation to die in a situation like that. If your in that cops shoes you'd probably react the same way.
@@DontayMoore If you're not willing to risk your life in that job than you can stay tf home.
If the task you're trying to accomplish in that job isn't worth risking your life over, why tf are you doing it.
This is one of the many reasons the policing in this country is so bad.
@@fs127 self preservation is at the forefront of every humans mind in dangerous situations. No matter what the job is thats what you are thinking about when you decide to not to do something. That cop appears to have decide he wasnt going to allow someone to point a gun at him before asking/commanding him to put it down. Policing isn't the only problem its also how people interact with officers thats the problem. You act like police have to just let you do whatever before they can defend themselves. In every situation that ive seen where an officer has done that they've ended up dead. They are humans like me and you regardless of the job, perhaps if people treated them that way we'd have less problems. Just my opinion, but who am i right?
@@DontayMooreand yet, he's a cop. The other guy is in his home when someone he can't see starts pounding on his door then yelling that it was the police. If he didn't have the DV altercation, and it's not at all clear from the video that he was, even the girl who told the officer the apt number said she wasn't sure which apartment it had come from. I'm not saying the officer was wrong, but if he's not wrong the guy just living his life at his home has just as much right to fear for his life as the police officer. So, it's a tricky situation, that the professional should bear the bigger burden of responsibility IMO.
@@jracee1 of course the officer has the bigger responsibility. He has to make a split second decision having weighed the responsibility. It doesn't matter where the situation takes place, because to officer was called there. We could run hypotheticals all day but it wouldn't matter. The situation as it stands is what it is. From all that ive seen it appears to be justified. Im not sure why people are arguing that the officer should have waited to see if he waa going to drop the gun. Would you? I know i wouldn't.
Only another cop would try to justify this. No way in hell was this justified on any level in any universe. Except in Nazi Germany. .
Finally, two things can be true: the officer may not have done a good job, but also not be race motivated. That's what people can't seem to disconnect.
I agree with this because the ryan whitaker situation is basically the same. Except the call was over loud music then the guy who called, called a 2nd time and said if i say its a domestic situation will you come quicker
@kingslayerdamocles3019 oh, I hadn't heard all about that one, but yeah, it doesn't mean the cop knew any of that. Kind of like, they weren't just wandering around looking for minorities to abuse, you know?
@@user-oo5be4xs4w exactly the ryan whitaker situation is a white dude. That why i bring it up when people say its a race thing
@kingslayerdamocles3019 thanks, and I'll check that one out, too. 👍
Not race motivated?
😂😂😂😂😂
He'd have done the same.if a white opened the door?
They move out of the way because people have been known to shoot through the door. The door is not only ZERO protection and people have been killed by answering a knock or doorbell only to have the assailant shoot them through the door. The officer believes he is answering a domestic which is often considered the most dangerous type of call. This type of happening has long been a problem like the police answering a burglary call and mistaking the homeowner, esp an armed one for the burglar. Everything can happen in less than a second.
Amen! Walk a mile in someone else's shoes and you might just understand what they are dealing with.
Van just making videos of other people videos and then has the nerve to act like he smart 😂😅 love van but his "I know everything" attitude lately is a drag.
Yeah keep making excuses for cowardice on the part of police officers. The homeowner wasn't breaking a law we have a constitutional right to bear arms especially in our own houses. It was not pointed at the police officer or anyone else so it's a completely unjustified shooting. Absolutely no excuse for it and fuck the whole officer safety bulshit which is actually cowardice or an excuse to violate we the people's rights.
@@bettylovell4214can't walk a mile in the innocent man they killed shoes anymore. FTP they're a bunch of cowards with a cushy job did they get paid way too much of our tax dollars to do. The man was murdered in his own house not breaking any laws. There's absolutely no fucking excuse for that. sheriff's deputy should go to prison for that cold-blooded murderer.
@@ELSnapoit’s not an excuse bro, go look up how many cops are killed going to calls labeled as domestic disturbances, even firefighters aren’t safe on those calls, The at the end of the day, the deputy announced himself twice before fortson opened the door with a gun, so fortson getting shot was no one’s fault but his own
Refer to the original video for context: the cop knocks on his door, and then moves out of sight of the peephole. Roger hears the loud knock at his door, and proceeds to walk to the walk to the door. As he is walking to the door, Roger says “Who is it?” (3:26), which strangely, wasn’t included in the subtitles in the video that the PD put out (even though it was clear as day what he said). The officer did not respond to him nor did he identify himself. So now it’s clear that roger made it to the door, and attempted to look through the peephole for about a couple seconds, only to see no one, because why? Because the officer was still out of sight of the peephole. At that point, Roger left the door, and was most likely going to retrieve his firearm for his safety. As he was walking away he said “I don’t know if it’s the police” (3:37) which if you say it fast, like how people often say it, and like he did, it sounds like “Ion if it’s the police”. Ion- (Pronounced: ow-n, or like noun without the “n”) is sometimes used as a shorter way of saying “I don't” or “I don't know.” So now, 4 seconds after walking away, Roger says something else which is extremely inaudible (3:41), which tells you that he walked into a different part of his house. 2 seconds later, the officer knocks for the second time, and identifies himself for the FIRST time (3:43). Now think for a moment. If the officer couldn’t make out what Roger said after he walked away from the door, how would Roger be able to make out anything that the officer said? So bam, now 8 seconds later, the officer knocks for the 3rd time (3:51) and identifies himself for the second time (3:54). But Roger had already got his weapon and is already in the motion of unlocking and opening the door, when the officer identified for the second time. And if you look at the body cam video, and put the playback speed at 0.25x, you will notice that at 3:58, the officer ACTUALLY said “Step out”, and not “Step back” which is written in the subtitles. Roger then complies, and proceeds to step out. He takes one step, and then the officer sees his weapon, unholsters his gun, and dished off 5 rounds at Roger. This is MURDER. And there is no justification for it.
Tatum u right about he’s not supposed to open the door with a gun in hand but he shoot that man to kill him bro 5 shots before even sayin drop the gun which was point down on the ground n not on him bro this isn’t justified
...simple, he may have never heard he was an officer...he could have been gone to get his gun and missed that.
Officer Tatum gives me Akademics vibes looks and foolishness
Nope. I believe that since the officer was able to draw his firearm so quickly, he had the upper hand. He should have given the command to drop the weapon before firing.
Called training and it has to be a upper hand... Imagine the bad guys were better than you? Who will defend the defenseless?
@LegendRonk training has nothing to do with this one. Dude didn't even attempt to raise his firearm. Drop your weapon should have been yelled as the cop was pointing his at him. He started firing as soon as he seen it. It was pointing towards the floor. Cop is wrong this time!
@@johnroser1341 you said the cop had the upper hand... Only way he did was because of training, that's my point. The guy should not have been fighting with his girl and then answered the door with a gun escalating the situation.
@LegendRonk nope, he should have told him to drop it first.
@@LegendRonk fighting with his girl. fool dont even know the number or floor.
There’s a big difference between waiting for a person to open the door while being ready to drawl your 🔫 if needed and already having it level in firing position.
The officer was immediately at a disadvantage as soon as the guy opened the door 🔫 in hand.
Was it a knee jerk wrong reaction???
But guaranteed one thing. It wouldn’t have made it further than local news if it had been the cop laid out instead.
Ask your buddy the inbred cop if he was high on drugs that day and why didn’t he check to make sure he got off the right floor. He clearly got off on the 3rd floor. Go sit in the corner while grownups are talking.
If you take into account the speed at which the officer shot the Airman, it's obvious that he already un-holstered his gun, had it in his hand and was prepared to fire when he knocked on the door. So if you're implying that it only takes a split second for someone who already has the gun in his hand to kill you, you must be referring to the Officer. The young man had his gun pointing to the ground, the officer was locked, loaded and ready to shoot as soon as that door opened....and he did.
Okay, did anyone think that the noise was coming from the Television? Plus, the
deputy should have waited for backup, and the command,”Drop your Weapon”,
only came out after the shots were fired. So deputy Barbie Fife was all wrong
and is guilty of murdering property of The United States Air Force….guilty…
The public trust has been damaged!
Having a weapon, does not deem worthy of an execution. The thought of maiming or crippling the individual would at least give Roger the opportunity to learn some lesson and also give the opportunity to explain his side of the situation. This was wrong!
The lady said there’s a disturbance what if he is also aware of the same disturbance? He was on guard due to flight or fight mode.
Aim to maim not to kill!
These cops are so scary at the demise of innocent people.
I hate it I hate it but the sheriff will beat this case and my heart breaks for the family
This makes me look at Tatum differently.
The first nonannounced knock had the men pick up the gun, and he waited a bit before announcing himself was also a problem because the guy could have forgotten that he had a gun on his hand through the chaos, especially if he was on the phone. They teach them Officer safety trumps public safety, and that's where the problem lies in my opinion.
What a tragedy. Being Air Force and AFSOC. This hits me different. I know this young man didn't deserve this. He was in no way a criminal that has brought an interaction with the police onto himself.
It doesn't matter. Anyone can claim to be the cops to get you to open the door. Answering with a firearm should perfectly acceptable in the US.
The reason he steps to one side of the door. A door way is called a kill zone for a reason. It’s a good idea not to stand directly in a door way or behind it in a hostile situation.
Walls are made of paper. Cops really are below asvab level huh
Look at it from the perspective of the victim--he wasn't able to identify the cop so why can't cops put themselves from the perspectives of the others.
Officer Tatum qualified his bias by his Ben crump analogy. Ben crump represents civil rights cases such as George Floyd and philando Castillo not ambulance chasing
If there were other domestic cases the sheriff would have a record
I stopped watching that idiot when he agreed with the police officers not going into a certain school. If my child was in there I wouldn't let anyone hold me back. He cannot say that BS if his own child was in there. He absolutely lost all my respect with such an astonishing stupid take like that.
I love the argument based 10000000000% on emotion lol
So you don't agree 1 time and you speak like that? Wow
Exactly. I still remember the live stream where he challenged all of his subscribers to leave him because he was going to die on that hill defending Uvalde, and he was "BRANDON TATUM, gonna be good no matter what!" You think he would've learned some modesty with all his church talk. Haven't watched him since.
It's definitely not based 190% on emotion. Police are expected (though not required) to take action. That's why we (used to) hold them in high regard, and so, it was terrible PR for the police no matter your political beliefs. If the LE community brushes it off as ok, and to be fair the majority of police and even LE youtubers did acknowledge that's not how you police, it makes the profession as a whole look bad because people think that the whole LE community has a mindset contrary to their own. It was terrible for his credibility amd the credibility of all cops for him to defend it.
Thank you bro for educating what this ignorant cop is saying.
You never stand in front of a door when checking on a domestic, people have been known to shoot through doors resulting in death to the officer, it was not because the officer did no want to be seen.
Coward cops like Tatum is gonna defend other officer's but Tatum is so wrong for defending this Coward officer who killed that innocent man
The leasing office gave the officer the wrong address
She gave him the correct apartment number and floor, the pig stayed on the third floor when the call was for the fourth floor.
Though there was articulated reasonable suspicion to knock on that door via a 911 call, the deputy didn't speak with anyone who witnessed anything, and the woman who met the deputy stated she was relaying someone else's story. She didn't see the event and should've been treated as unreliable. The deputy, with his own senses, certainly did not observe anything while at the door that a DV had occurred or was occurring. In my mind, knocking on a door and not having any realized perception of an imminent threat doesn't reach the reasonableness standard of lethal force. The deputy could have believed a violent crime occurred or was occurring, but he never gained that knowledge to make a reasonable threat assessment and misjudged the situation. Firing on someone for the mere presence of a firearm without some articulated behavior to cause harm is not justifiable. Even if the deputy was in fear of his life, his actions still needed to be reasonable.
This shouldn’t be a surprise
I'm sure this isn't the first time Tatum watched this.
Man this mf was looking to shoot someone he clearly don’t hear shit hell you could of ask leasing office to give you his number clearly it’s no damn noise in the room now I see why they saying it was wrong apartment
A statist will always side with the state actors. Use your best judgment my man.
Who is this clown? To say he beat another woman some other time? Where is the DV charge. The leasing agent said she's heard a commotion before but this time it's worse...really? Roger and his girlfriend had a long distance relationship, he was face timing her the day of the incident. What other people said they've heard arguments before? He is active duty which means he is on base the majority of the time. Then to have this pseudo cop dishonor his military achievements talking about he didn't want to hear, obviously he didn't hear the military command staff at his funeral. I thought uncle toms played out....obviously not!
Where does he live? Is he in a bad neighborhood? Anyone can announce they are the cops.
This guy apparently had a history of domestic incidents... So the cops being called to check in is not unreasonable to believe.. not some robber knocking on the door .
Stop lying@@LegendRonk
@@LegendRonk How?
He lived alone.
That's why he was Facetiming his girlfriend.
Both of you got it backwards. The guy had the firearm first, then opened the door and was able to acknowledged the presence of the police.
It would be impossible for anyone to substantiate with this video that the guy acknowledged police presence first, then grabbed his firearm.
It’s impossible for you to substantiate that as well.. soooo
New method for armed robbery. Bang on the door and announce yourself as police. That way the homeowner wont have a defensive mindset when coming to the door. 😶
I don't believe it's reasonable to believe it would be an armed robber when I have a history of being loud and the cops being called to my place...
@@LegendRonk Not outside the realm of possibilities. The whole point is you're allowed to have a gun in this country. If it was holstered on his hip what would the reaction be? He never gestures with the gun in his hand. It was simply there.
@@LegendRonk First of all, it was all hearsay from a third party. Do you act on information that you receive from a third party without question; I sure don't. I know it was the only information the officer had to go on but he wasn't even given the name of the actual person who reported the dispute; automatically makes the call questionable. That's why you wait for backup; he didn't. He listened into the apartment before knocking and didn't hear any evidence of a disturbance which was supposed to be on-going. There were no exigent circumstances so you wait for your backup before moving forward. He didn't. Nor did he announce himself on the first knock. I understand why the officer moved to the side after knocking but understand if I'm in the apartment, here a knock with no announcement, go to the door, and can't see anyone, I going to a high state of alert.
Second, you are assuming that the Airman provided verbal acknowledgement that there was an officer at his door, Why, because Officer Tatum said so? You looked at the same video I did right? I could not make out the muffled sounds so I don't know exactly what was said, that was just speculation.
But here's what I do know. If you take into account the speed at which the officer shot the Airman, it's obvious that he already un-holstered his gun, had it in his hand and was prepared to fire when he knocked on the door. When the door slowly opened, the officer already had a clear advantage over Fortson who was stepping backwards with the gun pointed down to the ground. The officer could have stepped to the side, shielding himself with the wall, and ordered Fortson to put his weapon down. Or he could have waited for Fortson to attempt to raise his gun before unloading; again the officer had the clear advantage. The only hand Fortson had raised was his left hand with an open palm and spread fingers when the officer put 5 rounds in his chest - center mass. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, then he orders Fortson to drop his weapon.
It’s possible that he heard someone banging on the door but didn’t hear “sheriffs department”
My partner is a police officer. They do not draw their guns out. They just have them in their belt. That's the difference between our cops here in Portugal and cops in America. My parner said he only drew his gun out twice in his career of 13 years as a police officer, and he's never used it. It's so damn sad that it's necessary to have the guns ready for use in America. Although the difference here is that civilians do not own guns. Just guns for hunting. The threat is way lower when someone opens the door. At most, they can get punched or have to get into a brawl with the suspect when they're agitated.
Well here in America these situations can turn deadly in less than a second. You blink and your life can be over... What would you do, given the situation here? You're called to a domestic dispute where a woman may be potentially getting beat on and the man opens the door with a gun in hand
I’ve watched the video. This reminds me of the shooting of Botham Jean. There was NO way this shooting was justified in anyway. This was nothing more than an angry and prejudiced cop with a hair trigger. He needs to be charged with manslaughter at the very least. Not saying it was racial prejudice, though it could be, but definitely he prejudged the situation as a DV incident when there was absolutely nothing but hearsay for him to go by. One would think the lack of yelling and screaming would give the cop pause to consider if what he was told was accurate. He also seemed annoyed from the get go when talking with the apartment manager…like he didn’t have time or patience for nonsense and just wanted to get it over with, no questions asked. Who made the initial complaint to the apartment management office? This seems fishy…almost like a setup.
It was a Hit!!!
Karens SWATted that airman.
That downward-pointing gun was no more of a deadly threat to that officer in that second than the acorn was to that other officer.
You really think opening the door with a firearm was smart? Most reach or run for the pre pew stick. This guy got it IN his hand.
No. Just no. Again, this isn’t the FIRST time they caused issues for neighbors. We get you got money to buy sound proof apartment, but most of us do not. It’s annoying at the least, it could be life threatening at worst. What this cop got called there for, IS the highest percentage of violent outcomes.
I’m not pro or con for police. But this, is too easy to understand.
@@irritatingtruth9121 The world is not dangerous just for cops. It is dangerous for lay people too. So lay people have a right to be armed too. We do not surrender that right just because somebody claiming to be a cop comes a knocking. So I do not expect a lay person to just bend over for a supposed cop.
The airman held a gun. He did not brandish it or waive it around recklessly. He did not point it at the cop. And he certainly didn't fire it.
The cop saw a gun and panicked. He saw a gun being held downward firmly at the ground with a locked out arm, and he panicked. He saw a man armed with a gun in a non-threatening position, and he panicked. He saw a man inside the man's own private premises, and he panicked.
Then he shot the airman--five times.
That is an overreaction. It is overkill.
There was no search or seizure warrant. There were no exigent circumstances. The cop never even witnessed a crime.
Cops shouldn't be homicidal bullies. And citizens shouldn't meekly bow down to them just for existing, wearing a uniform, or knocking on a door.
He was a deputy? Good for him. That didn't entitle him to kill this man.
And neither did the cop's fear.
Deputy should have gotten some counseling for that fear factor, instead of upping his kill count.
It takes less than a second to raise a gun already in hand .. trained officers have a 2-3 sec average draw speed.. you rolling the dice?
@@LegendRonk So, just turn around and present your glory hole to anyone who knocks on your door? I mean, as you say, they'll do it real fast. No harm, no foul. Just let them have at it?
Cops need to get over that fear. If they go to someone's home, the resident controls that scene and situation. The cops are the visitors, and they should act like it. They should not expect the residents to be all meek and timid to make their lives easier. It's not the cop's home!
Yes, stuff can pop off real fast. Look how fast that cop shot this man 5 times and whacked him!
So citizens have just as much grounds to fear the cops.
There needs to be mutual respect in all interactions, and not a one-way relationship of expected subservience.
I've had cops bang on my door twice. They had the wrong house and the wrong guy one time. They accused me of letting my family dog out to harass neighbors, and I pointed out that there was a similar description stray dog behind the cops right then, even while our dog was barking her head off in the back room inside our house. On another occasion, I got wrongly lit up for a supposed lack of a front registration plate and berated when I didn't immediately pull over in an unfamiliar neighborhood, only to show the cop in a public gas station parking lot that I actually had both plates posted and he was talking out his @$$. After I beat a bogus stop sign ticket the cop came to my door to harass me and try to get me to slip up and confess something, even though he conveniently didn't bring any camera footage of the actual traffic stop, and when he failed to get me, I shut the door in his face. So I don't think they're all that. I don't kiss their tails. I don't assume they're in the right. I assume they're bullies with a badge and bullets, until they prove they have a reason to bother me.
And yeah, some of them are faster draws than us.
But there are a lot more of us than there are of them. And they know it too.
How long does it take for that trained airman gun to go from down to up and tables are turned..
Tatum is not an officer.
He was
@@theelement6255
That was in the past.
He is not an officer right now.
@@mindyourbizok hence why I used the word “was”. Past tense, have you heard of it? Is English not your first language? He was; which means he has intimate knowledge of the profession that we don’t have.
@@theelement6255
I stand by my statement.
Brandon Tatum is not an officer anymore.
@@mindyourbizok it’s fine to stand by an irrelevant statement.
How was he beating his girlfriend through the phone?
How would the cop know he was on the phone behind the door?
@@LegendRonkeasy, by investigating the situation like he was trained to do.
damn can defend the country but not your self.
2A dont apply if you black apparently.
Who loves Van? I do.
And we all been on argument on the phone that can resemble a in person altercation.
And we can all argue in our homes loudly. And that's all it will ever be to most people.
Sorry but not in nice neighborhoods people call the police on lowlifes screaming how they will hurt people on the phone that is normal where peaceful people live. I have been that lowlife and at some point you need to take accountability for your demeanor
@thebridge6967 I believe that you only owe not yelling to people that deserve it. Your family can have idiots in it that need to be yelled at. Lowlifes go into physical. I just said how people argue. It's common sense. And it happens. If it's daily, that is different. If it's physical, that is different.
@@thebridge6967 you assume he is a low life.
What if it is his gf that instigates the fight.and screams. Because it is not her house.doesnt mean he got physical.
But women now a days are the aggressors.
And you have to admit there are alot of nosy neighbors. That start stuff all the time . Not saying that is what happened but be honest enough to know you don't know either. And it is his life that was lost.
Not the girlfriend.
@@thebridge6967Well, I guess we don't have to worry anymore. The cops killed this supposed "lowlife", so you can smile and thank God for another wonderful blessing in your life.
that is one killer cop talking shit
i don’t believe he knew it was the sheriffs office.
It takes a split second for someone who already has the gun in his hand to kill you, what would you do if your life was on the line? While I'm telling this guy to put the gun down I'm already hit and on my way to eternity, are you willing to take that chance? I'm not, and neither are you.
Reasons why you should never ever own a hun nor become a cop smfh at you
If you take into account the speed at which the officer shot the Airman, it's obvious that he already un-holstered his gun, had it in his hand and was prepared to fire when he knocked on the door. So when you say it takes a split second for someone who already has the gun in his hand to kill you, you must be referring to the Officer.
Because when the door slowly opened, the officer already had a clear advantage over Fortson who was stepping backwards with the gun pointed down to the ground and his finger off the trigger. The officer could have stepped to the side to be shielded by the wall and ordered Fortson to put his weapon down. Or he could have waited for Fortson to attempt to raise his gun before unloading; he had the clear advantage. The only hand Fortson had raised was his left hand with an open palm and spread fingers indicating please don't shoot before the officer put 5 rounds in his chest, center mass. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, then he orders Fortson to drop his weapon.
@@kevinm1773wrong. You can hear him unholster the weapon
Who told you all he knew it was the police know where in this video does it say nor do we hear anything from this young man you also left out the part when the officer knocked then didn’t say anything and it’s not against law to open door with a gun and this the same department that shot up a cop car over a acorn smh seem like they all scared
He is breaking it down for what he is seeing and hearing
Which is always biased no matter what the facts are. Not like info additional info isnt available.
Van this is one of the first things I learned when I got my learners permit
Exactly 100 percent opposite of what this guy did
It’s basic gun safety 101
This guy knew exactly what he was doing
I want to uncover his mental health records
Cops, Tatum, whoever can spin it however they choose but the man was NOT in a domestic disturbance situation, he was alone, he’s allowed to have a gun and he’s allowed to answer his door with it ( pointed to ground ) and he was flat out murdered in his doorway because of the blue line officer safety culture that is terrorizing citizens.
"blue line officer safety culture TERRORIZING CITIZENS"?? Citizens are being terrorized by police? Cuz it seems police are being killed by citizens...
This the same dumb shit he did when he defended the uvalde cops
Did you actually watch anything he said
I have heard kids and adults playing video games cussing and calling each other names doesn’t really mean it’s violent.
This is another case of a Karen sticking her nose in other people's business. This time it got someone killed.
To be fair, how long have people been indoctrinated with if you see something, say something.
Yea more like a case of a bad neighbor who has no home training
So you’re saying you wouldn’t call the police if you hear a woman being beat.
Good to know.
@jjc5871 she didn't hear that, because he was home alone
@racer7452 simple stop yelling at people and people won't think your yelling at people.
There was NO domestic disturbance at that apartment on that day or any previous day. The victim was the only person in the apartment. The girlfriend lives in Georgia, and she was rarely even at the apartment. Ironically, a neighboring apartment on the same floor has had many, many complaints for loud arguments and domestic violence over the past few months. The individuals who called in the complaints didn't have their facts straight, which derailed the fiasco train from the start...
Consciousness of guilt “drop your weapon” AFTER he shot him 5 times.
Police officers are trained to not stand directly in front of the doorway for safety purposes in case the person behind the door has a firearm and fires it through the door. That makes perfect sense. The officer is not required to announce himself before knocking or show himself through the peephole.
The officer is not required to show himself through the peephole, but by Law, they are absolutely required to announce themself (in or out of uniform) . Florida Statue 933.09 "Florida's Knock-and-Announce Statue".
And the person in his own apartment has the right to defend his territory. It's his home. He is at home.
Theres a lot of assumptions that the victim heard the announcement of "Sheriffs office open the door". He likely heard the first knock, didnt see anyone, and went back for his weapon. The victim held up his other hand in a defensive way while keeping his weapon pointed down by his side... not justified. Bad reaction by the cop.
NO, NO, NO, This lady is providing fourth handed info! ! !
The officer failed to announce himself, hes suppose to announce himself while knocking you just dont knock and stay quiet
I didn't appreciate how you dismissed that he previously abused a woman as if that was not as of importance.
That cop don't care about objectively
He didnt even have a search warrant
Officer Tatum probably did not break down the actual shooting and commands because he said earlier in his video that he would not show that part of the body cam footage due to UA-cam reasons. I don't think it was an oversight or that he was intentionally avoiding that part of the sheriff's action to avoid criticizing the sheriff. He was just operating within the youtube boundaries.
But, that's just my opinion. Thanks for the questions. Truth is essential and I appreciate you seeking it.
Have 2 questions.
1) in what way did he acknowledge it was a deputy at the door?
2) if he was playing video games, as said. And face timing with his boo. How do we know if he heard any else besides the banging on the door?
14:39 you can hear Roger say “Who is it?” And no response… I can hear it perfectly, I know the deputy heard it, and I know whoever wrote these subtitles did too..
Wait just because someone yell’s sheriff office that means they are??? Then steps to the side.
Moves to the side of the door for safety reasons. Should never stand in front of a door
The officer going by himself even though that is ill-advised also speaks to the officers illogical decision making
TAP DANCING TATUM is AT IT AGAIN!!!!
If you feel that you need to have a gun to answer the door because of some unknown threat....DO NOT OPEN THE DOOR.
I'm not super down on this cop, I get his actions, but if your logic holds does it seem just as reasonable to not knock on the door if you feel like you need a gun to defend against an unknown threat? I don't think that makes sense in either direction.
@@jracee1 Could you rephrase that?
@@jracee1the cop did not have his gun out until he saw the guy with a gun in his hand
@@LegendRonkso the cop retrieved the gun from his holster that quick? the guy in the apartment already had his hand up as if he knew he was about to get shot.
Before he knock he wanted to hear if there was any commotion going on
The big question is, was there any commotion?
This breaks my heart, no one needed to die here. This entire situation on both sides was handled poorly. Although it is legal to answer you door with a firearm at your side (I wouldn't, but it's not illegal) that officer in my opinion did not use his tactics, he seemed high strung knocking on the door. I dunno, this whole situation is heartbreaking.
The apartment employee that called also knows the apartment number on the forth floor that’s cops responded to 6 times for domestic violence and knew it wasn’t the poor airman’s apartment number she’s guilty also and the cops hand looks colored when knocking
Cop is in the wrong shooting first and not saying anything smfh
My cousin was a sheriff and he told me that. Other things in this case are a bit foggy to me still. Let's see what happens in the video.
This was plain out murder by the cop
Cops don't know what is behind that door. So he didn't know what to expect. There is no time for pleasantries when someone comes to the door with a gun in his hand. No time!
Why is he assuming that he was acknowledging that he knew it was the police. This guy was active duty military trained to use his fire arm. He wasnt an idiot! The officer never stood in line of site so he could se who it was on the other side of the door. I would have grabbed my weapon also and not opened the door until I saw ID and ofcourse holstered/ concealed weapon prior to opening door.
Is it legal for a private citizen to shoot someone simply holding a firearm?...
How do you know he HEARD " Sheriff's office"?? How do you KNOW the inaudible sounds came from that apartment.
What girl Tatum??? Wasn't he on FaceTime? You can handle a virtual girl now?
That me explain to you what happened. First of all, understand this a special force airman, so he is used to having a gun in his hand. 2nd, the officer first knocked on the door but never announced himself . Two times. Airman looked through his peep hole and, at that point, got his gun. What failed to realize is that the officer never showed himself for the airman to see. Now you got somebody at your door that knocked two times but never said anything. Then he knocked again and said he was with the sheriff's office but still dont show himself. Which made the airman suspicious. End the once the airman realized that it really was a sheriff officer, he started complying. The reason it's a bad shoot is that once the officer raised his gun when he saw the airman with a gun, he should have commanded the airman to drop the gun. The officer already had the advantage with his gun aim at the airman, and the airman gun is by his side. He chose to unload on him 6 times. Then tell him after he shot him to drop the gun. He never gave the airman a chance. I serve in the Marines, and we never shot this quick, just a person having a gun. This officer should be fired and charge.
I saw an eerily similar video where a white dude was shot in the back while he was trying to put his firearm down after answering 2 cops who knocked and ducked out of line of sight on peephole. he was playing games with his girlfriend. it was a noise complaint. shooting officer panicked and immediately opened fire even though weapon was pointed down and guy was attempting to comply.
I’m sorry but police are not military in an insurgency, they are trained to pull that trigger way too quickly.
...if the woman is a leasing agent, why would she not know the exact apartment...why she didnt knock on the door to make sure of altercation...it just does not make sense.
In the original video the leasing agent said they didn't know which apartment twice. But officer Tatum cut that audio twice
Exactly.
Officers are trained to avoid standing in the fatal funnel area and to emphasize the importance of having a backup partner. The Florida Castle Doctrine allows individuals to use force, including deadly force, to defend themselves against intruders in their home, vehicle, or any other place where they have a legal right to be, aiming to provide clear protections for self-defense.
In the incident described, when the door was opened, the individual had the gun pointed down and raised his left hand to signal recognition of the Deputy. Answering the door with a gun can be a reasonable precaution if there is uncertainty about the visitor's identity. The Deputy asked him to step out, but the sheriff has not clarified how they confirmed they were at the correct apartment, even though the individual was on FaceTime with his girlfriend at the time. Deputies are allowed to use deadly force if they reasonably feel their life is in danger. However, the deputy should have obtained background information from dispatch to verify if they had previously been to that apartment. Relying solely on information from a complainant is insufficient; officers need to conduct their own investigation.
Additionally, the complainant claims about hearing a "slap" sound or what appeared to be an argument weeks ago is questionable and if it was a serious concern, a call to the police should have been made immediately and could have been anonymous. The deputy’s reaction appeared to be an overreaction out of fear.