The videos at the end of the day were so shocking and upsetting I wish I could unwatch them. She tormented him literally to death. I hope the jury agrees.
Guilty. The last two videos shown in court sealed it for me today. Before them I was still completely open to a not guilty or lesser charge. Not anymore. I don’t see how the jury wouldn’t feel the same. Heartbreaking. After seeing the last two videos how could anyone think Sarah was scared of Jorge. You don’t antagonize and berate an abuser. You don’t coach an abuser to lie for you in court. Sarah Boone is the abuser.
The videos of Jorge humanized him for me. As an abuse victim, I could feel how beaten down he was. He looked broken in a couple 😢 Then he was trying to be cheerful towards her on the back porch one where she was so nasty towards him. (And she said AGAIN, "That's my name! Don't wear it out!" 🤮) I remember those days!! HE was trying to avoid setting HER off. Jorge definitely was the abused one. I was telling my husband and started crying. So sad.
I agree a thousand percent honey I cried also my husband does the video taping to me an I felt it in my bones how he curled up on the floor every time! She’s so manipulative
Yup. I don't believe for a SECOND that she was scared of him. Not after those videos. It was chilling seeing him so clearly afraid of her and walking on eggshells.
I think the videos the state ended with today are their strongest argument against her defense. George seemed genuinely afraid of her in some of them and she seemed like she was egging him on, trying to get him to hit her, where she did not appear afraid of him in anyway. I mean, there's a video where she's literally coaching him on what to say to her out of a DV charge. Those videos made me think that maybe he was the one suffering from BSS and that any violence he engaged in was because of that (which the state seems to have been implying).
Idk. To me the videos only showed there is a long and documented history of dv between the two. If I didn't know better I would've thought it was part of the defense
@MrMancreatedgod What? It is proof she wasn't in fear of him. It was proof that she pushed him into reacting. The defenses whole argument is that Sarah is horrified of Jorge hurting her but she was more than happy to berate him daily? Wake him up and shit talk him?
Jorge seems to be a clear cut case of reactive abuse, people who are abused and controlled will lash out against their aggressor, and often times the abuser will use that to further control their victim. Which is what Sarah did, she documented those events and injuries, she called the cops on him, and the one time she was charged for abuse (she was choking Jorge when he kicked her off of him) she then coached him and forced him to tell the Judge to drop the charges against her. They mentioned it in the Depp trial too, I think Sarah is the proactive abuser and Jorge was a reactive abuser.
@@boanoah6362 Agree fully. I also think that she used the cops to punish him or teach him a lesson when he wasn’t doing what she wanted him to do. It was about control.
There was something that stood out to me as a DV survivor. That she said how afraid she was of him, always in fear but then also when they were talking about the fact only she has keys to her house, and Jorge not having them. Her response almost immediately was “Jorge would NEVER break into my house”, now I know I was always in fear of my ex coming over or even just running into him. Then next minute she’s on 54 videos calling the police on him for B&E. She can’t pick a lane for her defence.
Because she has no lane. She is truly indefensible. I can't believe Owens thinks he can continue with this charade of a defense now. She is absolutely the abuser!! And such a manipulator!! She was calling him despicable. SHE'S the despicable one!! Also... it was so impactful that he just played all the videos... without even describing anything. Just led us down the Sarah path that she created herself with those videos.
Peter, the cop was actually yelling at Sarah because she was yelling from across the parking lot, he was telling her that she was interrupting. I was crying by the end of the videos with Jorge. 😢
I dont think that was very clear in the redacted video shown today. I saw the whole video last night where you can hear her yelling at the cop before he yalls back at her.
@@LilTex0825after watching these videos, that seems a lot more realistic. Poor Jorge. I think he never had a chance. I think this was inevitable. 😢 Think she stabbed herself in her leg?!?
Its so very sad that Jorge said he loved her to death... that hit hard. 😢 Also, the Psychiatrist DID say how she felt about PTSD in her depo... she said that Sarah didn't meet the criteria. As someone who works in mental health, she clearly gave her opinion and hid nothing. The problem is both sides (and the Judge) have 0 clue about the DSM. This afternoon was utterly painful to watch, I'm glad I tuned in tonight and watched at double speed.
I never believed the hide and seek. After watching the videos of Jorge, my belief is she forced him into the case and then filmed it. Just like all those other videos. Then she fell asleep because she was drunk. It was intentional she put him in there. Likely accidental he died. He was truly a victim in this case.
I don't know about premeditated... why should she want to kill her abuse toy?? She obviously got off on the control and power she had over him. She probably rewatched those videos to relish the abuse.
Sarah used the police when she supposedly felt threatened..why didn't she call police and leave apartment instead of poking him with the bat and leaving him?
Didn’t need to. She knew he was stuck in a suitcase. Heres some questions: why didn’t she say in the video she knew he couldn’t breathe and wanted him to die? When he said he couldn’t breathe how come she didn’t say: I know that’s why I’m not letting you out? Why was she so unprepared the next day if she knowingly killed him? Why didn’t she make preparations to get rid of the body? Why didn’t she beat the suitcase like a piñata? Why didn’t he die from blunt force trauma instead of positional asphyxiation? Why isn’t there any actual evidence on video that he could not breathe? What proof do you have He did not tell her: b*tch as soon as I get out of here I’m gonna ring your neck? Why was a grown man unable to get himself out of a suitcase once she went upstairs?
And what are you implying then about the times she did call the police? She wasn’t in fear then either huh? Just admit you watched the videos that the state leaked to the media and they worked in convincing you there is nothing anyone can say or do to change your opinion
She encouraged him to call his daughters while drinking. Is for one reason and one reason only. She wanted the daughters to know what was going on. Get people to not like him. She wants him to tell the brother how he pulled her down the stairs. I bet you she took what she did to him in that suitcase and turned that story to benefit her. When telling the cops. Narcissist
@1Life2Live007 It is my very firm belief that this was premeditated murder, that the suitcase was the transportation for the body, the phone calls were to "prove" that he was alive while in his presence, and the phone call to her ex-husband was because she was probably going to load up the suitcase with his dead body in it and have him drive her some place saying that she had an argument with Jorge at which time she would have disposed of Jorge's body. I 100% totally and completely believe this was premeditated right down to the suitcase being the tool to transport his dead body in. She was highly disappointed when the ex-husband hung up on her and, feeling defeated, probably didn't even sleep that night but spent trying to plan what she could possibly come up with. I believe that when she called her ex-husband that Jorge was already dead. I believe that she beat AND suffocated him to death. Remember, when he was begging to be let out because he couldn't breathe, he was not saying that his hands were hurting or broken. She did that to make him shut up. This was absolutely premeditated first degree murder. ABSOLUTELY
@@MrMancreatedgodthat's not the point. At all. Nobody said Jorge was a saint or any of those things. I'd love to hear how he deserved what he got. She had 10000 other options. I say that as a DV survivor. She's appalling.
@@MrMancreatedgod Jorge wasn't a great guy, but he was abused and controlled, she held all the power in that relationship and routinely used the law to further abuse him, he did not deserve a slow agonizing death begging for help with the taste of blood in his mouth.
Can the judge make an upwards departure on sentencing? I mean this man was tortured not only in these minutes he was slowly dying but in the years leading up to. I cried watching those videos. He was a good man with a serious drinking problem. I bet you all her injuries were merely drunken accidents. Even in one of the videos he said "I never did anything to you" and she answered "yet". To what he said "never will". Poor man
As the Prosecutor said at the start Sarah was committing multiple felonies when Jorge died. That's murder 2. Murder 2 in Florida includes a max of life in prison. I'm only kidding when I say the jury should come back with a conviction for a "Greater Not Included Charge" of Murder 1. The judge CAN give her life.
Peter I was not swayed, No one deserves to die inside a suit case. Even drunk drivers are punished for drunk driving and injuring or killing people. If you can't handle the drink you should not drink and to act this way for two 40 yr. olds is devastating. I feel sorry for all involved but these were adults they had called the police numerous times. They were both a menace to society. They both should have joined AA before it got to this. They had to know they both had a problem with alchohol.
Peter I watched a lot of the case until the early hours of the morning here in Australia. It was a WILD day, but eventually fell asleep so didnt see the last lot of videos etc. Thank you so much for daily summaries, explanatians etc. So appreciate and thoroughly enjoy your channel. Blessings to you and yours
But she remembers him threatening her and getting his hand out, remember? Why does anyone believe anything that comes out of that despicable creature’s mouth? I don’t get it. She lies. She literally lies all the time, constantly. She destroys her own lies within minutes of them by lying about something else. What we know about that night is she videotaped herself mocking a trapped and suffering man who died. That is what should be believed.
I actually liked that the expert didn't get bogged down, she focused on Sarah's actual testimony of the events and her medical records. It was very concise and simple, 'Sarah said X happened and X doesn't meet any requirements of battered spouse involvement', boom, easy peasy. Also her statement wasn't "Sarah wasn't in imminent danger" it was "As Sarah described it nothing in her testimony would flag/indicate a battered spouse response", aka there was no build up, there was no fear response, there was no altercation or argument. By her own admission what she did wasn't because of any battered spouse symptoms or triggers so it doesn't apply to the events as described.
@@MrMancreatedgod No you're misunderstanding, Sarah does meet the criteria of battered spouse, what happened does not indicate the involvement of battered spouse. Aka you can have schizophrenia and if you commit a crime independent of your schizophrenia then it doesn't matter, there's no involvement between the mental illness and the crime.
All the videos made my heart break for Jorge. He was the one that just wanted to appease her. Those videos proved that she was more of the abuser than he was and that she used the cops as her own personal guards. She thought everyone would believe the pretty white woman. Most of her injuries in photos looked like the alcoholics in my life because they are always hurting themselves. The black eye was entirely fake...bruises have splotches not just a solid black, you should see swelling, cuts, busted capillaries, something besides what just looked like black eye shadow. I have seen more damage from a girl's punch and she claimed he stomped her? Also, speaks volumes that the friends telling her to leave Jorge are no where in sight now. When someone does something so heinous you tend to stop lying to yourself about their character.
3 points i thought after watching the videos. 1. For me its clear who the person in charge was. SB. She treated him like a kid. 2. I became inclined to believe that his death was either premeditated or she knew she could kill him at some point. Why would you get so much evidence? Unless you wanted to use it for something. 3. She calling the police was the same as some couples use "divorce" as a threat
I think she collected her 'evidence' to control Jorge further, painting him as an abusive mentally challenged loser she was caring for 'like an angel' ties perfectly into her need to keep Jorge where she wants him.
The extent to which she treated him like a child was disturbing. I get the feeling she would tell Jorge he could stay at the apartment and then she would call the cops on him. Maybe she didn’t directly tell him to stay there, but even leaving the extra key in their hiding spot that he knows about, is at least signaling that she isn’t afraid of him being in the apartment.
@@debs-101 That's literally what she did, one of those videos covers 2 incidents in a single day where she called him over, then called the cops to report him. He was escorted out by cops, then she called him back AGAIN and then called the cops once more to have him removed AGAIN.
I called it from the beginning. Now the videos show exactly who the real victim was and it’s not her. It’s really sad because there was really a need for mental help on both sides. What a toxic relationship.
My grandmother said the truth always comes out in the wash. Sarah's wash is done. I can't stress it enough. If you're in a relationship like this reach out for help and LEAVE. This is ultimately how it ends.
Here’s something… she said they cleaned up. Why was her son’s baseball out just conveniently right by the suitcase? If they deep cleaned like she said for up to 3 hours, don’t you think she would’ve put it away in her son’s room? I’m shocked no one thought this was odd and asked her “where does the baseball bat normally go?” SB-“my son’s room”, “oh, so how did the bar end up conveniently right next to the suitcase?” I think she got the baseball bag. I really think she was alcohol mad & got the bat.
The videos did it for me from the beginning just like in the Murdaugh trial. When you have video it's the most damning evidence in my opinion. They are more often than not hard to watch but absolutely and incredibly effective in telling the story, solidifying the state's case and bringing home a conviction. Jorge isn't here and as much as it could be that he was just as toxic and abusive I feel like justice will be served because nobody deserves what happened to him no matter what. Taking someone's life other than for self defense isn't right and a crime that should always result in a conviction. I'm a victim of DV for five years and almost lost my life but nothing he did ever made me think of ending his life.
Can’t remember if I already made a similar comment, but thank you for everything you do Peter! I am a 3L and watching your channel has been enormously helpful during my law school journey.
Jorge was finally able to speak and I wish I could wipe the videos from my mind but it truly was heartbreaking!! May he eternally RIP and prayers to his loved ones… 💔🥲🕊
I have to be very honest. I think you give too much credit to the defense, Peter. You are hyper critical of prosecutors but hold water for everything Owens does.
The judge excused 8 attorneys, her story changed yet he was hellbent on no further delays. No surprises about the errors. I’m sure that Sarah was not an easy person to assess.
My niece and her husband are drug addicts and mutual batterers. This cycle is so common. Depending on who you tend to sympathize with is the lens you hold. Both SB and JT were a hot mess. Men don't usually report DV to hold against their woman, but it happens. Both were toxic to each other.
The psychiatrist is not offering an opinion that Jorge is an imminent threat. She is offering the opinion that Sarah did not perceive Jorge as an imminent threat because Sarah said her state of mind was that they were laughing and playing
I ❤ KYN but have to admit I think he's wrong about the Psychiatrist's testimony today. She was being as honest as she possibly could be without showing prejudice in either direction. The only reason that she was giving off somebody language was because she was exasperated, as we ALL were, with Owens. I wanted to scream at Owens, "do you have a hearing deficiency or is your short-term memory shot as well?". He kept asking the same question expecting a different answer.
LYK explains it well. It is NOT her job to decide innocence or guilt about Sarah's actions. She's there to give INFO ONLY on diagnosis and and what she "had". Btw, she *definitely* showed bias! I was loving what she said until Peter set me straight by explaining what a psychologist/psychiatrist expert's JOB ACTUALLY IS in the courtroom. JURY decides from their info
Psychologist reminds me of a very bad experience many years ago.got an appt to one,after few minutes of talking,I realized this psychologist is snoring,actually I made him sleep. I walked out and the secretary asked me if I want to make a f/u and I said you have to ask the psychologist,btw he fell asleep wait till he woke up. I left that office never to come back ever again to anyone.
I think when they got drunk and he crashed she got pissed! Party over - get the f up or I’m calling the police! He was out 3 times she called! They had to wake him up off the couch! She’s a menace and 100% GUILTY!
Peter, love your analysis. But how do you get to the conclusion of Kraynick "siding with Owens" with the response...."RESPECTFULLY." Even I flinched at that.
After Owens did the repeated questioning style "does an abuser sometimes" kick, punch, withhold items, isolate from friends, etc etc...and Warner repeated "they may, they may" I wish on redirect Jay repeated that line of questioning and asked one more, "does an abuser sometimes zip and control victim in a suitcase while videotaping calls for help?" they may....
31:02 respectfully I think Owen’s asking vague questions was too much! For example he should say are there any thoughts about X. X being whatever is relevant. How would an expert know what he is looking for. I think he was WAY too aggressive with her!
Peter how dare you want Sarah to get a fair trial and have effective counsel? Shame on you for not slanting every piece of evidence in favor of the state. How could you dare to have mercy in your heart even for those accused of horrible crimes?
I actually really like Owens. In my opinion he signed up to help her because he truly believed she needed a lawyer and quickly realized it was a terrible idea. He is in a crap situation but he is trying. I hope he does his best and Sarah is convicted on the evidence.
45:39 respectfully because I think the world of you she did say that she did not diagnose her with PTSD because she did not get enough information from her, and she said it differently than she said it in the deposition, but it was the same thing. I listen to it four times. And the judge ended up, saying that he sided with them out of an abundance of caution, which I agree with completely.
Peter i love how you explained today in court. I believe it shouldn’t matter who the défendant is. The law is the law. I think it does affect the defences case. Not being able to prepare like you explained.
Ambiguous questions/statements drives my autistic mind nuts. I will literally shut down wracking my brain on where to even start with an answer or understand the statement. Same reason why I don't use the American 12-hour (See you at 8! 8am or 8pm?!?!).
I wish I could unsee and unhear the absolutely evil sadistic torture that Jorge had to endure up to the point of his leaving this world. Jorge the hand of God took you from that suitcase at some point during your suffering. His mighty hands will not let harm come to you ever again. Rest in peace Jorge Torres, we now know your truth. My heart breaks for you and what your last moments must have been.
So the defense proposes that Boone abused her partner, (which led to his death) because he had previously abused her. Then it logically follows that her partner previously abused Boone, because HE himself was being abused by her. Or does the defense argument hold only if the victim is female.
The videos show it all. The way she talked to.Jorge, she made him mad. He seems he was a nice person he just drank to much. Both of them did. Crazy drunk. She called the cops so if something did happen it would saw Jorge always going to jail. TV smash they did that together. I guess it was broke. So they smashed it. She yelled at accused him for taking her keys all the time. She was awful to him. He did not deserve to die or die like that. She knew he was in suit case. As smart she think she should of known he would die. He was telling her over and over he could not breath. She.killed him
around 0:32:00 how the hell does she answer that? he is asking WAY too broad questions, like "what opinions may you potentially tell the jury?" ask SPECIFICS, that's why she is a BIT snarky back at him bc he is asking nothing
Um..um...um.. this first witness was driving me crazy with saying um every few seconds. If we took a drink everytime she says um, we'd all be drunk lol
I think the Psychiatrist was basing her opinion on Sarah’s lack of anxiety- calm & upbeat interpretation was what she based her opinion on. Behavioral health decisions are based on behaviors& how people feel - Sarah didn’t speak of any fear , anxiety during the day - so I think the Psychiatrist was interpreting this. I would have loved to hear the prosecutor ask her about memory - black outs and drinking. I think Sarah was potentially in a black out and didn’t remember making the videos and her explanation - narrative of the evening was a lie.
Nurse Here: In defense of the psychiatrist expert witness: it would be really difficult to quantify all of the conditions that a perspn DOESNT have or that you dont suspect. Usually you only suspect a few things, but there are hundreds of other conditions that you dont suspect for one reason or the other. I dont think she did a good job of explaining that.
This is why I think the syringe is significant. I think he tricked Sarah into playing hide and seek so he could pack a suitcase with his belongings without her seeing. He accidentally dropped the suitcase down the stairs and Sarah heard it while hiding. He grabbed his papers and his syringe to pack and Sarah found him and shoved him in the suitcase to teach him a lesson. Then she passed out.
personally i was so nervous during the testimony of this expert, her way of doing things seems so scummy and she really needs to learn to control her facial expressions. the whole situation was extremely off-putting and it felt to me like we were 2 seconds away from her saying something that would create a major legal issue
Not once in those videos did I see Stress, Anxiety, Fear, or Helplessness from Sarah if anything she was enjoying the police officers attention. I saw more Stress, Confusion and Anxiety in Jorge. The jury must be rolling their eyes Dizzy at Sarah Boone.🙄🙄😵💫😵💫
42:32 DEPOSITION MID TRIAL: I agree with Peter on Owen’s fumbling away some of the knowledge gained through the depo and how the depo itself looked much better for the defense vs what was presented in front of the jury. IMO, I’m finding that to be a common theme in many trials I’ve seen lately. Oftentimes, experts opinions are formulated and presented much clearer during depo to where it bodes well for one side or the other, but when testifying in front of the jury it falls flat. I believe that happened with the crash daddy experts and cellebrite experts for defense in the KR trial. Additionally, I believe that makes it harder for us “couch jurors” streaming the trial to remain as unbiased as the actual jury members who aren’t privy to everything we are seeing. As someone streaming the trial and often feeling very strongly one way or the other by a certain point in trial, it becomes harder and harder to separate knowledge gained in jury view vs that gained during attorney arguments etc. Btw- I couldn’t help myself but to hear Jackson or Yanetti’s voice in my head saying a sarcastic retort when the psychiatrist claimed Boone didn’t provide any additional information when asked the same blanket question that she herself continues to refuse to answer 🤣 I don’t believe they would’ve been able to keep from verbalizing the irony lol!!
Peter what I really think is Sarah was upset after the call from Jorges brother telling her to say away from his kids, nieces and nephews. Plus her and Jorge could no longer attend Jorge's family functions.
Does anyone know toxicology report during autopsy? Did George have benzos as well as alcohol in his system ? If so, couldn't it be assumed that he used valium while inside suitcase - therefore causing his own death ? Alcohol & benzos are a lethal combination.
There are not 2 silver pulls with pink paper clip on top of suitcase in the video.I can see the silver pulls in court room image of the suitcase easily. I also can not move my arms in the 9 inch deep suitcase. My forearms are pinned down by my legs so I can not move my arms much because of the bent position. They made her show them position and pulls for a reason.
I cant stand when some of those in the live chat say that they are DV survivors and because they wouldnt do something means its impossible for all DV survivors to do something. Im a DV survivor, but who am i to say to another DV survivor wouldnt do something just cause I wouldn't. Its the definition of narcissistic.
The videos at the end of the day were so shocking and upsetting I wish I could unwatch them. She tormented him literally to death. I hope the jury agrees.
Neither expert impressed me. The videos form Sarah’s phone sealed it for me. Jorge was the one abused.
Guilty. The last two videos shown in court sealed it for me today. Before them I was still completely open to a not guilty or lesser charge. Not anymore. I don’t see how the jury wouldn’t feel the same. Heartbreaking. After seeing the last two videos how could anyone think Sarah was scared of Jorge. You don’t antagonize and berate an abuser. You don’t coach an abuser to lie for you in court. Sarah Boone is the abuser.
Absolutel agree!!!, Sarah Boone IS the abuser.
The videos of Jorge humanized him for me. As an abuse victim, I could feel how beaten down he was. He looked broken in a couple 😢
Then he was trying to be cheerful towards her on the back porch one where she was so nasty towards him. (And she said AGAIN, "That's my name! Don't wear it out!" 🤮) I remember those days!! HE was trying to avoid setting HER off.
Jorge definitely was the abused one. I was telling my husband and started crying. So sad.
I agree a thousand percent honey I cried also my husband does the video taping to me an I felt it in my bones how he curled up on the floor every time! She’s so manipulative
I was very sympathetic to Jorge after watching the videos. Sarah never seems afraid. 😒🥀
Yup. I don't believe for a SECOND that she was scared of him. Not after those videos. It was chilling seeing him so clearly afraid of her and walking on eggshells.
The videos Sarah took of Jorge show that she’s clearly the abuser. They are horrific.
I think the videos the state ended with today are their strongest argument against her defense. George seemed genuinely afraid of her in some of them and she seemed like she was egging him on, trying to get him to hit her, where she did not appear afraid of him in anyway. I mean, there's a video where she's literally coaching him on what to say to her out of a DV charge. Those videos made me think that maybe he was the one suffering from BSS and that any violence he engaged in was because of that (which the state seems to have been implying).
Idk. To me the videos only showed there is a long and documented history of dv between the two. If I didn't know better I would've thought it was part of the defense
@MrMancreatedgod What? It is proof she wasn't in fear of him. It was proof that she pushed him into reacting. The defenses whole argument is that Sarah is horrified of Jorge hurting her but she was more than happy to berate him daily? Wake him up and shit talk him?
@@H.P.93 100% agree. There was no way she was scared of him. You don’t berate and antagonize your abuser. She was the abuser.
Jorge seems to be a clear cut case of reactive abuse, people who are abused and controlled will lash out against their aggressor, and often times the abuser will use that to further control their victim. Which is what Sarah did, she documented those events and injuries, she called the cops on him, and the one time she was charged for abuse (she was choking Jorge when he kicked her off of him) she then coached him and forced him to tell the Judge to drop the charges against her.
They mentioned it in the Depp trial too, I think Sarah is the proactive abuser and Jorge was a reactive abuser.
@@boanoah6362 Agree fully. I also think that she used the cops to punish him or teach him a lesson when he wasn’t doing what she wanted him to do. It was about control.
There was something that stood out to me as a DV survivor. That she said how afraid she was of him, always in fear but then also when they were talking about the fact only she has keys to her house, and Jorge not having them. Her response almost immediately was “Jorge would NEVER break into my house”, now I know I was always in fear of my ex coming over or even just running into him. Then next minute she’s on 54 videos calling the police on him for B&E. She can’t pick a lane for her defence.
Because she has no lane. She is truly indefensible. I can't believe Owens thinks he can continue with this charade of a defense now.
She is absolutely the abuser!! And such a manipulator!! She was calling him despicable. SHE'S the despicable one!!
Also... it was so impactful that he just played all the videos... without even describing anything. Just led us down the Sarah path that she created herself with those videos.
Peter, the cop was actually yelling at Sarah because she was yelling from across the parking lot, he was telling her that she was interrupting.
I was crying by the end of the videos with Jorge. 😢
Today was truly heartbreaking with those videos.
So was I!
I dont think that was very clear in the redacted video shown today. I saw the whole video last night where you can hear her yelling at the cop before he yalls back at her.
@@Murkikins gotcha!
Me too. We see you Jorge. Justice for Jorge.
Peter, the discovery violation pales in comparison with the videos at the end.
I'm in shock. And sickened.
The only one who ambushed Owens was Sarah Boone!! Justice for Jorge!!
Time served. Don't face stomp your gf. Don't lay hands on your gf. EVER
@@MrMancreatedgodBruv.
@@MrMancreatedgodthat’s her explanation. I heard she was scratching and choking him & he kicked her off him.
@@LilTex0825after watching these videos, that seems a lot more realistic. Poor Jorge. I think he never had a chance. I think this was inevitable. 😢
Think she stabbed herself in her leg?!?
@@feliciagaffney1998 I wondered about that.
As soon as they started this morning I was like 😮I can't wait to hear what Peter says!
@@Classifiedgatorfan same!!!
Same!
when mr J said "i think 99% of attorneys would agree" i immediately thought of Peter and suspected he would disagree 😂
Its so very sad that Jorge said he loved her to death... that hit hard. 😢
Also, the Psychiatrist DID say how she felt about PTSD in her depo... she said that Sarah didn't meet the criteria. As someone who works in mental health, she clearly gave her opinion and hid nothing. The problem is both sides (and the Judge) have 0 clue about the DSM. This afternoon was utterly painful to watch, I'm glad I tuned in tonight and watched at double speed.
my heart dropped at that 💔
She is telling Amber Heards abuse story's.
I heard that and it broke me
I don't think the judge agrees with Owens so much as he's bending over backward in order to avoid a mistrial or appellate issues.
100%
I agree thank god to because she better get locked up for the next 50+ yrs
I never believed the hide and seek. After watching the videos of Jorge, my belief is she forced him into the case and then filmed it. Just like all those other videos. Then she fell asleep because she was drunk. It was intentional she put him in there. Likely accidental he died. He was truly a victim in this case.
She ordered him in there and he did it because she had broken him.
Damn this is sad. I’ve now decided it was premeditated. That’s why she wanted him to call his family. She knew.
….oh. oh noooo, you could be right 😳
Agreed!
I don't know about premeditated... why should she want to kill her abuse toy?? She obviously got off on the control and power she had over him. She probably rewatched those videos to relish the abuse.
My favorite phrase “what’s up everybody” the tone is everything 😂❤
WHAT'S. 🧢 UP. 👨🏽⚖️ EVERYBODY!
I say it out loud every video w Peter & my hubby cracks up. And he knows I’m all done when I say “I. Am. Outta. Here. “ 😂
@@sharonostrowsky37 love that
I take it as "What's up every buddy?" Like we are all friends ❤
Sarah used the police when she supposedly felt threatened..why didn't she call police and leave apartment instead of poking him with the bat and leaving him?
“Poking”
“She always does this like ‘boy who cried wolf’ kind of thing.” 🤪
She could’ve easily rolled the zipped up suitcase outside and locked the door then called police! If she was truly afraid! He’s dead because of her!
Didn’t need to. She knew he was stuck in a suitcase. Heres some questions: why didn’t she say in the video she knew he couldn’t breathe and wanted him to die? When he said he couldn’t breathe how come she didn’t say: I know that’s why I’m not letting you out? Why was she so unprepared the next day if she knowingly killed him? Why didn’t she make preparations to get rid of the body? Why didn’t she beat the suitcase like a piñata? Why didn’t he die from blunt force trauma instead of positional asphyxiation? Why isn’t there any actual evidence on video that he could not breathe? What proof do you have He did not tell her: b*tch as soon as I get out of here I’m gonna ring your neck? Why was a grown man unable to get himself out of a suitcase once she went upstairs?
And what are you implying then about the times she did call the police? She wasn’t in fear then either huh? Just admit you watched the videos that the state leaked to the media and they worked in convincing you there is nothing anyone can say or do to change your opinion
She encouraged him to call his daughters while drinking. Is for one reason and one reason only. She wanted the daughters to know what was going on. Get people to not like him. She wants him to tell the brother how he pulled her down the stairs. I bet you she took what she did to him in that suitcase and turned that story to benefit her. When telling the cops. Narcissist
@1Life2Live007
It is my very firm belief that this was premeditated murder, that the suitcase was the transportation for the body, the phone calls were to "prove" that he was alive while in his presence, and the phone call to her ex-husband was because she was probably going to load up the suitcase with his dead body in it and have him drive her some place saying that she had an argument with Jorge at which time she would have disposed of Jorge's body.
I 100% totally and completely believe this was premeditated right down to the suitcase being the tool to transport his dead body in. She was highly disappointed when the ex-husband hung up on her and, feeling defeated, probably didn't even sleep that night but spent trying to plan what she could possibly come up with. I believe that when she called her ex-husband that Jorge was already dead. I believe that she beat AND suffocated him to death.
Remember, when he was begging to be let out because he couldn't breathe, he was not saying that his hands were hurting or broken. She did that to make him shut up. This was absolutely premeditated first degree murder. ABSOLUTELY
Sure. Jorge was father and husband of the year.
@@MrMancreatedgodthat's not the point. At all. Nobody said Jorge was a saint or any of those things. I'd love to hear how he deserved what he got. She had 10000 other options. I say that as a DV survivor. She's appalling.
@@MrMancreatedgod Jorge wasn't a great guy, but he was abused and controlled, she held all the power in that relationship and routinely used the law to further abuse him, he did not deserve a slow agonizing death begging for help with the taste of blood in his mouth.
Can the judge make an upwards departure on sentencing? I mean this man was tortured not only in these minutes he was slowly dying but in the years leading up to.
I cried watching those videos. He was a good man with a serious drinking problem. I bet you all her injuries were merely drunken accidents. Even in one of the videos he said "I never did anything to you" and she answered "yet". To what he said "never will". Poor man
As the Prosecutor said at the start Sarah was committing multiple felonies when Jorge died. That's murder 2. Murder 2 in Florida includes a max of life in prison.
I'm only kidding when I say the jury should come back with a conviction for a "Greater Not Included Charge" of Murder 1. The judge CAN give her life.
Peter I was not swayed, No one deserves to die inside a suit case. Even drunk drivers are punished for drunk driving and injuring or killing people. If you can't handle the drink you should not drink and to act this way for two 40 yr. olds is devastating. I feel sorry for all involved but these were adults they had called the police numerous times. They were both a menace to society. They both should have joined AA before it got to this. They had to know they both had a problem with alchohol.
I don't understand your point.
I dont think they were playing hide and seek,, I think she made him get in the suitcase..
Yep. Absolutely
How? Yall are hilarious
@@MrMancreatedgodlisten to the 911 call. She flat says she put him in there. The ME can help explain how. She beat the crap out of him.
It could be possible she ordered him to get into the suitcase. BS Hide and seek
I agree, he was always drunk and very passive. She must of said get in and he did. 😢
I wish that they had the same psychiatrist that they has in the Johnny Depp trial! He was HILARIOUS!!!
The cops was 100% yelling at Sarah because she kept trying to insert herself in his and Jorge's convo
I just can’t wait to see her face when she gets over 30 years. She doesn’t think she will ever be guilty.
Peter I watched a lot of the case until the early hours of the morning here in Australia. It was a WILD day, but eventually fell asleep so didnt see the last lot of videos etc. Thank you so much for daily summaries, explanatians etc. So appreciate and thoroughly enjoy your channel. Blessings to you and yours
You have got to go back and watch the rest.
I’m also watching from Australia. Appreciate the summaries for the stuff I miss.
Stating the Obvious BUT *She’s *COOKED*
I truly believe she was so drunk and doesn’t remember. But has to come up with something…
Absolutely
Yes.
But she remembers him threatening her and getting his hand out, remember? Why does anyone believe anything that comes out of that despicable creature’s mouth? I don’t get it. She lies. She literally lies all the time, constantly. She destroys her own lies within minutes of them by lying about something else. What we know about that night is she videotaped herself mocking a trapped and suffering man who died. That is what should be believed.
@@daniellenicole8712 Her downfall is that she thinks she’s slick and can talk her way out of anything. She’s insane to not have taken the plea deal.
I agree
But during the cross he elicited from her telling the jury that Brian Boone said Sarah was abusive to him.
I heard that first thing I thought was bad facts.
I actually liked that the expert didn't get bogged down, she focused on Sarah's actual testimony of the events and her medical records. It was very concise and simple, 'Sarah said X happened and X doesn't meet any requirements of battered spouse involvement', boom, easy peasy.
Also her statement wasn't "Sarah wasn't in imminent danger" it was "As Sarah described it nothing in her testimony would flag/indicate a battered spouse response", aka there was no build up, there was no fear response, there was no altercation or argument.
By her own admission what she did wasn't because of any battered spouse symptoms or triggers so it doesn't apply to the events as described.
I don't think you heard right. She 100% conceded that Sarah has battered spouse syndrome. She even supported that.
@MrMancreatedgod she also stated Sarah was the aggressor in this situation.
@MrMancreatedgod so you're a Boone supporter? Got it
@@MrMancreatedgod No you're misunderstanding, Sarah does meet the criteria of battered spouse, what happened does not indicate the involvement of battered spouse. Aka you can have schizophrenia and if you commit a crime independent of your schizophrenia then it doesn't matter, there's no involvement between the mental illness and the crime.
@@MrMancreatedgodtrue but she did not murder Jorge as a result of BS. Clearly she was not in fear for her life.
Love this judge!
All the videos made my heart break for Jorge. He was the one that just wanted to appease her. Those videos proved that she was more of the abuser than he was and that she used the cops as her own personal guards. She thought everyone would believe the pretty white woman. Most of her injuries in photos looked like the alcoholics in my life because they are always hurting themselves. The black eye was entirely fake...bruises have splotches not just a solid black, you should see swelling, cuts, busted capillaries, something besides what just looked like black eye shadow. I have seen more damage from a girl's punch and she claimed he stomped her? Also, speaks volumes that the friends telling her to leave Jorge are no where in sight now. When someone does something so heinous you tend to stop lying to yourself about their character.
Thank You Peter!!! Blessings and Peace for another Day!!! ♥️
3 points i thought after watching the videos.
1. For me its clear who the person in charge was. SB. She treated him like a kid.
2. I became inclined to believe that his death was either premeditated or she knew she could kill him at some point. Why would you get so much evidence? Unless you wanted to use it for something.
3. She calling the police was the same as some couples use "divorce" as a threat
I think she collected her 'evidence' to control Jorge further, painting him as an abusive mentally challenged loser she was caring for 'like an angel' ties perfectly into her need to keep Jorge where she wants him.
The extent to which she treated him like a child was disturbing.
I get the feeling she would tell Jorge he could stay at the apartment and then she would call the cops on him. Maybe she didn’t directly tell him to stay there, but even leaving the extra key in their hiding spot that he knows about, is at least signaling that she isn’t afraid of him being in the apartment.
I think he packed the bag to leave HER for a change & she couldn’t tolerate that.
@@debs-101 That's literally what she did, one of those videos covers 2 incidents in a single day where she called him over, then called the cops to report him. He was escorted out by cops, then she called him back AGAIN and then called the cops once more to have him removed AGAIN.
Reminds me of Amber Heard.
Peter I wait for you ever day bc you have the best insight
He reminds me of Gabby P. Truly sad. RIP
THANK YOU Peter for your AWESOME breakdown of today! It was a Wild Day.
Absolutely
L❤VE The Lawyer I Know
I called it from the beginning. Now the videos show exactly who the real victim was and it’s not her. It’s really sad because there was really a need for mental help on both sides. What a toxic relationship.
My grandmother said the truth always comes out in the wash.
Sarah's wash is done.
I can't stress it enough. If you're in a relationship like this reach out for help and LEAVE. This is ultimately how it ends.
Here’s something… she said they cleaned up. Why was her son’s baseball out just conveniently right by the suitcase? If they deep cleaned like she said for up to 3 hours, don’t you think she would’ve put it away in her son’s room? I’m shocked no one thought this was odd and asked her “where does the baseball bat normally go?” SB-“my son’s room”, “oh, so how did the bar end up conveniently right next to the suitcase?”
I think she got the baseball bag. I really think she was alcohol mad & got the bat.
The relationship was so toxic, and unfortunately, it was inevitable that one of them would end up dead. 😢
The videos did it for me from the beginning just like in the Murdaugh trial. When you have video it's the most damning evidence in my opinion. They are more often than not hard to watch but absolutely and incredibly effective in telling the story, solidifying the state's case and bringing home a conviction.
Jorge isn't here and as much as it could be that he was just as toxic and abusive I feel like justice will be served because nobody deserves what happened to him no matter what. Taking someone's life other than for self defense isn't right and a crime that should always result in a conviction. I'm a victim of DV for five years and almost lost my life but nothing he did ever made me think of ending his life.
Also Carley Gregg trial
Can’t remember if I already made a similar comment, but thank you for everything you do Peter! I am a 3L and watching your channel has been enormously helpful during my law school journey.
Jorge was finally able to speak and I wish I could wipe the videos from my mind but it truly was heartbreaking!! May he eternally RIP and prayers to his loved ones… 💔🥲🕊
Someone should be “Sarah trying to hug a cop” for Halloween. Terrifying stuff 😅
I have to be very honest. I think you give too much credit to the defense, Peter. You are hyper critical of prosecutors but hold water for everything Owens does.
I appreciate the recaps.
The judge excused 8 attorneys, her story changed yet he was hellbent on no further delays. No surprises about the errors. I’m sure that Sarah was not an easy person to assess.
Sarah was clearly the aggressor! It was hard to watch.
At the end of the day the truth comes out I believe in Justice 😊
Can you tell me about your mic set up?
The sound you have is one of the best and simplest on my ears
My niece and her husband are drug addicts and mutual batterers. This cycle is so common. Depending on who you tend to sympathize with is the lens you hold. Both SB and JT were a hot mess. Men don't usually report DV to hold against their woman, but it happens. Both were toxic to each other.
The psychiatrist is not offering an opinion that Jorge is an imminent threat. She is offering the opinion that Sarah did not perceive Jorge as an imminent threat because Sarah said her state of mind was that they were laughing and playing
I ❤ KYN but have to admit I think he's wrong about the Psychiatrist's testimony today. She was being as honest as she possibly could be without showing prejudice in either direction. The only reason that she was giving off somebody language was because she was exasperated, as we ALL were, with Owens. I wanted to scream at Owens, "do you have a hearing deficiency or is your short-term memory shot as well?".
He kept asking the same question expecting a different answer.
Who is KYN?
LYK explains it well. It is NOT her job to decide innocence or guilt about Sarah's actions. She's there to give INFO ONLY on diagnosis and and what she "had". Btw, she *definitely* showed bias! I was loving what she said until Peter set me straight by explaining what a psychologist/psychiatrist expert's JOB ACTUALLY IS in the courtroom. JURY decides from their info
Psychologist reminds me of a very bad experience many years ago.got an appt to one,after few minutes of talking,I realized this psychologist is snoring,actually I made him sleep. I walked out and the secretary asked me if I want to make a f/u and I said you have to ask the psychologist,btw he fell asleep wait till he woke up. I left that office never to come back ever again to anyone.
pfft sorry that's horrible and a hilarious mental image
Same happened to me too!
I think when they got drunk and he crashed she got pissed! Party over - get the f up or I’m calling the police! He was out 3 times she called! They had to wake him up off the couch! She’s a menace and 100% GUILTY!
It seems like she actually abused him.
Peter, love your analysis. But how do you get to the conclusion of Kraynick "siding with Owens" with the response...."RESPECTFULLY." Even I flinched at that.
She was ASKED TO RETELL WHAT SARAH TOLD HER ABOUT THE EVENT- DUH
After Owens did the repeated questioning style "does an abuser sometimes" kick, punch, withhold items, isolate from friends, etc etc...and Warner repeated "they may, they may" I wish on redirect Jay repeated that line of questioning and asked one more, "does an abuser sometimes zip and control victim in a suitcase while videotaping calls for help?" they may....
❤️🇨🇦👍🏻❤️🇨🇦 She is guilty!
Of manslaughter
Thanks for the video, nice to hear your side
31:02 respectfully I think Owen’s asking vague questions was too much! For example he should say are there any thoughts about X. X being whatever is relevant. How would an expert know what he is looking for. I think he was WAY too aggressive with her!
Peter how dare you want Sarah to get a fair trial and have effective counsel? Shame on you for not slanting every piece of evidence in favor of the state. How could you dare to have mercy in your heart even for those accused of horrible crimes?
Great breakdown for us “lay-people” in the audience, thanks!
I actually really like Owens. In my opinion he signed up to help her because he truly believed she needed a lawyer and quickly realized it was a terrible idea. He is in a crap situation but he is trying. I hope he does his best and Sarah is convicted on the evidence.
a netflix book deal on the horizon would sweeten his oh so generous representation...... 🧐
Peter you open your eyes
45:39 respectfully because I think the world of you she did say that she did not diagnose her with PTSD because she did not get enough information from her, and she said it differently than she said it in the deposition, but it was the same thing. I listen to it four times. And the judge ended up, saying that he sided with them out of an abundance of caution, which I agree with completely.
Exactly. Some things he said in this had me wondering if he watch all of trial today. 🤔
I agree with you! That female shrink annoyed me like crazy, didn't seem fair and DID seem like sabotage
Peter i love how you explained today in court. I believe it shouldn’t matter who the défendant is. The law is the law. I think it does affect the defences case. Not being able to prepare like you explained.
Ambiguous questions/statements drives my autistic mind nuts. I will literally shut down wracking my brain on where to even start with an answer or understand the statement. Same reason why I don't use the American 12-hour (See you at 8! 8am or 8pm?!?!).
It's either 0800 or 2000.
I still think Sarah and Jorge had an S&M dynamic from the very first date that took on a life of its own, with them both switching at will, gone wild.
I agree, I was getting mistress vibes from her. Something felt off with those videos.
Cop yelled at Sarah to shut up, not Jorge.
I wish I could unsee and unhear the absolutely evil sadistic torture that Jorge had to endure up to the point of his leaving this world. Jorge the hand of God took you from that suitcase at some point during your suffering. His mighty hands will not let harm come to you ever again. Rest in peace Jorge Torres, we now know your truth. My heart breaks for you and what your last moments must have been.
Strange witness. This is a professional psychiatrist? She's just parroting what Sara told her . What's the point
Shows what you know. Too bad it wasn’t her witness and u don’t know what ur talking about
The hell was the point of that first "expert witness"? She literally just said everything sarah said but in a different tone.
So the defense proposes that Boone abused her partner, (which led to his death) because he had previously abused her. Then it logically follows that her partner previously abused Boone, because HE himself was being abused by her. Or does the defense argument hold only if the victim is female.
Im no sarah boone fan but i think her lawyers have done a great job for her 🤷♀️ owens especially
She can't ever say she wasn't defended with vigor
Didn't you see the videos at the end of court? It was a mic drop for the state.
Owens had done ok, but he is very unlikeable.
The videos show it all. The way she talked to.Jorge, she made him mad. He seems he was a nice person he just drank to much. Both of them did. Crazy drunk. She called the cops so if something did happen it would saw Jorge always going to jail. TV smash they did that together. I guess it was broke. So they smashed it. She yelled at accused him for taking her keys all the time. She was awful to him. He did not deserve to die or die like that. She knew he was in suit case. As smart she think she should of known he would die. He was telling her over and over he could not breath. She.killed him
No alimony in jail
I believe the psychiatrist was not prepared, as well. She should have listened to Sarah's interrogation and watched the videos.
Peter!!! You are so off the ball on this one 😩
The meltdown @ 19:17 is priceless. The best part of my day today. 😂 Thank you!
around 0:32:00 how the hell does she answer that? he is asking WAY too broad questions, like "what opinions may you potentially tell the jury?" ask SPECIFICS, that's why she is a BIT snarky back at him bc he is asking nothing
Um..um...um.. this first witness was driving me crazy with saying um every few seconds. If we took a drink everytime she says um, we'd all be drunk lol
I think the Psychiatrist was basing her opinion on Sarah’s lack of anxiety- calm & upbeat interpretation was what she based her opinion on. Behavioral health decisions are based on behaviors& how people feel - Sarah didn’t speak of any fear , anxiety during the day - so I think the Psychiatrist was interpreting this.
I would have loved to hear the prosecutor ask her about memory - black outs and drinking. I think Sarah was potentially in a black out and didn’t remember making the videos and her explanation - narrative of the evening was a lie.
One of the best things about LYK is that here you can disagree and it doesn't become anything more than than. 👍✌️
Owen’s fighting a losing battle to the end. He was sarcastic & disrespectful to the psychiatrist.
Nurse Here: In defense of the psychiatrist expert witness: it would be really difficult to quantify all of the conditions that a perspn DOESNT have or that you dont suspect. Usually you only suspect a few things, but there are hundreds of other conditions that you dont suspect for one reason or the other. I dont think she did a good job of explaining that.
This is why I think the syringe is significant. I think he tricked Sarah into playing hide and seek so he could pack a suitcase with his belongings without her seeing. He accidentally dropped the suitcase down the stairs and Sarah heard it while hiding. He grabbed his papers and his syringe to pack and Sarah found him and shoved him in the suitcase to teach him a lesson. Then she passed out.
He gotto mad to ask for anything. He changed the whole room of the court room.
personally i was so nervous during the testimony of this expert, her way of doing things seems so scummy and she really needs to learn to control her facial expressions. the whole situation was extremely off-putting and it felt to me like we were 2 seconds away from her saying something that would create a major legal issue
Not once in those videos did I see Stress, Anxiety, Fear, or Helplessness from Sarah if anything she was enjoying the police officers attention. I saw more Stress, Confusion and Anxiety in Jorge. The jury must be rolling their eyes Dizzy at Sarah Boone.🙄🙄😵💫😵💫
42:32 DEPOSITION MID TRIAL: I agree with Peter on Owen’s fumbling away some of the knowledge gained through the depo and how the depo itself looked much better for the defense vs what was presented in front of the jury. IMO, I’m finding that to be a common theme in many trials I’ve seen lately. Oftentimes, experts opinions are formulated and presented much clearer during depo to where it bodes well for one side or the other, but when testifying in front of the jury it falls flat. I believe that happened with the crash daddy experts and cellebrite experts for defense in the KR trial. Additionally, I believe that makes it harder for us “couch jurors” streaming the trial to remain as unbiased as the actual jury members who aren’t privy to everything we are seeing. As someone streaming the trial and often feeling very strongly one way or the other by a certain point in trial, it becomes harder and harder to separate knowledge gained in jury view vs that gained during attorney arguments etc.
Btw- I couldn’t help myself but to hear Jackson or Yanetti’s voice in my head saying a sarcastic retort when the psychiatrist claimed Boone didn’t provide any additional information when asked the same blanket question that she herself continues to refuse to answer 🤣 I don’t believe they would’ve been able to keep from verbalizing the irony lol!!
Peter what I really think is Sarah was upset after the call from Jorges brother telling her to say away from his kids, nieces and nephews. Plus her and Jorge could no longer attend Jorge's family functions.
Does anyone know toxicology report during autopsy? Did George have benzos as well as alcohol in his system ? If so, couldn't it be assumed that he used valium while inside suitcase - therefore causing his own death ? Alcohol & benzos are a lethal combination.
My understanding was the tox screen was negative for anything other than alcohol.
Can not “assume” he used another drug. That’s ridiculous. You can only go with what the tox panel found.
There are not 2 silver pulls with pink paper clip on top of suitcase in the video.I can see the silver pulls in court room image of the suitcase easily. I also can not move my arms in the 9 inch deep suitcase. My forearms are pinned down by my legs so I can not move my arms much because of the bent position. They made her show them position and pulls for a reason.
I cant stand when some of those in the live chat say that they are DV survivors and because they wouldnt do something means its impossible for all DV survivors to do something. Im a DV survivor, but who am i to say to another DV survivor wouldnt do something just cause I wouldn't. Its the definition of narcissistic.
Jorge was the victim of domestic abuse and so much more sickening