Tecnam P2006T MkII by FSS | FIRST LOOK PREVIEW (MSFS)
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- Available now for PC, Xbox coming soon. I think you’ll like it!
Pre-release version reviewed
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"I take the Tecnam P2006T MkII for a flight from Kidlington EGTK. Tour, startup, handling, emergency procedures, night time, ILS with autopilot."
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The tecnam is a good looking plane and the model looks good. Personally I hate them as a mechanic because they tend to be maintenance hogs. I haven't flown one due to not having my multi. Side note, the reason you burp the engine is for checking the oil levels. They have a dry sump system meaning the oil is contained separately from the engine. By spinning the propeller you circulate the oil back into the oil tank so you can get an accurate reading on the dipstick. The burping sound happens from the oil return line running out of oil to return to the tank and blowing air. If anyone is interested in my grieves with the Tecnam I will list them in a reply. I have 4 years experience working on them along side sportcruisers, da40's, da42's, and cessnas.
We have two tecnams which are a 2006 and a 2009 manufacturer that will be phased out in the future by our two new(they are pre owned and have a few years on them, not sure if bulit after 2010 or before) da42's with IO360 engines. Here are the reasons I don't like the tecnam. The brake rotors are very thin. They compare more to our light sport aircraft which are 400 Lbs or 120 Kgs lighter at max weight then the tecnam is at full weight. If you are hard on the brakes and use them often like for touch and goes the brakes will overheat the rotors and cause them to warp.
The brake system itself has some weird points in it though hard turn fitting that make it hard to bleed the brakes. Air bubbles get stuck and are hard get out.
Access panels are generally a complaint in aviation but there are point on the tecnam that really annoy me. The large nose gear panel is good, the wings are good except for anything running through the engine nacelle but the tail and interior are barely enough to get the job done. You have two panels to access the hydraulic pump and they are ok for regular servicing but not very good for heavier stuff. Looks of putting you arms at weird angles and feeling things out. The panel that on older models gives you access to the voltage converts sucks and it easier to take the back wall of the interior out. The interior generally sucks and is a vacuumed plastic that likes to break easily especially when installing it. It like do beak around its attachment points which generally sheet metal screws into the airframe. They just break and feel cheap
Lastly our two tecnams don't match the wiring diagram and don't even match each other. Tecnams vary on what parts they use by year and electrical issues are generally a pain to trace and take multiple days. The electrical is by fair what annoys me the most especially since the manuals don't help you.
Each plane has its own qwerks like cessna panels for the fuel tanks don't give you any favors either but working on a tecnam is harder and more annoying than any other plane I work on. All hail diamonds in my opinion.
Wow, thanks for letting me know! So the oil doesn’t run back to the accumulator naturally? And does it sound like this model?
@@cgaviator the oil only runs back if the engine or propeller is moving therefore moving the oil pump. The oil does not naturally run back to the oil tank. Generally I'd say there is usually a quart or liter sitting in the engine that will not show on the dipstick unless you burp it. When doing an oil change you have to burp the engine multiple times so you can drain the oil. If you don't burp it it will be overfilled and either eject it out the oil tank cap or the oil overflow which gets overwhelmed quick. It makes a mess. It does sound like the model, just remember to get that sound in real life you have to have the oil cap off to hear it.
@@BrockvsTV fantastic, thanks for confirming that, great that they have it spot on 👍🏻
@@BrockvsTV is it not typical of rotax engines? The same is alsomon my club Diamond Super Dimona with rotax turbocharged, and also on MCR sportster of my friends ( I fly gliders in RL so no engine problems at all ...)
I'm very happy to see that the P2006T have been developed. This is one of the most used aircraft for MEP and MEIR training in Europe. Lots of students (including me) will have the opportunity to train at home both on the use of the aircraft and on the training they are undergoing.
It's also a very good product, I'm sure it will "rehab" the name of the developers after the E-175 "incident".
Anyway, I hope that in the release version the blue and red lines in the speed strip will be implemented 🙂
Thank you very much for your preview!
My pleasure, I’m glad to have this in MSFS as well. Great aircraft!
This is a beautiful looking aircraft. Love the interactions they have done an amazing job.
Getting this no questions.
Agreed!
Checklist - "GO ARROUND" ;)
Can't wait! Love this light twin!
It’s out now but will be a while for the marketplace
Another brilliant instalment Chris. Having a real pilot show us this stuff really adds something unique. I really hope your channel takes off (no pun).
Thank you, me too! Keeps me busy but it’s very rewarding. 👍🏻
The reason the engine indications move from the PFD to MFD is because on start up the PFD is running in reversionary mode. Once you turn on the avionics master, it activates the MFD, which is where engine instrumentation is supposed to be. The only way engine instrumentation would move to the PFD is if there was a failure of the MFD, in which case everything is consolidated into one screen.
Thanks, I figured as much. But it would be nice to have engine info in front of me. Helps my poor eye sight! 😂
@@cgaviator If you press the red reversionary button you can get the engine instrumentation on the PFD but you will lose the moving map on the MFD.
@@poofylepoofpoof9596 hmmm… think I’d prefer the moving map! 😅
Chris, once again, my bank card got lighter after one of your videos. Lovely plane haven't flown it yet but that's what evenings and weekends are for. Great review as always
Sorry about that! 😆 You’ll enjoy it 👍🏻
Not an aircraft I want but the developers have obviously done a staggeringly good job.
Agreed! The only down side is that it would take a loooong time to get anywhere in this! 😅
Beautiful, you know I'm going to ask you to take it around the loop.. 😁
That would take a while! 😂
Would be cool if you could hop in with 2 in the aircraft and do search missions for the civil guard or mappings. One pilot, one camera operator. It is, however, already very cool to have an interactive walkaround!
Absolutely, that would be ace. But who would operate the camera when they could be doing the flying! 😂
Great Review. Will be adding this airplane to my collection for sure. Cheers!
Thanks 👍🏻
The MAP sensor is just after the butterfly valve in the manifold the Manifold valve is open the sensor will detect ambient pressure and thus same reading as the live engine.If the engine stops, because of windmilling it will indicate same prop rpm as the live engine
Thanks for the info, interesting stuff 👍🏻
Stunning model. Great review! Thanks!
My pleasure 👍🏻
Great videos! Really enjoy all the detail you go into
Thank you, I thought I’d perhaps made the video too long! But it was fun so I thought, why not!? 😁
@@cgaviator For me, review videos could quite happily be longer. So much to cover to do a product like this justice.
@@aengberg1 perhaps I should had done full checklist lol, wouldn’t have missed so much 😂
Thanks for this! The prop-turning sound is a bit like a Wookie burp!
Lol, maybe the real one sounds like that! 😅 It would make me chuckle!
Yes, the real thing sounds just like it. We call it the toilet flush 😂
@@japenunes haha, I was going to use toilet flush but thought drain plug was a nicer reference for the developers model! 😂
Hey Chris would love to see you try the KC-10 Extender
you mean the one aero dynamics are releasing?
I’ll definitely be buying this when it comes to Xbox just cause the military look is awesome
Yeah, I really liked it. Simple, but lots of extra stuff! 😁
Fantastic !! Cant wait to try in MSFS
Think it’s just been released for MSFS
@@cgaviator where can we find it?
So now I'm waiting for P2008 too :)
Lol… always wanting more… me too! 😄
Really nice made aircraft, very popular in Europe for training. A must buy for me. In real life there is even one with my surname I-OZZI ! 😁😁😁😁
It’s a sign!
My instructor from Air Force training retired to fly this. He passed away in a crash two months into it. So sad 😞
Such a shame! Doing what he loved
Choke is used for a cold start on rotax's👍
Strange that it would even turn without it. Would have thought it would still turn over, no?
@@cgaviator Yeah it would kick in real life. the starter motor will still kick the prop, but it wont catch. All the choke lever is doing is moving an arm on each Carburetor (each engine has 2) which moves a plate and actually increases the fuel flow.
cant wait for this one!
It’ll be worth the wait. Hopefully soon 👍🏻
This is 1:1 compared to the real life counterpart. I fky the new Tecnam P2006T MKII at the moment, to get my CPL and IRME rating. I must say, this is so well done, its almost scary
That’s awesome to hear, thanks!
18:06 finally an aircraft with realistic adverse yaw, most missing feature for almost every aircraft :)
Yup, I want to fly these things, not just steer them around the sky! 😁
Yes I hope more developer gonna implement realistic adverse yaw in the future. It's just unrealistic making a turn without having to use any rudder... :)
Hello! Do you have any videos for the post-flight checklist of Tecnam P2006T? It is for our school project. Thank you
I will fly this aircraft in the real life , my flight school already operate 2 of these beauties and its a great performance MEP, and it have airliner cockpit characteristics , x2 98.6HP 912S rotax and it can be used as well for VFR as principally Advanced IFR
And one the liveries included is the one my flight school use ( Canavia )
Oh perfect! Did you see the bit about engine shut down in flight? I was confused by the indications.
@@cgaviator yes i saw it
@@alejordann2fly411 was it accurate or is something funky happening with their coding of engine shutdown?
Florida? Miami?
I've been looking into a twin to dig into, and this one looks really nice. I've just tried out the M-346 as per your rec and am loving it so far! Just today received my loupedeck live to help workflow and learning nav/AP duties. Any idea when this one might hit the marketplace?
There’s a significant issue where developers have to wait for MSFS to process their uploads. There’s no way of knowing between a week or two and a month or two! Fingers crossed it’s quick 👍🏻
I’m using a couple of stream decks but I was tempted for something with knobs! 😂 Let me know who we’ll it works 👍🏻
@@cgaviator It's a game changer! The knobs for heading and VS have made my flying so much less stressful. I barely have need for my mouse anymore and I'm only running the stock profile from the Loupedeck marketplace. I highly recommend it.
Also, I got the Tecnam from Aerosoft store last night and it's amazing. I love the kind of slow and lazy handling (even though it actually DOES handle) but it seems very realistic. I put a few hours on it last night and can't wait to go home and dig into some of the more advanced bits.
Going to pick this up.
Enjoy!
Really nice air plane. I'll definitely buy it if the price is right!
It’s not quite Blackbird Sim level of alive with wear and tear, but it has a lot more than most addons. It’ll be interesting but I’m expecting high $30s maybe low $40s.
Beautiful😍
She’s certainly a looker!
Great video as always, we’re you using the tobii eye tracker on this one 👍
Thanks, and no, not this time. Needed to look behind me a fair bit as well as stay stable when zoomed in. I’ll use it for a video or two soon 👍🏻
EXCELENTE!
Merci!
image and resolution are so smooth. What are your PC specs ?
Specs linked in description I think. i7 plus RTX 3070. Most stuff on High settings.
I'd want this if there was a Royal Air Force livery. It's too expensive too.
Not used by RAF but maybe someone on PC would do one
@@cgaviator The Royal Air Force Rapid Capabilities Office fly one and it is crewed by the RAF. It carries their logo and had their bird logo on it's tail. It is in RAF grey too. Why do you think I wrote that I wanted one?
Terrific video! On the center MFD, when you adjusted the heading at the 16:54 point in the video, there was a dashed line that pointed forward from the aircraft. How do I enable that on the G1000? Thanks!!
Thanks! And I have no idea! 😂 Just kinda happened lol. They do mention that the Garmins have been customised.
You should check out the pa34t, it has some similar features.
Thanks, I’ll take a look 👍🏻
Excellent review! Thank you for that.
Silent landings; literally no sounds (structural or from tyres) on touchdown. Is that a bug, a missing sound, or something that still needs sorting?
Not sure, maybe my sound settings but I don’t remember hearing much.
Looks like an alternative to the twin otter (and maybe a bit more advanced than that is?)
Think the twin otter maybe faster? And a fair bit bigger
Great vids - earned a you a sub! What's the default 2D cockpit view like? I like the Beachcraft Bonanza but I absolutely hate the restrictive view over the dash. This looks like a winner but haven't seen the default view...
By 2D cockpit view do you mean just where the camera is without head tracking? You get an idea from this if you imagine it a shade higher (hard to see out window to the left). You can use custom cameras to move your position and preset it to your liking.
And thanks! 👍🏻😄
@@cgaviator Bought it and flying it now. Love it - needs some more liveries though. :)
@@AdminVortex762 glad you made the good choice!
Great overview. Out of interest, what do you use for controlling your view inside the cockpit, seems nice and smooth and precise when you are looking around and interacting with the controls.
Thanks, and TrackIR 👍🏻
Many thanks.
Great video: Of topic. What lighting mod are you using. It looks great.
No lighting mod but I have adjusted colours and contrast a bit with nvidia filters. It gives it darker shadows, less HDR, and a more blue tint as opposed to the red of default.
@@cgaviator thank you so much for replying. If you could and be very kind, can you share your nvidia colors and filters adjustments?
@@Nemura12 I do plan to at some point. I keep tinkering and largely in depends on the weather conditions. Try setting colour, tint 33% and intensity 20%. Then contrast as desired 👍🏻
Excellent. Thank you so much.
Hi, I’m new to MS FS. I’m using it on an Xbox - where do I go to buy this add on please? I am training on this plane currently!
Awesome! Should be in the marketplace if they have released it for marketplace and Xbox. You’d have to check developer media to see if it’s available.
Did you mention the price of this thing??!!! If not do you know a price? I can’t wait for this the detail is immaculate
I think I forgot to say that I don’t know. Price TBC on release
@@cgaviator 👍
Ive really tried to like this plane, but have just found that it doesnt work for my type flying in the sim. Its too slow, and doesnt seem to have enough power for higher elevation flying like I do in Colorado area. It doesnt seem to do well in island hoping, like at st. Barth etc. I would prefer the twin otter, but it’s unavailable for some reason, so I typically fly the islander. So just seems to me that this plane doesnt have an advantage over other aircraft in a given situation.
I think that’s how it is in real life. Underpowered. The benefit I think is multi engine training and cheap to run.
What do you use for head tracking? Looks so good.
Thanks! This was TrackIR
I have two wonky issues:
Every time I load in with this aircraft the nose wheel sinks into the ground.
And if I use the EFB to skip over the walk around the plane crashes.
Anyone know what’s going on?
Sorry for the delay, but sadly not. Haven’t flown this in a while. If everything is up to date and I was having issues, I may try disabling other addons. Especially freeware stuff. Just a thought if you were still having trouble.
Does the GPU disappear on its own during engine start? I noticed you didn’t remove it.
Good spot. I cut forwards some so missed the action (o removed it, honest! 😂). It does get ‘dragged’ but I think it disappears shortly after moving.
THat checklist on the left hand side of the dash is pretty annoying . Is there anyway to take that off ?
Not sure, perhaps not
Are they using the Working Title Garmins?
Modified but yes 👍🏻
I flown this aircraft and although i like it, has a lot of querks. Like @brockvsTV stated it's a maintenance hog and doors/hatch to airframe marriage ir poor. Single engine performance is abominal and in terms of really useful load is very limiting. Auto pilot is strange, doesnt allow flight director without AP on and the AP itself if very strange with maneuvers and sometimes it looses its mind, so much that we had dedicated cut off switches por the A/P trims. P.S.: Yes, you need to choke everytime to start it, and just remembered, in really life DO NOT move the fuel tanks valves they are always getting stuck...
When closing the valve it would take about 1-2 minutes of kill the engine
Wow, so not all sunshine and roses! I’ve had a couple of aircraft not shut down when i asked it to!
It has a military look but flies like a Cessna 152 , soo slow. ! 🙈😂
Yeah, like a big drone!
Why oh why is the prop pitch backwards and the metal guard on the wrong side of the prop on on blade per engine?
I’ll pass it onto them. You’ve got a good eye 👍🏻
Hi. When does this plane come out on XBOX? Thanks for the reply.
Depends on the delay with marketplace/Xbox processing would be my guess. And that is a significant variable!
How to you get it ? I don’t see it in the MSFS2020 store at Xbox
I think I mentioned that it’ll release on Aerosoft first. Then Xbox etc once processing is complete.
How quaint turning an engine over by hand. You'll be flying a Tiger Moth next.
Possibly! Or maybe the Corsair! I used to have to hand turn my Tucano to scavenge the oil. That was 20-30 rotations! 😅
@@cgaviator Used to do it on the Chipmunk that came to VY in the summer for cadet flight experience.
Also once in an old de Havilland Devon which occasionally came to VY from Llanbedr - when that airfield was still open - saved a slow car journey around the coast. Flew it once as well!! Like going back to WW2 just about.
@@jjsmallpiece9234 don’t make em like they used to! 😄
@@cgaviator Thank f they don't
@@jjsmallpiece9234 😂
Pls help me, for a beginners is better this p2006t or cessna 310? Thanx a lot
Both require you to learn the start up sequence. They’re fairly involved so for a beginner, whichever you prefer the look of I would say! 👍🏻
@@cgaviator thanx
How do you walk around like this on outside please. ? Thank you. !
A few options. Drone camera with an Xbox controller to control it is my favourite. You can also sometimes slew outside the cockpit with numpad keys. With this aircraft, when you click the walk around checklist, it slews you outside. This way you can interact with elements on the aircraft unlike in drone camera mode. Hope that helps 👍🏻
@@cgaviator thank you.!
@@cgaviator yeah , I can slew outside when I click on walk around checklist , but I can not return back to the cockpit , I fly only in VR , I will see if I can do it with an Xbox controller ! 😀
@@calinutza33 the way I figured it was to assign a camera reset button. Click it and you’re back.
Does anyone know how to turn the AP off fully.. I hit the ap off switch on the left hand side but it’ll still try and pull to the selected alt even if all ap switches off
Sorry, I don’t. What’s the manual like these days?
@@cgaviator no bueno 😂 thank you man I appreciate you getting back to me
@@Riikkyy lol, the other option is trying the key bind to the default MSFS autopilot master or on/off and trying that? Are there some servo switches I seem to remember?
is there any simbrief profile available? :)
Have no idea I’m afraid. But it’s fairly simple to copy flight plans onto any gps enabled MSFS aircraft
@@cgaviator okay, I couldn't find a profile yet, for the plan itself its is no problem, that's easy to copy, I thought more because of the fuel planning
@@albaviation3865 oh I see, we’ll I’d do a short flight at 5, 10 and 15k feet with cruise settings. Then see what the TAS and fuel burn is. Then do the math for the route, should work out about right with decent offsetting the climb. Probably massive oversimplified but I like fag packet math! 👍🏻
@@cgaviator that is a great idea, this is also a nice part of our flight sim hobby to find solutions and we are in the good position to do some stuff a bit more simple than irl :) great that you reply to the comments here and thanks, great channel! Greetings from Stuttgart 🛬
@@albaviation3865 absolutely! Vielen Dank
I can't see this in store for xbox?
No, as I mentioned, initial release on Aerosoft One Store then via marketplace I guess once MSFS has done its checks. May take a while.
@@cgaviator Sorry I missed that. I won't hold my breath then lol. Think I'm gonna grab the Kodiak instead in the mean time.
No NPAS livery?
Only what I showed in the video. I’m sure the painters will get on it if popular
@@cgaviator I was mistaken anyways NPAS use the Vulcanair not Tecnam but hopefully they do a blank grey scheme on fhe FLIR version so we have more options to play with it
I didn't see any animation of the yoke is that right?
It’s animated, did I miss something. Do you have a time stamp for reference? Perhaps I clicked it away accidentally.
Nope animation works fine looks perfectly done
how do you get to do a wlakaround the aircraft? is it possible to do it in VR?
Did you watch the video? I demo the walk around and the buttons. I don’t see why it wouldn’t work in VR. Otherwise I move the camera around in drone mode and use TrackIR
@@cgaviator apparently i skipped the moment you said the custom cameras and drone camera thing xd
@@Maverick626 no worries 👍🏻
Mine gets stuck on auto pilot 😢
Strange! Have you tried a keybind to autopilot master? And does it unlock when you aggressively move the yoke?
@@cgaviator yes I have a key bind and no it will not disengage even with massive input on yoke
@@scottschwirian7526 any other switches or buttons assigned to autopilot that may be interfering? I’ve not used this for a while. And the master AP button doesn’t switch stuff off. Can you switch power off to autopilot or trim servos?
Or a CB?
@@cgaviator a couple auto pilot switches yes on different peripherals..idk what u mean I'm also on xbox x
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
???????????? 🤣
Yet another GA aircraft its nice but there is a huge gap in turbo props
What turbo prop are you after? I used to love flying the Tucano!
@cgaviator anything old school like the HS748 or the Lockheed Electra maybe an F27
@@wollyxl you may like the old Boeing that I think Wings42 did. Good price and very detailed
@cgaviator I have it it's not a Turbo prop even the DHC 4 is nice but would of much liked the DHC 5
@cgaviator fun for me is the pc6 gets up to 10,000 in no time and back down equally as fast 3500 fpm at around 100kts is crazy fun.
Flew that thing 6 years ago for my ME rating.
Since then collected hundreds of hours in MEP planes and thousands in Jets and can say: This plane is the worst I've ever flown. Maneuverability is horrible and if you lucky and weather is not too hot it can barely hold it's altitude single engine, which is not really surprising since it's powdered by two lawnmowers which bring the same power as a normal Cessna 172.
The only reason this plane does exist are greedy flight schools.
Every 40 years old Seneca or Seminole is way superior than this thing.
Lol, so not-so-fond memories! 😅 Hopefully the lawnmowers were reliable at least! 😁
@@cgaviator Haha, yeah when I read my comment again I can see there's a deep trauma hidden in me hehe.
The cockpit was great though. For me it was first time flying a glasscockpit as well.
Nice video anyway!
@@meyers0n 😂
Haha ! Ok by now you'd know an aircraft flys the way it flys; if it's got Dead Whale written on the side then that's what it is.🐋🐋 Plan the flight and fly the plan etc etc etc 😃 Make up for it with some good home made beef sandwiches, a bit of curry sauce, and fresh squeezed orange juice !
@@asya9493 😂
does it have visual ising effects and working de-icing equipment?
I don’t know I’m afraid. Maybe on their product page?