@@UA-cam_Censored_Me that’s what came to my mind as well. All these “sensitivity consultants” destroying popular franchises and developers, then attacking gamers when their games don’t sell.
As an actor myself, most actors DO NOT want intimacy co-ordinators, interfering with the job at hand and creating problems on set - it is a tiny faction, who frankly take an issue with everything, all the time, who want them. It's bad enough having to CONSTANTLY ask for consent to 'touch' people or even get 'close' to them while your working on the most basic of scenes. This is not to say people were not exploited or treat badly in the past - but creating a new paranoid, uncomfortable energy on set around any form of human contact, only inhibits creatvity and the best kind of work from being done.
If they can make everything sexless, bland, safe and uninteresting, they will. Game of Thrones without those scenes would have been unremarkable as well. So would Ghost, Don't Look Now, Brokeback Mountain, Eyes Wide Shut, The Hunger, and a thousand other shows and movies. How I despise, that Hollywood is taken over by buttoned-up Puritans and Prudes. They, in effect, brought back the Hays Code, at the same time as they were inspired by mid-to-late century Eastern European-style indoctrination. It is intolerable!
I feel like you owe the actual puritans an apology. Frankly, everyone using the word should be smacked in the face because they’re using it wrong. The puritans, whether you like them or not, had an internally consistent series of views and beliefs. The people who you’re calling puritans do not. They might want to remove sex scenes in movies, but they also say sex work is real work and empowering (you could argue about the first, but it definitely isn’t the second). Things are also bland because they aren’t good writers. They don’t want good and bad. That means there’s some kind of standard to which their own behavior cm be compared. Get an actual Puritan to write a story, and you would at least have recognizable heroes and villains.
@@John-fk2kyNo, they are not using it wrong (sic). By which I assume you mean 'using it incorrectly'. First off, people who object to seeing/having simulated sex in films covers a very wide range indeed of people and many of them would never want to legalise 'sex work'. Most feminists for example are adamantly opposed to that idea as are most women who are, across the western world, more in favour of censorship of sex and nudity than men are, as a group. Secondly your claim that puritans hold consistent views is hilarious, Puritans were a minority within a minority (Separatists) within the Church of England at a time of massive and fast paced religious change. Puritan has been used for hundreds to denote a mindset. The shoe fits here. Own it.
It's weird that Condal wrote, then filmed and directed a gratuitous sex scene and then said that it didn't advance the story. Wouldn't that be obvious in the script?? Creepy.
remember, when Kellogg created corn flakes, his goal was to make a cereal so incredibly bland that it would crush all libido and desire in the consumer of the product. he was a hard-line Puritan who believed that anything carnal was a sin against the almighty and must be weeded out by EVERY means available. modern hollyweird has been taken over by his disciples... cheers.
They've been censoring more and more since season 7 of Game of Thrones, so that's nothing new. As long as the show continues with quality storytelling and acting I don't mind, but it is true that they've cut a lot when it comes to the shocking violence (the final scene in the first ep of the new season) and nude scenes compared to most of GOT. This is supposed to be a show for the mature audience and a core part of it was exactly this type of uncensored content that in GOT was a part of its core aesthetics, even more so in the books themselves.
Nah. Never ever underestimate the ability for the morality police to ruin every single thing they touch. Letting those idiots get a foot in the door is bad enough as it is. I don't tolerate it.
Me : its seems my interest in all things got has waned as the sex did. I think people misunderstand. if YOU are not sexual person you likely don't get it or care. Removing sex is like Removing conflict. It sets a tone. Its a tone I'm looking for. And I'm a masculine guy, so non masculine on feminine sex scenes aren't it. Tapped out on this series. Nothing to do with sex. That's just one symptom.
It's such a weird balance in that sometime in modern TV shows and movies we get Euphorias and Poor Things and then go into concept that are to be more open about sexuality and it's ultra pruddish. We are in a society where Onlyfans exist and yet there's also this "male gaze" bullcrap. But I have to agree with Olivia in the sense that nowadays in entertainment, sex scenes tend to be overly beautiful, polished and idealized and making it more animalistic would have been a good way to explore her character. Like stuck up Alicent would just "unleashes" in bed.
Reminds me of the gaytarget worker who got fired because an onlyfans model walked in without a bra, flashed her breasts and he got fired after she accused him, again agay guy, of "leering" at her. This is the society we live in
The relationship with Cristan doesn't even happen in the books. I have always felt Alicent leaned more into the faith and less in her sexual desires for men, but it's HBO so we won't get anything close to that.
Weird that some people wanted blood and cheese to be even more disturbing. I couldn't even watch it again when I did a rewatch. Who wants to see an even worse version of that??
Ever since I heard about this, it’s like a made up job. I saw an interview about it, and i think you could just have one of the PA do it. Also, there are too many people on movie sets, just no show jobs really.
I wasn't impressed with the first episode. it was kinda all over the place and the last scene made absolutely no sense. If two child killers walk into the room and there are two babies that look exactly the same and a woman I would think they would kill them all. But I was wrong. They leave the woman alive and able to run for help alerting the guards and kill the wrong baby. It's kinda silly. EDIT: Also I hate scenes where you have men on their knees eating women out. Is that a thing? Do loser low tier guys fall to their knees to eat women out? Pathetic.
Porn is not the same as sexual content in a narrative film or TV series. To think it is suggests you have a poor understanding of narrative film, sex, or life generally.
@@Norvik_-ug3ge Sex is sex no matter the medium you present it. If a specifically artistic medium can't present mature themes in ways other than the one explicit way of doing so, then it shows a kind of artistic laziness when they can't even leverage the artistic form that avails them.
yes, remove everything GoT that got it popular in the first place.....I hate Hollywood! So glad I didnt bother watching this show. Fool me once shame on you, there will be no fooling me twice.
Agreed. After the GOT debacle, I can’t invest in any more of this type of show, especially given the insertion of modern sensibilities. F intimacy coordinators.
Fuck me, I‘m glad I told myself to not watch HOTD and wait until the series finale. That way imma spare myself the pain I felt back during GOT season 8.
I don't always think it's necessary to have sex scenes in a film or show. If it doesn't add anything to the story, then there's no need to put it in. However, I don't think it's right for censorship rules to be placed so that no one could ever put it into the story. It should be up to the writer and/or the director to decide if they want to put it into the film/show. If Hollywood has it that they can just censor it at anytime, what's to stop them from censoring something else? I thought we abandoned the Hays Code for a reason.
1) It always adds hot naked people to the story which is always fucking glorious 2) This is the new Hays Code, genius, you just have not realised that.
@@Norvik_-ug3ge I understand that this feels like the new Hays Code. My point still stands, though. There shouldn't be any reason to have another Hays Code.
Mindless sex scenes are by far the most boring, soulless scenes in modern day series. It doesn't help the story forward, in fact I suspect they just throw it in because the writers are not really that good these days (not talking about HotD off course). It's just filler.
Nudity and sex in TV is like a cat; if it fits, it sits... GOT was harsh in every way, there was bloody fighting, skinning of animals, nudity, sex, and it fitted the feel of the series. Same as HBO's OZ, Rome or The Sopranos. Then you had series like Spartacus that basically used sex like a crutch. But looking at series nowadays I don't even know which ones are making the mindless sex scenes you're talking about.
Guys, why don’t you come prepared before you start the video? “Do you have the article? Where is it? Scroll down… Is this it?” YEESH! Get your act together!
You guys missed to review the so called most misogynist bollywood movie of the year directed by a tollywood director, the movie is called Animal. Anyways don't miss Kalki, it's gonna be released on 27 june, it's the most expensive Indian movie ever made.
I love the channel. The insights are better than most, and you don't typically deviate into the culture war aspect unless it directly involves the quality of whatever it is that you're reviewing But…😉, my one gripe are segments focused around an article that you're going to show. I can't remember the last video that didn't involve at least two minutes of Chris fumbling around for it, while Alan says numerous times "i have it right here, do you want me to pull it up?" For the love of God, if you can't pull it up in a few seconds, let Alan pull it up so we can return to our regularly scheduled program. Or have it bookmarked or minimized and ready to go. Otherwise it gets… 😮💨 tedious.
I do think nudity is overused to deflect from bad writing, but to do away with it completely is wrong, intimate scenes can reveal aspects about the character and can add to the story. Also there is nothing wrong with sex appeal.
A lot of people are embarrassed or feel very uncomfortable with sex scenes in film. I feel it’s a persons hang ups that dictate whether they can watch a R rated sex scene or not.
I personally like it better that they’ve cut back on the sex and nudity. It never made the story better for me in any show I’ve watched. I did watch all of GoT and enjoyed most of the show, the sex scenes just seemed unnecessary to me. I have friends that started watching GoT and stopped because of all the sex. I guess not everything is for everybody though.
Why should a sex scene 'make the story better'? Why is that a reason to include or exclude that content? Most people, normal people, are sexual human beings. Seeing sex on screen excites their own sexual response in the same way that a horror movie makes them scared or with a jump fright. In other words it is enjoyable in and of itself, it doesn't need to 'make the story better' because it IS the story, at that point in time. Dude, why the need to rain on other people's parade? 😬
I'm pissed off that I bought the first season of House of The Dragon, I should have known not to trust morons that will blatantly pretend something isn't woke when it's filled with nothing but feminist tropes, like everything else. I barely made it past the first episode, turned it off and never tried to watch it again and I never will.
You're right, it is feminist drivel. And the first season does not even come close to the quality of GoT season 1. What are these reviewers watching???
Copius amounts of sex was always just a flandarized aspect of asoiaf. Yes George wrote about characters who had alot of sex, but we didn't need to see it every other scene to understand it.
There's a difference between that and ripping it out of the show for politically correct reasons. It's gross. A lot more gross than the sex scenes themselves because that shit poisons the rest of the show.
We also don't need to see blood and murder every other scene to understand it, yet, here we are. These arguments, like yours, are self-serving at best.
Bruh, you guys did an episode before. Chris's stroke complaining about sex scenes. Literally said the words, "no movie was made better because of a sex scene". You're just proving that you need something to hate on and fell off the logic path.
In the best shows/movies the sex and violence is implied and leaves much to the imagination. Most graphic scenes are for shock value and add nothing to the story.
Wtf are you talking about? *spoilers* I just saw the first episode, and in almost the first scene we see the captain of the guard "eating out" lady hightower ?... then there is the infamous scene with the ratcatchers, where the queen walks in on that same couple knocking boots.. the rest of the cast is still mourning the child killed by the elder dragon at the end of the first season...
Got had too much. I couldn’t watch passed episode four. It felt like I was watching a show about sex and barbarism. It’s like lord of the rings with constant sex throughout.
Honestly, I think movies and TV shows are better with less s*x scenes and nudity. It was WAY too prominent in GoT, and it seemed mostly be put as fillers.
You can have sexy without sex scenes and nudity. We need sexy. As humans we're hardwired to look for and enjoy sexy. Beautiful people in beautiful clothing can be sexy. But sex scenes, well, we have the hubz for that.
...So you're going to let the woke moral police make changes to the script to make that happen? Where have you been for the past decade? It never ever stops there. If a script writer wants a sex scene put in, they should put it in. If you and enough people want it out, THEY should be the ones convinced to do it on their own. Art should never be censored by third party bureaucracies. Never.
@@MundaneThingsBackwards You're missing my point: I wasn't talking about censorship but about the oversexualisation of media in general. In the case f GoT, I stopped watching because at some points, I felt like I was watching (torture) p*rn.
Who cares? In an age where you have plenty of salacious and adult material you can get on the various adult oriented websites, why do you need such sex scenes in movies and TV? I understand, back when I was growing up ( I am 47), why having sex scenes would be enticing. That was the age, prior to the Internet, when such material was hard to find, and so you were obsessed with seeing movies like Basic Instinct or 9 and 1/2 weeks for the sex scenes. Nowadays, with a few simple keystrokes you have an endless array of explicit material at your finger tips. I would rather movie producers leave such scenes out of movies and TV. They are a needless digression from the story, and they are cringy to watch when you are viewing a film or show with someone else.
Same age, roughly. Could not disagree more. Have watched tons of European narrative cinema drenched in gorgeous, gratuitous sex and nudity. Massively better for the films concerned and for me growing up without your hang-ups. I don't cringe. Porn is not art, is not narrative film or TV, and if that's all you ever got from a sex scene, then I feel sad for your lack of taste in viewing choices.
@@Norvik_-ug3ge Good storytelling requires that scenes contribute to how riveting the plot is and should add to the character development. It should move the story forward. If the scene does not do that, it is superfluous. How is showing a sex scene going to do that? Yes, if the film is directly about romance, maybe some scenes of intimacy are required. However, in most cases, with respect to mainstream American cinema and TV, sex scenes seem forced into a narrative simply for the purposes of titillation. Its prurient.
Then I might actually watch. Since Game of Thrones and 90% of HBO crap tends to use sex as a gimmick and not a natural part of the narrative. So, maybe taking that out to focus on relevant story, might make the show better. I mean it was weird enough that Game of Thrones was supposed to be MIDDLE AGES Fantasy, yet they swore like Millennials playing Call of Duty. I mean it is one of the main things I HATE ABOUT MAJORITY OF HBO shows, they're edgy for edgy sake and it takes away from the story that they're trying to tell.
I’m only 11 seconds into the video as I write this comment. You’re upset there aren’t a lot of sex scenes? Do you need that to enjoy a TV Show? I skipped half of season 1 because there were too much profanity and nude scenes, if season 2 cuts that down, I’m happy.
I mean that's essentially the concept of Game of Thrones. If I watch Band of Brothers, the last thing I'm interested in seeing are sex scenes. But if I watch something that is known for sex and violence and shocking assassinations, that is what I want to see.
@@mikedisd3 Lol! I like it too. It's what's in the books. That being said - if the show is good without - fair. Nah nudity and sex - make it clever make it good.
Yeah I go back and forth. I think for me in Game of Thrones the violence was way more disturbing and made it harder for me to watch. I actually raged quit GoT after the Red Wedding. I came back after I matured a little a few years later and simply skipped the red wedding when it came up again. I did stop after the White Walkers took Hardhold. 1 because Zombies actually do freak me out and second. I heard the writing just sucked afterwards. House of the Dragon has been much more palatable for me and that's why I like House of the Dragon more. I do like that they're focusing on storytelling rather than gratuitous sex and violence but I think sex is actually much more healthy for you to watch than violence is. Then again seeing violence also shows the dark reality of why violence is bad. So I can see that perspective too. I think right now in our current culture. I think men and women need to be having more sex. There has been a really wedge that has been driven between men and women and I think for Millenials specifically, we really need to find love and have children. I think it would be so healthy for our world right now.
I think the violence needs to be drastically reduced as well. They can cut away at the last moment, or imply it happens, and it works just as well. And can we possibly tone down the language?
I hate we are only getting men's ds and butts now! The double standard is bullshit!
Just wait until women relise they cannot get hired because they look good.
Yup, no one wants to see that. No one.
GoT started to dial back the sex after the Sansa sex/rape scene.
They got a lotta of flack over the gratuitous nudity before that because people were like wtf
@@buckiemohawk3643Cool story, but…ERRONEOUS.
yep the MeToo movement ruins everything
'Sensitivity readers', no matter what they call themselves, ruin everything they touch. Absolutely everything.
Modern morality sensors. Fucking useless.
"Karens" with an agenda.
Agreed. They've ruined video games
Kind of like Chris gore who is offended by everything.
@@UA-cam_Censored_Me that’s what came to my mind as well. All these “sensitivity consultants” destroying popular franchises and developers, then attacking gamers when their games don’t sell.
It sounds like she was saying sex is gratuitous unless the woman is enjoying it...
Yeah I caught that too. You'll see that in a lot of scenes these days, woman on top and in control, bra still on. It's all about power.
Hollywood has truly started to reach the Demolition Man Era where physical contact is disgusting and we all sing Oscar Mayer Weiner songs.
If it fits then cool - but a lot of GOT sex scenes were a bit much…
Intimacy "coordinators" is the title, but really it's intimacy removers.
Unlesss it’s DEIsex.
As an actor myself, most actors DO NOT want intimacy co-ordinators, interfering with the job at hand and creating problems on set - it is a tiny faction, who frankly take an issue with everything, all the time, who want them. It's bad enough having to CONSTANTLY ask for consent to 'touch' people or even get 'close' to them while your working on the most basic of scenes. This is not to say people were not exploited or treat badly in the past - but creating a new paranoid, uncomfortable energy on set around any form of human contact, only inhibits creatvity and the best kind of work from being done.
Guy: "I consent." Girl: "I consent." Intimacy Coordinator: "I don't."
If they can make everything sexless, bland, safe and uninteresting, they will. Game of Thrones without those scenes would have been unremarkable as well. So would Ghost, Don't Look Now, Brokeback Mountain, Eyes Wide Shut, The Hunger, and a thousand other shows and movies. How I despise, that Hollywood is taken over by buttoned-up Puritans and Prudes. They, in effect, brought back the Hays Code, at the same time as they were inspired by mid-to-late century Eastern European-style indoctrination. It is intolerable!
Movies and media of the semi distant future- Just a gray screen. Everything else is too offensive, and they're even considering removing the gray
I feel like you owe the actual puritans an apology. Frankly, everyone using the word should be smacked in the face because they’re using it wrong. The puritans, whether you like them or not, had an internally consistent series of views and beliefs. The people who you’re calling puritans do not. They might want to remove sex scenes in movies, but they also say sex work is real work and empowering (you could argue about the first, but it definitely isn’t the second).
Things are also bland because they aren’t good writers. They don’t want good and bad. That means there’s some kind of standard to which their own behavior cm be compared. Get an actual Puritan to write a story, and you would at least have recognizable heroes and villains.
@@John-fk2ky Meanings of words change over time, and calling them (lower case) puritans is just easier
They're not puritans, though. Notice they only censor stuff that the straight majority likes.
@@John-fk2kyNo, they are not using it wrong (sic). By which I assume you mean 'using it incorrectly'. First off, people who object to seeing/having simulated sex in films covers a very wide range indeed of people and many of them would never want to legalise 'sex work'. Most feminists for example are adamantly opposed to that idea as are most women who are, across the western world, more in favour of censorship of sex and nudity than men are, as a group. Secondly your claim that puritans hold consistent views is hilarious, Puritans were a minority within a minority (Separatists) within the Church of England at a time of massive and fast paced religious change. Puritan has been used for hundreds to denote a mindset. The shoe fits here. Own it.
It's weird that Condal wrote, then filmed and directed a gratuitous sex scene and then said that it didn't advance the story. Wouldn't that be obvious in the script?? Creepy.
How do you deal with a big bush? Can you shave it?
Sex missing. Brutality of Blood and Cheese missing.
remember, when Kellogg created corn flakes, his goal was to make a cereal so incredibly bland that it would crush all libido and desire in the consumer of the product. he was a hard-line Puritan who believed that anything carnal was a sin against the almighty and must be weeded out by EVERY means available. modern hollyweird has been taken over by his disciples... cheers.
Why is it consultants in any industry just make things worse?
Too many cooks destroy the meal.
" So you really thoroughly examined this article" - Chris.
Yes, yes Alan did.
They've been censoring more and more since season 7 of Game of Thrones, so that's nothing new. As long as the show continues with quality storytelling and acting I don't mind, but it is true that they've cut a lot when it comes to the shocking violence (the final scene in the first ep of the new season) and nude scenes compared to most of GOT. This is supposed to be a show for the mature audience and a core part of it was exactly this type of uncensored content that in GOT was a part of its core aesthetics, even more so in the books themselves.
Nah. Never ever underestimate the ability for the morality police to ruin every single thing they touch. Letting those idiots get a foot in the door is bad enough as it is. I don't tolerate it.
Man, this over sensitive generation is terrible.
Give me Spartacus. There's a show that knew what the people wanted.
Me : its seems my interest in all things got has waned as the sex did.
I think people misunderstand. if YOU are not sexual person you likely don't get it or care.
Removing sex is like Removing conflict. It sets a tone. Its a tone I'm looking for. And I'm a masculine guy, so non masculine on feminine sex scenes aren't it.
Tapped out on this series. Nothing to do with sex. That's just one symptom.
It's such a weird balance in that sometime in modern TV shows and movies we get Euphorias and Poor Things and then go into concept that are to be more open about sexuality and it's ultra pruddish. We are in a society where Onlyfans exist and yet there's also this "male gaze" bullcrap.
But I have to agree with Olivia in the sense that nowadays in entertainment, sex scenes tend to be overly beautiful, polished and idealized and making it more animalistic would have been a good way to explore her character. Like stuck up Alicent would just "unleashes" in bed.
Reminds me of the gaytarget worker who got fired because an onlyfans model walked in without a bra, flashed her breasts and he got fired after she accused him, again agay guy, of "leering" at her. This is the society we live in
@@UA-cam_Censored_Me 🤣🤣🤣🤣
It's not gratuitous when I'm getting mine. 😂😂😂
The relationship with Cristan doesn't even happen in the books. I have always felt Alicent leaned more into the faith and less in her sexual desires for men, but it's HBO so we won't get anything close to that.
Sorry they removed everyone's soft porn.
There was way less sex in the latter seasons of Game of Thrones. One of the many reasons it sucked.
Weird that some people wanted blood and cheese to be even more disturbing. I couldn't even watch it again when I did a rewatch. Who wants to see an even worse version of that??
Ever since I heard about this, it’s like a made up job. I saw an interview about it, and i think you could just have one of the PA do it. Also, there are too many people on movie sets, just no show jobs really.
I wasn't impressed with the first episode. it was kinda all over the place and the last scene made absolutely no sense. If two child killers walk into the room and there are two babies that look exactly the same and a woman I would think they would kill them all. But I was wrong. They leave the woman alive and able to run for help alerting the guards and kill the wrong baby. It's kinda silly. EDIT: Also I hate scenes where you have men on their knees eating women out. Is that a thing? Do loser low tier guys fall to their knees to eat women out? Pathetic.
2 sex scenes in episode 1 not enough?
Alan lmao. Season 2 seems slow to me so far. I trust it's going to pick up in a big way at some point here. Haven't read the book, so, we'll see.
I mean you don't need that much sex in a TV show for general audiences. I already got porn for that. This is not worth complaining guys.
It's odd to me how people act like porn does not exist.
@@DaisukiJesusEven odder to think porn is the same as sexual content in narrative film. Weird, weird, weird...
You don't 'need' TV full stop. Sex is part of life and should not be omitted from narrative film or TV because some people have hang-ups...
Porn is not the same as sexual content in a narrative film or TV series. To think it is suggests you have a poor understanding of narrative film, sex, or life generally.
@@Norvik_-ug3ge Sex is sex no matter the medium you present it. If a specifically artistic medium can't present mature themes in ways other than the one explicit way of doing so, then it shows a kind of artistic laziness when they can't even leverage the artistic form that avails them.
Honestly, less sex doesn’t bother me. You can easily convey intimacy with subtlety without denigrating into softcore porn.
best things about GOT was the blood violence sex and killing and shock
lol ha.f this clip is Chris and Alan fumbling over pulling up an article
Was this a video about you guys getting ready to make a video?
more , hey people just don't do it, eugenics.
Waited two years for blood and cheese and they fucked it up so bad.
That they did
Could you imagine dating an intimacy coordinator 🤮
yes, remove everything GoT that got it popular in the first place.....I hate Hollywood! So glad I didnt bother watching this show. Fool me once shame on you, there will be no fooling me twice.
Agreed. After the GOT debacle, I can’t invest in any more of this type of show, especially given the insertion of modern sensibilities. F intimacy coordinators.
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Fuck me, I‘m glad I told myself to not watch HOTD and wait until the series finale. That way imma spare myself the pain I felt back during GOT season 8.
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I don't always think it's necessary to have sex scenes in a film or show. If it doesn't add anything to the story, then there's no need to put it in. However, I don't think it's right for censorship rules to be placed so that no one could ever put it into the story. It should be up to the writer and/or the director to decide if they want to put it into the film/show. If Hollywood has it that they can just censor it at anytime, what's to stop them from censoring something else? I thought we abandoned the Hays Code for a reason.
1) It always adds hot naked people to the story which is always fucking glorious
2) This is the new Hays Code, genius, you just have not realised that.
@@Norvik_-ug3ge I understand that this feels like the new Hays Code. My point still stands, though. There shouldn't be any reason to have another Hays Code.
I'm ok with less sex scenes.
Mindless sex scenes are by far the most boring, soulless scenes in modern day series. It doesn't help the story forward, in fact I suspect they just throw it in because the writers are not really that good these days (not talking about HotD off course). It's just filler.
Nudity and sex in TV is like a cat; if it fits, it sits... GOT was harsh in every way, there was bloody fighting, skinning of animals, nudity, sex, and it fitted the feel of the series. Same as HBO's OZ, Rome or The Sopranos. Then you had series like Spartacus that basically used sex like a crutch. But looking at series nowadays I don't even know which ones are making the mindless sex scenes you're talking about.
Thank you
Sex scenes are lazy, and unimaginative. Boring tropes for weak writers. Not romance scenes but sex scenes
Um so your saying
Sex doesn't Sell... Right😮
@Realbeardedgamerdad not disagreeing with any of that... But Sex Sells it's just a fact.
Good.
Guys, why don’t you come prepared before you start the video? “Do you have the article? Where is it? Scroll down… Is this it?” YEESH! Get your act together!
Relax - sex in movies and shows is pure cringe. The Internet exists now if you want that.
You guys missed to review the so called most misogynist bollywood movie of the year directed by a tollywood director, the movie is called Animal. Anyways don't miss Kalki, it's gonna be released on 27 june, it's the most expensive Indian movie ever made.
I love the channel. The insights are better than most, and you don't typically deviate into the culture war aspect unless it directly involves the quality of whatever it is that you're reviewing
But…😉, my one gripe are segments focused around an article that you're going to show. I can't remember the last video that didn't involve at least two minutes of Chris fumbling around for it, while Alan says numerous times "i have it right here, do you want me to pull it up?" For the love of God, if you can't pull it up in a few seconds, let Alan pull it up so we can return to our regularly scheduled program. Or have it bookmarked or minimized and ready to go.
Otherwise it gets… 😮💨 tedious.
I do think nudity is overused to deflect from bad writing, but to do away with it completely is wrong, intimate scenes can reveal aspects about the character and can add to the story. Also there is nothing wrong with sex appeal.
Alan had all the right parts of the article memorized! 🤣
"you're almost on to the best part, Chris!" - Alan
Where is it? Episode one has taco Tuesday going on, so……
Sensitivity consultants destroy art because art should, by definition, attack your sensibilities.
Uhm, no. That's only your own personal definition of art. And people who think like you never create good art.
Nothing.necessary abiut these things.
L take
Nah, HBO shows need more boobs.
A lot of people are embarrassed or feel very uncomfortable with sex scenes in film. I feel it’s a persons hang ups that dictate whether they can watch a R rated sex scene or not.
"Can watch it" is not the same as "want to watch it"... If I want to watch a sex scene, I'll just open a porn site.
Good.
Good news. Good reasons.
Gratuitous sex scenes made Game of Thrones very stupid.
I personally like it better that they’ve cut back on the sex and nudity. It never made the story better for me in any show I’ve watched. I did watch all of GoT and enjoyed most of the show, the sex scenes just seemed unnecessary to me. I have friends that started watching GoT and stopped because of all the sex. I guess not everything is for everybody though.
Why should a sex scene 'make the story better'? Why is that a reason to include or exclude that content? Most people, normal people, are sexual human beings. Seeing sex on screen excites their own sexual response in the same way that a horror movie makes them scared or with a jump fright. In other words it is enjoyable in and of itself, it doesn't need to 'make the story better' because it IS the story, at that point in time. Dude, why the need to rain on other people's parade? 😬
Not watched first episode yet. Is it woke now? Please mo
not anymore woke than the first season.Still has good writing
@@Somebody-pq1jq great, will watch tonight
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I'm pissed off that I bought the first season of House of The Dragon, I should have known not to trust morons that will blatantly pretend something isn't woke when it's filled with nothing but feminist tropes, like everything else. I barely made it past the first episode, turned it off and never tried to watch it again and I never will.
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It's there but there's enough good shit in it to enjoy. The wokies are annoying but we should not become as obsessed as them.
You're right, it is feminist drivel. And the first season does not even come close to the quality of GoT season 1. What are these reviewers watching???
@@johnnyskinwalker4095 Whether there are good things in it or not, supporting their content in any fashion is still keeping them in power and Rich.
Why would you buy anything modern Hollywood? Why are you funding people who hate you and consider you as the enemy?
I’m fine with less sex scene tbh George RR Martin was always too much of a pervert lol
Good. The Brienne&Jaime sex scene did more damage to these characters than the white walkers could have ever done. And that's only one example.
Copius amounts of sex was always just a flandarized aspect of asoiaf. Yes George wrote about characters who had alot of sex, but we didn't need to see it every other scene to understand it.
There's a difference between that and ripping it out of the show for politically correct reasons. It's gross. A lot more gross than the sex scenes themselves because that shit poisons the rest of the show.
We also don't need to see blood and murder every other scene to understand it, yet, here we are. These arguments, like yours, are self-serving at best.
Explicit nudity is used as a distraction that poor writers/directors use to trick the audience to watch their show.
Bruh, you guys did an episode before. Chris's stroke complaining about sex scenes. Literally said the words, "no movie was made better because of a sex scene".
You're just proving that you need something to hate on and fell off the logic path.
You could easily have two versions, one with all the sex cut out.
In the best shows/movies the sex and violence is implied and leaves much to the imagination. Most graphic scenes are for shock value and add nothing to the story.
Wtf are you talking about? *spoilers* I just saw the first episode, and in almost the first scene we see the captain of the guard "eating out" lady hightower ?... then there is the infamous scene with the ratcatchers, where the queen walks in on that same couple knocking boots.. the rest of the cast is still mourning the child killed by the elder dragon at the end of the first season...
You're asking too much guys, no more sexy time, is "very offensive"
Got had too much. I couldn’t watch passed episode four. It felt like I was watching a show about sex and barbarism. It’s like lord of the rings with constant sex throughout.
Chris, watch, review the Boys please.
Honestly, I think movies and TV shows are better with less s*x scenes and nudity. It was WAY too prominent in GoT, and it seemed mostly be put as fillers.
You can have sexy without sex scenes and nudity. We need sexy. As humans we're hardwired to look for and enjoy sexy. Beautiful people in beautiful clothing can be sexy. But sex scenes, well, we have the hubz for that.
...So you're going to let the woke moral police make changes to the script to make that happen? Where have you been for the past decade? It never ever stops there. If a script writer wants a sex scene put in, they should put it in. If you and enough people want it out, THEY should be the ones convinced to do it on their own. Art should never be censored by third party bureaucracies. Never.
@@MundaneThingsBackwards You're missing my point: I wasn't talking about censorship but about the oversexualisation of media in general. In the case f GoT, I stopped watching because at some points, I felt like I was watching (torture) p*rn.
So Christian conservatives are woke now? Interesting.
Who cares? In an age where you have plenty of salacious and adult material you can get on the various adult oriented websites, why do you need such sex scenes in movies and TV? I understand, back when I was growing up ( I am 47), why having sex scenes would be enticing. That was the age, prior to the Internet, when such material was hard to find, and so you were obsessed with seeing movies like Basic Instinct or 9 and 1/2 weeks for the sex scenes. Nowadays, with a few simple keystrokes you have an endless array of explicit material at your finger tips. I would rather movie producers leave such scenes out of movies and TV. They are a needless digression from the story, and they are cringy to watch when you are viewing a film or show with someone else.
Same age, roughly. Could not disagree more. Have watched tons of European narrative cinema drenched in gorgeous, gratuitous sex and nudity. Massively better for the films concerned and for me growing up without your hang-ups. I don't cringe. Porn is not art, is not narrative film or TV, and if that's all you ever got from a sex scene, then I feel sad for your lack of taste in viewing choices.
@@Norvik_-ug3ge Good storytelling requires that scenes contribute to how riveting the plot is and should add to the character development. It should move the story forward. If the scene does not do that, it is superfluous. How is showing a sex scene going to do that? Yes, if the film is directly about romance, maybe some scenes of intimacy are required. However, in most cases, with respect to mainstream American cinema and TV, sex scenes seem forced into a narrative simply for the purposes of titillation. Its prurient.
Nah....too many sex scenes on streaming now.... focus on what's more important.... story and writing..... please don't watch for the wrong reasons...
Then I might actually watch. Since Game of Thrones and 90% of HBO crap tends to use sex as a gimmick and not a natural part of the narrative. So, maybe taking that out to focus on relevant story, might make the show better. I mean it was weird enough that Game of Thrones was supposed to be MIDDLE AGES Fantasy, yet they swore like Millennials playing Call of Duty. I mean it is one of the main things I HATE ABOUT MAJORITY OF HBO shows, they're edgy for edgy sake and it takes away from the story that they're trying to tell.
I’m only 11 seconds into the video as I write this comment. You’re upset there aren’t a lot of sex scenes?
Do you need that to enjoy a TV Show? I skipped half of season 1 because there were too much profanity and nude scenes, if season 2 cuts that down, I’m happy.
Why do you have to have such a polar view? He didn't say he needed that to enjoy a show, you're jumping to conclusions based on your own biases.
@@aldunlop4622 I literally just said that. What’s your point?
@@aldunlop4622 Also you damn right I have my own biases, I’m not a movie critic, I don’t care about the public
I mean that's essentially the concept of Game of Thrones. If I watch Band of Brothers, the last thing I'm interested in seeing are sex scenes. But if I watch something that is known for sex and violence and shocking assassinations, that is what I want to see.
if you dont like sex in your TV shows, you can watch Barny.
If we can mostly do away with graphic sex and nudity in movies and TV that’d be great
Well I like it.
You can close your eyes when someone is naked on screen but other people like it
@@Darkstar_Dayne way to miss the point of his comment.
@@mikedisd3 Lol!
I like it too. It's what's in the books. That being said - if the show is good without - fair.
Nah nudity and sex - make it clever make it good.
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Yeah I go back and forth. I think for me in Game of Thrones the violence was way more disturbing and made it harder for me to watch. I actually raged quit GoT after the Red Wedding. I came back after I matured a little a few years later and simply skipped the red wedding when it came up again. I did stop after the White Walkers took Hardhold. 1 because Zombies actually do freak me out and second. I heard the writing just sucked afterwards. House of the Dragon has been much more palatable for me and that's why I like House of the Dragon more. I do like that they're focusing on storytelling rather than gratuitous sex and violence but I think sex is actually much more healthy for you to watch than violence is. Then again seeing violence also shows the dark reality of why violence is bad. So I can see that perspective too. I think right now in our current culture. I think men and women need to be having more sex. There has been a really wedge that has been driven between men and women and I think for Millenials specifically, we really need to find love and have children. I think it would be so healthy for our world right now.
I think the violence needs to be drastically reduced as well. They can cut away at the last moment, or imply it happens, and it works just as well. And can we possibly tone down the language?
ok great great victorian age grandma.
Your obsession with watching actors have fake sex with each other on screen is pretty disturbing
You do not sound healthy.
Olivia Cooke is not pretty enough for a good scene