TOP 3 CREDIT GRINDERS IN WORLD OF TANKS BLITZ

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  • @noobepro_7146
    @noobepro_7146 2 роки тому +112

    Now, with free shell, free tank repair, and earning credits from medal just make life easier

    • @Dirkkkkk
      @Dirkkkkk 2 роки тому +10

      Yeah. Another thing ruining the game and letting the worst players drag down top tier gameplay.

    • @sardonicspartan9343
      @sardonicspartan9343 2 роки тому +2

      @@Dirkkkkk That was already happening.

    • @bammbammdb1
      @bammbammdb1 2 роки тому +3

      Exactly. Play a tank you like and are good with. Stack up those masteries.
      My favorite personal credit grinder is a t7 t-44-85.

    • @90skid91
      @90skid91 2 роки тому +4

      Lookin bak 8 years ago, we've all grown but not WG.

    • @whyyoumadbro2370
      @whyyoumadbro2370 2 роки тому +2

      @@Dirkkkkk Yeah that's one really big downside. Though I'm just glad I'm not getting bankrupt most of the time now playing something for fun

  • @atlas3556
    @atlas3556 2 роки тому +33

    My favorite grinder is the Löwe. It IMO is by far the best German Tier 8 heavy (competing with the VK.100.01). The gun is very accurate and with cali has 246 mm of avpen with standard ammo. It's extremely effective when used properly

    • @atlas3556
      @atlas3556 Рік тому +10

      @@cropduster123 Classic Löwe W. You lose a match and you still win. And if you win a match, that's two wins.

    • @Marco_Eriks_2003
      @Marco_Eriks_2003 Рік тому +1

      Ok I like the Lowe too sens it's my favorite tank it's been 3year I haven't get it.

    • @vasylt5957
      @vasylt5957 Рік тому

      Yea Lowe and e75 keiler.

    • @Danielbros9
      @Danielbros9 8 місяців тому

      But I think keiler is better

  • @robertomontes4372
    @robertomontes4372 2 роки тому +10

    ive been playing for 8 years and im just glad that compared to the beginning of the game its so muvh easier to make credits than before. i remember not being able to make any with the normal tech tree lines and now im making a good amount.

  • @knockingmaster2174
    @knockingmaster2174 2 роки тому +11

    Nicceee the old intro reminds me of the 2014/2015 days in blitz I totally miss your old vids uncle bushka! I remember i was 50% before subscribing your channel after many years because of your tips and guides i made it to 65% so really thank you for all efforts you put in your explanations

  • @nicedraeger2794
    @nicedraeger2794 2 роки тому +18

    I've missed getting the chimera so many times that I'm determined to get it next time I see it. You sold me on it!

    • @copythat9040
      @copythat9040 2 роки тому +2

      The tank is just so good with troll armor for a medium gun is lazer accurate and you can out trade heavys that's why this thing was 1% drop chance from the free crates at the championships wg just knows how good it is

    • @copythat9040
      @copythat9040 2 роки тому +1

      Im at 230 games played in the tank with 70% winrate and 2200 average damege

    • @BushkaOnBlitz
      @BushkaOnBlitz  2 роки тому +5

      It’s a very very good tank

    • @copythat9040
      @copythat9040 2 роки тому

      @@BushkaOnBlitz basically almost the same stats as my annihilator on the winrate at least

    • @CasperTheRestless
      @CasperTheRestless 2 роки тому

      I just got it through the auction and while I definitely prefer my Lorraine 40t, the Chimera is an amazing tank that should not be looked down on, even if it's armor wasn't so troll, it would still be good

  • @Nic-uk9cf
    @Nic-uk9cf Рік тому +4

    My first premium tank was T2 Light in 2014-2015. It was the only one for like 1-2 year. After, LTP, BT-7 Art., T7 Car, T1E6 and other. But the old T2 will be always in my heart

  • @herbertgearing1702
    @herbertgearing1702 Рік тому +4

    The lowe is a beast in gravity mode, as it's only limiting factor is the power to weight ratio, it's traverse is quite good and it's top speed is reasonably high for a 90 tonne tank. It all works together in reduced gravity enough weight for traction and ramming, traverse that makes you feel very agile, the gun is fantastic with great aim time, great accuracy, pen, and velocity, troll armor +speed =frustration.

  • @ahklys1321
    @ahklys1321 Рік тому +1

    So glad to see you still around Bushka

  • @gamerdudesofblitz5562
    @gamerdudesofblitz5562 2 роки тому +6

    I never aced the Lowe at 4.5 k around damages, only aced it at 5.2 k damage

  • @Magz215
    @Magz215 2 роки тому +8

    If by some miracle there's someone out there who doesn't agree with these 3 I'd suggest:
    T34 - High pen, reliable turret and gun handing
    WZ-112-2 - For people who like the Soviet style heavy game play (I think it's the best version of all of them)
    Type 59 - Ole' reliable for years on my account and is still doing the business.

    • @BushkaOnBlitz
      @BushkaOnBlitz  2 роки тому +4

      Yeah 59 still solid I even rolled mod1 with some success

  • @junction6_m27VNC
    @junction6_m27VNC 2 роки тому +9

    If you don’t have a Lowe then your missing out on so much, everyone should have one, ok it’s slow but a platoon of Lowes can be great fun just not for the reds though lol

    • @stan3449
      @stan3449 2 роки тому

      Why would you play the Lowe when you can plan the Tiger 2 ?

    • @junction6_m27VNC
      @junction6_m27VNC 2 роки тому

      @@stan3449 credit earning, obviously the tiger 2 is a lot better and more fun but the Lowe is a nice change

  • @ksuma715
    @ksuma715 2 роки тому +7

    Mr Lowe Lowe

  • @AJR-07
    @AJR-07 2 роки тому +6

    Hey bushka, use reticle calibration on the chimera!

  • @sherryhilbert7888
    @sherryhilbert7888 2 роки тому +1

    Lowe and jagpan8.8 and t34 from your recommendations from back in the day one of my favorite UA-camrs 4 Blitz glad to see you're back making videos hope all is well

  • @rhineriver4519
    @rhineriver4519 2 роки тому +1

    Out standing video thank you, nice to see a few of the old guard checking in once in awhile

  • @shindagaming7011
    @shindagaming7011 Рік тому +1

    How do u check what the credit coefficient for a tank is?

  • @jonasprusek4511
    @jonasprusek4511 2 роки тому +2

    I have to completely agree, that when it comes to credit grinding, consistency is everything. That why I would basically roll out all T8 TD (maybe expect OP-WZ) and light tanks. Good pen and DPM are also super important. Also run Cali on all tanks you want grind credits with

    • @alexbevan2183
      @alexbevan2183 2 роки тому

      Actually I would say the scorpion G is a half decent credit earner! It’s. Not very high but as long as you get 2 hits it’s good

  • @duffyfive0632
    @duffyfive0632 2 роки тому +4

    Fantastic game in the Löwe!!!
    We need more of that massive potato, Maxie!!!
    Hat Tip Bushka!!

  • @trololo666
    @trololo666 2 роки тому +4

    JG TIGER 8.8 is good for credits as well from my experience T34 ain't bad either u rarely need Gold shells and it's OK in hull down accuracy is great 0.28 I think aim time is bit on long side still I like it since I got it for free

  • @kenmcmurter3069
    @kenmcmurter3069 2 роки тому +4

    I LOVE the look of the Chimera.! I disagree on the poor mobility.. might have a lower speed, but it reacts great, and drives super smooth. I guess that's why we all have our personal opinions.

    • @IanSumallo
      @IanSumallo 2 роки тому +4

      True. The Chim isn't slow if you consider it as a fast heavy, since it's quite decently armored and carries a big stick.

    • @kenmcmurter3069
      @kenmcmurter3069 2 роки тому +2

      @@IanSumallo truth is.. im strictly a heavy tank player lol.. it's the only med I own. So from my perspective, it's not slow. Maybe if I was used to faster tanks I would notice.. but the power to weight seems descent.

    • @IanSumallo
      @IanSumallo 2 роки тому +1

      @@kenmcmurter3069 Eyyyyy! Fellow heavy tank main! Same here. I actually also can't play any faster meds properly. Recently, I discovered that the Titan 54 and T54 Mod 1 are also both slow enough and armored enough that I can somewhat play it like a fast heavy.

    • @BushkaOnBlitz
      @BushkaOnBlitz  2 роки тому +2

      It’s faster and more nimble than you’d expect for something with the armour/gun profile

  • @danielshearer812
    @danielshearer812 2 роки тому +3

    Nice content, sir. Well done. Dare I say it: professionally produced. Keep up the good work, mate.

  • @coltforester7985
    @coltforester7985 2 роки тому +2

    Received 200k credits in the grille 5900 dmg 1 kill win mastery

  • @bitcornfarmer6868
    @bitcornfarmer6868 2 роки тому +1

    ThNk goodness your back bushka! Now I don’t have to listen to that droodles puberty kid to get my UA-cam fix

  • @PandyMany
    @PandyMany 2 роки тому +3

    The game just looks soo good now. I love the graphics

    • @PandoraTriggerBlitz
      @PandoraTriggerBlitz 2 роки тому +3

      Have to agree. I'm impressed seeing UA-camrs who are using max settings and seeing the details that I can't get with a 2015 IPad Air 2

  • @___JW___
    @___JW___ 2 роки тому +6

    I think the Type 62 is an underated credit grinder.

    • @eddiemac24
      @eddiemac24 2 роки тому

      You gotta use a lot of HEAT. So not really

    • @supervelocejota63
      @supervelocejota63 2 роки тому

      juz cuz u grinded for it in the event

  • @flatbreadncurry
    @flatbreadncurry Рік тому +1

    Idk why I don't see that map in 0:03, where'd it go?

    • @onlynexg301
      @onlynexg301 5 місяців тому

      Removed from the game

  • @mikefiero
    @mikefiero 2 роки тому +4

    I would play the t54e2 (175% cc) over the Lowe nowadays. The Lowe's armor just doesn't work for me, however the gun is amazing.

    • @burnbash11
      @burnbash11 2 роки тому +1

      But that tank has a tumour growing out of its head

    • @mikefiero
      @mikefiero 2 роки тому +1

      @@burnbash11 I meant the shark t54e2 oops 😂

    • @BushkaOnBlitz
      @BushkaOnBlitz  2 роки тому +2

      Shark was a consideration I just think the Lowe can side scrape so effectively and the pen makes it such a cheap date :)

  • @ninjawhat8042
    @ninjawhat8042 2 роки тому +3

    Oooh mr Lowe Lowe

  • @gordieevans2263
    @gordieevans2263 Рік тому +1

    As a 100% ftp player it’s a blessing I’ve managed to get the Löwe and chimera in my garage

  • @shimi_raikkonen
    @shimi_raikkonen 2 роки тому +1

    Loving the weekly content. 👍🏼

  • @bazookas.
    @bazookas. 2 роки тому +2

    You should actually try the rractive armor and reti cali on the chimera

    • @BushkaOnBlitz
      @BushkaOnBlitz  2 роки тому

      I will

    • @bazookas.
      @bazookas. 2 роки тому

      @@BushkaOnBlitz My best setups are Adrenaline and Reti Cali or Reactive Armor and Reti Cali, Speed Boost isn't really needed since its PtW is already good and the Top Speed doesn't increase

  • @___JW___
    @___JW___ 2 роки тому +1

    Dig the old school themed vid. Wasn't the Super Pershing up there too back in the day? Of course it's not really any fun to play.

    • @BushkaOnBlitz
      @BushkaOnBlitz  2 роки тому

      It really was op back before everyone got huge armour buffs

  • @hughgolo8660
    @hughgolo8660 2 роки тому +2

    Itty bitty nitpick. Probably should have named the video MY top three grinders instead of just Top Three.
    IMO any tier 8 premium that you like driving is a good earner. Pick tanks that you enjoy, are successful in, then you will play them more and earn more.
    I’ve gone the deep-dive route, going so far as to use the credit earning formula to estimate and compare earnings in a spreadsheet using average stats from Blitzstars, my stats, and Meadsy’s as an example unicum. It’s really not worth agonising over. Just drive what you enjoy and you’ll make more anyway. The grind shouldn’t be a grind.

  • @TsunaXZ
    @TsunaXZ 2 роки тому +2

    Super pershing used to be my grinder I find it difficult to work with the armor and aim time.

    • @hughgolo8660
      @hughgolo8660 2 роки тому

      My issue with the SuperPershing is it only has one attribute.
      Mobility, awful. Gun, although much improved with the aim time buff, is workable but not really an asset. All it has is this awkward armour profile which is hard for new and poor players to defeat. Anyone who knows it knows to shoot the obvious weak spots.
      So once you meet an opponent who knows how to defeat that armour? You’re left with zero. No mobility, below average gun, and the armour does nothing.

  • @andreasmatt6745
    @andreasmatt6745 2 роки тому +2

    What about the Kpz50T ? I had many results above 200k Credits. 225k was my max I guess.

    • @TsunaXZ
      @TsunaXZ 2 роки тому +2

      It's the mastery/medal bonus not the base credit.

    • @BushkaOnBlitz
      @BushkaOnBlitz  2 роки тому

      Yeah it’s base credit potentials not great but lovely tank

    • @andreasmatt6745
      @andreasmatt6745 2 роки тому

      Ok, that makes sense. Thanks for the Info.
      Actually I had alot of “M” with it.
      @BushkaOnBlitz: Thx for your Work!! I’m a big Fan.

  • @shootmachine
    @shootmachine 2 роки тому +1

    After Lowe got buffed, its turret armor is much better now.

  • @muhammadizzulfakhruddinnor7017
    @muhammadizzulfakhruddinnor7017 2 роки тому

    0:03 Is that Mirage map ?

  • @Myemnhk
    @Myemnhk 2 роки тому +2

    Wt ritter is easily the best, I master it or get first class about every 2-3 games, im making about 200-300k and when I don't master it im still making well over 100k.

  • @dudenamedchris3325
    @dudenamedchris3325 2 роки тому +3

    So sad they removed the S. Pershing and Löwe from the tech tree...

    • @BushkaOnBlitz
      @BushkaOnBlitz  2 роки тому +2

      Yeah I was going to comment on that the Lowe particularly is so solid and such a good training tank for blitz

  • @svelocity2001
    @svelocity2001 2 роки тому +2

    Always loved the Lowe and yes it's a good credit grinder if you can win. It's been tough lately to win especially in Tier IX games. The gun is great! I have to disagree about the armor. Against tier IX TD's and Heavies standard rounds go through you like you're butter. Mobility is bad too and meds can run circles.

    • @BushkaOnBlitz
      @BushkaOnBlitz  2 роки тому +5

      If I stick to my positional stuff and play it as a side scraping heavy I go ok on it Vs tiger ix but none of these tanks dominate tier ix mostly it’s just about doing what you can and always making cash

    • @CasperTheRestless
      @CasperTheRestless 2 роки тому

      well yeah, but that is true with most tier 8 heavies against tier 9s

  • @staggerlee41
    @staggerlee41 2 роки тому +1

    Mr. Löwe Löwe! Three great choices for the top credit grinders, if I had to pull one out and put it at 4, I'd remove the Chimera. I enjoy the Progetto game play more. Not to say I don't like the Chimera, just not as dynamic of game play for me. Love that old school intro to your videos and that laugh!

  • @helikeon
    @helikeon 2 роки тому +2

    Loewe all the time , it’s a beast ,

  • @dominikscheller2269
    @dominikscheller2269 Місяць тому

    Good day mate
    Any suggestions for low tier credit grind?
    T5-t7

  • @Dr.Ganesh5
    @Dr.Ganesh5 2 роки тому

    I also want to add one more tank - "JgTig.8,8cm" tier 8 td ,DPM- 3517. this is my credit bank , don't matter you win or loss.

  • @aldozulfikar54
    @aldozulfikar54 2 роки тому +3

    Nice, I'm broke as well

  • @augustussohn893
    @augustussohn893 2 роки тому

    Lowe: at the top for credit grinding since the beginning.

  • @Mcdoggi1
    @Mcdoggi1 Рік тому

    I usted to grind money in a su100y at first i wasnt that good in the tank but aftee a while it became one of my favs

  • @blegh277
    @blegh277 Рік тому

    whats the keilers coef?

  • @MommiesLittleMonster
    @MommiesLittleMonster Рік тому

    Calling the Löwe the Iron Bank was a missed opportunity.

  • @davidduda6552
    @davidduda6552 2 роки тому

    Long time player, glad you are back streaming Bushka

  • @bingusplaysWR
    @bingusplaysWR 2 роки тому

    Does World of Tanks blitz have a UA-cam partner program

  • @serbiaknight8190
    @serbiaknight8190 2 роки тому

    Also good Credit Grinder in Matilda BP tier 5 its not good tank but few shots and you get 20k credit

  • @yoshineitor
    @yoshineitor 2 роки тому +1

    While I love the Dingo, I can't stand the DPM. The DPM + Gun handling combo is what I love about the Centurion line.

    • @BushkaOnBlitz
      @BushkaOnBlitz  2 роки тому

      It’s over 2.2k which is high for a premium credit grinding med it’s no action x at nearly 2.8 but it’s way more mobile

  • @humpythewhale
    @humpythewhale 2 роки тому

    IT'S THE OG INTRO LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • @blitzer25blitz62
    @blitzer25blitz62 2 роки тому

    for usual credit grind yeah the Lowe
    for big boss mode, Somua SM is my go to. 2xxxxx nett creds guaranteed each battle!

  • @potatomine6678
    @potatomine6678 Рік тому

    As a noob struggling to go to tier 8, i should've did this instead of buying all those tanks who aren't gonna pay that effort off. Well, it's too late, now. I'mma try this tbh.

  • @icup5206
    @icup5206 Рік тому

    I really like using the hellsing to grind out credits. Its just fun to play and can make sokid cash while you do it

  • @clunythescourge7664
    @clunythescourge7664 2 роки тому +4

    Thanks again for the vid, Bushka! Been a fan of both your blitz and Pubg channels for a while! 🫡

  • @soviet_union1936
    @soviet_union1936 Рік тому

    chimera is when you make a soviet heavys gun accurate onto a medium

  • @tristanvoltaire2058
    @tristanvoltaire2058 2 роки тому

    The Löve is easy to pen in the middle of the front. When playing with a German tank.

  • @jeffhillstead3302
    @jeffhillstead3302 2 роки тому

    So fp tanks don't make credits that are kind of worthless except to buy gold rounds ?

  • @PandyMany
    @PandyMany 2 роки тому

    Where are you bushka. I miss your videos again

  • @thetruthaboutfacts224
    @thetruthaboutfacts224 2 роки тому

    I got the Lowe for free in a crate years ago and I have made so many credits with it.

  • @Sbangfpv_
    @Sbangfpv_ 2 роки тому

    E75 TS also nice cg 8:32

  • @WhatsupPeople
    @WhatsupPeople Рік тому

    I bought the Lowe on Lion’s Day in August for 5,000 gold. Absolutely worth it

  • @mikeff15
    @mikeff15 2 роки тому +1

    Lowe is back in the store for you that don't have it.

  • @deathfad133
    @deathfad133 2 роки тому

    Where can I get a list of credit coefficient tanks?

  • @spe-notapopularytbersus1237

    honestly the emil1951 is pretty good at credit grinding too

  • @alejandroalejo3302
    @alejandroalejo3302 Рік тому

    As a newb to WOTB I appreciate ur videos bro! My boy Ol'Sarge from my Clan put me on to ya so I could learn something, much appreciated 👍

  • @Yourlocalhuman8
    @Yourlocalhuman8 2 роки тому

    No one's mentioning medjay? Even after reaching tier 9 tank its still a good money grinder for me

  • @alejandroalejo3302
    @alejandroalejo3302 Рік тому

    Nobody's gonna talk about my guy getting a 🦆 emoji after putting in straight work!?!?

  • @scottsacoustica4792
    @scottsacoustica4792 Рік тому

    Not going to disagree at all, but in my case I only have used the Chimera for ratings battles because it is so stupid good lol.

  • @harethmillion
    @harethmillion Рік тому

    How about a F2P tanks list for credit grind?
    Or at least tell me what's the best tank to grind as a F2P

  • @mrpetrolhead63
    @mrpetrolhead63 2 роки тому

    That Lowe game was great to watch. Thought you were going to lose it, should have known better 😂

  • @OMOGOLOGAEFIWE
    @OMOGOLOGAEFIWE 2 роки тому

    Cant restore my lowe frm the in-game restore.................wonder why guess i can make VRT instead and wait an entire day

  • @louisecairney5068
    @louisecairney5068 Рік тому

    I already know from the ad it's the Lowe lol

  • @simtruckerz
    @simtruckerz 2 роки тому

    is6,t34 %lowe on sale now

  • @jango_bmx11
    @jango_bmx11 11 місяців тому

    No love for the Super Pershing?

  • @rookiebobplayer244
    @rookiebobplayer244 2 роки тому

    oh how i have missed this intro

  • @amymyamymy2354
    @amymyamymy2354 2 роки тому

    Upper cut upper cut
    Sonic~~~~~ BOOOOOMMMM

  • @kv-2225
    @kv-2225 2 роки тому

    What about super pershing?
    That tank is easy to get M badge so you could get 200K credits
    I think about 3k damage plus 2 or 3 kills then you could get M badge

  • @zero_meercat8624
    @zero_meercat8624 2 роки тому

    waiting for the 1 year comeback again

  • @thecommonwealthsystem977
    @thecommonwealthsystem977 6 місяців тому

    The Löwe is good but I prefer the AMX M4 49

  • @TheNamesJake
    @TheNamesJake Рік тому

    i cant find these tanks anymore. also i dont like the new store design wargaming did, so many crates and gambling stuff

  • @zsebok4822
    @zsebok4822 2 роки тому

    + Pz. IV Gargoyle

  • @4shOne-Blitz
    @4shOne-Blitz 2 роки тому +1

    Just out of interest the sharks got 175%

    • @BushkaOnBlitz
      @BushkaOnBlitz  2 роки тому

      Yeah shark was also on the final board just prefer the Lowe’s all round game

  • @pearatree
    @pearatree Рік тому

    Regardless of these tanks being good ROI when you play - the best credit grinder is your wallet which is why there are so many tier 3 players with tier 3 skills in tier 10 tanks. Just ask WG.

  • @baguettebiscuit5808
    @baguettebiscuit5808 Рік тому

    I miss you. Try playing WarThunder if you're interested.

  • @bubblegumrabbit1398
    @bubblegumrabbit1398 Рік тому

    One of the tanks I keep in the shed to make credits to run my big boys since I usually have a standard account and not premium.... IV Gargoyle .
    Make your own jokes

  • @V3lk0n
    @V3lk0n Рік тому

    The löwe is op and the best tank anyone can have if you see it 8n the shop buy it NOW

  • @keyser_soze_tus2205
    @keyser_soze_tus2205 Рік тому

    Bushka were fore are thou?

  • @beestoe993
    @beestoe993 Рік тому

    Defender MK. 1 is right there with your two meds.

  • @primalsmite2204
    @primalsmite2204 2 роки тому

    wz is good for earing money lowe is to beacuse he gona get buff

  • @tylermock9949
    @tylermock9949 Рік тому

    Honestly the vk 168.09 literally gives me over 100k credits even if I lose the match 🤣 I'm ok with that.

  • @rzutybigos2528
    @rzutybigos2528 Рік тому

    I dont know why i earn more credits in my Loraine than in my löwe

  • @ghostchild7042
    @ghostchild7042 2 роки тому +3

    shinobi 200++% CC

    • @BushkaOnBlitz
      @BushkaOnBlitz  2 роки тому

      It’s just the tier I looked at including the lower stuff but the q times and the crappy mm vs op tanks really held me back

  • @cbelchev
    @cbelchev Рік тому

    Lowe is Love 💗

  • @WesternAustraliaNowAndThen
    @WesternAustraliaNowAndThen Рік тому

    Honestly, it's a bit of a laugh watching these videos because yours teams ACTUALLY SURVIVE long enough for you to do your job. I get stuck on so many teams where I am happily pumping shot after shot into the enemy and dong tons of damage only to find that most (if not all) of my stupid team mates have managed to get themselves killed and I am left to fight 4 or 5 enemy alone. No one player can carry the battle no matter how good they are. (Yeah I know there is the odd battle where you might get lucky, but that is as rare as hens teeth.) I would say 70%+ of the battles where I am on the losing team is due to crap team mates. 10% is because I do something dumb and 20% is flat out cheating by the game. You know those games where one team is dead within 30 seconds and the enemy have almost zero damage...

  • @AnamelessChild
    @AnamelessChild 2 роки тому

    chi nu kai is best credit grinder

  • @matejsedivy7925
    @matejsedivy7925 2 роки тому

    What? Its normal omg... in T100e5 after battle i have 170-260K silvers... that is normal on X if you can play with us