As a body shop owner, we work on high-end and exotics, heres my 2c: PPF is a catch 22 and complete BS for the average car We've repaired many vehicles with PPF with very minor damage that the PPF wasn't able to protect against. So now you pay us $95 hr to remove the PPF + decon + cost of repair & refinish, then you can't PPF for another 60-90 days till the clear is fully cured. So if you have a vehicle which on average costs $1200 $1500+ to repair & refinish the front bumper i.e LC500, M4 Comp ect .. And you get a slight gash from a scuff that goes through PPF or minor fender bender. You've just introduced an extra $600-$800+ to the cost of just refinishing PPF might be worth it on Exotics or Collectibles, Hypercars which a bumper can run you 2k $3k++ ect because if you have endless pockets then whatever. Things we've ran in to with PPF cars: -Permanent water spot damage on the film looks like dog crap -Some films leave a ton of residue behind on removal $$ -Some films have horrible orange peel -Some films take away from the depth and gloss of the original finish -On hand cut & polished vehicles like Bentleys and Lambos you totally kill the glass look of these cars with PPF Anyways, it's a catch 22, whats next another film to protect the PPF? 😂
Depends on what you're trying to protect against? None of my rides are ppf'd, they are all cut and polished and ceramic coated As far as rock chips, on my weekend rides I make sure I keep enough distance away from the car in front of me on the road The faster the speed, the larger the distance Gives that pebble enough room for gravity to do its thing
I knew PPF wasn't perfect, but I didn't know it was that bad. I've been doing ceramic coatings for years now and they're great with new or old cars. Then I top the cured ceramic coating with Collinite 815 or 945 and then continue that wax regimen moving forward. Extremely deep and long lasting gloss, like a second clear coat. PPF is relatively new and cars I've seen with it have this "plastic look" up close. Still, I was considering it for my new car since it was "self-healing". Now I'll just stick to ceramic + wax. You just saved me the equivalent of $2000.
@@bo3baid I apply around 3 coats minimum. I only apply them under shade because they cure too fast in sunlight. I apply them using an applicator pad, in strokes, then buff them using a dual action polisher. Have to be careful since ceramic can streak. After the ceramic coating is cured, I top them off with Collinite 476s (for my light colored cars) or 915 (for my dark colored cars). I continue topping off with Collinite wax after every two or three car washes, so my initial ceramic coating is still there. Collinite lasts a lot longer than most wax. Only Soft99 Fusso can compete among carnauba-based waxes from experience.
It is completely unnecessary for a full body PPF I run a shop all. I tell my customers is you just need the front bumper, both fenders, full hood and side mirrors. Rocks typically don't hit the back of the vehicle or the doors. So front end do PPF and then from the doors back doing nice ceramic coating
I agree 100%. I’m getting mine done next week. All that you said, plus the pillars and rear spoiler, only bc their piano black, and scratch just from breathing too hard on it lol.
I dont agree i got full ppf and had a rock go from my front tire to my rear passenger door while making a lane change. It looks like it saved my paint from a massive scratch. So happy i got the full body ppf worth every penny. I wont know until i take the ppf off but i believe it only grazed the plastic layer
@@Xx-VSM-xX PPF is worth the money for specialty cars, but let’s be realistic a Rivian is not a specialty vehicle. No matter what quality of product is being used, it breaks down over time. Using it on a vehicle that is used regularly can be a problem. The cost to remove PPF after it has degraded can be more than it was to install. I’m all for people spending money however they like, but putting it on a rear door of a pickup is amusing to me.
@@Xx-VSM-xX it costs several thousand dollars to do ppf. Derrrrrp. Tell me you don't know what you're talking about without telling me you don't know what you're talking about. (If you've found it for less, they're using trash film.) My truck is $105k and I didn't even put it on that. My G63 and G550 have it though.
@@brianshockley6429 Just because it’s electric doesn’t make it not a truck. It’s actually supposed to have some real capabilities. Lots of trucks cost that much. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a fan.
When you say full-body do you color the windshield? If that is something else for the windshield how do you make sure that any windshield film does not affect the rain sensing wipers?
I have been in the auto body business since 20 years. Ceramic coating lasts a few weeks so it’s not worth the money. Protective coating is only good if you do not scratch or wreck the car. If you get a small, scratch in the protective coating, it will cost you another $3000 to have it done again. Versus $500 for a small scratch. Protective coating is a rip off. Stop ripping people off!
@@ooodinimagic2151 im not joking. To add clear protection to a front end of a car is over $1500. In 8 years that stuff will harden and never “peel off” making it impossible to remove. If you scratch the bumper, the average price to paint a bumper is $500. But to paint a bumper and re-wrap it is about $1200. Does that make sense?
On top of PPF. My reason is because it will then protect both the PPF layer and the paint at the same time. If coating is under PPF then only paint is protected and the PPF layer itself on top will oxidize faster.
As long it doesn’t end up looking like the front of the Toyota Camrys hood protective film? all dried up and yellow after a few years.. As much as a car costs, I think it would be worthwhile investment.
Especially on a rivian, they need a full paint correction right from the dealer, the quality of paint and panel gaps is truly absurd for the price of them.
The only reason i want to use protection on my car is because people for some reason are attracted to my car, in the parking lots people’s just love to park very close next to my car & they open the door & hit my car for no reason & without saying sorry, i get scratches every time because of that🤬 I just want protection on my doors thats it🌚
@@fzrshiny I work in the auto auction business and can only speak from my experience dealing with thousands of cars in the Texas sun. Maybe your experience has been different.
paint is meant to protect your car from the elements. this is a little silly. why do you need the original paint to stay untouched pristine on a truck? buff out the scratches, touch up the rock chips don't spend thousands on some film that will need replaced eventually anyway.
PPF is too expensive, not worth it, if you ceramic coat it and call it a day, if you keep the car for 10+ years, and the paint has gone bad, repaint it for half the price, PPF for the whole car is 4-7k ridiculous.
Anyone who repaints your car for less than the price of a full PPF, is gonna Jack your shit up. Overspray. Don’t even bother removing trim, drip marks, the whole 9 yards. I can guarantee my customers 100% all out wraps and PPF look as good as OEM paint, and 10X better than any aftermarket paint shop can produce at the rate we charge. You’d need a $10k paint job to match our work.
@@dontbestupid6664 not all body shops are the worst example of a body shop. I've sent a couple hundred cars to local body shops, full paint jobs. They remove the trim, and rarely give me a car with overspray and drips and the few times they have, they rectified it. It's a matter of finding professionals. I could have a Corolla painted twice for $8,000 and no one with an untrained eye could tell.
lol i love clear bras and all this. your car ages gracefully while inder the clear stay nice guaranteeing youll need a new paint job. leave it on longer and it cracks making your car look worse. this is for leased cars #bet
Nah the paint will still deteriorate from UV. But it would be in much better condition than having no PPF+Ccoating. Topping up a good ceramic coating (one with decent chemical and UV resistance) on top of the PPF every few years would help.
@Jay rad i decided to do a graphine ceramic coating instead. I just wanted it for light scratches, and i did it myself. Way cheaper, too. I would want PPE, but it's an investment i was not willing to make.
In Michigan it keeps the rust from falling off in the driveway
😂
Hahahhaha
good thing my vettes fiberglass
I’m sure prepping the paint for a PPF must really suck allot of times. That’s a disadvantage to the installer(s).
As a body shop owner, we work on high-end and exotics, heres my 2c:
PPF is a catch 22 and complete BS for the average car
We've repaired many vehicles with PPF with very minor damage that the PPF wasn't able to protect against.
So now you pay us $95 hr to remove the PPF + decon + cost of repair & refinish, then you can't PPF for another 60-90 days till the clear is fully cured.
So if you have a vehicle which on average costs $1200 $1500+ to repair & refinish the front bumper i.e LC500, M4 Comp ect ..
And you get a slight gash from a scuff that goes through PPF or minor fender bender. You've just introduced an extra $600-$800+ to the cost of just refinishing
PPF might be worth it on Exotics or Collectibles, Hypercars which a bumper can run you 2k $3k++ ect because if you have endless pockets then whatever.
Things we've ran in to with PPF cars:
-Permanent water spot damage on the film looks like dog crap
-Some films leave a ton of residue behind on removal $$
-Some films have horrible orange peel
-Some films take away from the depth and gloss of the original finish
-On hand cut & polished vehicles like Bentleys and Lambos you totally kill the glass look of these cars with PPF
Anyways, it's a catch 22, whats next another film to protect the PPF? 😂
What do you suggest besides PPF that provides the best protection ?
Depends on what you're trying to protect against?
None of my rides are ppf'd, they are all cut and polished and ceramic coated
As far as rock chips, on my weekend rides I make sure I keep enough distance away from the car in front of me on the road
The faster the speed, the larger the distance
Gives that pebble enough room for gravity to do its thing
I knew PPF wasn't perfect, but I didn't know it was that bad. I've been doing ceramic coatings for years now and they're great with new or old cars. Then I top the cured ceramic coating with Collinite 815 or 945 and then continue that wax regimen moving forward. Extremely deep and long lasting gloss, like a second clear coat.
PPF is relatively new and cars I've seen with it have this "plastic look" up close. Still, I was considering it for my new car since it was "self-healing". Now I'll just stick to ceramic + wax. You just saved me the equivalent of $2000.
@@SharapovaFanhey im interest how many times do you apply the ceramic coat and how long does it last
@@bo3baid I apply around 3 coats minimum. I only apply them under shade because they cure too fast in sunlight. I apply them using an applicator pad, in strokes, then buff them using a dual action polisher. Have to be careful since ceramic can streak.
After the ceramic coating is cured, I top them off with Collinite 476s (for my light colored cars) or 915 (for my dark colored cars). I continue topping off with Collinite wax after every two or three car washes, so my initial ceramic coating is still there. Collinite lasts a lot longer than most wax. Only Soft99 Fusso can compete among carnauba-based waxes from experience.
Keep it clean for the next guy. That’s who gets the best deal
Better resale value that's its only unless you keep the car for a long time
It is completely unnecessary for a full body PPF I run a shop all. I tell my customers is you just need the front bumper, both fenders, full hood and side mirrors. Rocks typically don't hit the back of the vehicle or the doors. So front end do PPF and then from the doors back doing nice ceramic coating
Thanks will do that
that would trigger people with OCD lol
I agree 100%. I’m getting mine done next week. All that you said, plus the pillars and rear spoiler, only bc their piano black, and scratch just from breathing too hard on it lol.
I dont agree i got full ppf and had a rock go from my front tire to my rear passenger door while making a lane change. It looks like it saved my paint from a massive scratch. So happy i got the full body ppf worth every penny. I wont know until i take the ppf off but i believe it only grazed the plastic layer
@@AeroNationHDhow much it cost for full body ppf..and what is ur type of ppf applied. Thanks.
Walmart PPF?
Walmart tints
Full PPF on a pickup? Someone has a lot of money.
Lol it doesn't cost that much for ppf. Any new car regardless of price benefits from ppf, especially if you plan on reselling or trading in later
@@Xx-VSM-xX
PPF is worth the money for specialty cars, but let’s be realistic a Rivian is not a specialty vehicle. No matter what quality of product is being used, it breaks down over time. Using it on a vehicle that is used regularly can be a problem. The cost to remove PPF after it has degraded can be more than it was to install. I’m all for people spending money however they like, but putting it on a rear door of a pickup is amusing to me.
@@Xx-VSM-xX it costs several thousand dollars to do ppf. Derrrrrp. Tell me you don't know what you're talking about without telling me you don't know what you're talking about. (If you've found it for less, they're using trash film.) My truck is $105k and I didn't even put it on that. My G63 and G550 have it though.
It’s a rivian not really a truck. All electric and Things $75g’s!!!😮
@@brianshockley6429
Just because it’s electric doesn’t make it not a truck. It’s actually supposed to have some real capabilities. Lots of trucks cost that much. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a fan.
Modern paint is so cheap you need stickers to protect it. They should offer option epoxy tank paint
No shit man if the customer wants to fork out the extra cheddar for it they should offer it
That’s basically a giant screen protector but for a car 😂
Right.
12 year film on a 5 year truck.
Why would a rivian last 5 years 😂 virtually everything lasts 10 easy
I want to learn to do this
What would you consider to be a valid ppf?
And at only $8,000 you can get the full body PPF. Ridiculous. I’ll just get a new paint job for that price.
Na not worth it at $8k unless it's a Lamborghini or something of that nature.
Spoken like a true dumb fuck 😂😂😂
Not a scam these people just overprice tf out of it cause people are dumb enough to pay it it’s called hustle
@@jacobarmstrong-dx1fi no its for people who have the money and the car for it..
It's a rip off . U cn buy nd do it Ur self for 300 500
what will happen when your car get a deep scratch ??? and when the inside rust, shows up ?
Wow ! That looks really nice !
When you say full-body do you color the windshield? If that is something else for the windshield how do you make sure that any windshield film does not affect the rain sensing wipers?
I definitely need some of that on my truck
I have been in the auto body business since 20 years. Ceramic coating lasts a few weeks so it’s not worth the money. Protective coating is only good if you do not scratch or wreck the car. If you get a small, scratch in the protective coating, it will cost you another $3000 to have it done again. Versus $500 for a small scratch. Protective coating is a rip off. Stop ripping people off!
LOL
Funny joke my dude
@@ooodinimagic2151 im not joking. To add clear protection to a front end of a car is over $1500. In 8 years that stuff will harden and never “peel off” making it impossible to remove. If you scratch the bumper, the average price to paint a bumper is $500. But to paint a bumper and re-wrap it is about $1200. Does that make sense?
@Sean S idk what u said but ceramic coating lasts way more then ' a few weeks'🤣
Unless u using that shit u find in a spray bottle
Two pack enamel and or backed enamel no clear coats or wraps
Funi
Bro could do a chopped and screwed remix 😂
Ceramic coating on top of PPF or PPF on top of ceramic coating?
On top of PPF. My reason is because it will then protect both the PPF layer and the paint at the same time. If coating is under PPF then only paint is protected and the PPF layer itself on top will oxidize faster.
Precut?
As long it doesn’t end up looking like the front of the Toyota Camrys hood protective film? all dried up and yellow after a few years.. As much as a car costs, I think it would be worthwhile investment.
What patter software you guys use? That looks like a good fir
I didn't catch that. Why kind of ppf are you using?
How often will ppf make a vehicle total out due to 4000 bill to replace a few panels that that had to be painted
How much to wrap a donkey and buggy.
How much is a job like this?
Nice, great info.
Good Job bro 💪✌️
Good job 👏 👍 👌
Especially on a rivian, they need a full paint correction right from the dealer, the quality of paint and panel gaps is truly absurd for the price of them.
I heard Lumar? Can you please tell me the name of this PPF material? Thx
Is this the same thing as skins that people put in cars and trucks?
If it protect and get the impcat does it mean that it can be replace when damage?
Approximate price for ppf for a vehicle that size?
thank you guy's !
got to get my vehicles treated
The only reason i want to use protection on my car is because people for some reason are attracted to my car, in the parking lots people’s just love to park very close next to my car & they open the door & hit my car for no reason & without saying sorry, i get scratches every time because of that🤬
I just want protection on my doors thats it🌚
I HATE that. I'll park way yonder in the parking lot and someone will literally park next to me.
How much $10,000?
Is cilajet PPF or ceramic coating?? I’m confused
why dont they add water to the color wraps like tinting or ppf
I would think it helps with rock chips and sand blasting from tires
PPF is great until it starts to turn from clear to yellow.
Modern PPF is urethane based and doesn't fade from UV rays or discolor most ever have lifetime warranty from fading I know the stuff we use does
takes a long time to do that
@@Justinlifts365 Thank you for being honest and admitting it does yellow along with start cracking also. I will also admit it usually takes a while.
@@ThatGuy-wz3or I like how you ignored the reply which stated facts and replied to the baseless comment agreeing with you
@@fzrshiny I work in the auto auction business and can only speak from my experience dealing with thousands of cars in the Texas sun. Maybe your experience has been different.
Can you do ceramic coating first then PPF over top?
No you can’t
Why would you wrap a electric truck that won’t start in cold conditions
paint is meant to protect your car from the elements. this is a little silly. why do you need the original paint to stay untouched pristine on a truck? buff out the scratches, touch up the rock chips don't spend thousands on some film that will need replaced eventually anyway.
Is it easy to wash with it on?
Has this got UV capabilities?
Will it keep my wife's finishes protected and young looking??
😂😂😂
Maybe you should take a shower and get on the treadmill before worrying about your wife bub
@@slingshotnerd correct yes you definitely should.
PPF is too expensive, not worth it, if you ceramic coat it and call it a day, if you keep the car for 10+ years, and the paint has gone bad, repaint it for half the price, PPF for the whole car is 4-7k ridiculous.
Anyone who repaints your car for less than the price of a full PPF, is gonna Jack your shit up. Overspray. Don’t even bother removing trim, drip marks, the whole 9 yards.
I can guarantee my customers 100% all out wraps and PPF look as good as OEM paint, and 10X better than any aftermarket paint shop can produce at the rate we charge. You’d need a $10k paint job to match our work.
@@dontbestupid6664 not all body shops are the worst example of a body shop.
I've sent a couple hundred cars to local body shops, full paint jobs. They remove the trim, and rarely give me a car with overspray and drips and the few times they have, they rectified it.
It's a matter of finding professionals. I could have a Corolla painted twice for $8,000 and no one with an untrained eye could tell.
@@dontbestupid6664 I had my car doors repainted for about $600 each and I could not tell the difference from the factory job.
Can you use the film on wheels?
Do you have such service in Kenya?
Does it stop it from rusting or rotting out the panels?
Nope 😁
It should at least protect it from rust etc for that match but I'm looking at it as protection for my vehicle
how much this cost ?
And how much that cost.....
I like both of those,but it seems because of the cost you're doing the PPF to take care of the paint for the next owner of the vehicle.
Hence why you only do it to a car you want to keep for life.
My car has paint protection film from the dealership. And now I have dirt lines where the film is lifting up from 4 years of driving.
That can easily be polished off, Even a hand polish would take it off
Yeah dealership ppf is absolutely horrible
I wonder if auto dealerships will never offer it on the new car purchase?
Just got a new sportage and the dealership offered me PPF
Sound like you about to say : Clear eyes has ingredients to moisturize WOW 😂
Professional people do professional things and have professional knowledge👍
there's a reason way you pain your car not just to color it but to protect the it
lol i love clear bras and all this. your car ages gracefully while inder the clear stay nice guaranteeing youll need a new paint job. leave it on longer and it cracks making your car look worse. this is for leased cars #bet
This is insane bruh
Ahhh The new tv plastic film you didn’t know was there
I want know how much this cost, just out of curiosity?
What’s the liquid you sprayed on the film? Amma wrap my Tesla by myself.
2 solutions, first alcohol 10% water 90% mix. second few drops of baby shampoo + water mix
@@bobjones7776 thank you so much.
so a wrap?
My homie lost stock because of them
How much to do a Tacoma?
Excellent
PPF is great but as soon as those bugs get on the PPF bye bye never getting those stains out
We’re i go to get a Estimate
Gets into a car accident right after and done
you dead wrong for that one!
12 years is a lot of confidence in a Rivian... 😮
It's like the Madea's sofas with plastic 😅
What is the stuff in the bottle?
Just water and soap I think
Imagine caring this much about a factory sprayed color. 😂😂
Its the little things . Be humble 👍
The best of both words love💅✨
Then in 6-8 years when it is peeling or looking beat you get the pleasure of removing it without damaging the preserved paint.
Good luck.
How much
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The person that did this has plastic covers on their furniture at home
What's the cost for 08 Expedition
Cost more than your car lol that’s for sure. You can buy a whole different Expedition
Kinda like the plastic on Grandma's carpet and furniture, no?
Dilaminating apiik.tenan..👍
How much? Not paying more than 1k
It'll be about 5 to 10,000
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Nice
Saran Wrapping a car now....I just can't get into this.
Ppf bhi mere pas bhi hota
This is best
Does this last 12 years if car sits outside in snow, rain, sun all the time, never babied in a garaged.
Nah the paint will still deteriorate from UV. But it would be in much better condition than having no PPF+Ccoating. Topping up a good ceramic coating (one with decent chemical and UV resistance) on top of the PPF every few years would help.
New paint job is typically cheaper then this shit show crap. And it will still scratch ding and dent.
Too expensive 😅
DIY then
@Jay rad i decided to do a graphine ceramic coating instead. I just wanted it for light scratches, and i did it myself. Way cheaper, too. I would want PPE, but it's an investment i was not willing to make.
@@TheBottomG_1 Same here with the graphene coating on my car! Good stuff and it performs similar enough to PPF.
That will last longer than rhe truck..
It’s utter ridiculous how much they charge for this thin sheet of plastic.
$$$???
Yes.... true coat.. that is some Jerry lundegaard shit there.
A guy with a squeegee makes 9000 putting saran wrap on cars. Single mom works 2 jobs for minimum wage
Hell I can do that myself
I just use the bag that my potato chips come in
Nicce
Also a good car wax works Also &is easier