Since this was a video made two years ago. I forgive you, Bobby. Critical Race Theory it's simple. It examines the racial bias in the justice system, employment, housing and how race plays a key role economically. It breaks down inequality of a system that wasn't created for black Americans to succeed. Instead it discusses a system created to benefit white people. Now where's the lie in that. 💯
CRT was developed in the 80's as graduate level coursework to study the bias' (intended or otherwise) in our system. It's the study of, not a solution to, racial bias in policy.
So why is it so controversial. It was not on the radar until DeSantis tried to ban the discussion of it. Institutional racism is real and to deny it is just to live in a state of deception. .
@@tiania2658 It's controversial, because people finally noticed the gaslighting. 'Institutional Racism' against whom exactly? Certainly not those that get affirmative action benefits or those that benefit from ethnic networking.
@@acc4465 Well, everyone is of course racist, because being racist is 'human nature'. After all, dads care more about their kids than about kids from other dads. And well they should. If they don't there is something really wrong with them. Just as kids should care more about their parents and siblings than about other people. The problem is that people have been conditioned to think that there is something wrong with 'racism' and that it is somehow a meaningful term to describe reality in the way they where conditioned what it means. The lingual history of the term is however quite revealing. Who came up with it, popularized it and how did it find entry into academia where it is used now as if it is describing something rationally meaningful?
I think we are making this harder to understand than it really is. We are making excuses for what's obvious. It's not rocket science. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. If you believe it, you'll do it.
@@iBeauty96 no that the word I'm in is related to amunra when you say I'm in it is a Christian pagan term you are praying and or giving praise to Amen Rah the pharaoh
The golden rule is old and flawed. It existed before social sciences and it doesn’t consider that people don’t always intentionally harm others. Being racist can happen to all of us and it doesn’t make us bad. Sometimes it’s due to a lack of education which translates to a lack of understanding and empathy.
@@shindig9000 because you don’t treat others how you want to be treated if you yourself are treating yourself poorly due to unfortunate life events. If you hate yourself you will probably treat yourself poorly (consciously or unconsciously) which may lead you to poorly treat others as a result. Golden rule should be to treat others with dignity.
This would have been much more interesting and productive if you had an African American pastor who is pro-Civil Rights engage in a dialogue with the white anti-CRT pastor here. This is just more preaching to the choir rather than reaching across the aisle to increase understanding. I’d encourage the folks behind this video to consider a follow-up along the lines I’ve suggested here.
I agree with the first half of your statement....."2 white guys discussing race theory" as somewhat laughable yet at the sametime would we rather have white people care and be apart of change or not even care or even worse be apart of the problem. Voting for a president whether native american, multi background meaning a mixture of two or more backgrounds or singular should be based on the persons internal moral code of ingerity and a set of principles of which help guide them spiritually to making fair and just decisions for ALL people and not just one group no matter their outside apparence.
I'm trying to learn more about CRT and this was a horrible start for me. Especially as a black Christian...Except for the last maybe 45secs, that was good
This is one of the least substantive conversations I have heard on CRT. CRT simply states that racism isn’t simply denoted by personal relations but that racism was also embedded in many American social, political, economic, educational, judicial, and financial,. etc, structures and institutions via regulations, policies, and laws as a result of its historical legacy.
CRT makes those claims but cannot prove it back any of them up. The CRT group doesn’t give much in the way of evidence as it doesn’t believe in objective truth
CRT certainly isn't in the Bible. We're all equally in a "wrong relationship", "negative standing", with our Creator prior to Salvation. It's a sin problem NOT a skin problem. There's ONLY one race, the human race. ❤️
The Bible does talk about righteousness and justice. Whereas one doesn't have to embrace CRT,every Christian does have to recognize that there is a genuine societal problem with racism and with structures that result in racist results.
As a negroe, I would like to have a conversation with you on CRT and its importance for my people to know what really happened to our identity in America and why it was taken away from us/hidden
CRT attempts to identify the problematic dynamics that are present in a rigged socioeconomic structure, legal system, education system, etc. After identifying these problems, CRT attempts to solve them *not* by advocating for equality, unity, compassion, opening strong lines of communication, etc. but by largely reversing the script and targeting white people instead of black people. This is insanity. As Einstein wisely said, “You can’t solve problems by using the same type of thinking that created them.” CRT essentially says that being white is a problem and is bad. Sound familiar? It sounds just like what white people who are racist would say about black people. CRT passionately advocates for school curriculums to teach white kids, and their white parents, that being white automatically makes you ‘bad’, ‘mean’, ‘guilty’. Sound familiar? Racism revolves around associating the color of one’s skin with notions that are learned early in life. It is very, very, long over due that systemic racism is addressed, but doing so via CRT is only going to deepen the divide between people of different races. What’s happening is horrifying. Seriously. This belongs in some type of dystopian fiction novel where a massive unethical experiment is conducted to see if the roles of the oppressed and the oppressors can be flipped. If the goal is equality, as it should be, then people need to become colorblind to race!
You simply feel threatened that dismantling this White power structure means someone will oppress you because that’s how how you all think someone has to be the leading oppressor and rather not you smh 🤦🏾♀️ we just want equal rights
Extremely biased views on CRT. It's clear these two are still unable to understand what the other side is truly saying. This conversation is full of pretended, condescending faux humility
11:50 - 13:13: “There are some things…” Those things are sin, which God hates. You’re being soft on those sins because they’re not a part of your White Evangelical Christian culture. You’ve attempted to understand CRT-a theoretical framework taught in law schools-because your culture sees teaching actual American history (which is being conflated with CRT) as an important enough threat to their comforts and status quo. How have you attempted to understand something 99% of us will never understand, but you haven’t taken the time to understand the reason for the race conversation: Racism. You know systemic racism exists, as you softly alluded, but it’s not important enough to you and your culture to actually understand and challenge! Now take a look at the Southern Baptist Convention and ask yourself why it is falling apart. It’s because your Black neighbors aren’t important enough for you to know and love. By the way, racism is about human inferiority/superiority. In American history the devaluing of African slaves was strategic for justifying their brutalization in slavery for economic gain. Today, the American church needs to take a good look in the mirror and feel God’s anger from Psalm 7:11.
Ya, that attitude will fix everything. You don’t seem to want resolutions to a problem, but rather tearing down all whites appears to be the goal in your statement. I resent your hatefulness and deny your allusion that all whites are systemic racist. In fact, what you say here feels racist towards all white people, but you cant see that…more likely, you won’t see that will you. What a shame.
Most of what was said was on point, but one noticeable misunderstanding. We all have prejudices/heart issues we need to continuously confess and forsake. But prejudice is not the same as racism. It might have originated in the heart, but it is now ingrained in our American system of oppression. It is also a slap in the face to say these things take time. How much time has already passed?! We don't need more time, we need men and women of God to ACT. Love IS action. So let's not just talk about theories, but ask God how YOU can work toward change, and then DO IT. God bless you for trying to understand.
But this is firstly about explaining what C.R.T. is, which they fail at to a cetain extend cuz they fail to aknowledge that it is reactionary ideology camouflaged as scientific endeavor. It is not scientific because they don't leave open if systemic racism exists at all, they just take it to be the case and they don't show any evidence other than putcome disparities which could or can be caused by a number of things (like upbringing in an two or one parent household, etc.). That in some cases the black population struggles more in the U.S. can be explained by a number of factors other than racial group membership. They don't factor in other explanations at all! So if the outcomes are different for different races, the outcomes must and only be caused by systemic racism. Also if the answer is this general in nature, how can impactful solutions be generated? In other words by saying everything is racist they never have to come up with feasable solutions other than to tear everything down. C.R.T. does not strife to solve racism, it actively supports racial seggregation and rejects racial integration and liberalism thus it wants to get back to the way it was before the civil rights movement and Martin Luther King JR.! We cannot let that happen.
@@rosalinamay22 sure. Racism falls under the umbrella of prejudice. But not all prejudices are racism. You can be white and be prejudice against a white homeless man begging on the street corner.
Sounds like you drank the Kool aid. CRT is a modern form of Marxism. Like all other forms of Marxism, it's purpose is not to unite but to divide - so these divisions can be exploited for political power. Wanna understand CRT? Then read an academically rigorous book about it. The best one out there is called "Cynical Theories." I'll warn you, CRT is incredibly difficult stuff to understand.. But if you make the effort, you will confirm that everything I'm telling you is accurate. CRT is pure snake oil from the pit of hell.
*Here is a PHD CRT author's quote:* "In order to be anti-racist, you must be anti-capitalist". -quote by Ibram X. Kendi - top CRT author required in the US military, unfortunately. CRT is Marxism but they repackage and hide it in their books.
More CRT Quotes from that "PHD wonder" named Mr. Kendi: "Racism and capitalism go hand in hand". "The only cure for past discrimination is present discrimination". MS-NBC and CNN have it wrong on this one.
When CRT say America is inherititively racist it's not saying that it's inherited biologically. But rather it's pass down or taught from generations to generations. We all inherited behaviors and traits that we pickup from our parents. And racism is one of them.
21:45 - I really thought he was going to go into the whole “Jesus is the only answer” cop out. I didn’t think he was going to address what’s needed from the pulpit… this is the IMPORTANCE of HEARING people out. Man this was GOOD good…
Racism is a sin no matter what your ethnicity is. It should be repented of by each individual just as any sin committed . Gods word stands alone and can't be substituted . It needs no help defining sin and doesn't need any help confronting man's sin nature. Anyone who will try to justify slavery of any ethnic group is misguided. The Bible tells us we all sin and come short of the glory of God. We all were created in the image of God and should be treated accordingly. Focus on Jesus Christ and what he did for each individual on the cross . One day there will be peace , equality and absolutely no prejudice or racism after the 2nd coming of Chtist when he rules this earth. Racism is a sin that can be repented of and to tell anyone they have committed a sin they can't be forgiven of other than blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is unbiblical. Jesus Christ is the answer for all our sins.
Lol, in Bible it's written how the idol worshipers are lower, stupid and prostitutes. Bible is a discriminatory book and all the European colonisation throughout history was funded and supported by church.
Try studying the year 1681 when the word “white “ was invented to describe a people. You might learn something.Real history is what we need to learn and understand
I am homeschooling my son I didn't teach CRTC. What I did teach him about was the history of the world. The hardest part of learning history is the last 100 years of history. The CCP was started by a teacher in China and followed Marxist doctrine that killed millions. The USSR was started based on Marxist doctrine and again millions were killed. Laos tried to use Marxist doctrine and again millions were killed. Cuba rounded up all educated people and killed them based on Marxist ideas. In all cases the first generation was enthusiastic until after the revolution when the people realized communism is hell on earth. The next generation until present hate the idea. If you are debating CRTC and it is based on Marxists ideas you obviously don't know your history. No person that knows history would want their children and grandchildren to live or be killed in a communist country. I don't care if it hurts feelings this is extremely important study the last 100 years of world history. Any doctrine that uses Marxist ideas is a hard no it does not matter what race you are communism is really bad for every race!
Of course a christian apologist is going to have this stance. There is little chance for him to objectively evaluate CRT with this level of initial bias. Quite ironic.
6:08 you better park it for a few seconds a human implies a hued man or colored man whereas the antonym for that would be neanderthal which means one that neander's or one that wanders around as they have wandered and too many people's backyards and settle for what they have whether it was given freely or not there are some that would chop off your hands when being given things free in order to make sure they get everything oh and the lieu of profit it is not every white man but those that know better have been taught that it is okay also I think this is what critical waste theory is about mainly
Did I just hear the term..... Reverse Racism???? I'm disappointed. That is not a logical concept, especially with there being multiple definitions of racism. The term reverse racism is dismissive to the struggle of the residue that slavery left behind. If it weren't so you wouldn't be talking about it right now, we would all have an understanding that it is important to be educated about our short comings as a society so we don't keep repeating them as we have. If we are truly sons and daughters of God we would lead with Love and have open hearts to understand before we formulate opinions and respond.
Crt seems to be way off topic. You put 1 Indian, 1 African, 1 Asian, 1 caucasian on a team together and tell them to build a fence. Crt goes out the window so long as everyone is putting in some effort. Now as a civilization we have gotten to a point where everyone on the planet can live comfortably, it's only leadership of certain countries that don't allow it in their own countries. The vast amount of knowledge we as a whole have contributed makes it possible. But now we need some really clever thinking and even after free knowledge, improved pastures which literally gives us brain food, there are still people on this planet who through cultural constructs or peer pressure would rather drag the chain instead of help lead the way
If teaching Critical Race Theory in schools is wrong, then CGT, i.e., "Critical Gender Theory" is egregious. Critical Race Theory is alleged to teach the country is founded upon systemic racism. Critical Gender Theory, i.e., feminist studies is based upon the theory that the country is founded upon systemic sexism. Given that white women have been equal participants with white men in the promulgation of racism, feminist studies should be far more offensive than CRT. White women were instrumental in slavery and owned almost half of all slaves and half the wealth when slavery ended. White women received reparations for free slaves - freed slaves received black codes and segregation supported by white women. The fact that people are accepting of one theory of systemic oppression which lacks any substantive or economic basis above the other theory which is supported by thousands of laws and court decisions basic speaks volumes about which theory has more validity.
The way I see it is that they are trying to fix a heart problem with laws and this will never work as only King Jesus can change our hearts. Thanks for this breakdown brothers 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@@politereminder6284 I agree. We live in a fallen, broken world. We cannot legislate morality in my opinion. Now I'm in no way saying that we should not fight for justice because we are called to be salt and light but we should not expect that everyone's world view will be the same as ours as followers of Jesus.
You are right. You can't fix a heart problem with laws, but when God's people get their hearts right then maybe.. just maybe.. they'll care enough to change America's systemic racism and change the many racist laws. Or even stop the ones they continue to pass even now!
I think we forget that “theory” means hypothesis and more an idea that isn’t even proven per se. The teaching this theory is just teaching the ideas of an idea. So idk where I stand on supporting it but I will say, it’s presented as theory and not fact. Which should be atleats an okay thing as long as we clearly expressed this is a theory. But idk where I stand on it anyway.
even tho i feel like reverse racism is not a thing, it def is an acknowledgment of the existence of racism. Additionally, when one says reverse racism, it just makes me think that they must already feel like they own racism. Because to reverse it on them, means they are already racist, and we are essentially fighting fire with fire in their eyes.
Brilliant. Well done. Listen and act, don't seek to overthrow. Celebrate diversity, see grace for all. Your preaching has reached someone not in the choir.
I really appreciate the discussion. There were some great points. Respectfully, I find there to be quite a bit of hypocrisy in both the social and religious components in which is supported and discussed. The acknowledgement of unfair practices, but the hesitation to confront them...is what has allowed them to prevail this long in our society. The Christian church supported and built most of the societal institutions based upon race, such as poll taxes, the convict lease system, Jim Crow laws, redlining, encampment, etc. And now to deflect and shy/run away from seriously addressing them; and just call upon Jesus... isn't creating a physical, living change for those you mention faces discrimination; past and present. And the above, is how the past and present privileged argue against changing a self righteous and beneficial system. Once again, I really appreciate the dialogue. May God bless you. 🙏🏾
@@davidhumphrey272 "The Christian Church"...the organized and/or institutional body of those who proclaimed to follow the ideas of righteousness, as interpreted from the life of Jesus The Christ. Such gentlemen as John Adams, George Washington and more... who were devout Christians, lawmakers, country founders, slaveholder, colonizer and supporter of selling humans as chattel.
Santa Claus is also a good role model for this but you shouldnt need a mythical figure from thousands of years ago to tell you to not be a selfish jerk
@@rioshelz2924 But it hasn't. Does that make me a bad person in your eyes? Is that the end goal? If I am part of the oppressor group, I'm already damned for eternity, right?
@@sayitaintso2900 Wow...sounds like you need to attend a course on CRT so that you can understand how systemic racism persists long after the passing of civil rights legislation in the 1960s.
Until the end of the video I would’ve never thought this video was created by a pastor… You relayed the truth without pushing and forcing your views down other’s throat‘s… I am not speaking on my experiences of all pastors but majority of them. They tend to force their views and opinions down other’s throat‘s… It normally does not take me long to go onto the next video. This one caught my attention from the start and I just wanted to say thank you. 👍
Diablosiron is to divide and that is what Satan wants. One is easily overtaken, two back, to back can take on many, and a rope of three strands can hold many times its own weight. We do not wrestle flesh and blood, but dark forces and principalities. Here is what we do. Be not for or against change, but be the change you want to see. Don't become so obsessed with a thing, that you become that thing.
It would have helped me accept the validity of the presentation in there had been a person of color as one of the speaker/presenters. Secondly, while I certainly appreciated you daring to try to address the issue It was not an unbiased assessment obviously, since one of the speakers acknowledged he was against CRT. Nonetheless, thx for the crash course. Pastor TL Rogers
CRT is understandable as long as it doesn't cross the systemic threshold. Meaning, that just because we are white, doesn't mean we are inherently racists. That way of thinking is decisive in intent and ridiculous.
Why would you need a “person of color” in the conversation? Does his skin color make him automatically worthy of speaking on the subject? I’m so confused by the commenters saying that a black person needs to be in this discussion as if the black person would know more about it simply because he’s black? Completely irrational thinking and racist
WHO RUNS THESE THEORIES, AT RISK GROUPS: aranoia, schizotypy, narcissism, and insecure attachment,[3] or to a form of cognitive bias called "illusory pattern perception" WIKI
@@robertrobin781 I respectfully disagree. All Hillbilly Bubba thinks of is beer, boobs, and steak burgers (meaning: the pleasures away from a long workday); however, I do think that his children need to know more than white U.S. history so that the next generations aren’t as ignorant as him.
@@JimmyK53 In a nutshell: Matthew 22:37-40 -- In essence, love God. "How do I do that?" By loving people. The "systemic" part is all the rules, policies, attitudes, and behaviors that go into accomplishing this. The breakdown is, rather than using Scripture's blueprint for loving others, we've built systems for loving ourselves, more and before, loving others. One of those faulty systems is based on skin color. In Luke 10:25-37, Jesus used the system of the Jews' hatred of Samaritans, to show that even those who were supposed to know Scripture, the priest and the Levite, were guilty of not following it. The Bible is full of this stuff. You just have look beneath the surface to see it.
Why don’t conservative critics of critical race theory offer their own critique of systemic oppression? If they’d done “the work” themselves, the left wouldn’t have had the whole field to themselves. Just seems intellectually bankrupt and completely reactive, when in truth the church is called to lead on issues of morality, not follow along behind carping and critiquing those who speak out against immoral systems of inequality and oppression. These guys put a polite, reasonable-sounding face on it, but as a black Christian I see this as the same old reactive conservative Christianity, protecting tradition, not the “least of these.” Just as conservative Christians opposed the Civil Rights Movement, denouncing MLK as a “Communist” (hello, J Edgar Hoover), todays evangelicals are picking the wrong side, yet again. With tragic consequences.
@@ericfraz1 absolutely but it's what their position requires. They just want the status quo to continue which means let's look the other way and criticize those who address it.
It would be better if you explore these issues both from a biblical perspective and a secular one. We don't really need to tie the solution to a certain religious belief, but good job nonetheless.
This country was founded on sinners, Biblically. According to Exodus 21:16 "And he that stealeth a man, and selleth him, or if he be found in his hand, he shall surely be put to death." All have sinned. Romans 3 tells us that "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God" The Bible tells us that the if we continue in the Word we shall be disciples and the truth shall make us free according to St. John 8:32. Second Corinthians 4:1-4 "Therefore seeing we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we faint not; 2 But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God. 3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: 4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them." As Christians people should be able to come together honestly and respectfully, knowing that God created man in his image.
I completely agree with you on your point, but after reading several of the comments to this video, I realize that the believers in CRT don’t want to fix problems, they want instead to beat white people down as a general principal. I know there are significant problems with racism in the U.S., especially promulgated by a racist police force, but it is not systemic. What is becoming systemic is the ongoing anti-white rhetoric growing into a prolifically racist sentiment. This, along with a recent presidents viper like tongue, is tearing our nation apart. The only thing that has even the smallest chance to repair this broken nation is dialog, understanding and a whole lot of patience from both sides of the problem.
I think its sad that you need bronze age middle eastern fairy tales to explain these things to you. The fact that you have to reference it makes me think you wouldnt even come to this conclusion on your own
Distorted view. That’s not what critical race theory is you’re bringing in other ideologies that distort what is actually written about it. You sort of mention that it is the study of systems, and they use that form of study to determine why there is such a disparity between ethnicities in our country after the civil rights movement. It examines things such as education, financial systems, political systems, and a bunch other systems you get the point. It is also taught to graduate students in law school not little kids. Why is it so hard to believe that there is systemic racism? We’ve had systemic racism for 90% of the existence of America. Jim Crowe didn’t go away altogether, it’ll probably take another hundred years for it to erode properly. Robyn D’Angelo is not one of the authors of critical race theory, but it’s interesting how her literature demonstrates how there is white fragility on the subject of racism, and how quickly something can be twisted because of white fragility. You didn’t own a slave, but you still vote, and you vote for things that clearly continue to hurt people of different ethnicities and in communities that are “White “. Allowing cocaine possession to Carry a lighter sentence than possessing crack cocaine, is an example of how a system targets people from a certain community. Heroin is killing young whites at an alarming rate, And now we are discussing getting people drug treatment instead of throwing them in jail, when blacks have been saying that about their community for years, but I guess a black life doesn’t matter.
And another thing, this whole narrative that they are teaching little kids to feel bad about themselves is bogus. This is made up by people who are definitely racist, and we’re not that stupid to believe it. Even the people who believe it, aren’t stupid they just want to believe it so they can continue being mean. I don’t know why so many poor people get tricked into believing stuff that is false, And created by people who have money who just need to create a fringe issue to keep power. This is 100% white supremacy
This is an excellent and unbiased explanation of CRT. Thank you for this very helpful teaching on such an extremely relevant issue in our culture today.
He’s so hung up on CRT being about overthrowing. CRT is about understanding how law and policy created inequality and oppression. The solution is not to overthrow, it’s about rewriting law and policy for equity. I about puked when I heard the question of CRT opposed to the Bible.
Critical Race theory is an extreme version of the Bible. God is natural. Everything under the sun has already been done. It's simple. Base nations are largest groups black white red yellow etc., then smaller groups of people and Bi-racial now, and from the past. Bi-racial can remix and become a small group or join A base nation an take on roles or both ways. Its just like chat rooms different avenues. Things simplified. There has to be people from the different groups to teach their values, etc. God likes order, he's not extreme, but things that hurt everyone's salvation, makes him angry. People that never grew-up Christian in life gets a choice, everyone gets a choice. The world obeys the laws of physics, so people die, children might die, but they have a choice to choose salvation. God has a set time to return, that's why he doesn't fly in and save everybody. God with us Christ is not into side shows. he was tempted to make side show. God give people purposes. Historical evidence points to whites having African ancestry 12000 years, they probably have less now, they moved out of Africa. But they always was Caucasian another group.
Dear Black people: Do not waste your time listening to videos like this. Make sure your people don't look at present day results that were set in motion throughout the history of this country, and feel inherently inferior. Teach them that poverty kills and your people were pushed to the bottom rung on this country before the laws were made equal. Then teach them that even if European Americans began to worship the ground that African Americans walked, and started to believe that they were inherently inferior to AAs, only a widespread and sustained effort to improve our economic standing in this country is going to change our disproportional results in this county. It doesn't matter how many EAs agree with CRT, the history of this country, the confederate flag, etc. Heaven is after death. So while you are living, understanding capitalism is how our people prevent slow extinction. Any person who isn't teaching you how to survive in a capitalistic system, while you struggle at the bottom of it, is wasting your time: irrespective of their skin color. disproportionately for AAs due America's history of oppressing AAs to the bottom and our inability to collectively climb out from the bottom. Yes we need more time and have only been completely free for 50 or so years, but we are free and we have work to do. See you at work!
Can you guys please revisit this topic but have a black pastor/christian give their perspective? While there is truth in some of what you guys have said, you are missing some other things because you can only view the world as white men. I am a Latino/Black Christian, I do not share the same perspectives that you guys have about racism. I do not feel like this perspective of CRT can truly be understood unless you have some christians who are experts in CRT speak on it.
@@JohnM-sw4sc you can’t be reading the scriptures and not see the vengeance that the God of Israel is going to do to the heathen nations because of what they have done to Israel aka the Real Tribes of Israel.
Racism isn’t biblical it is a tradition of European men originally called the European cast system. Colossians 2:8 King James Version 8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
What a load of garbage 1. first Critical theory was not created nor used by Carl Marx - it was developed as a study on social constructs of mainly culture and literature. It was originally taught in Frankfurt, Germany. The fact that this is being put out as a formal criticism of Christian group is even worse. Answer this question "did God give man free will?" then ask "did God give you free will to take away others free will?" if you believe he did then finally ask yourself "how is me taking away others free will make me like Jesus?" Lastly CRT is taught in Graduate Level School, Law School, it is NOT taught in College, High School, Junior High, or Elementary. It is not a system of government rather a study of how government works.
He is talking around the topic and keeps talking about feminism. The American system and structure are racism realistically. The American middle class was built in a racist fashion. White people got housing loans. Black people were denied housing loans purely based on the color of their skin. The GI bill could’ve somewhat bridged the gap in racial/ethnic disparities and white fragility failed it.
You should actually read some of the articles for yourself and interact with the ideas instead of letting other people “describe” CRT for you. You can find CRT articles on line
I totally agree. I believe he is refering to a tangential opinion presented by Marx to support his class theories in Marxism, but I don't believe the moderm concept of CRT was interested in Marx's views on class divergence.
The definition of CRT given here is so off-base it's laughable. But it's no surprise a white conservative channel would describe like this. I'm trying to understand why conservatives hate CRT so much. This does explain a lot of that hatred, though.
After all that he doesn’t explain what the theory is? To claim the society is systematically racist is simple. Saying how , a little harder……….. I would say the fear of being sued has helped control people’s behavior. I encourage everyone to keep a camera in you pocket. It might be a big payday. Can you think of a better way to make money than to take it away from a racist.
It appears, the theory has identified a problem but has not provided any solutions. All we can do is help make education viable for the serious student. Everything else , like discrimination in the work place is already illegal . All I’m saying is society should offer opportunity , it’s up to the individual to take advantage of those opportunities.
Seems this is even explained with some kind of trick involved, it's easy if you explan onthe terms to educate not influence toward a opinion. This guy isn't straight. How about this we all have heard history now let's tell individual stories, let opinions be made by thought process, history with a twist of truth. I would want to know more stories of people of color or immigrants from. Other countries. The past is lesson on mistakes not need to be repeated, can't change what is kept secret.
I would not use the term racism, I would use the Biblical term of self-righteousness. In other words if someone says what do I think about racism I should respond do you mean self-righteousness?
@@applefarm6126 Thank you for your response, and I look forward to the potential for a productive conversation regarding your thoughts and mine. I think I might have responded with a question instead of a possibly wrong answer or right. I would think that gaining understanding of what the other is actually thinking instead of using potentially faulty criteria to surmise another's thoughts should be more useful. In other words when a theory/assumption/conjecture/imagination is made unquestionable then I would say that is consistent to dogmatism. So, the question to you what are your thoughts on my response to your comment?
Critical theory is based on Marxist social philosophy. Critical race theory posits that systems of merit (the meritocracy) are inherently born out of white supremacy and that racism is normative rather than aberrational. This all surrounds like classic Marxist narratives of superstructure and substructure. This is what critical theory is about. No one is hiding it’s Marxist. The founders of critical race theory and BLM were Marxist. All critical theories were founded by Marxist. You might say “CTR is just historical facts” but that’s only from a Marxist paradigm.
@@mariog1490 You have it backwards and are using Marx as a dog whistle for for bigots. Marx is irrelevant in this. All humans are wary of those who are not like them. When there is a majority of one group, there is a natural tendency to treat the minority as inferior. This natural tendency causes unproductive conflict. Encouraging it is contrary to the teachings of Jesus.
@@Larry000 tendency means aberrational. CRT does not say racism is a tendency. It says it’s central and ordinary. Again, you can search this up. It’s not a secret critical theory is Marxist. There’s no rabbit in the hat here. If you don’t know social philosophy then don’t talk about it. Substructure and superstructure is a social philosophy theory. Racism is the substructure and the superstructure is everything else in society: institutions, meritocracies, politics, psychology, etc.Again, the founders of critical race theory were Marxist. And pretty much all CRT intellectuals are Marxist. This isn’t a conspiracy. They openly say this. There are many quotes from CRT professors that capitalism is inherently racist.
@@Larry000 I notice ideological liberals say CRT is true. I don’t think you understand the baggage of saying racism is systematic. CRT is actually anti-liberal. CRT isn’t the Democrats. CRT is a social philosophy. This is all really complex and people are now just casually saying systemic racism is true and it’s just history. This claim operates in a set of paradigms and the fact that you’re here watching this video using Jesus to justify CRT shows your lack of knowledge on CRT. Before you make a claim, you should always understand the baggage associated with it.
I would like to persuade the open- minded people who have watched this video to seek out other information on Critical Race Theory.
Why?
I’m trying to be open minded on this subject, do you have a suggestion or link to a video you would recommend?
@@sayitaintso2900 the closed minded will always be behind the open minded
@@ordolin wow, I hope that's a quote. Let that one float around folks. Whoa!
@@fitz3466 i would highly recommend dr. gloria ladson billings as a good starting point
Since this was a video made two years ago. I forgive you, Bobby. Critical Race Theory it's simple. It examines the racial bias in the justice system, employment, housing and how race plays a key role economically. It breaks down inequality of a system that wasn't created for black Americans to succeed. Instead it discusses a system created to benefit white people. Now where's the lie in that. 💯
CRT was developed in the 80's as graduate level coursework to study the bias' (intended or otherwise) in our system. It's the study of, not a solution to, racial bias in policy.
Apparently they struggled to find some real apparent cases of "racism" (or those that were apparent, were those that they did not want to talk about).
So why is it so controversial. It was not on the radar until DeSantis tried to ban the discussion of it. Institutional racism is real and to deny it is just to live in a state of deception. .
@@tiania2658 It's controversial, because people finally noticed the gaslighting. 'Institutional Racism' against whom exactly? Certainly not those that get affirmative action benefits or those that benefit from ethnic networking.
Three is nothing scholarly about it - it’s just the practice of calling everyone / everything racist until they give into what you want.
@@acc4465 Well, everyone is of course racist, because being racist is 'human nature'. After all, dads care more about their kids than about kids from other dads. And well they should. If they don't there is something really wrong with them. Just as kids should care more about their parents and siblings than about other people. The problem is that people have been conditioned to think that there is something wrong with 'racism' and that it is somehow a meaningful term to describe reality in the way they where conditioned what it means. The lingual history of the term is however quite revealing. Who came up with it, popularized it and how did it find entry into academia where it is used now as if it is describing something rationally meaningful?
I think we are making this harder to understand than it really is. We are making excuses for what's obvious. It's not rocket science. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. If you believe it, you'll do it.
Amen
@@iBeauty96 no that the word I'm in is related to amunra when you say I'm in it is a Christian pagan term you are praying and or giving praise to Amen Rah the pharaoh
The golden rule is old and flawed. It existed before social sciences and it doesn’t consider that people don’t always intentionally harm others. Being racist can happen to all of us and it doesn’t make us bad. Sometimes it’s due to a lack of education which translates to a lack of understanding and empathy.
@@CurioChris86 why is it flawed?
@@shindig9000 because you don’t treat others how you want to be treated if you yourself are treating yourself poorly due to unfortunate life events. If you hate yourself you will probably treat yourself poorly (consciously or unconsciously) which may lead you to poorly treat others as a result. Golden rule should be to treat others with dignity.
This would have been much more interesting and productive if you had an African American pastor who is pro-Civil Rights engage in a dialogue with the white anti-CRT pastor here. This is just more preaching to the choir rather than reaching across the aisle to increase understanding. I’d encourage the folks behind this video to consider a follow-up along the lines I’ve suggested here.
Totally agree. There are assumptions and positions in this conversation that are not backed by anything but opinion. Sad
Agee. I was wondering why there was not a black person involved in this conversation.
2 white guys discussing race theory. If your serious vote a native American for president.
I agree with the first half of your statement....."2 white guys discussing race theory" as somewhat laughable yet at the sametime would we rather have white people care and be apart of change or not even care or even worse be apart of the problem. Voting for a president whether native american, multi background meaning a mixture of two or more backgrounds or singular should be based on the persons internal moral code of ingerity and a set of principles of which help guide them spiritually to making fair and just decisions for ALL people and not just one group no matter their outside apparence.
I'm trying to learn more about CRT and this was a horrible start for me. Especially as a black Christian...Except for the last maybe 45secs, that was good
Trolling both sides takes a lot of patience, resolve, and a little bit of heart.
Hats off, guys.
Slavery ended 165 years ago. Get over it.
CRT is dead.
@@emrixenterprises1744 is "dead" or "death"?
This is one of the least substantive conversations I have heard on CRT. CRT simply states that racism isn’t simply denoted by personal relations but that racism was also embedded in many American social, political, economic, educational, judicial, and financial,. etc, structures and institutions via regulations, policies, and laws as a result of its historical legacy.
CRT makes those claims but cannot prove it back any of them up. The CRT group doesn’t give much in the way of evidence as it doesn’t believe in objective truth
CRT certainly isn't in the Bible. We're all equally in a "wrong relationship", "negative standing", with our Creator prior to Salvation. It's a sin problem NOT a skin problem. There's ONLY one race, the human race. ❤️
Lots of things are not in the Bible. Even the authors of the new testament say that they cannot record everything. 👀
The Bible does talk about righteousness and justice. Whereas one doesn't have to embrace CRT,every Christian does have to recognize that there is a genuine societal problem with racism and with structures that result in racist results.
Amen, amen, amen 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
It’s not in the Bible because we didn’t live in the same societal system…thats a nonsense take. And that isn’t what or how CRZt is explained or works
@Edward Decker - The Intelligence of an Oyster 👍🤣😂😭
As a negroe, I would like to have a conversation with you on CRT and its importance for my people to know what really happened to our identity in America and why it was taken away from us/hidden
WHY NOT HAVE PEOPLE FORM BOTH SIDES OF THE ARGUMENT INSTEAD OF ONE SIDE
Why you don’t wanna intimidate little Timmy .
hard to find radicals to admit to the full extent of their ideas
CRT attempts to identify the problematic dynamics that are present in a rigged socioeconomic structure, legal system, education system, etc. After identifying these problems, CRT attempts to solve them *not* by advocating for equality, unity, compassion, opening strong lines of communication, etc. but by largely reversing the script and targeting white people instead of black people. This is insanity. As Einstein wisely said, “You can’t solve problems by using the same type of thinking that created them.”
CRT essentially says that being white is a problem and is bad. Sound familiar? It sounds just like what white people who are racist would say about black people.
CRT passionately advocates for school curriculums to teach white kids, and their white parents, that being white automatically makes you ‘bad’, ‘mean’, ‘guilty’. Sound familiar? Racism revolves around associating the color of one’s skin with notions that are learned early in life.
It is very, very, long over due that systemic racism is addressed, but doing so via CRT is only going to deepen the divide between people of different races. What’s happening is horrifying. Seriously. This belongs in some type of dystopian fiction novel where a massive unethical experiment is conducted to see if the roles of the oppressed and the oppressors can be flipped.
If the goal is equality, as it should be, then people need to become colorblind to race!
You have no idea what Critical Race Theory Means.
Being where makes you bad? lol😂 where did you get that from?
You simply feel threatened that dismantling this White power structure means someone will oppress you because that’s how how you all think someone has to be the leading oppressor and rather not you smh 🤦🏾♀️ we just want equal rights
Extremely biased views on CRT. It's clear these two are still unable to understand what the other side is truly saying. This conversation is full of pretended, condescending faux humility
I agree
11:50 - 13:13: “There are some things…” Those things are sin, which God hates. You’re being soft on those sins because they’re not a part of your White Evangelical Christian culture. You’ve attempted to understand CRT-a theoretical framework taught in law schools-because your culture sees teaching actual American history (which is being conflated with CRT) as an important enough threat to their comforts and status quo. How have you attempted to understand something 99% of us will never understand, but you haven’t taken the time to understand the reason for the race conversation: Racism. You know systemic racism exists, as you softly alluded, but it’s not important enough to you and your culture to actually understand and challenge! Now take a look at the Southern Baptist Convention and ask yourself why it is falling apart. It’s because your Black neighbors aren’t important enough for you to know and love. By the way, racism is about human inferiority/superiority. In American history the devaluing of African slaves was strategic for justifying their brutalization in slavery for economic gain. Today, the American church needs to take a good look in the mirror and feel God’s anger from Psalm 7:11.
Who cares if he's white? Smh. And I highly doubt you accurately speak for him. And no it doesn't exist
Ya, that attitude will fix everything. You don’t seem to want resolutions to a problem, but rather tearing down all whites appears to be the goal in your statement. I resent your hatefulness and deny your allusion that all whites are systemic racist. In fact, what you say here feels racist towards all white people, but you cant see that…more likely, you won’t see that will you. What a shame.
Most of what was said was on point, but one noticeable misunderstanding. We all have prejudices/heart issues we need to continuously confess and forsake. But prejudice is not the same as racism. It might have originated in the heart, but it is now ingrained in our American system of oppression. It is also a slap in the face to say these things take time. How much time has already passed?! We don't need more time, we need men and women of God to ACT. Love IS action. So let's not just talk about theories, but ask God how YOU can work toward change, and then DO IT. God bless you for trying to understand.
But this is firstly about explaining what C.R.T. is, which they fail at to a cetain extend cuz they fail to aknowledge that it is reactionary ideology camouflaged as scientific endeavor. It is not scientific because they don't leave open if systemic racism exists at all, they just take it to be the case and they don't show any evidence other than putcome disparities which could or can be caused by a number of things (like upbringing in an two or one parent household, etc.). That in some cases the black population struggles more in the U.S. can be explained by a number of factors other than racial group membership. They don't factor in other explanations at all! So if the outcomes are different for different races, the outcomes must and only be caused by systemic racism. Also if the answer is this general in nature, how can impactful solutions be generated? In other words by saying everything is racist they never have to come up with feasable solutions other than to tear everything down. C.R.T. does not strife to solve racism, it actively supports racial seggregation and rejects racial integration and liberalism thus it wants to get back to the way it was before the civil rights movement and Martin Luther King JR.! We cannot let that happen.
Prejudice is literally in the definition of racism.
@@rosalinamay22 sure. Racism falls under the umbrella of prejudice. But not all prejudices are racism. You can be white and be prejudice against a white homeless man begging on the street corner.
Well said. I’m so incredibly disappointed in our so-called church leaders position when it comes to crt and racism smh.
Sounds like you drank the Kool aid. CRT is a modern form of Marxism. Like all other forms of Marxism, it's purpose is not to unite but to divide - so these divisions can be exploited for political power.
Wanna understand CRT? Then read an academically rigorous book about it. The best one out there is called "Cynical Theories."
I'll warn you, CRT is incredibly difficult stuff to understand.. But if you make the effort, you will confirm that everything I'm telling you is accurate. CRT is pure snake oil from the pit of hell.
You should be getting your information from a PhD who teaches CRT. Not a pastor explaining what they think it is.
*Here is a PHD CRT author's quote:*
"In order to be anti-racist, you must be anti-capitalist".
-quote by Ibram X. Kendi - top CRT author required in the US military, unfortunately.
CRT is Marxism but they repackage and hide it in their books.
More CRT Quotes from that "PHD wonder" named Mr. Kendi:
"Racism and capitalism go hand in hand".
"The only cure for past discrimination is present discrimination".
MS-NBC and CNN have it wrong on this one.
I agree, they should have someone who is an expert on the subject explain what it is, not someone who can't even quote a single book or lecture
A PhD in black frustration lmao
I like the approach. I want to see all sides to understand where the issue is.
Around 18:00 imagine the slave masters of the south being monolithic in their punitive actions
When CRT say America is inherititively racist it's not saying that it's inherited biologically. But rather it's pass down or taught from generations to generations. We all inherited behaviors and traits that we pickup from our parents. And racism is one of them.
21:45 - I really thought he was going to go into the whole “Jesus is the only answer” cop out. I didn’t think he was going to address what’s needed from the pulpit… this is the IMPORTANCE of HEARING people out. Man this was GOOD good…
Racism is a sin no matter what your ethnicity is. It should be repented of by each individual just as any sin committed . Gods word stands alone and can't be substituted . It needs no help defining sin and doesn't need any help confronting man's sin nature. Anyone who will try to justify slavery of any ethnic group is misguided. The Bible tells us we all sin and come short of the glory of God. We all were created in the image of God and should be treated accordingly. Focus on Jesus Christ and what he did for each individual on the cross . One day there will be peace , equality and absolutely no prejudice or racism after the 2nd coming of Chtist when he rules this earth. Racism is a sin that can be repented of and to tell anyone they have committed a sin they can't be forgiven of other than blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is unbiblical. Jesus Christ is the answer for all our sins.
You nailed it!
What is God's glory?
Lol, in Bible it's written how the idol worshipers are lower, stupid and prostitutes. Bible is a discriminatory book and all the European colonisation throughout history was funded and supported by church.
@@priyagupta6272 what would you have in place of the bible then?
Where is racism defined in the Gospel?
Try studying the year 1681 when the word “white “ was invented to describe a people. You might learn something.Real history is what we need to learn and understand
I am homeschooling my son I didn't teach CRTC. What I did teach him about was the history of the world. The hardest part of learning history is the last 100 years of history. The CCP was started by a teacher in China and followed Marxist doctrine that killed millions. The USSR was started based on Marxist doctrine and again millions were killed. Laos tried to use Marxist doctrine and again millions were killed. Cuba rounded up all educated people and killed them based on Marxist ideas. In all cases the first generation was enthusiastic until after the revolution when the people realized communism is hell on earth. The next generation until present hate the idea. If you are debating CRTC and it is based on Marxists ideas you obviously don't know your history. No person that knows history would want their children and grandchildren to live or be killed in a communist country. I don't care if it hurts feelings this is extremely important study the last 100 years of world history. Any doctrine that uses Marxist ideas is a hard no it does not matter what race you are communism is really bad for every race!
Of course a christian apologist is going to have this stance. There is little chance for him to objectively evaluate CRT with this level of initial bias. Quite ironic.
6:08 you better park it for a few seconds a human implies a hued man or colored man whereas the antonym for that would be neanderthal which means one that neander's or one that wanders around as they have wandered and too many people's backyards and settle for what they have whether it was given freely or not there are some that would chop off your hands when being given things free in order to make sure they get everything oh and the lieu of profit it is not every white man but those that know better have been taught that it is okay also I think this is what critical waste theory is about mainly
Did I just hear the term..... Reverse Racism???? I'm disappointed. That is not a logical concept, especially with there being multiple definitions of racism. The term reverse racism is dismissive to the struggle of the residue that slavery left behind. If it weren't so you wouldn't be talking about it right now, we would all have an understanding that it is important to be educated about our short comings as a society so we don't keep repeating them as we have.
If we are truly sons and daughters of God we would lead with Love and have open hearts to understand before we formulate opinions and respond.
Crt seems to be way off topic. You put 1 Indian, 1 African, 1 Asian, 1 caucasian on a team together and tell them to build a fence. Crt goes out the window so long as everyone is putting in some effort.
Now as a civilization we have gotten to a point where everyone on the planet can live comfortably, it's only leadership of certain countries that don't allow it in their own countries. The vast amount of knowledge we as a whole have contributed makes it possible.
But now we need some really clever thinking and even after free knowledge, improved pastures which literally gives us brain food, there are still people on this planet who through cultural constructs or peer pressure would rather drag the chain instead of help lead the way
If teaching Critical Race Theory in schools is wrong, then CGT, i.e., "Critical Gender Theory" is egregious. Critical Race Theory is alleged to teach the country is founded upon systemic racism. Critical Gender Theory, i.e., feminist studies is based upon the theory that the country is founded upon systemic sexism. Given that white women have been equal participants with white men in the promulgation of racism, feminist studies should be far more offensive than CRT. White women were instrumental in slavery and owned almost half of all slaves and half the wealth when slavery ended. White women received reparations for free slaves - freed slaves received black codes and segregation supported by white women. The fact that people are accepting of one theory of systemic oppression which lacks any substantive or economic basis above the other theory which is supported by thousands of laws and court decisions basic speaks volumes about which theory has more validity.
The way I see it is that they are trying to fix a heart problem with laws and this will never work as only King Jesus can change our hearts. Thanks for this breakdown brothers 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Kind of like how pro lifers are trying to fix a sin problem with reorganizing legal powers and structures? 👀
@@politereminder6284 I agree. We live in a fallen, broken world. We cannot legislate morality in my opinion. Now I'm in no way saying that we should not fight for justice because we are called to be salt and light but we should not expect that everyone's world view will be the same as ours as followers of Jesus.
You are right. You can't fix a heart problem with laws, but when God's people get their hearts right then maybe.. just maybe.. they'll care enough to change America's systemic racism and change the many racist laws. Or even stop the ones they continue to pass even now!
I think we forget that “theory” means hypothesis and more an idea that isn’t even proven per se. The teaching this theory is just teaching the ideas of an idea. So idk where I stand on supporting it but I will say, it’s presented as theory and not fact. Which should be atleats an okay thing as long as we clearly expressed this is a theory. But idk where I stand on it anyway.
What’s wrong with people learning about the existence of racism?
Isn’t “reverse racism” an acknowledgement of racism? 😐🤷🏾♂️
even tho i feel like reverse racism is not a thing, it def is an acknowledgment of the existence of racism. Additionally, when one says reverse racism, it just makes me think that they must already feel like they own racism. Because to reverse it on them, means they are already racist, and we are essentially fighting fire with fire in their eyes.
@@gablespark173 - exactly! It’s contradictory!
Those who oppress don't want the world to know who they are. They want to hide behind their racist views and fiction teaching history
Brilliant. Well done. Listen and act, don't seek to overthrow. Celebrate diversity, see grace for all. Your preaching has reached someone not in the choir.
White people are so ashamed that they entire history is them steal from the labor of minorities and they just refuse to give any of it back
@@bobs4429 being a grammar Nazi is still being a Nazi
Haven’t we celebrated diversity for decades and decades?
@@acc4465 Some have, some haven't. What is new is some of those who haven't are trying to prevent those of us who have from such celebrations.
@@bobs4429I’m 50 and we have celebrated diversity forever - we celebrate diversity too much.
Is there a Critical Stock Theory?
Yes for celery
All you need to do is read the Maryland Doctrine of Exclusion
I really appreciate the discussion. There were some great points. Respectfully, I find there to be quite a bit of hypocrisy in both the social and religious components in which is supported and discussed. The acknowledgement of unfair practices, but the hesitation to confront them...is what has allowed them to prevail this long in our society. The Christian church supported and built most of the societal institutions based upon race, such as poll taxes, the convict lease system, Jim Crow laws, redlining, encampment, etc. And now to deflect and shy/run away from seriously addressing them; and just call upon Jesus... isn't creating a physical, living change for those you mention faces discrimination; past and present. And the above, is how the past and present privileged argue against changing a self righteous and beneficial system.
Once again, I really appreciate the dialogue. May God bless you. 🙏🏾
what do you mean by "The Christian church"? Pretty sure you don't know what you're saying
@@davidhumphrey272 "The Christian Church"...the organized and/or institutional body of those who proclaimed to follow the ideas of righteousness, as interpreted from the life of Jesus The Christ. Such gentlemen as John Adams, George Washington and more... who were devout Christians, lawmakers, country founders, slaveholder, colonizer and supporter of selling humans as chattel.
The ( UnGodly ) Huh ?
@@ShakirStudioswell you shut that assumption down well said
Brilliantly said
Wow you guys are super close in proximity!
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Ugh… you guys are way overthinking things. Jesus couldn’t have simplified things for us more by directing us to love God and to love one another.
Santa Claus is also a good role model for this but you shouldnt need a mythical figure from thousands of years ago to tell you to not be a selfish jerk
He doesn't see where systemic racism is embedded but feels he understands CRT enough to not support it
That is because systemic tacism has not been proven. If people want to blame the system, they celebrate absolving themselves of full accountability.
@@sayitaintso2900 but it has and somebody like you rather not accept it
@@rioshelz2924 But it hasn't. Does that make me a bad person in your eyes? Is that the end goal? If I am part of the oppressor group, I'm already damned for eternity, right?
@@sayitaintso2900 Wow...sounds like you need to attend a course on CRT so that you can understand how systemic racism persists long after the passing of civil rights legislation in the 1960s.
@@jonh901271 I have taken several voluntary and mandatory CRT courses. My point still stands.
Until the end of the video I would’ve never thought this video was created by a pastor… You relayed the truth without pushing and forcing your views down other’s throat‘s… I am not speaking on my experiences of all pastors but majority of them. They tend to force their views and opinions down other’s throat‘s… It normally does not take me long to go onto the next video. This one caught my attention from the start and I just wanted to say thank you. 👍
I hate how close they are sitting in front of each other.
What he didn't speak about is CRITICAL RACE HISTORICAL FACTS, not theory.
Diablosiron is to divide and that is what Satan wants. One is easily overtaken, two back, to back can take on many, and a rope of three strands can hold many times its own weight. We do not wrestle flesh and blood, but dark forces and principalities. Here is what we do. Be not for or against change, but be the change you want to see. Don't become so obsessed with a thing, that you become that thing.
It would help to define what it is before talking so much about what it influenced and how much..what is critical race theory?
It would have helped me accept the validity of the presentation in there had been a person of color as one of the speaker/presenters. Secondly, while I certainly appreciated you daring to try to address the issue It was not an unbiased assessment obviously, since one of the speakers acknowledged he was against CRT. Nonetheless, thx for the crash course.
Pastor TL Rogers
Why do you need one? If something is true it is so objectively and independently from the person saying it!
@@mattthewpiper7395 exactly
CRT is understandable as long as it doesn't cross the systemic threshold. Meaning, that just because we are white, doesn't mean we are inherently racists. That way of thinking is decisive in intent and ridiculous.
Why would you need a “person of color” in the conversation? Does his skin color make him automatically worthy of speaking on the subject? I’m so confused by the commenters saying that a black person needs to be in this discussion as if the black person would know more about it simply because he’s black? Completely irrational thinking and racist
WHO RUNS THESE THEORIES, AT RISK GROUPS: aranoia, schizotypy, narcissism, and insecure attachment,[3] or to a form of cognitive bias called "illusory pattern perception" WIKI
Read Voddie Baucham Book Faultlines. He address everything from a very clear and biblical view.!
Anyway, it should be said:
BEST video about CRT: Hbomberguys 'Sargons Petition: A Measured Response'!! Check it out.
Second-Best: Wisecrack.
CRT is for intellectual; not the average every day person.
I disagree, this affects everyone in someway or another. Knowing what affects you is always better than being blinded
@@robertrobin781 I respectfully disagree. All Hillbilly Bubba thinks of is beer, boobs, and steak burgers (meaning: the pleasures away from a long workday); however, I do think that his children need to know more than white U.S. history so that the next generations aren’t as ignorant as him.
Interesting how the entire subject is based and referenced from the start of the Bible.
I'd love to hear how the start of the bible addresses systemic racism
@@JimmyK53 In a nutshell: Matthew 22:37-40 -- In essence, love God. "How do I do that?" By loving people. The "systemic" part is all the rules, policies, attitudes, and behaviors that go into accomplishing this. The breakdown is, rather than using Scripture's blueprint for loving others, we've built systems for loving ourselves, more and before, loving others. One of those faulty systems is based on skin color. In Luke 10:25-37, Jesus used the system of the Jews' hatred of Samaritans, to show that even those who were supposed to know Scripture, the priest and the Levite, were guilty of not following it.
The Bible is full of this stuff. You just have look beneath the surface to see it.
@@GregoryAThrower Matthew is not the start of the Bible... also the fact you need to look beneath the surface speaks volumes about this.
Why don’t conservative critics of critical race theory offer their own critique of systemic oppression? If they’d done “the work” themselves, the left wouldn’t have had the whole field to themselves. Just seems intellectually bankrupt and completely reactive, when in truth the church is called to lead on issues of morality, not follow along behind carping and critiquing those who speak out against immoral systems of inequality and oppression. These guys put a polite, reasonable-sounding face on it, but as a black Christian I see this as the same old reactive conservative Christianity, protecting tradition, not the “least of these.” Just as conservative Christians opposed the Civil Rights Movement, denouncing MLK as a “Communist” (hello, J Edgar Hoover), todays evangelicals are picking the wrong side, yet again. With tragic consequences.
@@ericfraz1 absolutely but it's what their position requires. They just want the status quo to continue which means let's look the other way and criticize those who address it.
Wow. This saddens me to the point I’ve contemplated turning my back on these so- called church leaders and the faith!
They are all sinners don't you know?
Why turn your back on a faith because of people when the faith should already be telling you what to expect?
Black slavery still exists in Africa let's not talk about it !
Because it's in Africa we should definitely have it here... Russia is attacking Ukrane we should definitely do the same?
No everything flows from the Gospel. Not the other way around!
So…they don’t know the studies of crt very well
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It would be better if you explore these issues both from a biblical perspective and a secular one. We don't really need to tie the solution to a certain religious belief, but good job nonetheless.
Where in scriptures does it say murder and force people to become Christian?
This country was founded on sinners, Biblically. According to Exodus 21:16 "And he that stealeth a man, and selleth him, or if he be found in his hand, he shall surely be put to death." All have sinned. Romans 3 tells us that "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God" The Bible tells us that the if we continue in the Word we shall be disciples and the truth shall make us free according to St. John 8:32. Second Corinthians 4:1-4 "Therefore seeing we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we faint not;
2 But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God.
3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them." As Christians people should be able to come together honestly and respectfully, knowing that God created man in his image.
@philo betto Yes
@philo betto you are welcome
I completely agree with you on your point, but after reading several of the comments to this video, I realize that the believers in CRT don’t want to fix problems, they want instead to beat white people down as a general principal. I know there are significant problems with racism in the U.S., especially promulgated by a racist police force, but it is not systemic. What is becoming systemic is the ongoing anti-white rhetoric growing into a prolifically racist sentiment. This, along with a recent presidents viper like tongue, is tearing our nation apart. The only thing that has even the smallest chance to repair this broken nation is dialog, understanding and a whole lot of patience from both sides of the problem.
I think its sad that you need bronze age middle eastern fairy tales to explain these things to you. The fact that you have to reference it makes me think you wouldnt even come to this conclusion on your own
@@SevenPr1me blablabla
I'm superior! I don't care what color you are to me I am more superior then you. Walk through life like a victom, you prove my point!!
Distorted view. That’s not what critical race theory is you’re bringing in other ideologies that distort what is actually written about it. You sort of mention that it is the study of systems, and they use that form of study to determine why there is such a disparity between ethnicities in our country after the civil rights movement. It examines things such as education, financial systems, political systems, and a bunch other systems you get the point. It is also taught to graduate students in law school not little kids. Why is it so hard to believe that there is systemic racism? We’ve had systemic racism for 90% of the existence of America. Jim Crowe didn’t go away altogether, it’ll probably take another hundred years for it to erode properly. Robyn D’Angelo is not one of the authors of critical race theory, but it’s interesting how her literature demonstrates how there is white fragility on the subject of racism, and how quickly something can be twisted because of white fragility. You didn’t own a slave, but you still vote, and you vote for things that clearly continue to hurt people of different ethnicities and in communities that are “White “. Allowing cocaine possession to Carry a lighter sentence than possessing crack cocaine, is an example of how a system targets people from a certain community. Heroin is killing young whites at an alarming rate, And now we are discussing getting people drug treatment instead of throwing them in jail, when blacks have been saying that about their community for years, but I guess a black life doesn’t matter.
And another thing, this whole narrative that they are teaching little kids to feel bad about themselves is bogus. This is made up by people who are definitely racist, and we’re not that stupid to believe it. Even the people who believe it, aren’t stupid they just want to believe it so they can continue being mean. I don’t know why so many poor people get tricked into believing stuff that is false, And created by people who have money who just need to create a fringe issue to keep power. This is 100% white supremacy
This is an excellent and unbiased explanation of CRT. Thank you for this very helpful teaching on such an extremely relevant issue in our culture today.
In your bias opinion
@@quinnd79 get a job
@@daMillenialTrucker go vote for Biden, pussy
@@quinnd79 I actually voted for Trump lol I thought you were a lefty 😂
@@daMillenialTrucker you need better comprehension skills man...
CRT will allow white folk to comment about race/slavery without brown folk laughing
*Critical Species Law
He’s so hung up on CRT being about overthrowing. CRT is about understanding how law and policy created inequality and oppression. The solution is not to overthrow, it’s about rewriting law and policy for equity.
I about puked when I heard the question of CRT opposed to the Bible.
Critical Race theory is an extreme version of the Bible. God is natural. Everything under the sun has already been done. It's simple. Base nations are largest groups black white red yellow etc., then smaller groups of people and Bi-racial now, and from the past. Bi-racial can remix and become a small group or join A base nation an take on roles or both ways. Its just like chat rooms different avenues. Things simplified. There has to be people from the different groups to teach their values, etc. God likes order, he's not extreme, but things that hurt everyone's salvation, makes him angry. People that never grew-up Christian in life gets a choice, everyone gets a choice. The world obeys the laws of physics, so people die, children might die, but they have a choice to choose salvation. God has a set time to return, that's why he doesn't fly in and save everybody. God with us Christ is not into side shows. he was tempted to make side show. God give people purposes. Historical evidence points to whites having African ancestry 12000 years, they probably have less now, they moved out of Africa. But they always was Caucasian another group.
Interesting - began to clear the fog which is CRT....
Dear Black people: Do not waste your time listening to videos like this. Make sure your people don't look at present day results that were set in motion throughout the history of this country, and feel inherently inferior. Teach them that poverty kills and your people were pushed to the bottom rung on this country before the laws were made equal.
Then teach them that even if European Americans began to worship the ground that African Americans walked, and started to believe that they were inherently inferior to AAs, only a widespread and sustained effort to improve our economic standing in this country is going to change our disproportional results in this county.
It doesn't matter how many EAs agree with CRT, the history of this country, the confederate flag, etc. Heaven is after death. So while you are living, understanding capitalism is how our people prevent slow extinction. Any person who isn't teaching you how to survive in a capitalistic system, while you struggle at the bottom of it, is wasting your time: irrespective of their skin color.
disproportionately for AAs due America's history of oppressing AAs to the bottom and our inability to collectively climb out from the bottom.
Yes we need more time and have only been completely free for 50 or so years, but we are free and we have work to do.
See you at work!
Can you guys please revisit this topic but have a black pastor/christian give their perspective? While there is truth in some of what you guys have said, you are missing some other things because you can only view the world as white men. I am a Latino/Black Christian, I do not share the same perspectives that you guys have about racism. I do not feel like this perspective of CRT can truly be understood unless you have some christians who are experts in CRT speak on it.
CRT was develeved as a graduate level law course. Why not skip the clergy and ask a black law professor to explain it with facts.
Y’all are going to get punished for the work of y’all fathers, doesn’t matter how much y’all apologize, justice will be served
Y'all gonna be punished by the work of yo fathers to.
We are already going through it and have been going through it since hard bondage aka legalized slavery
You better go read the Bible again and make sure to read it in the Gospel as well
@@JohnM-sw4sc you can’t be reading the scriptures and not see the vengeance that the God of Israel is going to do to the heathen nations because of what they have done to Israel aka the Real Tribes of Israel.
so 360,000 of us die fighting is but were all due to be punished? why? because we bled for you in vain?
Wow! What a wonderful and intelligent conversation between two, good Christian men. We can all learn something from this! Thanks guys!
How do you know these men are good? What makes you think two white men can give an anbiased opinion of CRT?
Very good observations and sensitivity of SELF. What is the self doing, perceiving.
What is reverse racism?
Racism isn’t biblical it is a tradition of European men originally called the European cast system.
Colossians 2:8
King James Version
8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
Racism has nothing to do with sex or geography.
What are you saying? 👀
Is the Bible a white structure?
Start w revamping the Constitution
How?
What a load of garbage 1. first Critical theory was not created nor used by Carl Marx - it was developed as a study on social constructs of mainly culture and literature. It was originally taught in Frankfurt, Germany. The fact that this is being put out as a formal criticism of Christian group is even worse. Answer this question "did God give man free will?" then ask "did God give you free will to take away others free will?" if you believe he did then finally ask yourself "how is me taking away others free will make me like Jesus?" Lastly CRT is taught in Graduate Level School, Law School, it is NOT taught in College, High School, Junior High, or Elementary. It is not a system of government rather a study of how government works.
Notice how most comments are being posted by people who obviously didn't watch the video.
Can blind people be racist?
He is talking around the topic and keeps talking about feminism. The American system and structure are racism realistically. The American middle class was built in a racist fashion. White people got housing loans. Black people were denied housing loans purely based on the color of their skin. The GI bill could’ve somewhat bridged the gap in racial/ethnic disparities and white fragility failed it.
22:31 glad someone allowed poc to take the pulpit. Wouldnt know what to do without the white fathers blessing
You should actually read some of the articles for yourself and interact with the ideas instead of letting other people “describe” CRT for you. You can find CRT articles on line
This dude is painfully uninformed when it comes to CRT and other theories.
Beliver here...What are these guys credentials? Do they have references for the relationship between Marxism and CRT?
I totally agree. I believe he is refering to a tangential opinion presented by Marx to support his class theories in Marxism, but I don't believe the moderm concept of CRT was interested in Marx's views on class divergence.
Is this a far right channel or unbias? Thanks
Very informative
Glad you think so!
It’s a direct attack on the Image of God! Galatians 3:28
Communism helps 🤗
Great episode. 👍
The definition of CRT given here is so off-base it's laughable.
But it's no surprise a white conservative channel would describe like this. I'm trying to understand why conservatives hate CRT so much. This does explain a lot of that hatred, though.
Racism is illegal. Get audio/video recorded and a good lawyer. The “settlement” is the best way to deal with racism.
Y’all are wrong about the Bible and it’s point of view of race relations
I too love the communist manifesto
After all that he doesn’t explain what the theory is? To claim the society is systematically racist is simple.
Saying how , a little harder……….. I would say the fear of being sued has helped control people’s behavior. I encourage everyone to keep a camera in you pocket. It might be a big payday. Can you think of a better way to make money than to take it away from a racist.
It appears, the theory has identified a problem but has not provided any solutions.
All we can do is help make education viable for the serious student. Everything else , like discrimination in the work place is already illegal . All I’m saying is society should offer opportunity , it’s up to the individual to take advantage of those opportunities.
Completely incomprehensible
YT people…
What animal in nature that god made, are not racist ??
Critical chasing ghosts theory.
That's right brother! LETS GO BRANDON
Seems this is even explained with some kind of trick involved, it's easy if you explan onthe terms to educate not influence toward a opinion. This guy isn't straight. How about this we all have heard history now let's tell individual stories, let opinions be made by thought process, history with a twist of truth. I would want to know more stories of people of color or immigrants from. Other countries. The past is lesson on mistakes not need to be repeated, can't change what is kept secret.
Can’t change what is kept secret. True indeed. Don’t know why people are so fearful of studying our mistakes.
I would not use the term racism, I would use the Biblical term of self-righteousness. In other words if someone says what do I think about racism I should respond do you mean self-righteousness?
Racism
@@applefarm6126 Thank you for your response, and I look forward to the potential for a productive conversation regarding your thoughts and mine. I think I might have responded with a question instead of a possibly wrong answer or right. I would think that gaining understanding of what the other is actually thinking instead of using potentially faulty criteria to surmise another's thoughts should be more useful. In other words when a theory/assumption/conjecture/imagination is made unquestionable then I would say that is consistent to dogmatism. So, the question to you what are your thoughts on my response to your comment?
Nonsence. Crt is not about "overthowing" anything. Its about looking at our system critically so we can evolve our system.
Please add Scripture to all your arguments.
Gal3:28
@@bewise2297, amen! Agree.
As soon as Marx was brought up, you knew this was a biased talk...haha!
Critical theory is based on Marxist social philosophy. Critical race theory posits that systems of merit (the meritocracy) are inherently born out of white supremacy and that racism is normative rather than aberrational. This all surrounds like classic Marxist narratives of superstructure and substructure. This is what critical theory is about. No one is hiding it’s Marxist. The founders of critical race theory and BLM were Marxist. All critical theories were founded by Marxist. You might say “CTR is just historical facts” but that’s only from a Marxist paradigm.
@@mariog1490 You have it backwards and are using Marx as a dog whistle for for bigots. Marx is irrelevant in this. All humans are wary of those who are not like them. When there is a majority of one group, there is a natural tendency to treat the minority as inferior. This natural tendency causes unproductive conflict. Encouraging it is contrary to the teachings of Jesus.
@@Larry000 tendency means aberrational. CRT does not say racism is a tendency. It says it’s central and ordinary. Again, you can search this up. It’s not a secret critical theory is Marxist. There’s no rabbit in the hat here. If you don’t know social philosophy then don’t talk about it. Substructure and superstructure is a social philosophy theory. Racism is the substructure and the superstructure is everything else in society: institutions, meritocracies, politics, psychology, etc.Again, the founders of critical race theory were Marxist. And pretty much all CRT intellectuals are Marxist. This isn’t a conspiracy. They openly say this. There are many quotes from CRT professors that capitalism is inherently racist.
@@Larry000 I notice ideological liberals say CRT is true. I don’t think you understand the baggage of saying racism is systematic. CRT is actually anti-liberal. CRT isn’t the Democrats. CRT is a social philosophy. This is all really complex and people are now just casually saying systemic racism is true and it’s just history. This claim operates in a set of paradigms and the fact that you’re here watching this video using Jesus to justify CRT shows your lack of knowledge on CRT. Before you make a claim, you should always understand the baggage associated with it.