World’s First Thorium Molten Salt Experiment in over 45 Years
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- Опубліковано 16 сер 2017
- Europe have begun the world’s first thorium molten salt reactor experiment in over 45 years. With this, Europe has entered the Thorium Energy race!
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Finally. A dim glimmer of hope.
Very interesting :) . Many people criticize thorium fuel cycle , as if the current nuclear energy production has no disadvantages.. pff . I am convinced that molten salt reactors are the future of our energy supply . thanks for sharing this video . suscribed . :)
Very neat! I've been following this for some years. I'm glad they are at least experimenting. Thumbs up for you for the nice report, and all good wishes!
Good news everyone!
Tested? Fully operational unit should work now...
A teeny tiny step in the right direction
Jonathan Schattke why small? Who else is offering a credible pathway? Every journey starts with a 'small' step!
Because irradiation of Thorium salts in an operating reactor is an experiment which I could literally finish the paperwork for in a day.
Jonathan Schattke sure. But obviously paper work must be tested in real conditions. Not even the Chinese have that capability.
Isn't India currently building Thorium reactors?
fromkentucky India is building a Th to U233 fast breeder reactor since the are short on fissile material to start their Th fuel plan
Finally!
Well. That was full of information,
This is great.
Great to finally see. After all these years since oak ridge and we are finally getting into a position where we may see something implemented. It's timing really. Like so many things in our lives. Take coffee pods for example. Not a new product. First time they were launched they flopped. And now? They are a hit. Everyone has a coffee pod machine. It was timing. The timing was right. Let's hope timing is finally right for thorium. With coal being phased out due to pollution energy affordability is such a hot topic.
China started an Apollo Mission scale effort on this several years ago, Kurt Sorenson mentioned it in his videos.
Some have said over 1,000 nuclear scientists are working on it there.
Is this with a liquid core or a solid?
I LOVE the CLEAN ENERGY BRAINIACS😘
If thorium reactor becomes successful, India will be ultra rich. India has the largest deposits of thorium in the world.
Not the largest but sure in top 5.
@@pradeepkachari4648 the largest.
@@pradeepkachari4648 more than 50% of world reserve
Thorium time is now. Time for a change.
Now we are talking! Who's next to join??
India is already doing this. Also US, China, Japan etc.
India's program:
1) AHWR (Advanced Heavy Water Reactor) with solid fuel
2) IMSBR (Indian Molten Salt Breeder Reactor) with liquid fuel
3) Accelerator driven system
AHWR design is ready for deployment and construction may start anytime soon. It will be a 300 MWe reactor.
IMSBR development has been initiated.
Accelerator driven reactor is a joint project of India (BARC) and USA (Fermilab).
There is already a running experimental U-233/Th reactor called 'KAMINI' (30 KW). There is also a Plutonium-239 burning FBR (Fast Breeder Reactor) that can generate U-233 from Thorium blanket to be used in Th-based reactor as the next stage.
can't believe the US is no longer leading research in this area.
India is also trying the same.
@women are devastating creatures We are doing both.
1) AHWR (Advanced Heavy Water Reactor) with solid fuel
2) IMSBR (Indian Molten Salt Breeder Reactor) with liquid fuel
AHWR design is ready for deployment and construction may start anytime soon.
IMSBR development has been initiated.
By the way, there is already a running experimental U-233/Th reactor called 'KAMINI'.
yes India has lots of Thorium
@@tirthachakrabarti5912 and this neutronsources.org/neutron-centres/africa-asia-and-oceania/kamini.html
No info in this video just a statement
Thorium rhymes with Dorian. :)
who is NRG
China has a head start on research.
Not even China has the capabilities to perform these tests. That's what makes them so important!
China is actually willing to go there and fund the technology. Not only will they continue to be the world's producer of rare earths(even though we have a greater supply here) but they will patent any developments in thorium tech while we sit here with our thumbs up our respective asses. Thanks again Standard Oil.
@@easzq8
more like thanks to paranoid Leftists who hate anything "nuclear"
Where in Europe?
Netherlands at a place called NRG
Thorium Energy Excellent, thank you. Was trying to find more news on it
You have the article here: www.thoriumenergyworld.com/news/finally-worlds-first-tmsr-experiment-in-over-40-years-started
They are just making themselves count in this field to block it!
Only politics to slow down the real Th reactors...
So, it's been 2 years. How's it going?
Thorium is the answer...
Clickbait - padded advertising - nil feedback on the experiment. Pointless.
Mike, not sure I understand you. Join us at ThEC18 and you will meet the persons behind the experiment and have a chance to visit the test reactor www.thoriumenergyworld.com/conference.html
Frontrunner my ass, China is way ahead on this.
Why Thorium ?
We got a HUGE stockpile of nuclear waste that could be transformed to Plutonium and burned after.
That way we could clean up the mess we made earlier.
Thorium requires a neutron source like high level waste to produce energy- it is a catalyst for breaking down "nuclear waste" and recovering the energy.
Nay, that is not the plan. They want to start the reaction sure, and this will need tiny amounts of "old" fuel. But after that they intend on keeping it up with Thorium, leaving all the Uranium and Plutnium as waste forever.
It is two different problems. One, globally scalable CO2 and pollution free energy and two, solving the old nuclear waste. The by far biggest problem the world is facing of the two is energy (not nuclear waste). That is what we are focused on. There are many reasons for thorium to become the next energy standard, globally!
Im fairly certain that an array of well designed fusors could suffice as the neutron source, and we can completely divorce the future of energy from the problem of the waste of the past. I say we just bury ot all in California, there haven't been any signs of intelligent life there in decades so it's not like we're hurting anything.
The solution to the waste is to use Fast Reactors alongside MSRs. The Fast Reactors can break down all that nasty leftover waste while providing the enriched startup fuel the MSRs need.
Also, MSRs will run quite happily on waste Uranium. There is no reason they have to use Thorium. There are real benefits to using Throium, but it's not a requirement.
Bump
This isn't exactly true. China has been building these reactors for testing successful runs so they can mass produce them. They made a deal with Westinghouse to use the patents that have been on the shelf collecting dust since the 60's.
jomossino79 sure it is true. Not even China has done these type of tests. China hosted our conference www.thoriumenergyworld.com/thec12-shanghai.html
And they are in our report www.thoriumenergyworld.com/china.html
Howmuch throium energy is more efficient than uranium.how it is safe to u use in reactors to produce electricity.
Conventional fast breeder reactors are able to tap into about 3% of the energy in the fuel. Thorium can tap in 99% of that 97% left.
It is also extremely safe as it can easily be made to operate under passive safety systems- and because it cleans up "nuclear waste".
basically, its dirtier .. in terms of the type of radionuclides produced. and because thorium is so abundant it means we can produce so much more waist. And we still don't know what to do with any of the persistent waist of this magnitude .. that's smart
www.theguardian.com/environment/2011/jun/23/thorium-nuclear-uranium
Read the article you are refering too and who says: It produces less radioactive waste and more power
@@japrogramer Thorium is much cleaner.
Big problems with this I thought?
India already has Thorium reactors up and working :P google it.. so technically Europe would be second one to do so..not the world's first.
India is not burning Thorium in commercial scale yet. Our 3-stage program has Thorium-based reactor in 3rd stage. 2nd stage development is completed where Thorium blanket generates U-233 as fissile material to be used in 3rd stage. 3rd stage development is going on. AHWR will be the first step in 3rd stage realization. There is a running small scale experimental Thorium reactor though, called 'KAMINI'.
@@tirthachakrabarti5912 scale doesn't matter it will work or not that matters.
If india successful it will be then it can easily scaled up for commercial use.
Me
we years behind. wheres the goverment invovation, investment, ininotives . whats the wait, worry, no reason other than they are not paying enough attention to whats going on, has been discovered after years of being ignored. this is mand kind only hope, a;ll out futures rely on this being up and running before we have a permaent eco melt down
The video does little to address the real issues with molten salt Thorium reactor. The experimental reactor is presumably Halden (that has been closed down after a recent accident) or Kjeller reactor in Oslo that is a standard solid fuel rod fission reactor of low power for research purposes. Seems like it is a small scale experiment here. A full scale 200 MW molten salt Thorium reactor would require a huge investment to development, and many believe, because the military establish is not interested because such a Thorium reactor is not a good source of Plutonium 239 for nuclear bombs, that the will to develop such reactors and address the very real issues of concurrent reprocessing needed alongside such a reactor (note: glossed over in the video completely), that the molten salt Thorium reactor will never become a commercial reality. The fact is kWh for kWh, renewables are lower risk and lower cost than a nuclear reactor. Even molten salt Thorium reactors can be highly hazardous with 700 oC molten salt emitting hard Gamma radiation in operation. Heaven help maintenance people is a high-power 200 MW Thorium reactor were to experience a serious leak when in operation (for example due to component failure caused by molten salt Thorium being highly corrosive). Dr Sorensen asserts that molten salt Thorium is not reactive because of tight ionic bonding, then why are materials like Hastelloy-N required for the reactor vessel. Someone is not telling the truth.
Noice
That voice over though. Really cheesy. And for "News" I'd expect to actually get some information and not just repeating the title multiple times.
WHY ~ are all the photographs of PWR's ? Why are you showing an Containment Dome ? (Molten Salt reactors don't need them as they work at atmospheric pressures !?) Why are you showing a water pool ? WHY is this called the 'World's first Thorium Molten Salt Experiment in years' when the Chinese, Japanese and Indians have recent programs that are well under way ? This presentation is just wishful thinking. One might conclude that this video is nothing more than an 'intention' by the EU to steal more money for research.
Thorium molten salt reactors will still require containment vessels as additional precaution. Nothing in the nuclear industry can be presumes 100% safe. If there is a breach in the vessel, even if it isn't under pressure, it will still leak radiation that needs to be contained.