@@lunar9342 exactly, that's why I said no, mouse attack. Cause that person said it as a correction. If it was just informative, like you I wouldn't respond to their comment.
I love how in SSBB, Dedede never really trusted the other baddies and made up a contingency plan to reanimate the statued brawlers if things went south. King Dedede might not be the nicest character, but he isn’t really a villain.
from what I understand its less he didnt trust the other baddies but unlike bowser he wasn't fooled by master hands wierd commands, but bowser and DDD are fiercly loyal to master hand. DDD figured out something quickly was up with their leader while bowser didn't. Bowser was angry at DDD for being a traitor to the master hand likely, DDD literally shutting him up and showing him the downed hand is what made bowser realize what ddd already knew
Dedede invaded the Halberd to sneak into Tabuu’s plan to see what he is up to, he was informed of the off waves and made revive badges that revive trophied fighters
Dedede's more of a solo guy. He'll only bring other people, like Meta Knight, into his plan if its necessary, and he has his loyal army of Waddle Dees at his disposal to do more of the leg work. If anything, Dedede deserves to be titled as a king! He's always willing to do what he thinks is best for his people, even willing to sacrifice himself if it is for the greater good.
@@RelentlessSketchStudios I was more talking about the subspace embassy version of him. He was one of many rulers in the land, though one of the smartest which his brooches proved, being turned into a trophy would be an issue, and he had to do it in secret. Which is why he was so caught off guard by bowser's ambush, he thought he was in the clear.
Dedede might get possessed a lot in the games, but he'd never let someone else control him if he gets a say. He's too independent for that. Unfortunately, Mind Control doesn't leave much room for free will, lol
Why would Dedede protect a single Waddle Dee from the beast pack? Because you can’t be mean to his Waddle Dees! Only he can be mean to his Waddle Dees!
I like how dedede and meta knight have been a huge part of the Kirby series for a very long time and are vital to the series, and Bandana Dee is just there, and is just as important
I swear, Wario was such a comedic character in Subspace Emissary while also being a villain. It's wholesome to see King Dedede tackle hug Kirby at first sight, the penguin was so overjoyed to see the pink puffball again.
- Elfilin tells us that Meta Knight protects Waddle Dee Town while Kirby is out. - At the start of Amazing Mirror, it's told that Meta Knight flew to the Mirror World to protect it. - The entirety of Kirby's Return to Dream Land. - Dededetour and Meta Knightmare Returns. - Heroes in Another Dimension. (And Star Allies in general if you bring them along) - Ending of Robobot you can see the shadow of Meta Knight flying away, implying he safely returned Kirby to Popstar.
Don't forget that in Forgotten Land Dedede literally sacrifices himself for a Waddle Dee. Obviously he doesn't die though, he is a main character after all.
@@YourFriendlyShapeShifterFriend Yeah, show is its own canon. Pretty much every side mode is noncanon as well, save for a few like Heroes in Another Dimension.
Dedede is badass in Triple Deluxe and Forgotten Land. In Triple Deluxe, he saves Kirby from getting squeezed to death by Sectonia's vines by -clobbering- smashing him out of the vines, then throws Kirby at the Miracle Seed Taranza throws at him. In Forgotten Land, right before the Forgo Dedede fight, he's even seen trying to fight the evil force controlling him, showing that he's had enough of being easily possessed all the time. After the fight, when one Waddle trips, Dedede saves him from the Beast Pack by throwing in him the elevator (even though he had literally enough time to just grab him and rush to the elevator), then does a last stand against them.
About King Dedede tossing that Waddle Dee, IMO it was actually justified, since Kirby was visibly struggling to keep the elevator door from closing plus he probably did that to save time and hold off the pack for much longer.
@@harrymg8458 A decision that ended up saving Dedede's life according to the Fridge page on TVTropes for Forgotten Land because when the Beast Pack did show up, Elfilin's evil half proceeded to assimilate the Pack's members for an Advancing Wall of Doom second round (round 1 was )
I know, IMO, DeDeDe saw Kirby's immense appetite and assumed that Kirby was going to eat all the food, leaving Dreamland to starve. Therefore, he took desperate action and gathered all the food, just to give it to everyone else later. In my eyes, Kirby's Dream Land is not DeDeDe being a villain, but a simple misunderstanding.
Well, if you change points of view to DeDeDe's side, he just wanted to save his own kingdom. The only thing wrong about the situation is DeDeDe assuming.
10:16 I love how Meta Knight helps by lending his halberd... only for it to break in a dramatic scene. I mean, look at him, you can even see the face of "don't worry, by the 8th time the blow won't affect you"
The Halberd's been critically damaged what, thrice now in Kirby canon? Kirby sunk it in Super Star/Ultra, and it got hit pretty hard twice in Planet Robobot.
To me Forgotten Land is best. Not only for the cinematic setup, but one also thinks DeDeDe might not survive because of the full atmosphere of the game (granted its brief at best when you remember literally everything Kirby has put this man through)
Glad you included Meta Knight tossing Kirby the Invincibility candy, it's a small moment that says a lot. Shows that he (and Dedede as well) were fully fleshed from the very beginning.
I always knew that Meta Knight gave Kirby a lollipop in Kirby's Adventure, but now I'm realizing just how awesome that is from a game design standpoint. You have this character who you (at this point) have no clue about, and he introduces a brand new mechanic by throwing the candy at you and just LEAVING. And later in the game, you FIGHT HIM! So mysterious.
For all the people who are confused as to why dedede is considered a villain, in the old spin off games (even if they might not be canon) in dream course dedede steals all the stars out of the sky, and in super star stacker dedede shoots Mr star out of the sky for a "prank", even in more recent spin offs like battle royale dedede continually cheats at his own rigged competition even to go as far as taking kirby back stage to heat him with a giant robot. Over all dedede has had a reception arc and it even says in his guest star description that he wants to clean up his image, but dedede was always intended to be a greedy lazy selfish king, but dedede has been doing self improvement ever since adventure.
@@Irn0x in kirby fighters deluxe it says "this is his FINAL shot at revenge" but then kirby fighters to happened so who even knows if this grudge will ever end.
@@nuibaba280 well planet in robobot Susie says he has a long standing grudge against kirby which sounds like all the way up to robobot he still had a grudge against kirby.
@@TheRealSuperKirby That was a mistranslation by Nintendo of America. The original script actually just says he has a strong rivalry. You could argue that's the same thing but I doubt anyone would say your friendly rivals from Pokemon have a strong grudge against you or that Knuckles has a grudge against Sonic.
King dedede in anime: I nEeD a MoNsTeR tO cLoBbAh ThAt KiRbEy King dedede in game: me and Kirby put a side to our rivalry Meta knight in both versions: tbh, we were never evil but Kirby's mentors
Low key started crying at the last one when I first played Forgotten Land, It's such a good moment for his character, I know it's a Kirby game so he would survive, but I low key was sad that he might have been gone
King Dedede and Meta Knight are not villains, not anymore. King Dedede was genuinely evil in Dream Land and Revenge of the King, but after his defeat in Revenge of the King, he realized he was never going to beat Kirby. He became an Anti-Hero starting with Kirby 64 and is now a friend to Kirby, although the two still have a friendly rivalry. And outside of trying to take over Dream Land in Meta Knight's Revenge, Meta Knight has firmly been an Anti-Hero, who only fights Kirby to train him and always gives him a fair chance by giving him a sword. The one time he didn't give Kirby a sword in Squeak Squad was because he had to make sure Kirby didn't open the chest that contained Dark Nebula. While they were evil in some early games, King Dedede and Meta Knight have been Anti-Heroes (Sometimes with less of an emphasis on the Anti part) and friends of Kirby who are firmly on the side ever since Kirby 64 and Amazing Mirror respectively.
At this point, it’s genuinely stupid to call these guys villains when you see their actions. Which is extra sad, because Sakurai still considers them as such
Meta knight and King Dedede being “good” guys was so nice. Dedede did steal Luigi and the others, but hey he redeemed himself by punting Bowser in the nose (always loved that cutscene), and it was cool seeing Meta Knight be very honorable.
I look at DeDeDe like Bowser now. He's got villainous moments because he's competitive af, but knows when to get his stuff together and help Kirby deal with the bigger Cosmic Horror
I know Brawl's showcase was the big moments near the end of the game but let's not forget the time Meta Knight saved Lucas and Red from falling into the space bomb.
Incase you didnt know, theres a whole subplot of subspace emissary where dedede was aware of the plans of ganondorf, wario, bowser & masterhand, and he plotted against them by capturing heroes, planting his medals on them so they can revive inside subspace to save the others If dedede hadnt done this, EVERYONE would have been turned into trophies & tabuu wouldve won
Honestly the story of subspace emissary was soo biased for the Kirby characters with them pretty much hard carrying everyone else it might as well be a Kirby game and I love it.
Fun Fact: The Meta Knight's dropping loliloop invencible candy animation, is only present on the original NES version. It was removed from the GBA remake. Go to 0:03, for the prove.
@@RF-Ataraxia Probably not...🤔 If you look closely at Kirby's eyes at 2:31, there a few pixels placed differently on kirby's face, than when shown up on regular standing animation. This makes look like as if kirby was slightly angry for not letting put the Star Rod on the Fountain of Dreams.
idk how people can even say dedede and meta knight are even anti heroes at this point dedede stole the food but that was one time meta knight aimed to take over dreamland but that was also one time they do sometimes take the role as antagonists in spinoffs but antagonist=/=villain
I always knew they were not villain maybe just small frenemies (for meta knight a friendly rival but this knight would do anything to help kirby and dreamland in need) But the dedede scene in Forgoted Land makes me always cry why? Cause even if sometimes this king think for himself or mess with food sometimes he always take care of all the waddle dees like his own children...
Meta Knight I've always seen as Kirby's strict mentor, usually those boss fights against him being to test Kirby's might and see if the pink puff is ready to face whatever comes next.
@@FuryMcpurey nah huh kirby hold himself against meta do i need to remind ya if meta knight really wants it he could defeat kirby any time? He literally is the ultimate knight in the kirby lore where he went defeat the ultimate knight and made the wish to be the most powerful knight to the super nova and it came to be
@@SanonixFastTime His wish was to fight the ultimate warrior, not become one. He did win the fight, but that's hardly canon. The canon is Marx using all of Nova's power to become the strongest. Followed by him losing to Kirby.
honestly, King Dedede trophizing the fighters was pretty much just like him breaking up the Star rod The first time you’d think it was his villian antics where he beats up and claims the others like trophies (like what wario did once) and puts a thing on them to auto ressurect themselves, who know what triggers them.
Honestly I don't really consider Dedede a villain. He's almost always on Kirby's side and nowadays he really only fights Kirby if he's possessed by something. He's just kind of a dick at worst.
This is why I think Dark Matter should be in Smash, Dedede and Meta knight aren't villains anymore, we need a true representation of evil of the Kirby franchise in Smash, and honestly O think Dark Matter would make the most sense
@@bogymanthedark but Dark Matter (the original one) also has a sword man form, so it could be interesting to have a moveset that uses both his swordsman form and his eyeball form.
Dedede in 1992: Hehehehe steal food fuck you Kirbeh Dedede in 1993: My people may no longer dream, but I had to choose between that and the lives of billions.
Kinda underrated but my favorite is planet robobot and meta knights moment. He gave up his own ship and when shit goes south he pulls the lever to launch kirby at the boss showing he has full faith in kirby. And then he goes 1 step further and makes sure kirby gets home safe. Perfection
Meta knight going that far might be a bit “extreme” but he at least had a pretty good motive (Ok maybe not exactly a GOOD motive but at least he didn’t do it for the sake of being evil)
To quote Alan Grant in Jurassic Park III, some of the worst things imaginable have been done with the best intentions. Dream Land's lifestyle was laidback or "lazy" because Kirby was always there to save the day. War doesn't make people healthy. It never did, and it never will.
You forgot to put Dedede and Meta Knight's moments in Squeak Squad, being that Dedede after getting beaten up by Kirby for "stealing his cake" he throws Kirby at the Squeak Squads so he chases them and stop them from opening Dark Nebula's chest and later on, when Meta Knight appears and stops Kirby from opening the chest after defeating Daroach
[KATFL Spoilers] I think Forgotten Land is where Dedede was at his most heroic. He didn't hesitate to stay behind to throw a Waddle Dee into the elevator while Kirby tried to hold the door open, and fight off the Beast Pack as best as he can. This is one of many moments that make me proud to say that, while he was selfish and whatnot, Dedede was never a "villain", and he really does care about his subject as well as Planet Popstar and even Kirby! Long story short, he truly deserves his title of King. I also think Amazing Mirror was where Meta Knight was at his most heroic too.
Absolutely, and that action shows how much he trusts Kirby to take care of things. Like yes, with triple deluxe and return to Dreamland, he did help and that was true, don't get me wrong. But this wasn't the same as Magolor and Sectonia. Dedede knew these beings would have to be held off to keep the waddle dees safe and escape, and he basically said "yeah I trust you to keep them safe"
I find Dedede to be more of a rival, not a villian. From what he does, he doesn't seem to actually mean harm to Kirby, hell, he even attempts to help at times.
King Dedede is not purely evil by himself, he's evil because he's mischievous and Meta Knight is purely hate laziness and oppose tardiness, but willing to fight because of challenges.
i like how dedede was like a mafia boss in the first games, just being a villain, but in the newer games, kirby just breaks into his castle and beats him to disappearance (death)
in your face the fans believing that dedede and meta knight was always mean to kirby,and other KRBAY anime fan said still think dedede wants to kill kirby and buy monsters from nighmare!
Even anime dedede never wanted to kill kirby, he says that nothing interesting happened in Dreamland before kirby arrived, him fighting kirby is just his sick form of entertainment. He probably doesn't even realize how dangerous the things he uses are.
@@IvanFranco120 yup. although im probably getting r/woooosh'd here, after you beat Lab Discovera, you can see dedede relaxing near the Coliseum. edit: before anybody says "YOU SPOILED IT I HAVENT PLAYED IT YET", if the video has spoilers, then im allowed to talk about the spoilers.
God I love it. King dedede is the only guy to free Bowser, kick his ass, free him again and bitch slap him when he acts up to put him in his place. Mario could only dream of doing that
I'm gonna be really disappointed if a kirby movie comes out and makes ddd or mk into actual villains. If they did make one then I think 64 would make the best plot honestly
I think Shadow and Meta Knight kinda fall in the same category. Anti Heroes. Sure they'll go against the good guys, but if there's a greater evil than they'll switch sides to make sure things don't really go south Or put simply: Villains, with Standards
Decided to also include Brawl.
0:00 - Kirby's Adventure (Meta Knight) (NES)
0:20 - Kirby's Adventure (King Dedede) (NES)
1:57 - Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards (King Dedede) (N64)
2:17 - Kirby: Nightmare in Dream Land (King Dedede) (GBA)
3:56 - Kirby and the Amazing Mirror (Meta Knight) (GBA)
4:15 - Honorable Mention - Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Meta Knight) (Wii)
6:15 - Honorable Mention - Super Smash Bros. Brawl (King Dedede) (Wii)
8:52 - Kirby's Epic Yarn / Kirby's Extra Epic Yarn (Meta Knight) (Wii / 3DS)
9:24 - Kirby Triple Deluxe (King Dedede) (3DS)
10:08 - Kirby Planet Robobot (Meta Knight) (3DS)
11:30 - Kirby and the Forgotten Land (King Dedede) (Switch)
Dedede also helped in mouse attack
@@AsecasJavi Squeak Squad
@@digidrveKJ mouse attack
@@AsecasJavi you are both correct. Remember, the names are commonly localized differently in some places.
At least where I am, It's Squeak Squad.
@@lunar9342 exactly, that's why I said no, mouse attack. Cause that person said it as a correction. If it was just informative, like you I wouldn't respond to their comment.
I love how in SSBB, Dedede never really trusted the other baddies and made up a contingency plan to reanimate the statued brawlers if things went south. King Dedede might not be the nicest character, but he isn’t really a villain.
from what I understand its less he didnt trust the other baddies but unlike bowser he wasn't fooled by master hands wierd commands, but bowser and DDD are fiercly loyal to master hand. DDD figured out something quickly was up with their leader while bowser didn't. Bowser was angry at DDD for being a traitor to the master hand likely, DDD literally shutting him up and showing him the downed hand is what made bowser realize what ddd already knew
Dedede invaded the Halberd to sneak into Tabuu’s plan to see what he is up to, he was informed of the off waves and made revive badges that revive trophied fighters
Dedede's more of a solo guy. He'll only bring other people, like Meta Knight, into his plan if its necessary, and he has his loyal army of Waddle Dees at his disposal to do more of the leg work.
If anything, Dedede deserves to be titled as a king! He's always willing to do what he thinks is best for his people, even willing to sacrifice himself if it is for the greater good.
@@RelentlessSketchStudios I was more talking about the subspace embassy version of him. He was one of many rulers in the land, though one of the smartest which his brooches proved, being turned into a trophy would be an issue, and he had to do it in secret. Which is why he was so caught off guard by bowser's ambush, he thought he was in the clear.
Dedede might get possessed a lot in the games, but he'd never let someone else control him if he gets a say. He's too independent for that. Unfortunately, Mind Control doesn't leave much room for free will, lol
I love how Dedede was just like “i will dededefend” in Kirby and the forgotten land
He royal
He love waddle dees
But most imponatly
He procet his waddle dees
one of them will defend, rest of them will hide
"We're waddle dees, sire, we're meant to be expendable!"
"Not to me."
Why would Dedede protect a single Waddle Dee from the beast pack?
Because you can’t be mean to his Waddle Dees! Only he can be mean to his Waddle Dees!
Most emotional sacrifice yet.
I like how dedede and meta knight have been a huge part of the Kirby series for a very long time and are vital to the series, and Bandana Dee is just there, and is just as important
We stand the penguin, edgy blueberry, and wanya with pointy stick it this house.
Bandana is the underdog lol
And with Kirby they all form: "THE DREAMLAND TEAM!" (i love them 💓)
Apple Juice song intensifies
@@moon4236 not really because he is the fourth line of defense of popstar
9:41 I absolutely love how Kirby sounds like he says “King” like he is trying to say dedede’s name
Oh my god it does doesn't it!
Tbh it sounds like “Ew” to me
Then he gets smacked with a hammer
Oh yeah, it kinda does...
@@Mike14264MIKEY SPOTTED
I swear, Wario was such a comedic character in Subspace Emissary while also being a villain. It's wholesome to see King Dedede tackle hug Kirby at first sight, the penguin was so overjoyed to see the pink puffball again.
- Elfilin tells us that Meta Knight protects Waddle Dee Town while Kirby is out.
- At the start of Amazing Mirror, it's told that Meta Knight flew to the Mirror World to protect it.
- The entirety of Kirby's Return to Dream Land.
- Dededetour and Meta Knightmare Returns.
- Heroes in Another Dimension. (And Star Allies in general if you bring them along)
- Ending of Robobot you can see the shadow of Meta Knight flying away, implying he safely returned Kirby to Popstar.
And the fact of meta knight just helping kirby constantly in the show "right back at ya"
Don't forget that in Forgotten Land Dedede literally sacrifices himself for a Waddle Dee. Obviously he doesn't die though, he is a main character after all.
@@Arceus-dicklick im pretty sure that show is not cannon
@@YourFriendlyShapeShifterFriend Yeah, show is its own canon. Pretty much every side mode is noncanon as well, save for a few like Heroes in Another Dimension.
@@YourFriendlyShapeShifterFriend the show itself isn't canon but many things from it were MADE canon, best example is Meta Knight's Sword's name
The fact that Kirby in the forgotten land is like "WAIT NO DEDEDE" breaks my little heart.
And also that little hug in smash
Dedede is badass in Triple Deluxe and Forgotten Land. In Triple Deluxe, he saves Kirby from getting squeezed to death by Sectonia's vines by -clobbering- smashing him out of the vines, then throws Kirby at the Miracle Seed Taranza throws at him. In Forgotten Land, right before the Forgo Dedede fight, he's even seen trying to fight the evil force controlling him, showing that he's had enough of being easily possessed all the time. After the fight, when one Waddle trips, Dedede saves him from the Beast Pack by throwing in him the elevator (even though he had literally enough time to just grab him and rush to the elevator), then does a last stand against them.
About King Dedede tossing that Waddle Dee, IMO it was actually justified, since Kirby was visibly struggling to keep the elevator door from closing plus he probably did that to save time and hold off the pack for much longer.
@@giorgioantonaci7097 yeah i think the beast pack would have shown up before kirby beat if dedede didnt hold em off
@@harrymg8458 A decision that ended up saving Dedede's life according to the Fridge page on TVTropes for Forgotten Land because when the Beast Pack did show up, Elfilin's evil half proceeded to assimilate the Pack's members for an Advancing Wall of Doom second round (round 1 was )
@@corbinselanne7990 I think the "evil half" thing WAS the spoiler...
@@Eldoofus maybe
The way he gently picks up waddle dee ;-; that’s a true king
These two will never be villains to me. I’ll always see them as misunderstood heroes.
I know, IMO, DeDeDe saw Kirby's immense appetite and assumed that Kirby was going to eat all the food, leaving Dreamland to starve. Therefore, he took desperate action and gathered all the food, just to give it to everyone else later. In my eyes, Kirby's Dream Land is not DeDeDe being a villain, but a simple misunderstanding.
@@AntasmaTheBatKing but then kirby gave everyone the food back so i would say that was a still a dumb call to make on his part
Well, if you change points of view to DeDeDe's side, he just wanted to save his own kingdom. The only thing wrong about the situation is DeDeDe assuming.
@@AntasmaTheBatKing nah he was just being a dick there. Even in the spring breeze opening he's seen gobbling up the food he stole
@@AntasmaTheBatKing no you literally seen him eating the food in the intro cutscene
Brawl
Dedede revived: *immediately starts saving everyone*
Ganon revived: *sets aside timeless fight for the triforce to stop the bigger threat*
Bowser revived: *attack everything in sight*
Bowser revived again: *attack everything in sight*
Based Bowser
@@xanvoir7693 💀
Well in Bowser's defense he was PISSED at what Ganondorf did to him
Wario: Be a troll
Let's face it, Subspace would've been hell had it not been for the Kirby Krew
hell, we wouldnt be able to beat subspace if dedede didnt put the brooches on luigi and ness, un-trophyfying them (is that what you should call it?)
@@LetsPlayWoomy8835 You mean his brooches?
@@kovidarthehedgehog4066 yeah i didnt know what they were called thanks
If only Sonic had been there on time. Oh wait
@@BooDestroyer
He was too slow.
10:16 I love how Meta Knight helps by lending his halberd... only for it to break in a dramatic scene. I mean, look at him, you can even see the face of "don't worry, by the 8th time the blow won't affect you"
"I get a free sundae on the 10th time"
@@mr.mothly THIS RIGHT HERE OH MY GOD
The Halberd's been critically damaged what, thrice now in Kirby canon? Kirby sunk it in Super Star/Ultra, and it got hit pretty hard twice in Planet Robobot.
@@anerdwithaswitch9686 Meta prob has a really good mechanic, so it's fine.
Eh, It's been through worse. It was fully repaired by the ending cutscene
To me Forgotten Land is best. Not only for the cinematic setup, but one also thinks DeDeDe might not survive because of the full atmosphere of the game (granted its brief at best when you remember literally everything Kirby has put this man through)
Same here. I think Forgotten Land is my favorite Kirby game. *Period.*
Even better, while we missed dedede being able to help kirby in lab discovera, this act of sacrifice saved his life from fecto forgo
Glad you included Meta Knight tossing Kirby the Invincibility candy, it's a small moment that says a lot. Shows that he (and Dedede as well) were fully fleshed from the very beginning.
7:54 this will never stop being adorable
Especially 8:02
HE WAS SO HAPPY
WIGGLIN HIS FEET AND EVERYTHING
IT JUST MADE ME AWWWWWWD AWWWWWWWWWW
I love how DDD just led Kirby away like a parent holding their kids hand
I always knew that Meta Knight gave Kirby a lollipop in Kirby's Adventure, but now I'm realizing just how awesome that is from a game design standpoint.
You have this character who you (at this point) have no clue about, and he introduces a brand new mechanic by throwing the candy at you and just LEAVING. And later in the game, you FIGHT HIM! So mysterious.
For all the people who are confused as to why dedede is considered a villain, in the old spin off games (even if they might not be canon) in dream course dedede steals all the stars out of the sky, and in super star stacker dedede shoots Mr star out of the sky for a "prank", even in more recent spin offs like battle royale dedede continually cheats at his own rigged competition even to go as far as taking kirby back stage to heat him with a giant robot.
Over all dedede has had a reception arc and it even says in his guest star description that he wants to clean up his image, but dedede was always intended to be a greedy lazy selfish king, but dedede has been doing self improvement ever since adventure.
@@Irn0x in kirby fighters deluxe it says "this is his FINAL shot at revenge" but then kirby fighters to happened so who even knows if this grudge will ever end.
@@TheRealSuperKirby Fighters isn't canon.
@@nuibaba280 well planet in robobot Susie says he has a long standing grudge against kirby which sounds like all the way up to robobot he still had a grudge against kirby.
@@TheRealSuperKirby That was a mistranslation by Nintendo of America. The original script actually just says he has a strong rivalry. You could argue that's the same thing but I doubt anyone would say your friendly rivals from Pokemon have a strong grudge against you or that Knuckles has a grudge against Sonic.
@@buttbagzzz I never knew that
King dedede in anime: I nEeD a MoNsTeR tO cLoBbAh ThAt KiRbEy
King dedede in game: me and Kirby put a side to our rivalry
Meta knight in both versions: tbh, we were never evil but Kirby's mentors
Low key started crying at the last one when I first played Forgotten Land, It's such a good moment for his character, I know it's a Kirby game so he would survive, but I low key was sad that he might have been gone
Dedede has a much better character development than Dr. Eggman
I cried on the inside when that happened, but like a friend of mine (on the hell we call Twitter) said: He is called "King" for a reason.
7:07, I love how DeDeDe just flicks his Bowser's nose like "shut up you pathetic wannabe"
In Forgotten Land, Meta Knight was also trying to protect Waddle Dee Town according to Elfin.
He also beat Gorimondo at least 30 times, and at least two of them must've been no-hit runs.
They even carved thank you, Meta Knight onto the wall in his honor.
Dedede lowkey has dad energy sometimes
King Dedede and Meta Knight are not villains, not anymore. King Dedede was genuinely evil in Dream Land and Revenge of the King, but after his defeat in Revenge of the King, he realized he was never going to beat Kirby. He became an Anti-Hero starting with Kirby 64 and is now a friend to Kirby, although the two still have a friendly rivalry. And outside of trying to take over Dream Land in Meta Knight's Revenge, Meta Knight has firmly been an Anti-Hero, who only fights Kirby to train him and always gives him a fair chance by giving him a sword. The one time he didn't give Kirby a sword in Squeak Squad was because he had to make sure Kirby didn't open the chest that contained Dark Nebula. While they were evil in some early games, King Dedede and Meta Knight have been Anti-Heroes (Sometimes with less of an emphasis on the Anti part) and friends of Kirby who are firmly on the side ever since Kirby 64 and Amazing Mirror respectively.
At this point, it’s genuinely stupid to call these guys villains when you see their actions. Which is extra sad, because Sakurai still considers them as such
They're rivals, not so much as they haye each other, it's just they will always have their fights
@@Elfilinfan And most of their fights are competitive.
@@Elfilinfan Rival for sure with Dedede, Meta Knight’s more of an active mentor
@@xx_squirtle8621 he's a mixture of a rival and a mentor
@@magma1675 talking smash, which tries to keep those images
Meta knight and King Dedede being “good” guys was so nice. Dedede did steal Luigi and the others, but hey he redeemed himself by punting Bowser in the nose (always loved that cutscene), and it was cool seeing Meta Knight be very honorable.
I look at DeDeDe like Bowser now. He's got villainous moments because he's competitive af, but knows when to get his stuff together and help Kirby deal with the bigger Cosmic Horror
I know Brawl's showcase was the big moments near the end of the game but let's not forget the time Meta Knight saved Lucas and Red from falling into the space bomb.
7:05 Say what you will, Dedede was just gangsta here.
Incase you didnt know, theres a whole subplot of subspace emissary where dedede was aware of the plans of ganondorf, wario, bowser & masterhand, and he plotted against them by capturing heroes, planting his medals on them so they can revive inside subspace to save the others
If dedede hadnt done this, EVERYONE would have been turned into trophies & tabuu wouldve won
Honestly the story of subspace emissary was soo biased for the Kirby characters with them pretty much hard carrying everyone else it might as well be a Kirby game and I love it.
And in Smash Ultimate with Kirby escaping?! The Kirby bias is real
And I *LOVE IT*
@@pikaqte5418 I mean Sakurai is Kirby's Father
Wait, how come Palutena got obliterated by Galeem if she's literally the godess of light?
@@founderofnewporkcity Galeem turned on friendly fire
@@ayo.2022lmao
We all know that Dedede and Kirby had the most important roles in Subspace Emissary
Meta Knight too. After all, he was trying to get his halberd back and led the attack on the subspace gunship.
The laughable one-scene wonder that was the Subspace Gunship. So important.
yes
I knew it; Dedede DOES care about the waddle Dees and I absolutely love that. And ofc all the times Meta Knight helps you out in some games
King triple dee risks his life to save a random waddle dee
Chad moment
Fun Fact: The Meta Knight's dropping loliloop invencible candy animation, is only present on the original NES version. It was removed from the GBA remake.
Go to 0:03, for the prove.
...it feels like it should have been in the gba version too.
Perhaps they couldn't include it for somw reason?
There was a part of the Butter Building they couldn't replicate in the GBA version.
Perhaps it was to save some space? Because they also removed Kirby's angry face when Dedede's clinging onto him in the Fountain of Dreams
@@RF-Ataraxia Probably not...🤔
If you look closely at Kirby's eyes at 2:31, there a few pixels placed differently on kirby's face, than when shown up on regular standing animation. This makes look like as if kirby was slightly angry for not letting put the Star Rod on the Fountain of Dreams.
@@IvanFranco120 Ain't that how he normally looks? Use his animation from the beginning of the cutscene for reference
The king isn't the hero we deserved.
He's the hero we neeeded
We need a game about King Dedede as the protagonist.
100%!
@@022107 Yeah, I think it's about time King Dedede takes the spotlight for once.
Nedede
I had forgotten how fun the Subspace Emissary scenes were. World of Light literally pales in comparison to the raw awesomeness of Brawl's story mode.
idk how people can even say dedede and meta knight are even anti heroes at this point
dedede stole the food but that was one time
meta knight aimed to take over dreamland but that was also one time
they do sometimes take the role as antagonists in spinoffs but antagonist=/=villain
Very true
hell meta knights attempt at invading dream land had some good intentions behind it.
This is facts
I always knew they were not villain maybe just small frenemies (for meta knight a friendly rival but this knight would do anything to help kirby and dreamland in need)
But the dedede scene in Forgoted Land makes me always cry why? Cause even if sometimes this king think for himself or mess with food sometimes he always take care of all the waddle dees like his own children...
Meta Knight I've always seen as Kirby's strict mentor, usually those boss fights against him being to test Kirby's might and see if the pink puff is ready to face whatever comes next.
@@FuryMcpurey nah huh kirby hold himself against meta do i need to remind ya if meta knight really wants it he could defeat kirby any time? He literally is the ultimate knight in the kirby lore where he went defeat the ultimate knight and made the wish to be the most powerful knight to the super nova and it came to be
@@SanonixFastTime I believe he was one of the 4 aeon heroes who helped beat Void Termina the first time I believe ?
@@SanonixFastTime His wish was to fight the ultimate warrior, not become one. He did win the fight, but that's hardly canon. The canon is Marx using all of Nova's power to become the strongest. Followed by him losing to Kirby.
Dedede has now became a true super star warriah and a hero to us all.
No matter what happens in Subspace Emissary,
*Kirby will be there to protec*
honestly, King Dedede trophizing the fighters was pretty much just like him breaking up the Star rod
The first time you’d think it was his villian antics where he beats up and claims the others like trophies (like what wario did once) and puts a thing on them to auto ressurect themselves, who know what triggers them.
Meta Knight: Take this shit, you'll need it.
Dedede: Get out of the way, I gotta do this shit.
Also meta knight: "today I'm gonna be teaching a baby how to use a sword"
Honestly I don't really consider Dedede a villain. He's almost always on Kirby's side and nowadays he really only fights Kirby if he's possessed by something. He's just kind of a dick at worst.
Facts
10:24 UNLEASH THE KIRBY
10:36
At this point we can affirm that sometimes they are the heros of the story.
This is why I think Dark Matter should be in Smash, Dedede and Meta knight aren't villains anymore, we need a true representation of evil of the Kirby franchise in Smash, and honestly O think Dark Matter would make the most sense
To be fair most kirby villains are just a floating eyeball sphere things, not much could be done with them.
@@bogymanthedark Even the ones that aren't normally tend to have true forms that are
@@bogymanthedark but Dark Matter (the original one) also has a sword man form, so it could be interesting to have a moveset that uses both his swordsman form and his eyeball form.
marx and dark matter should be in the next smash game if there is a next smash game i mean
@@bogymanthedark elfilis could easily be a smash bros Kirby rep he's all limbs and pokemon like
Imma be honest.
When dedede chose to hold off the beast pack when saving that waddle dee I thought he freaking died
Same, honestly!
I'm still so glad he survived in the end. :)
Dedede in 1992: Hehehehe steal food fuck you Kirbeh
Dedede in 1993: My people may no longer dream, but I had to choose between that and the lives of billions.
Kinda underrated but my favorite is planet robobot and meta knights moment. He gave up his own ship and when shit goes south he pulls the lever to launch kirby at the boss showing he has full faith in kirby. And then he goes 1 step further and makes sure kirby gets home safe. Perfection
meta knight was never really a villain even in revenge of meta knight he started war to make people healthy
Meta knight going that far might be a bit “extreme” but he at least had a pretty good motive
(Ok maybe not exactly a GOOD motive but at least he didn’t do it for the sake of being evil)
@@MagoDraws yeah the war was Just a Little bit uncasry but not to mush (its too much
To quote Alan Grant in Jurassic Park III, some of the worst things imaginable have been done with the best intentions. Dream Land's lifestyle was laidback or "lazy" because Kirby was always there to save the day. War doesn't make people healthy. It never did, and it never will.
It was basically meta knight screaming you get to sleep when I say you can sleep
You forgot to put Dedede and Meta Knight's moments in Squeak Squad, being that Dedede after getting beaten up by Kirby for "stealing his cake" he throws Kirby at the Squeak Squads so he chases them and stop them from opening Dark Nebula's chest and later on, when Meta Knight appears and stops Kirby from opening the chest after defeating Daroach
It’s got to the point that Dedede is more hero than villain
Bowser really had a bone to pick with Ganondorf after he shot him in the back with the dark gun.
This is why i love both meta knight and dedede. they are Kirby's true friends. Also when they fight i feel like they are not fighting, but training.
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I think Forgotten Land is where Dedede was at his most heroic.
He didn't hesitate to stay behind to throw a Waddle Dee into the elevator while Kirby tried to hold the door open, and fight off the Beast Pack as best as he can.
This is one of many moments that make me proud to say that, while he was selfish and whatnot, Dedede was never a "villain", and he really does care about his subject as well as Planet Popstar and even Kirby! Long story short, he truly deserves his title of King.
I also think Amazing Mirror was where Meta Knight was at his most heroic too.
Absolutely, and that action shows how much he trusts Kirby to take care of things.
Like yes, with triple deluxe and return to Dreamland, he did help and that was true, don't get me wrong.
But this wasn't the same as Magolor and Sectonia.
Dedede knew these beings would have to be held off to keep the waddle dees safe and escape, and he basically said "yeah I trust you to keep them safe"
How dedede was like "shut the f*ck up i'm more stronger than u" to Bowser 😂
After seeing all this, no wonder they become best friends in Kirby fighters 2!
I find Dedede to be more of a rival, not a villian. From what he does, he doesn't seem to actually mean harm to Kirby, hell, he even attempts to help at times.
Triple D Dededeserves to get a golden medal for protecting his Waddle Dee children :3
7:04
I can not laugh or atleast smile everytime i see this cutscene xd
Dedede literally said "stfu and controll yourself"
Man Meta Knight cannot catch a break with the Halberd getting shot down so much.
7:54 MADE ME AWWWWD AWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
Nightmare in Dreamland was my CHILDHOOD! Loved that game, I didn't realize it was basically a remake of Kirby's Adventure!
12:03 that's a real king
8:01
Kirby: “I only been here for a few minutes what’s going on???”
King Dedede is such a father figure to Kirby and you can't lie about it.
7:55
Me and my brother in a nutshell
King Dedede is not purely evil by himself, he's evil because he's mischievous and Meta Knight is purely hate laziness and oppose tardiness, but willing to fight because of challenges.
8:01 so freaking cute 😭
i like how dedede was like a mafia boss in the first games, just being a villain, but in the newer games, kirby just breaks into his castle and beats him to disappearance (death)
Because he's possessed or brainwashed.
11:29 the perfect transition doesn't exi-
Shut up
in your face the fans believing that dedede and meta knight was always mean to kirby,and other KRBAY anime fan said still think dedede wants to kill kirby and buy monsters from nighmare!
Well they never mean to Kirby to Kirby (exectdd anime dee dee dee he mean to kirby
Even anime dedede never wanted to kill kirby, he says that nothing interesting happened in Dreamland before kirby arrived, him fighting kirby is just his sick form of entertainment. He probably doesn't even realize how dangerous the things he uses are.
3:30 How cute, Kirby looking towards looks like a cracker jack 🥰🫓
What about squeak squad, meta knight tried to stop kirby from releasing the dark star
On what cutscene?
@@IvanFranco120 the one after the ice world
Also dedede tried to stop the squeaks in the cutscene after he’s boss fight
This just reminded me that Subspace Emissary was awesome, and I don't care if you didn't like Brawl.
Okay, no need for that.
"I thought that you were my greatest enemy, when all along, you were my best friend."
7:07 Dedede said 👌✋
More like 👊🤚
7:08 dam what a savage king dedee is
bro that last one almost made me die of sadness😭😭💀💀
dont worry, he's alive
He's really still *ALIVE*!?
@@IvanFranco120 yup. although im probably getting r/woooosh'd here, after you beat Lab Discovera, you can see dedede relaxing near the Coliseum.
edit: before anybody says "YOU SPOILED IT I HAVENT PLAYED IT YET", if the video has spoilers, then im allowed to talk about the spoilers.
poor king dedede, he sacrificed himself to save waddle dee and on top of that he stayed to fight
Finally, the greatest compilation of all time.
I know so little about Kirby and the lore of smash that this all looks like a fucking fever dream
God I love it. King dedede is the only guy to free Bowser, kick his ass, free him again and bitch slap him when he acts up to put him in his place. Mario could only dream of doing that
Kinda wish you could play as Dedede in forgotten land to beat back the animal horde
8:21-8:25
Is nobody going to comment on Ganondorf's "Fine, I'll help, but only because I was tricked!" attitude?!
You rlly can’t call Dedede or Meta Knight villains anymore
I'm gonna be really disappointed if a kirby movie comes out and makes ddd or mk into actual villains. If they did make one then I think 64 would make the best plot honestly
I think Shadow and Meta Knight kinda fall in the same category. Anti Heroes. Sure they'll go against the good guys, but if there's a greater evil than they'll switch sides to make sure things don't really go south
Or put simply: Villains, with Standards
9:55 yeet the fucking baby
I cried a lot when Dedede sacrificed himself in Forgotten Land-
I love how gently dedede picks up the waddle de
I feel like Nintendo made up their mind who is the better villain between Bowser and Ganondorf
I mean the only times dedede was evil was either he was possessed or it was because of his jealousy for Kirby
What a good penguin, it may deserve a fish. - Any player who is a nature carer.
Meta Knight is more of a rival than a villain and Dedede is more like an anti-hero
ah. good ole Nightmare in Dreamland. that was my first ever Kirby Game. good times
Were right behind you majesty your a hero to us all
Really heroic indeed but let's talk about DDD's Nazi salute at 8:41
Hey you try pointing without any fingers
It’s hard to point with mittens without it looking off
Hail dededetler