An S2000 is more balanced than a Supra and can out-corner an RX-7 which is one of the most renowned japanese cars for handling to ever hit the market. A supra will not keep pace with an S2K in the corners, sorry.
I respect all cars but I dunno why people always hating on the honda's, they just mad they get beat by some high compression 4 cylinders that aren't even turbo, haters make us famous soo y'all keep hating.
I understand your point Teh styLz but even if the honda isn't riced people still find a way to hate on them and imma person I may not like other car brands but I do show and give the respect that are supposed to be given
I totally agree on your point and you do have a strong one, I mean I'm not saying hondas are the best but I mean damm they eat the competition alive and they're the most when u keep them naturally aspirated, that's the way of the hondas
its called launch control used in rally cars the popping sound is gas being burnt in the exhaust causing the turbo to "spool" (turning the compressor wheel) which reduces the time the turbo needs to build up boost and therefor giving the engine more power at the starts and also helping with well launching :)
It's for launching a car. It's kinda like a rev limiter but it only engages when the vehicle speed sensor reads 0 mph. The limiter that the 2 step is set to is the optimal launching point of the car meaning for perfect launches every time.
+Ek _Coupe maybe in ricer land, but in the real world no Honda beats a street Supra I know this first hand as I own 2 Supra's one of which is pushing 1171rwhp not including the 300 shot which I don't use for street use (no point). I have NEVER had a Honda even come close to keeping pace with me, it doesn't happen.
LiveinAK How am I a liar? Please explain, me owning 2 Supra's? You're kidding right? Check my videos at all? That was BEFORE I sent my car's to Titan Motorsports the company that built the world record 5 second 1/4 mile Supra... Need more proof moron? Here ya go. If you meant Civics beating Supra's show me one FWD Civic in the 6's in the 1/4 mile.... don't worry I'll wait, there is one Civic in the 6's and it was converted to RWD and has a 6 cyl NSX engine. There are ZERO Honda's to EVER run a 5 second 1/4 mile and that is a fact.... Comparing a Honda to a Supra is always a losing battle for the Honda PERIOD. www.titanmotorsports.com/chcocr.html www.titanmotorsports.com/charcon95sup.html Now shut up, the grown ups with real car's are talking.
1) Show up with big-block V8. Ford, Chrysler, GM, any will do. 2) Shake the ground on idle for a while. 3) Listen to Japanese cars trying to impress a bunch of kids. 4) Tap the throttle once. 5) Watch everyone run away in fear. 6) World domination.
Your English is excellent, honestly. Anyway, that's interesting to hear about Supras being used for other purposes elsewhere, I actually didn't know that. As for the Viper having bad handling, that's really down to how you define your terms. The Viper has always been a difficult car to drive hard, and unforgiving if you mess up (kind of like an '80s Porsche). But, the car is extremely capable, and if driven right, very fast in the turns. The ACR version still has a couple lap records.
thank you for stereotyping an entire car manufacturer. Your opinion is very helpful to everyone and you definitely seem to know what you're talking about.
They both operate in the same fashion, except anti-lag requires a more complex setup. 2-step is supposed to be used only momentarily. NEITHER are friendly to the exhaust side of an engine. The fact that people are starting to use it as some sort of crowd pleaser holding it for long periods of time or repeating it in quick succession does in fact hurt the car.
Of course. But Supras do have some inherent flaws for drag racing, primarily the independent rear suspension. If you watch a Supra take off, they usually squat really hard off the line, where most really-fast muscle cars either leave level or even raise the back end on launch. That's their trailing-arm suspension actually pressing the tires into the pavement for traction. The Supra can't get that much anti-squat, so tends toward lower 60' times and higher traps for a given ET.
yea and like i said to the other guy that is just one aspect of a car!! but does that make it completely better than another car? im sure that Evo is a ruff drive and is loud as hell and uncomfortable around the city but the veyron is smooth and can still do over 250mph. you have to focus on more than just one aspect of a car to say its better than another. also do you think they would make so many diff cars if people only wanted one thing out of their cars?
god the s2000 styling is so much sexier than the supra, and if anyone strongly disagree's you are either not wearing your glasses or jumped on the bandwagon on facebook automotive pages
by itself the f20 is a much better engine. better sound, mpg, horspeower, emissions, and it's lighter weight. the 2jz is better tuned because its displacement is larger and has more cylinders so I give these engines a tigh. remember the s2k's engine loves to be tuned also and has been seen running 7's. the honda can do more with a 2 litre than toyota can do with a 3 litre. but I love both even and want to eventually get both.
The way 2 steps work, it doesnt damage the engine in the same way "redlining" it does. When you redline, and hit the limiter, it cuts the fuel, and leaves the spark going, leaning the A/F ratio out, causing pinning and all sorts of other bad shit -step, cuts the spark, and causes unburnt fuel to flow through the system, and explode in the exhaust-yes, its no good for the cats, but I doubt these guys even run cats. It keeps the A/F ratio nice, and limits engine damage
Trust me i know the power that it is capable of when tastefully modified, and honda is great also at making the best n/a 4 cylinders, but the 2jz is probably one of the easier motors to snatch mad power out of, not to mention that smooth sound beats the raspy sound of the 4 banger anyday..
how do u know? i have seen a lot drag s2k setups, which looked pretty powerful to me. also i think, that this is not about power, it's about sound and the s2k did sound better to me. if it were about power, they would race or something like that...
that moment when people in 2011 say "Honda's run the streets" Haha you wish they ran the streets. From a fellow individual in the year 2016 I am now telling you they don't run the streets😂
+SI RICKO The black guy said "Once again Honda's run the streets" he only said that cause Honda's are the only car they can offered after all the payments of child support
+SI RICKO I'm just fucking around ahah Hondas are crazy if I say so my self if I could I would built a Honda before anything else there crazy cars they make good all motor power and when you turbo them you can make 300 400 and do it all day
No its definately not just as easy to achieve power compared to a 2JZGTE. You'll spend well over $7k+ just to make 500whp in a S2K (if done right). Take a stock TT Supra, full exhaust, FMIC, and spend $200-300 a HKS EVC boost controller and you can make 400-500whp which is pretty common for TT MK4s. And I also havent seen any stock F20s making 800hp with stock internals but thats also pretty common amongst 2JZGTEs.
NSX is N/A engine, you do know that right? There is a difference between 3.2L stock N/A engine that produces 290hp*, and 3.0L stock TURBO engine that produces 320hp.
The very first Vipers, the R/T10's were pretty sketchy. They were made to be a modern version of the Shelby Cobra, so it was just a hot-rod that existed purely to look bad-ass and scare people. It did some of the old muscle car thing where it'd visibly twist when you hit the power. With the next generation, they started trying to make it perform more like a supercar, and it was improved a lot. That said, while Vipers can handle well, most people still use them in the Viper-Supra drag war.
Thats like saying lets see who wins on the track..... I love both cars and are one day gonna own both. But they both are good for different types of racing...
I don't see a Datsun. What I see is a Toyota Supra and a Honda S2000. Also people click on this video to see cars not females. Though I do have to agree with you that what they are doing is very damaging to the engine but their car they can do whatever they want to it. While I do prefer the growl of a unmolested V8 this video is pretty sweet too.
S2000 is like a go kart. Super light with a decent engine platform. The supra is quite heavier though but if built right it will make the S2000 shit bricks on Straight line speed
of course not but I think he meant it as an overall statement, like you said tho, only him and his friends would know. But I have to admit, the S2000's 2 step was far more aggressive then the supra's. Yeah bro I agree with you too, I don't get what there is to hate about honda's or seriously powerful straight six turbos... of course I know that hondas are FWD but still, they offer a different driving style.
S2000 was farther away so it didn't sound as loud and it's not like the supra's 2 step would get better, it stays the same. Many people do not understand how similar the s2ks F series motor is to a 2JZ...In terms of strength from factory they are almost identical. One is turbo'd stock, one isn't....but when you turbo the S it becomes an unimaginable beast. This S looks like it has duals but if it had a 3inch single it would've spit flames several feet, An NA s2k will spit flames with a 2 step.
That may be in USA; but in EU and Asia you can see lots of supra in standard races (by that I mean not in Drift or Drag, but theyre used in them too as you can imagine). You just have to balance the upgrades you make (if you put 100cv more, you need better suspensions and stability). And Corvettes may be, but Vipers I'm sorry that I cant believe it, I saw a bunch of them and they are horrible (on handling). PS: Sorry if you cant understand something, but english is not my main language.
S2k really put that supra to shame
Hell yeah they need r34 vs supra thou
+Too Soon Junior For having 2 less booms yea it did. Wasn't expecting that
Nah the 2 step was jumbled together sounds like trash Supra is way better
JDCinc supra sounded like ass
N Baldo ur face sound like ass
almost puked when i saw those nasty rims on the supra
lol
Same
+Nikki Naydenov same here
same
+Nikki Naydenov so rice
Why the hell would you put wheels like that on a Supra
Bruh
Lol hey Evan
Ruined the Supra with those ridiculous rims.
Nocean Lets just be thankful he didn't put some 'fast and furious' style bodykit on
***** This is true. Let's all be thankful.
Nocean yp
I was looking at that to
+Nocean they aint thaaat much ugly... i mean yes, for a supra they are, but not ridiculous, just a little bit ugly
The Supra is one of my top favorite cars, but in this competition i have to give props to the s2k. IMO i think the s2000 won.
I have respect for Supras but that S2K got it
S2000 Sounds a lot of better but in a race it doesh't stand a chance. Supra still rule the roads.
In a straight.
Supra would have no chance in the corners though.
TomoHawKzZ
oh yes it would, supra is also a good handling car.
Fernando V lol no it's not. By japanese standards it's a boat...
An S2000 is more balanced than a Supra and can out-corner an RX-7 which is one of the most renowned japanese cars for handling to ever hit the market.
A supra will not keep pace with an S2K in the corners, sorry.
TomoHawKzZ *ahem* subaru
For me s2000 won..
Arvin Tresreyes Because this Supra sounded like shit, even a stock one with just changed exhaust sounds better
Arvin Tresreyes me too
Fuck
i came into this thinking, "oh a s2k? vs a supra??? in a 2 step battle? the supra will eat up the s2k." i was wrong. haha
cXr Media 😂😂😂😂
cXr Media same
S2000 - pure monster.
I think s2k won
2jz is definitely the best fucking sounding engine ever. I love RB's but damn I want a 2jz
where you from i never hear anyone talk about RB's on American vids
trexeater101 New Zealand bro haha, everyone one has fucking RB's down here
.. i know i'm from NZ hahahaha
no silvia, skyline,gtr,g35, or any other nissan could step on a 2jz js haha
I with you I hoping there's still one out there wan I get the money together
That supra was all bite and no bark :)
+Wubby penguin lol
Sounds like me and this one dude in the stall next to me in the Chipotle bathroom
***** you win this comment thread
***** LMAOOOO
Wow that s2000 sounds S II K!!!!
s2k always on point lol. JOHNNY TRAN SON
even though the 2k won nobody can hate on a big single barrel supra spitting flames
s2000 owner here....really want a supra!
marky mark trust bro
Unless it has ugly ass wheels
Haaa this is honda dooo dont mess
Honda always run the streets. Keep hating
I respect all cars but I dunno why people always hating on the honda's, they just mad they get beat by some high compression 4 cylinders that aren't even turbo, haters make us famous soo y'all keep hating.
carter958 people hate on Hondas cause the cars are usually riced out. only Honda exceptions are the s2k and the nsx
I understand your point Teh styLz but even if the honda isn't riced people still find a way to hate on them and imma person I may not like other car brands but I do show and give the respect that are supposed to be given
I totally agree on your point and you do have a strong one, I mean I'm not saying hondas are the best but I mean damm they eat the competition alive and they're the most when u keep them naturally aspirated, that's the way of the hondas
Honda's don't run shit.
its called launch control used in rally cars the popping sound is gas being burnt in the exhaust causing the turbo to "spool" (turning the compressor wheel) which reduces the time the turbo needs to build up boost and therefor giving the engine more power at the starts and also helping with well launching :)
S2k all day has that one.
It's for launching a car. It's kinda like a rev limiter but it only engages when the vehicle speed sensor reads 0 mph. The limiter that the 2 step is set to is the optimal launching point of the car meaning for perfect launches every time.
Did he just say Honda's run the streets lol
+Ek _Coupe maybe in ricer land, but in the real world no Honda beats a street Supra I know this first hand as I own 2 Supra's one of which is pushing 1171rwhp not including the 300 shot which I don't use for street use (no point). I have NEVER had a Honda even come close to keeping pace with me, it doesn't happen.
+Charles Consagra get a fucking grip on reality. I hate liars.
LiveinAK
How am I a liar? Please explain, me owning 2 Supra's? You're kidding right? Check my videos at all? That was BEFORE I sent my car's to Titan Motorsports the company that built the world record 5 second 1/4 mile Supra... Need more proof moron? Here ya go. If you meant Civics beating Supra's show me one FWD Civic in the 6's in the 1/4 mile.... don't worry I'll wait, there is one Civic in the 6's and it was converted to RWD and has a 6 cyl NSX engine. There are ZERO Honda's to EVER run a 5 second 1/4 mile and that is a fact.... Comparing a Honda to a Supra is always a losing battle for the Honda PERIOD.
www.titanmotorsports.com/chcocr.html
www.titanmotorsports.com/charcon95sup.html
Now shut up, the grown ups with real car's are talking.
Your mom was on the end of my story
Charles Consagra did you put your heart and soul into that? so butthurt
1) Show up with big-block V8. Ford, Chrysler, GM, any will do.
2) Shake the ground on idle for a while.
3) Listen to Japanese cars trying to impress a bunch of kids.
4) Tap the throttle once.
5) Watch everyone run away in fear.
6) World domination.
The S2000 is just loud the supra actually sounds good.
dude,fuck yeah just cause your engine can scream dosent mean its sounds better but it was still louder fucking sk2!
2 of my fav cars. love them both equally
Is it just me, but the person talking sounds like peter griffin
Honda runs the street...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHa that was so funny i almost pissed my self
s2000 got it
s2k nnno!!!!
two righteous things have just been said. ID LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR NOT BEING THE ONLY CIVIL PERSON ON UA-cam 8)
This place has more rice than the rice fields in Asia
Someone doesnt know the definition of a ricer. What a dumbass
Such ignorant wowwwwwww
Bruhh do u know the meaning of rice ????
Autumn Stealth Race
Inspired
Cosmetic
Enhancements
These fart canons fall right into that category
Your English is excellent, honestly.
Anyway, that's interesting to hear about Supras being used for other purposes elsewhere, I actually didn't know that. As for the Viper having bad handling, that's really down to how you define your terms. The Viper has always been a difficult car to drive hard, and unforgiving if you mess up (kind of like an '80s Porsche). But, the car is extremely capable, and if driven right, very fast in the turns. The ACR version still has a couple lap records.
At the end of the day a Honda will still sound like a fart can weed wacker lol..
A Supra will always remain Legendary Classic
+LiveinAK Look folks.. another butt hurt honda fanboy!
Great Drums not really. I like all cars. You just need to hop off the bandwagon
And now me and the Mad Professor gotta replace the piston rings you fried.
Just saw the video on the s2000. Props to the owner, sick ride.
thank you for stereotyping an entire car manufacturer. Your opinion is very helpful to everyone and you definitely seem to know what you're talking about.
Because in the case of RWD cars such as these, they are completely necessary and functional.
Great S200 Sound, saludos desde España!
They both operate in the same fashion, except anti-lag requires a more complex setup. 2-step is supposed to be used only momentarily. NEITHER are friendly to the exhaust side of an engine.
The fact that people are starting to use it as some sort of crowd pleaser holding it for long periods of time or repeating it in quick succession does in fact hurt the car.
Supra: get out! 0:36
S2000: watch this: 0:38
"Hondas run the streets"
SMFH-_-
LOL. Just got the perfect comparison. Supra sounds like a .50 M2 Browning, while the S2000 sounds like a M240. :P
Lol, the supra was like, "yea you better GET THE F*** OUT OF HERE!"
there's a saying..."I shall fart in your general direction"
supra sounds like an old war veteran competing against desert storm
I'd just want to own both of these babies ! 😛
Of course. But Supras do have some inherent flaws for drag racing, primarily the independent rear suspension. If you watch a Supra take off, they usually squat really hard off the line, where most really-fast muscle cars either leave level or even raise the back end on launch. That's their trailing-arm suspension actually pressing the tires into the pavement for traction. The Supra can't get that much anti-squat, so tends toward lower 60' times and higher traps for a given ET.
Or even better is the Nissan GTR Alpha 12. That thing is a beast. 0-60 in 2.7 seconds on road tires on a normal roadway and 2.5 seconds with slicks
Whats wrong with the wheels?They look pretty good IMO.
if you could pick between a supra and a s2k, what color would your supra be?
I love the ass-to-ass setup haha that was good
For real... I literally laughed when he said "hondas run the streets"
Shots fired straight from the S2K. Literally
I think it's safe to say both are blowing smoke!
yea and like i said to the other guy that is just one aspect of a car!! but does that make it completely better than another car? im sure that Evo is a ruff drive and is loud as hell and uncomfortable around the city but the veyron is smooth and can still do over 250mph. you have to focus on more than just one aspect of a car to say its better than another. also do you think they would make so many diff cars if people only wanted one thing out of their cars?
By the looks and sound of that s2000, it really is a well built car.
Its actually not too effective to the motor if it is use properly and not frequent. 2 step is a launch control setting used at the track.
they kind of do though, They are EVERYWHERE. They aren't the quickest no but are easily the most popular.
The supra needs a new model, it was a beast and it had grip.. Just a perfect car to mod, cant go wrong.. especially now a days, get them for cheap.
god the s2000 styling is so much sexier than the supra, and if anyone strongly disagree's you are either not wearing your glasses or jumped on the bandwagon on facebook automotive pages
by itself the f20 is a much better engine. better sound, mpg, horspeower, emissions, and it's lighter weight. the 2jz is better tuned because its displacement is larger and has more cylinders so I give these engines a tigh. remember the s2k's engine loves to be tuned also and has been seen running 7's. the honda can do more with a 2 litre than toyota can do with a 3 litre. but I love both even and want to eventually get both.
best thing about them f20's though is the turbo and super capabilities
The way 2 steps work, it doesnt damage the engine in the same way "redlining" it does. When you redline, and hit the limiter, it cuts the fuel, and leaves the spark going, leaning the A/F ratio out, causing pinning and all sorts of other bad shit
-step, cuts the spark, and causes unburnt fuel to flow through the system, and explode in the exhaust-yes, its no good for the cats, but I doubt these guys even run cats. It keeps the A/F ratio nice, and limits engine damage
I have a na supra atm due to the laws in australia and i was thinking of saving up abit more and switching to a s2k any thoughts?
Man I wish I knew where this was.. That supra will be in the impound in no time... Would love to be at that auction
Holy shit don't mess with that S2k he's got 100 grand under the hood of that car!!!
This was basically a "lets see who has the shittiest sounding exhaust" competition? RACE, DAMMIT
should bring those cars to war, they would probably throw off the extremist of thinking they are under super heavy fire
Trust me i know the power that it is capable of when tastefully modified, and honda is great also at making the best n/a 4 cylinders, but the 2jz is probably one of the easier motors to snatch mad power out of, not to mention that smooth sound beats the raspy sound of the 4 banger anyday..
i wouldnt expect less from a navy "my shit doesnt stink" seal
how do u know? i have seen a lot drag s2k setups, which looked pretty powerful to me. also i think, that this is not about power, it's about sound and the s2k did sound better to me. if it were about power, they would race or something like that...
Can't we just love both cars?
Seriously, my 2 favorite cars :O
Those rims on that Supra look nasty
that moment when people in 2011 say "Honda's run the streets" Haha you wish they ran the streets. From a fellow individual in the year 2016 I am now telling you they don't run the streets😂
Bahahah u crazyy kid
+SI RICKO The black guy said "Once again Honda's run the streets" he only said that cause Honda's are the only car they can offered after all the payments of child support
Jayden U do know its more white people on child support then black right LMFAO ANd honda's dude only if you knew how bad ass hondas really are. =)
+SI RICKO I'm just fucking around ahah Hondas are crazy if I say so my self if I could I would built a Honda before anything else there crazy cars they make good all motor power and when you turbo them you can make 300 400 and do it all day
No its definately not just as easy to achieve power compared to a 2JZGTE. You'll spend well over $7k+ just to make 500whp in a S2K (if done right). Take a stock TT Supra, full exhaust, FMIC, and spend $200-300 a HKS EVC boost controller and you can make 400-500whp which is pretty common for TT MK4s. And I also havent seen any stock F20s making 800hp with stock internals but thats also pretty common amongst 2JZGTEs.
NSX is N/A engine, you do know that right? There is a difference between 3.2L stock N/A engine that produces 290hp*, and 3.0L stock TURBO engine that produces 320hp.
Does anyone know the video where the big guy gets the cigar blown away from his mouth? if so whats the title i need to ind it
That's quiet true, but it still beats them you listed and I don't think you can modify any of those.
How sweet!
My favorite Hondas since I can remember were the CRX and then later the S2000... anyway I'd rather build a GM, Dodge, or Ford car nowadays...
Hondas run the streets? Is he serious with that ? Lol 😂
The very first Vipers, the R/T10's were pretty sketchy. They were made to be a modern version of the Shelby Cobra, so it was just a hot-rod that existed purely to look bad-ass and scare people. It did some of the old muscle car thing where it'd visibly twist when you hit the power. With the next generation, they started trying to make it perform more like a supercar, and it was improved a lot.
That said, while Vipers can handle well, most people still use them in the Viper-Supra drag war.
As much as I fucking Hondas (with a passion), I have to say that S2K sounded pretty sick, looked decent, and ousted that Supra in that Step Off.
What happened to your 1966 GTO?
At the end of every 2 step competition, the turbo on each car should be checked to see which has the most damage to it.
Thats like saying lets see who wins on the track.....
I love both cars and are one day gonna own both. But they both are good for different types of racing...
i sat here this whole video waiting for a Beamer to come blow both these cars out the water
S2K may sound louder, but you won't be able to tell when the supra is ahead of it ;)
so i don't think vtec is the best but do u know any other company with anything like that
All I see are two cars having a conversation.
I'm a Honda fan boy lol. Only Hondas I'll own. Integral type R, s2k, Nsx, and the Ruckus 🐸☕️
+Zepolboy the only hondas id consider too haha
not honda beat , s660 , prelude ??
Preludes are actually pretty cool, my friend has an 89 and I love the style, just wish it was rear wheel drive
There is already a true Honda with a reliable and a strong engine, just like the 2JZ... It's called Honda NSX.
I don't see a Datsun. What I see is a Toyota Supra and a Honda S2000. Also people click on this video to see cars not females. Though I do have to agree with you that what they are doing is very damaging to the engine but their car they can do whatever they want to it. While I do prefer the growl of a unmolested V8 this video is pretty sweet too.
S2000 is like a go kart. Super light with a decent engine platform. The supra is quite heavier though but if built right it will make the S2000 shit bricks on Straight line speed
of course not but I think he meant it as an overall statement, like you said tho, only him and his friends would know. But I have to admit, the S2000's 2 step was far more aggressive then the supra's.
Yeah bro I agree with you too, I don't get what there is to hate about honda's or seriously powerful straight six turbos... of course I know that hondas are FWD but still, they offer a different driving style.
i just shit myself of laughter ahahahaha
S2000 was farther away so it didn't sound as loud and it's not like the supra's 2 step would get better, it stays the same. Many people do not understand how similar the s2ks F series motor is to a 2JZ...In terms of strength from factory they are almost identical. One is turbo'd stock, one isn't....but when you turbo the S it becomes an unimaginable beast. This S looks like it has duals but if it had a 3inch single it would've spit flames several feet, An NA s2k will spit flames with a 2 step.
LOL love how when the honda is pulling away everyone gets scared.
Dude sounds like Peter Griffin at the start...
That may be in USA; but in EU and Asia you can see lots of supra in standard races (by that I mean not in Drift or Drag, but theyre used in them too as you can imagine). You just have to balance the upgrades you make (if you put 100cv more, you need better suspensions and stability). And Corvettes may be, but Vipers I'm sorry that I cant believe it, I saw a bunch of them and they are horrible (on handling). PS: Sorry if you cant understand something, but english is not my main language.