I have total respect for you man. You remind me of my father, the one that passed along his work ethic. You're a hard working dude... Thank you again for the great videos. I can't even tell you the number of things I've learned from you.
I do not comment a lot but I do read some of them . I think that many people underestimate the commitment it takes to be a service mechanic . I speak for myself as well as you . Do people have an understanding of the investment ? A fully stacked service truck and !! a workshop . The special equipment to work on different brands .Diagnostic soft and hardware , Hand tools in all shapes and sizes . Air operated bottle jacks , Welders , high capacity air compressors ., stand alone and mobile , and the list goes on , torches ,tyre changers ect ect and in my case a lathe and a mill . People should show a bit more respect and think . We are the people who are not afraid to get our hands dirty and who are confident enough to invest in ourselves . Rain or shine , we will go and get it done . I do not feel a bit sorry for myself and i feel nothing for those who laugh about my dirty cold hands . Those braindead sheep have no clue . Keep up your good work .
Another point is that the buck stops with you, there is no hierarchy to help get you out of a hole. As a retired engineer and workshop manager I sometimes see things I'm not entirely comfortable with. Dealing with the field perspective changes that. The video where Warren goes up the mountain, removes a dozer engine, changes liners etc, shows the true measure of these guys.
yeah i weld used dumpster for a living , peepol makes jokes all the time that i'm being dirty , looking like a coal miner . i just awser them with a smile and say , monney dosent smell
Your knowledge and versatility never ceases to amaze me. Thanks for sharing Warren. Getting those tracks off is one thing, can't wait to see them going back on. Some job!
Looking to get into heavy equipment repair as well, thanks for being so instructional in your videos! Definitely a great guy and channel to learn off of!!
I enjoy all your videos, but really enjoy the ones containing any tracked vehicle content (rubber or steel) so this one was a beauty🍻 thanks for producing them!
Love you videos I been working on heavy equipment going on 24 years and I never stop learning when I first started there was older man that I worked under at the Cat dealership he showed me a bunch you always can learn from how one guy does something or your might know something he may not but love your videos
There is a sense of great personal satisfaction to be had in repairing something broken or worn out. At the end of the day, it's nice to review in your mind the tasks performed.
warren good to see you again great job great vid i was i n service field for 30 years im retired now and living the dream thx for sharing your job with us. God bless be safe out there.
Interesting to see how these tracks are removed, I suspect that the metal type tracks on dozers are much more simple to remove, even if heavier. Thank you for yet another interesting tutorial.
Its a nice, fairly straightforward job changing rubber tracks and undercarriage when it's dry and on a decent hardstanding. I enjoy doing it like that, most definitely not on a wet,muddy construction site in the freezing cold and pissing rain. Especially when its something like a mobile crusher or screener with metal tracks. Their super low ground clearance used to make it a terrible job to do in the middle of British winter. Consider yourself lucky out in the countryside without anyone annoying you every 5 minutes and no traffic jams wherever you go. I still enjoy watching you do stuff I've never done or worked on before. Its interesting. 👍👏
I can appreciate what your saying but I would like to add that Warren has many many times done this type of job in horrible conditions. As far as no traffic jams and annoying people, we choose to live in the country, some of us cannot stand people so we work longer and harder to live away from the mobs.
Warren, when we done those machines over here in aust we had a CAT needle valve on each cylinder so we could isolate each side if necessary also to fine tune the adjustment if needed, it also worked well if the hydraulics were a bit leaky all in all every thing went well, warren I love your vids and I have learnt a lot from you
Warren your youtube channel is growing so fast. Its all down to you and your awesome work ethic. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. Stay safe.
Like you custom idler removal tool. Sometimes referred to as a persuader, precision alignment tool, professional installation too, or a BDH. I used a similar one with shorter handle many times when installing gaskets in high pressure/high temp steam lines. Very flexible multi function device! Lol
So the fork lift broke a timing belt and bent a valve? All you need now is the rain to set in for a week. Doesn't matter a bit, nothing will stop your determination!!! Keep the videos coming!! You are my motivation!!!
Wow that's quite a project . Did not know you could retread those tracts. If there anything like a truck retread. That if cords were showing you could not retread them. Great video.
Now that's some work people wounder why this kind of work is so expensive. There you have it just watch. My back hurts and all I did was watch it. Have a good one Warren
Nice video. I see how someone can get in big trouble really fast when unbolting the front wheel. That would break a couple bones. Sure would like to see the new ones go on and how you do that.
Hey Boss, if while had ahold of the track on bottom in front. You pulled off, then slack off and put the hoist line center of the outside of track still hooked to the bottom of track and lifted it will roll the track back, clearing the lugs of the drive wheels (no baring etc) then reposition winch line to pull off completely.
I have said it before. I removed the tents and the air bags and chained up the bogie frames. I actually used the cylinder stops for safety reasons. But I also jacked the tractor up first. I supported it the very front and under the draw bar. I I did this in June and it is still waiting waiting for the tension cylinders to come back from Cat. They would no longer hold nitrogen.
Warren I don’t know if you cound Mount a snack block to the side of your service truck or not but seems like it would be helpful when pulling side ways. I don’t have a crane but use winch and snatch block it really is useful for me. I really look forward to your videos.
Are there shims between the main wheels to set the gap for the lugs? So do not pinch/wobble the lugs in the center of the wheels.? Like fan belts ride the pulley at the correct depth.
I just love equipment! I'm curious on what you do with the old tracks? I know in California everything has to be recycled in some way! Is there a company who picks up old rubber tracks for recycling?
Warren, you tie the cylinders together to detention them and you may leave them tied together when you tension the new ones that would mean they would have to be a match set. How much if any can that center pivot move, and if not? How would you tension the tracks the same. if you rip one would you have to replace both?
I may be wrong but, it also looks like the drive sprocket/hubs need to have new rubber on them as well. Is it possible to get wider "wheel" for the 75c now? Or is it stuck with current sizes? Cheers :)
I have never driven one of those machines but I'm curious is there a way to drive each track individually like an excavator? Or is it just like a dozer with 1 main diff and side brakes?
What’s the cost difference in putting tracks on or putting a whole set of regular tractor tires on seems like tracks would be way more expensive and a lot more work
If they are scrap could you not cut them across and then slide it out , or are they going to be reused somewhere ?? By the way i have NO knowledge at all on this subject but love watching, how you remember all this is amazing and on your own. Stay safe mate.
Auto on the video @ 15:21 want to low i could not understand what you were saying and i wear two hearing Aids, but i did enjoy it..see Ya, I rang the bell?
Dang you make that look easy. Is that owner going to replace all those wheels and the the seals on the axel. He's crazy if he doesn't. but it is more money for you if he doesn't. would be a shame to have to do the same work again though just to make it right. I would tell him no warranty if he doesn't
I am very curious to know what the labor time is for this job? Purely by the hour or do you charge a flat fee per track? In any event I see this and tell my self "Only 40 years ago would I tackle something this difficult." I'm 77 years old. I could no more do a job like this than fly.
Hello my guy , i have a 1997 85D , the track is loose and wanted to know how to tension it back, the track is slipping. Please can you show me how to do it. Thank you
Hearing about John Deer and Cat about the undercarriage and track wear, it makes me wonder if you couldn't use the wider rollers from a Deer on the Challenger if you wanted to have more even wear on the track
I'm just seeing this now, don't know how I missed it. This might be silly stupid but why couldn't you just run a saw through the top of the old belt and drive off the belt. Seems like it would save a ton of time.
The rubber on the outside doesn't really effect the track you can run the right to the metal and be fine its just another cushion layer for it even Asv will tell you dont worry about replacing the wheels run them and they have kinda the same set up and from what I noticed its true and why would the dealer lie and make less money than selling the wheels?
Sorry, this isn't a skid steer or mini excavator, you can't run metal on the rollers on the inside, I have changed probably 20 sets of tracks where the rollers aate clear through the cords and separated the track, you are comparing apples to oranges.
@@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353 guess they should of had Egar hetten then design those pieces of shit lol hes pretty much the best track designer out there you can read about him in messuems best track guy out there asv vts arctic cat Polaris and so on you name it he made it
Oh yeah john deere 764 speed dozer same set up and you don't need to replace the rubber rollers on them you can run them right on down and they run camso tracks on them ran them plenty and its in gravel all day long so either those challengers got a shit set up or or just guys beyond rough on equipment because something tells me gravel is a little bit more abrasive than mud or corn stalks same with those asv and asphalt as well and even rubber track pavers same thing you dont have to at all they get coated in asphalt and don't eat the track up maybe that's why they stopped making challengers must be junk except for rebranded agcos
If water and shit gets into those cables they are fucked in no time. I had one go on me the other week, small tear in the rubber, been like it for months, tracked 25 yards and the track ripped half its width. The strain on the other cords was so much that it let go after another 50 yards.
I have total respect for you man. You remind me of my father, the one that passed along his work ethic. You're a hard working dude... Thank you again for the great videos. I can't even tell you the number of things I've learned from you.
Your bones will have wore out long before there time Warren in that kind of work your 1 hard working dude respect 👍
I do not comment a lot but I do read some of them . I think that many people underestimate the commitment it takes to be a service mechanic . I speak for myself as well as you . Do people have an understanding of the investment ? A fully stacked service truck and !! a workshop . The special equipment to work on different brands .Diagnostic soft and hardware , Hand tools in all shapes and sizes . Air operated bottle jacks , Welders , high capacity air compressors ., stand alone and mobile , and the list goes on , torches ,tyre changers ect ect and in my case a lathe and a mill . People should show a bit more respect and think . We are the people who are not afraid to get our hands dirty and who are confident enough to invest in ourselves . Rain or shine , we will go and get it done . I do not feel a bit sorry for myself and i feel nothing for those who laugh about my dirty cold hands . Those braindead sheep have no clue . Keep up your good work .
And people bitch about filthy coveralls.
@@2nickles647 Slipped my mind 👍
Another point is that the buck stops with you, there is no hierarchy to help get you out of a hole. As a retired engineer and workshop manager I sometimes see things I'm not entirely comfortable with. Dealing with the field perspective changes that. The video where Warren goes up the mountain, removes a dozer engine, changes liners etc, shows the true measure of these guys.
Don't forget the ware and tear your body has to deal with to keep the world turning.
yeah i weld used dumpster for a living , peepol makes jokes all the time that i'm being dirty , looking like a coal miner . i just awser them with a smile and say , monney dosent smell
Your knowledge and versatility never ceases to amaze me. Thanks for sharing Warren. Getting those tracks off is one thing, can't wait to see them going back on. Some job!
Looking to get into heavy equipment repair as well, thanks for being so instructional in your videos! Definitely a great guy and channel to learn off of!!
Maybe Warren would be looking for a apprentice? He sure needs some help!
@@jimwesselman to far for me lmao, southern boy
I enjoy all your videos, but really enjoy the ones containing any tracked vehicle content (rubber or steel) so this one was a beauty🍻 thanks for producing them!
Love you videos I been working on heavy equipment going on 24 years and I never stop learning when I first started there was older man that I worked under at the Cat dealership he showed me a bunch you always can learn from how one guy does something or your might know something he may not but love your videos
Great video. The start of the video was awesome. The challenger sitting there and then it comes alive. Keep up the great video’s.
Great job I used to watch a man from Timmins Ontario maintaining n repairing my father's heavy equipment. This video is educational.
There is a sense of great personal satisfaction to be had in repairing something broken or worn out. At the end of the day, it's nice to review in your mind the tasks performed.
warren good to see you again great job great vid i was i n service field for 30 years im retired now and living the dream thx for sharing your job with us. God bless be safe out there.
A hard worker and enjoyable to watch. I am getting the tools you need sitting down here. I wish I could help.
Interesting to see how these tracks are removed, I suspect that the metal type tracks on dozers are much more simple to remove, even if heavier. Thank you for yet another interesting tutorial.
Its a nice, fairly straightforward job changing rubber tracks and undercarriage when it's dry and on a decent hardstanding. I enjoy doing it like that, most definitely not on a wet,muddy construction site in the freezing cold and pissing rain. Especially when its something like a mobile crusher or screener with metal tracks. Their super low ground clearance used to make it a terrible job to do in the middle of British winter. Consider yourself lucky out in the countryside without anyone annoying you every 5 minutes and no traffic jams wherever you go. I still enjoy watching you do stuff I've never done or worked on before. Its interesting. 👍👏
I can appreciate what your saying but I would like to add that Warren has many many times done this type of job in horrible conditions. As far as no traffic jams and annoying people, we choose to live in the country, some of us cannot stand people so we work longer and harder to live away from the mobs.
Warren would rather work in his nice clean shop over field work. There's nothing more he hates than getting dirty!
Warren, when we done those machines over here in aust we had a CAT needle valve on each cylinder so we could isolate each side if necessary also to fine tune the adjustment if needed, it also worked well if the hydraulics were a bit leaky all in all every thing went well, warren I love your vids and I have learnt a lot from you
Got to love the winch, no going back to the old one! The noise of the old one was enough to kill it!
Warren you are a true professional
Awsome another great Video you rock warren 👍💯⚒
Warren your youtube channel is growing so fast. Its all down to you and your awesome work ethic. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. Stay safe.
Hmmm, I thought it was growing really slow.
Like you custom idler removal tool. Sometimes referred to as a persuader, precision alignment tool, professional installation too, or a BDH. I used a similar one with shorter handle many times when installing gaskets in high pressure/high temp steam lines. Very flexible multi function device! Lol
Great job Warren thanks for sharing 🇦🇺👍
I like this guy, he’s a work SOB!
I used to have to repair and service semi truck tires and that was a chore someday's. but changing tracks on a tractor looks way harder.
Warren I have crawled under more than one dozer . My body hurts just watching you. Go till you can't anymore
Nice work Warren all do respect that look like fun doing that tell Oscar and the crew I said hello take care
Oh yeah she was ready for a new pair of shoes lol! Thanks for sharing bud take care now!👍
Dadgummit Warren, now I am worn out from watching this video and need a nap to re-cooperate......LOL
Seeing Warren lever the track off the rear drive wheel provides some scale, this is a big old tractor!
That cat sounds awesome.
Thanks for sharing Warren.. 👍💪
So the fork lift broke a timing belt and bent a valve? All you need now is the rain to set in for a week. Doesn't matter a bit, nothing will stop your determination!!! Keep the videos coming!! You are my motivation!!!
This makes the skid steer tracks I changed look like a walk in the park I can only imagine how heavy those are
Wow that's quite a project . Did not know you could retread those tracts. If there anything like a truck retread. That if cords were showing you could not retread them. Great video.
Now that's some work people wounder why this kind of work is so expensive. There you have it just watch. My back hurts and all I did was watch it. Have a good one Warren
Those old tracks make awesome snow pushers for a skid loader or tractor loader.
Man, that is a job !!!
one man gang vids are getting real good
definitely like since he himself changed on such caterpillars and running
Nice video. I see how someone can get in big trouble really fast when unbolting the front wheel. That would break a couple bones. Sure would like to see the new ones go on and how you do that.
I normally let the airbag flat and chain or strap the bogie frame together at the front. Makes it a lot easier for changing out and installation
Nice work, Challengers changed when AGCO bought Cat out so I understand depending who you talk too it was good and bad.
Knee pads Warren? Yours might going like mine. Good idea mate...
Very nice video, thank you.
Hey Boss, if while had ahold of the track on bottom in front. You pulled off, then slack off and put the hoist line center of the outside of track still hooked to the bottom of track and lifted it will roll the track back, clearing the lugs of the drive wheels (no baring etc) then reposition winch line to pull off completely.
I have said it before. I removed the tents and the air bags and chained up the bogie frames. I actually used the cylinder stops for safety reasons. But I also jacked the tractor up first. I supported it the very front and under the draw bar. I I did this in June and it is still waiting waiting for the tension cylinders to come back from Cat. They would no longer hold nitrogen.
Warren I don’t know if you cound Mount a snack block to the side of your service truck or not but seems like it would be helpful when pulling side ways. I don’t have a crane but use winch and snatch block it really is useful for me.
I really look forward to your videos.
Man you still got that grader there I thought that guy needed it right away lol
You’re one cool cat, Warren.
When Warren says challenger you know he don't mean no mopar!
I like the look of these old challengers more then the new ones.
Cameron D I do as well. They’ve always reminded me of a military tank.
DCL Farms yeah I’d say it’s because of the tracks. The new ones look like a cheese wedge 🧀
This one is absolutely massive. The later machines were definitely more optimized.
Nothing purrs like a CAT. There was a reason why the military never received continuous band rubber tracks. This proves the point.
Why the fuck would the military even need or want rubber track?
should of had one of your 52 buckets you have out there to throw all them bolts into lol
How did you come up with fifty two buckets Warren? Is that one bucket for each day of the week? Yeah Corn Pop 20 20
@@geesss8675 A@
Are there shims between the main wheels to set the gap for the lugs? So do not pinch/wobble the lugs in the center of the wheels.? Like fan belts ride the pulley at the correct depth.
"Let's crawl under here!" Mr Rogers Neighborhood. Lol
I wear my Romeos to work in too Warren. Lol. Todd the retired trucker.
I have said it before. I removed the tents and the air bags and chained up the bogie frames.
Wow, sucking that axle back is slicker than cow slobber on a door knob!
I just love equipment! I'm curious on what you do with the old tracks? I know in California everything has to be recycled in some way! Is there a company who picks up old rubber tracks for recycling?
is the owner going to have the advised work done, new tread and new rubber for the bogie wheels?
Nice Job Have Fun
Man I wanted to see you put the new tracks on
Those tracks sure look heavy! What would a pair of them cost? Warren, the sound on the video is great, what did you do?
$20k AUD
I need to know how to hook my hoses up, to back off my track tensioner.
Warren, you tie the cylinders together to detention them and you may leave them tied together when you tension the new ones that would mean they would have to be a match set. How much if any can that center pivot move, and if not? How would you tension the tracks the same. if you rip one would you have to replace both?
It's a lot simpler then the old U models.
I may be wrong but, it also looks like the drive sprocket/hubs need to have new rubber on them as well. Is it possible to get wider "wheel" for the 75c now? Or is it stuck with current sizes? Cheers :)
I have never driven one of those machines but I'm curious is there a way to drive each track individually like an excavator? Or is it just like a dozer with 1 main diff and side brakes?
is the Grader still there.. i worry about that steering column fix.. i think its going to fail.. replace the broken shaft..
As usual matey great vid,but why the bands round the bottom of the coveralls ,not got rats in the challenger has it lol 😂
What’s the cost difference in putting tracks on or putting a whole set of regular tractor tires on seems like tracks would be way more expensive and a lot more work
I see that grader is still taking up space.
Dave Haley wants a word with you on how he replaced his center lugs on his sister's skid steer track... LOL... nothing he can't cobble!
If they are scrap could you not cut them across and then slide it out , or are they going to be reused somewhere ?? By the way i have NO knowledge at all on this subject but love watching, how you remember all this is amazing and on your own. Stay safe mate.
Now you have the problem if getting rid of the old tracks.how will that work?
Auto on the video @ 15:21 want to low i could not understand what you were saying and i wear two hearing Aids, but i did enjoy it..see Ya, I rang the bell?
Like to know how to change the air bags - air springs - on a Challenger…
I got a lot of grief about being picky about tracks on my excavators. That's likely due to being around Amtracks in my gator days.
Is there any scrap value to those used tracks?
What do you do with the used track ?
Dang you make that look easy. Is that owner going to replace all those wheels and the the seals on the axel. He's crazy if he doesn't. but it is more money for you if he doesn't. would be a shame to have to do the same work again though just to make it right. I would tell him no warranty if he doesn't
I am very curious to know what the labor time is for this job? Purely by the hour or do you charge a flat fee per track? In any event I see this and tell my self "Only 40 years ago would I tackle something this difficult." I'm 77 years old. I could no more do a job like this than fly.
Hello my guy , i have a 1997 85D , the track is loose and wanted to know how to tension it back, the track is slipping. Please can you show me how to do it. Thank you
HDR is a full contact sport
Hearing about John Deer and Cat about the undercarriage and track wear, it makes me wonder if you couldn't use the wider rollers from a Deer on the Challenger if you wanted to have more even wear on the track
No more cast iron metal tracks?...everything is rubber?
Remove ALL outside wheels?? I trust you. Just wondering.
You could use some 1 gallon buckets to put your bolts in then you wont have to pick them up off of the ground. Time saver
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You still got that grader sittin there...
That's some very expensive maintenance $$$
Tight squeeze through that door lol.
You look small next to the Trax looks rough using a bar
I'm just seeing this now, don't know how I missed it. This might be silly stupid but why couldn't you just run a saw through the top of the old belt and drive off the belt. Seems like it would save a ton of time.
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I'd be in a real hurry, if I were you, to get a working forklift!
boom!
The rubber on the outside doesn't really effect the track you can run the right to the metal and be fine its just another cushion layer for it even Asv will tell you dont worry about replacing the wheels run them and they have kinda the same set up and from what I noticed its true and why would the dealer lie and make less money than selling the wheels?
Sorry, this isn't a skid steer or mini excavator, you can't run metal on the rollers on the inside, I have changed probably 20 sets of tracks where the rollers aate clear through the cords and separated the track, you are comparing apples to oranges.
@@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353 guess they should of had Egar hetten then design those pieces of shit lol hes pretty much the best track designer out there you can read about him in messuems best track guy out there asv vts arctic cat Polaris and so on you name it he made it
Oh yeah john deere 764 speed dozer same set up and you don't need to replace the rubber rollers on them you can run them right on down and they run camso tracks on them ran them plenty and its in gravel all day long so either those challengers got a shit set up or or just guys beyond rough on equipment because something tells me gravel is a little bit more abrasive than mud or corn stalks same with those asv and asphalt as well and even rubber track pavers same thing you dont have to at all they get coated in asphalt and don't eat the track up maybe that's why they stopped making challengers must be junk except for rebranded agcos
If water and shit gets into those cables they are fucked in no time. I had one go on me the other week, small tear in the rubber, been like it for months, tracked 25 yards and the track ripped half its width. The strain on the other cords was so much that it let go after another 50 yards.
Where are you located?
Are they going to replace the rubber on the bogie wheels or do they do an exchange system Warren
We are going to have new rubber pressed on.
western truck and tractor repair Thank you for your reply and your channel excellent
Catapillar sued John Deere back in 1996 over the Challenger track design.