@@santiagobiscontin1834 that’s what happens when you ban a cornerstone of the deck Ravager was played in effectively killing the deck in competitive scenarios.
@@natejablonski Ravager was not going to go down in price that much due to another card being banned in one format. It's too good in other formats, and barely had any printings.
@@andrewsparkes8829 Ravager only saw any real amount of play in Modern, since there is next to zero demand in Modern for this card and add on two large reprints almost back to back.
I had to pause, read shrapnel blast twice, and check the comments to make sure I was not just missing something. It can be hard to not get tunnel vision when you see a potential winning line. Get'em next time Seth!
lets be honest with ourselves, it not the reprint that made Arcbound Ravager $6 its the banning of Mox Opal and with it any chance Affinity has of being a top teir deck that made it a cheep card
I wanna see a deck with all the cards that Seth famously mispronounced. It's gotta contain "Bonded" Courier, "Bugler" Rat, "Sir"- Cute-ious Route and others!
I feel the drop in price for Arcbound Ravager had less to do with the Secret Lair drop and more to do with the fact that Affinity died to the Mox Opal ban.
I feel your pain my friend closest I can get to competitive eternal magic without spending bookoos of money is historic on arena. My modern Bogles is itching to be played again.
Idk what your situation is but I've recently discovered you can rent cards for as little as $10 a month on mtgo which compared to what I normally spend on magic is super reasonable. It's not the same as a nice FNM but it's something.
@@jakecollin5499 I've tried moto and maybe once I get moved into my new house I may try it again but it's very awkward and finicky. Plus having to buy all the cards and pay for tournaments where as on Arena I can completely play for free.
I still often play regular Affinity (Grixis) and it's still very powerful, even without Mox Opal. I think a build as close as possible to the old version is still the most streamlined and powerful (outside of the Hardened Scales version), but with the addition of Gingerbrute and Ensoul Artifact. My version, fully powered with Inkmoths, is about $150.
As a Bogles player that was definitely a rookie pilot lol. In my early days I also made the mistake of attacking in with a Bogle and not enough toughness. Also you never ever keep a hand without a creature more so specifically a bogle unless you're down to four. Mine is Esper Bogles and it's very different lol.
At 41:19 I would have strongly considered playing the fling land. It would let you activate both blinkmoths and overseer to hit for 4 (the same amount of damage) and represents more damage each turn and is resilient to removal
I'd love to see what you'd do to these budget decks as upgrades without a budget, I love anything affinity related and would love to know what you'd do with no cash limit
Match 2, game 3, turn 4: Anger of the Gods on the stack, you should sacrifice Ravager to itself and use Modular to put counters on the Memnite. Since you save 1 mana not having to equip the Cranial Plating to Ravager, you now have mana for the Fling kill
Two questions for you: 1. What do you think about including grapeshot? Seems like it might synergize nicely with all the zero casting cost artifacts. 2. I'm still learning the rules. How does Kazuul's Fury meet the Lurrus restriction? It has a 3 CMC?
Match 2 game 3, if you had used ravagers moduler on the memnite you would have had the fling kill the following turn when they just had a sanctuary open.
Heres an idea for budget storm in modern, blistercoil weird and paradise mantle with just cantrips using fling, something that gives trample, or grapeshot as a finisher
I had a weird Storm Mill deck that used Diligent Excavator (mill 2 whenever you cast a historic spell), Altar of the Brood (mill one whenever a permanent enters), and lots of 0-cmc artifacts. Had 4x Tormod's Crypt and 2x Days Undoing in the main deck, so the Hogaak meta of the time didn't even bother me too much. Could sideboard in Reckless Fireweavers/Grapeshots to go another non-mill route too. Was actually pretty decent - was basically a Paradoxical Outcome deck with weaker 0-cmc artifacts!
@@ThunderousChemQ27 thanks! I'll try that and do some testing, I'm kinda newish to modern so I never got to play real affinity and am interested in trying out some version
It didn't end up mattering, but Match Four, in the last game, if you had Flung in response to the spatial distortion you would've won before they ever assembled tron.
All the Affinity parts are budget after the Mox Opal ban Yeah, the reprints helped a little bit, but the nail in the coffin were the Mox ban, so the missing of fast Mana and the Sideboard hate against Artifacts
At the end of match 4, if you hadn't drawn an artifact, you could've swung with a Blinkmoth Nexus and used Galvanic Blast to shock them. You didn't need to use the metalcraft ability on Galvanic Blast.
I have a general quesiton. Do you think that Modern could bear having the original artifact lands unbanned? It may be too broken, but it would make the artifact strategies far more potent in an otherwise-stale meta.
honestly suprised that there isnt a single copy of Atog or ravenous intruder in the deck. Maybe replace the etched champion with a stonecoil serpent, if youre looking for a creature with >3 cmc and protection.
Shrapnel blast the bounced snapcaster in response? You still have lethal attack (assuming no more removal/no counters). Seems basically the same play as shrapnel blasting their face. They probably don't have a bolt in hand AND a counter otherwise they would have done that (safer for them) so the play of bouncing snap implies to me they don't have it all. Obviously things could still go wrong, but it was early concession/misplay.
I'm pretty sure the even bigger reason that cards like Arcbound Ravager and Glimmervoid are really cheap now is because Mox Opal is banned, so the actual affinity deck is gone.
I think the etched champion in the sideboard can be replaced by a slag fiend. Champion is terrible top deck and you really want it to dodge removal. It kills your Lurrus plan entirely and doesn't help you after a wrath. Slag fiend can be a 1CMC 5/5 or maybe larger after a wrath (or a bunch of removal from your opponent) and costs... I think 25c? This is obviously a budget choice, but it keeps you in red and can even be flung for the last few damage after a wrath (something etched champion cannot do).
What are your thoughts on adding Hope of G. to interact with Lurrus? Any added value there, especially with HoG being a flyer? I was thinking it could possibly replace Bomat, since we didn't see consistent value with its ability. Game on!
I don't think the reprints had anywhere near as much to do with the price drop on Ravager as the banning of Mox Opal to pay for Urza's sins. Affinity and Lantern went from T2 to not meta because WotC was still gun-shy about banning cards they just got done selling to people.
Hi Seth, enjoyed the video as always. Do you think you might be able to play these decks through leagues in future? Would be interested to see how they do there rather than in the 2 player queue
Affinity was my 1st real deck pre mox ban... I feel drum just isnt as nessasary as i went more red in my current build.. Ur video coulnt have come at a better time bro, im goin more industry, glimmervoid, city brass, ect to now facilitate etherium and such.. Yet the hotbots (red robots) have been decent.. Not meta, but can snag some games.. Thanks for ur content as ushal bro and seriously thanks for the idea
In final game of Match 4, wouldn't you have just been able to win regardless of what you drew because you could have activated a Blinkmoth, swung in for 1 in the air, then Galvanic Blast for 2?
I like this deck. I'm want get into affinity and Ultimately break into modern. Would this deck be a bad idea for my first modern deck? That I can take to fnm and learn to use it and eventually add cards like urza's saga, etc.? Or should I stick to and buy a current 8-cast affinity deck or regular affinity deck as low as I can go to like $280-300? Edit: I just saw lurrus was banned. 😕
I think these card prices are all so low because most artifact aggro players switched archetypes when KTGC was printed. If you look at the graphs all started dropping in price around WotS
Seeing you play against a bogles player who kept a no creature hand really makes me want you to play in actual leagues with budget magic decks. I know it makes them look worse but it’s a better representation of what it feels like to play at a competitive FNM
Match 4 game 3 you had lethal no matter what. You were happy you top decked an artifact creature so you could Galvanic Blast for 4, but you had 2 blinkmoths and a Galvanic blast for 2 so it didn't matter what you drew there
@@MTGGoldfish Omg. I re-read worldbreaker before I commented thinking "does it have reach?" and didn't see the word reach on the card. Very, very sneaky
Archbound Ravager as a budget card. What a wild timeline we live in.
#FACTS Really so wierd Who would think that A.R can be so low....Better for players but so strange this 2020 been crazy
@@santiagobiscontin1834 that’s what happens when you ban a cornerstone of the deck Ravager was played in effectively killing the deck in competitive scenarios.
Who thought we would ever see Arcbound Ravager in a budget deck.
I know it's too soon, but...
I actually thought about it when Opal got banned.
@@natejablonski Ravager was not going to go down in price that much due to another card being banned in one format. It's too good in other formats, and barely had any printings.
Same, affinity without opal is kinda weak but still good, but not better than burn or jeskai control
It was reprinted last year pr the year before that and given away at gp's that made it drop the price.
@@andrewsparkes8829 Ravager only saw any real amount of play in Modern, since there is next to zero demand in Modern for this card and add on two large reprints almost back to back.
Bomit, Vomit, Bomat, and Bonded Courier all walk into a bar
Bonded really really hurts me...
Like it's not even fucking close...
Seth inadvertently playing around Kroxa by forgetting to put Lurrus in his hand
Got 'em.
18:42 oops almost said the right name there, good catch
Match 2 game 1, could have Shrapnel blast the Snapcaster and barring any interaction would have won on the next attack.
I had to pause, read shrapnel blast twice, and check the comments to make sure I was not just missing something. It can be hard to not get tunnel vision when you see a potential winning line. Get'em next time Seth!
Problem is that the Kroxa kills him at that point
@@todcharlie1168 can't cast Kroxa because of how they tapped at that point though
Just came to see if anyone else seen that. Lol
Seth might've lost the game but he won the punt
The fact you didn't name it "afflingaty" shows me you didn't even try... Lol love ya saffron olive
@@horrorspirit afflingyeeti
I know, right? This deck really needed to be called AFFLINGITY!!
lets be honest with ourselves, it not the reprint that made Arcbound Ravager $6 its the banning of Mox Opal and with it any chance Affinity has of being a top teir deck that made it a cheep card
This. The reprint was insult to injury.
One. Hundred. Percent.
I wanna see a deck with all the cards that Seth famously mispronounced. It's gotta contain "Bonded" Courier, "Bugler" Rat, "Sir"- Cute-ious Route and others!
I feel the drop in price for Arcbound Ravager had less to do with the Secret Lair drop and more to do with the fact that Affinity died to the Mox Opal ban.
Anyone else need to go and check the date of the video during round 1? Really brought me back to the old days of modern
Seth, match 4 you survived more than just the O-stone & Ulamog... Spatial Contortion, Ancient Stirrings AND a World Breaker. Incredible match.
I started playing modern on magic online with your artifact blast and i loved it, so i'm really glad to see this deck :)
Awesome!
I miss Mox Opal :(
MOX OPAL DID NOTHING WRONG! IT DIED FOR THE SINS OF URZA!
Blame eggs or urza, right?
@@eusouzoom I don't think eggs was ever really a significant problem. Urza on the other hand...
@@jakecollin5499 Eggs also got blasted off the face of the earth beforehand no?
This makes me miss modern. I only have a paper collection and haven’t played since the whole shut down thing.
I feel your pain my friend closest I can get to competitive eternal magic without spending bookoos of money is historic on arena. My modern Bogles is itching to be played again.
@@winssports4830, hopefully in 6-12 months they are running events again.
@@ValariaxSword we can only hope
Idk what your situation is but I've recently discovered you can rent cards for as little as $10 a month on mtgo which compared to what I normally spend on magic is super reasonable. It's not the same as a nice FNM but it's something.
@@jakecollin5499 I've tried moto and maybe once I get moved into my new house I may try it again but it's very awkward and finicky. Plus having to buy all the cards and pay for tournaments where as on Arena I can completely play for free.
This reminds me of the affinity deck I’ve played a lot in penny dreadful this season. Love it.
23:57 Why not just shrapnel blast the snappy ?
Wow! This deck is awesome!
Glad you liked it!
Very good games. That's the Modern format we all know and love :D
I still often play regular Affinity (Grixis) and it's still very powerful, even without Mox Opal. I think a build as close as possible to the old version is still the most streamlined and powerful (outside of the Hardened Scales version), but with the addition of Gingerbrute and Ensoul Artifact. My version, fully powered with Inkmoths, is about $150.
As a Bogles player that was definitely a rookie pilot lol. In my early days I also made the mistake of attacking in with a Bogle and not enough toughness. Also you never ever keep a hand without a creature more so specifically a bogle unless you're down to four. Mine is Esper Bogles and it's very different lol.
Cranial Plating is such a beating. Nice win against the Kroxa deck!
At 41:19 I would have strongly considered playing the fling land. It would let you activate both blinkmoths and overseer to hit for 4 (the same amount of damage) and represents more damage each turn and is resilient to removal
Please try this deck on a competitive non budget version, I think it might be pretty good!!!
Way to crush bogles Seth! Loved the vid
I'd love to see what you'd do to these budget decks as upgrades without a budget, I love anything affinity related and would love to know what you'd do with no cash limit
They make non-budget versions in the article.
Make Affinity Great Again 2020!
Afflingity, the true unspoken name.
This deck is pretty creative and janky! Great selection
Thanks!
Weird watching ravager affinity vs nacatl zoo. What is this 2015?
Match 2, game 3, turn 4:
Anger of the Gods on the stack, you should sacrifice Ravager to itself and use Modular to put counters on the Memnite. Since you save 1 mana not having to equip the Cranial Plating to Ravager, you now have mana for the Fling kill
this reminds me of Atog + Grad the Reins back in triple Mirrodin draft. good times.
Before I watch, I hope Seth say A-Fling-ity!
Take a shot every time Seth says "Bonded Courier" 💀
Two questions for you:
1. What do you think about including grapeshot? Seems like it might synergize nicely with all the zero casting cost artifacts.
2. I'm still learning the rules. How does Kazuul's Fury meet the Lurrus restriction? It has a 3 CMC?
man its a lot of fun go watch this deck *steel* some wins
Match 2 game 3, if you had used ravagers moduler on the memnite you would have had the fling kill the following turn when they just had a sanctuary open.
Seth, you insult ravager! It's cheap because Mox is gone. ;_;
Man that last match, game 1 would've gone a lot differently if you had remembered Lurrus.
(Spoiler), Seth match 2 g 2 you had a chance if you shrapnel blasted a spring leaf drum in response to the jace trigger
Heres an idea for budget storm in modern, blistercoil weird and paradise mantle with just cantrips using fling, something that gives trample, or grapeshot as a finisher
I had a weird Storm Mill deck that used Diligent Excavator (mill 2 whenever you cast a historic spell), Altar of the Brood (mill one whenever a permanent enters), and lots of 0-cmc artifacts. Had 4x Tormod's Crypt and 2x Days Undoing in the main deck, so the Hogaak meta of the time didn't even bother me too much. Could sideboard in Reckless Fireweavers/Grapeshots to go another non-mill route too. Was actually pretty decent - was basically a Paradoxical Outcome deck with weaker 0-cmc artifacts!
So the big thing budget can't afford now is ballista? Where would people fit that in if I say wanted to build this on modo?
It depends on how many Ballista's you'd want. I'd start with cutting a Menmite and a Vault Skirge personally and go from there.
@@ThunderousChemQ27 thanks! I'll try that and do some testing, I'm kinda newish to modern so I never got to play real affinity and am interested in trying out some version
Ravager really matters. Sweeet, got to stuck it to tron 👊
Ravager being budget friendly is a huge deal!
It didn't end up mattering, but Match Four, in the last game, if you had Flung in response to the spatial distortion you would've won before they ever assembled tron.
The point about Arcbound Ravager's price is more about Mox Opal being banned than reprints. But yes, reprints are always welcome.
All the Affinity parts are budget after the Mox Opal ban
Yeah, the reprints helped a little bit, but the nail in the coffin were the Mox ban, so the missing of fast Mana and the Sideboard hate against Artifacts
At the end of match 4, if you hadn't drawn an artifact, you could've swung with a Blinkmoth Nexus and used Galvanic Blast to shock them. You didn't need to use the metalcraft ability on Galvanic Blast.
Worldbreaker has reach. If he attacks with 2 blinkmox then no mana for burn spell.
Game 2 bonded currier. I love how Seth pronounces cards
After first K-Command by op: "So much removal" lolol
It's two removal spells in one!
I would love to see some improvise cards in the Deck list
Perhaps for the next budget brew
I have a general quesiton. Do you think that Modern could bear having the original artifact lands unbanned? It may be too broken, but it would make the artifact strategies far more potent in an otherwise-stale meta.
honestly suprised that there isnt a single copy of Atog or ravenous intruder in the deck. Maybe replace the etched champion with a stonecoil serpent, if youre looking for a creature with >3 cmc and protection.
Is atog modern legal?
@@jakecollin5499 a bit late, but yeah it was printed in mirrodin
the mox opal ban was the reason ravager went down in price, not some secret lair.
Shrapnel blast the bounced snapcaster in response? You still have lethal attack (assuming no more removal/no counters). Seems basically the same play as shrapnel blasting their face. They probably don't have a bolt in hand AND a counter otherwise they would have done that (safer for them) so the play of bouncing snap implies to me they don't have it all.
Obviously things could still go wrong, but it was early concession/misplay.
Came to say the same thing, he scooped a little early on that one.
I read the title as Flying Affinity and thought to myself "ooh, what's that wacky-looking spirit in the thumbnail gonna do".
I'm pretty sure the even bigger reason that cards like Arcbound Ravager and Glimmervoid are really cheap now is because Mox Opal is banned, so the actual affinity deck is gone.
18:42 nearly called it correct, but he saved it in the last second!
I think the etched champion in the sideboard can be replaced by a slag fiend. Champion is terrible top deck and you really want it to dodge removal. It kills your Lurrus plan entirely and doesn't help you after a wrath. Slag fiend can be a 1CMC 5/5 or maybe larger after a wrath (or a bunch of removal from your opponent) and costs... I think 25c? This is obviously a budget choice, but it keeps you in red and can even be flung for the last few damage after a wrath (something etched champion cannot do).
2 CMC is a lot, but, Immolating Souleater is a card that can do some serious work in a deck like this.
What are your thoughts on adding Hope of G. to interact with Lurrus? Any added value there, especially with HoG being a flyer? I was thinking it could possibly replace Bomat, since we didn't see consistent value with its ability. Game on!
I love this deck but alot of punts I noticed lol
@23:56 Can you Shrapnel blast the Snapcaster mage dans attack for lethal?
11:56 If you had turned on Blinkmoth (instead of playing Plating) and attacked with everything, you had 10 points of dmg, just sayin'.
i wasnt only one who saw it good
You don't know how Battle Cry works. Or don't know Signal Pest is a 0/1.
@John Sullivan Yeah I re-checked and didn't notice the 2nd Ornithopter had just been played. My bad. @Tiago Camurça You jump to conclusions.
I don't think the reprints had anywhere near as much to do with the price drop on Ravager as the banning of Mox Opal to pay for Urza's sins. Affinity and Lantern went from T2 to not meta because WotC was still gun-shy about banning cards they just got done selling to people.
Hi Seth, enjoyed the video as always. Do you think you might be able to play these decks through leagues in future? Would be interested to see how they do there rather than in the 2 player queue
Affinity was my 1st real deck pre mox ban... I feel drum just isnt as nessasary as i went more red in my current build.. Ur video coulnt have come at a better time bro, im goin more industry, glimmervoid, city brass, ect to now facilitate etherium and such.. Yet the hotbots (red robots) have been decent.. Not meta, but can snag some games..
Thanks for ur content as ushal bro and seriously thanks for the idea
Hey Seth, have you thought about putting Pia’s Revolution in this deck? It makes Ravager go crazy and might be worth the 1-2 of
Haven't watched in a while, the beard looking great! also great deck...
Welcome back, and thanks!
I've never heard "Stirling" used in that meaning before. Interesting
In final game of Match 4, wouldn't you have just been able to win regardless of what you drew because you could have activated a Blinkmoth, swung in for 1 in the air, then Galvanic Blast for 2?
Worldbreaker has reach
Sneaks Reach on Worldbreaker :(
@@MTGGoldfish Ah, I didn't see that! It was down a few lines in the card text ^^'
I like this deck. I'm want get into affinity and Ultimately break into modern. Would this deck be a bad idea for my first modern deck? That I can take to fnm and learn to use it and eventually add cards like urza's saga, etc.? Or should I stick to and buy a current 8-cast affinity deck or regular affinity deck as low as I can go to like $280-300?
Edit: I just saw lurrus was banned. 😕
If it wasn’t budget thorn of the amethyst might be the better play. You don’t lose lurris and you make removal cost more
I think these card prices are all so low because most artifact aggro players switched archetypes when KTGC was printed. If you look at the graphs all started dropping in price around WotS
8:33 what year is it? Because I have not seen naya burn in a long time
to Flingfinity and BEYOND!
It wasn’t the reprinting it was the Mox Opal ban that killed the rest of affinity prices.
44:00 That had to feel good
I don't really understand why he reacted that way, he had lethal no matter what. Galvanic blast for 2 plus a single blink moth = lethal
World Breaker has reach so we were one point short if we didn't topdeck something.
I can pre order commander legends!
Seeing you play against a bogles player who kept a no creature hand really makes me want you to play in actual leagues with budget magic decks. I know it makes them look worse but it’s a better representation of what it feels like to play at a competitive FNM
Ghirapur Aether Grid also nullifies Lurrus as it's a 3 cmc enchantment? I think its actually pretty necessary, though.
I feel like Aether Grid is worth losing Lurrus, although Etched Champion isn't.
When you managed to 2-0 that first time, my jaw was agape
Match 4 game 3 you had lethal no matter what. You were happy you top decked an artifact creature so you could Galvanic Blast for 4, but you had 2 blinkmoths and a Galvanic blast for 2 so it didn't matter what you drew there
Worldbreaker has sneaky reach though.
@@MTGGoldfish Omg. I re-read worldbreaker before I commented thinking "does it have reach?" and didn't see the word reach on the card. Very, very sneaky
Doesn't Roiling Vortex nonbo hard with ornithopter and such?
Ideally we'll have cast our Ornithopters first, although yes, that can be an issue.
Playing Affinity, pairs up against Naya Burn, Grixis Control, Bogles, and Tron.
... What year is it?
11:46 turn to creature manland, attack for 10, game
It's only 9 damage right?
@@jacobthorn2800 no cause battle cry
@@romanishchenko1742 memnite1 = 2dmg, memnite2 = 2dmg, courier = 2md, blinkmoth = 2dmg and thopter = 1dmg. 9dmg total. What am I missing?
@@jacobthorn2800 Yeah, you are right, ive counter ornithopter as 1-power creatute
Today Seth 2-0's his nemesis. Bogles.
“WE HAVE A COMPANION”
Hey man I dk if u even will c this but what r some cards I can get to upgrade this deck to the best it can be?
Could oozalith work in this deck??
Hello guys, new to modern, would like to know what are u thinking about potential upgrades to this deck?
There is a non-budget list with upgrades in the article! www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/budget-magic-fling-affinity-modern
@@MTGGoldfish Oh, Thank you!
Anybody know why he didn't just play fling in this deck?
Naya Zoo, Bogles, and Affinity? What year is this?
Do you think the artifact lands could be unbanned with opal gone?
Aggressive reprints and affinity becoming a non tier deck
missed opportunity to call this afflingity
Why did lurrus have red stripes on his border?
Once he boarded Etched Champion or Ghirapur Aether Grid in, it's not a legal companion. Hence the change from blue to red
I miss mox opal too much
50:14
what happened to the language on this channel?!
Seth where can we contact you for our deck idea's?
SaffronOlive@MTGGoldfish.com
A-fling-ity