It's Topical | 2024 Elections: Former Pres. Jacob Zuma's disqualification - What's next?
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- Опубліковано 4 чер 2024
- What's next for former President Jacob Zuma and the MK party following the IEC upholding the objection to bar him from running in the upcoming elections? Prof. Bheki Mngomezulu, HSRC's Joleen Steyn Kotze, legal analyst Melusi Xulu and the digital audience weigh in on the matter.
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IEC did not make this decision independently instead ANC gangsters instructed them. There’s no transparency or justice for all in SA. The president was found with foreign money in his ranch but declared by the PP not guilty. JZ refused to appear before the Zondo Commission and was immediately sentenced to 15 months. Due to this I am voting MK
Succes with your Voting if you are not going to VOTE for Pensionado from old age homes to make a Mess of the Country 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😏
Prof Mghomezulu,speaking truth without fear,statement of fact...
Zuma spokesperson
Will vote for MK and change the constitution 💚💚🖤🖤
No matter how many analysts you bring, no matter how bad you talk about President Zuma. Many people with vote for MK.. And a Clear Fact
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Yess
As an MK, rest assured, we will fight this on a ballot paper.
Yes 💚 🖤 💚
Sizobona khona,😄😊ziyakhala manje
Truth is with pro mngomezulu
I will vote for MK ✊🏿✊🏿, this thing is bigger than these academics who have been leading this country astray, viva MK, viva Msholozi!
All Voting for uselesss Party which you are still struggle living under tin shelters bad situation drinking Dirt water with bacteriën too ignorance folks many people are homeless Gruel selfish 😏😏
Hear, hear!
If I was not voting EFF, I would definitely vote for MK.
@@biko8229 either way my brother, EFF and MK have more or less the same goals, which must be realized after May 29, the expropriation of land, the nationalization of the reverse bank, those two, are non negotiable from now on
✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾💚🟢🟢🖤🖤🖤 Viva MK Viva!!!!!
Senegal tried barring opposition from contesting,this only strengthens the opposition
Maybe you right
It worked in Zimbabwe
@@RofhiwaRamabulana I agree with you i think so
The only professor who makes sense
IEC law and regulations interpretation shouldn't be selective. mandela came from prison and was elected as the President of the republic. So the law should be consistent
Are you that blind to compare Mandela case wuth the case of jacob Zuma?
@@nelsonnombo8731are you talking about fabricated cases of Zuma of which is why even today were not resolved?I won't even talk about it was didmissed twice but because some wanted to make Zuma dirty they try to continue with it
@@nelsonnombo8731I think the discussion is based on the electoral law applied at that time, let us not be emotional ...let us apply our minds...
Mandela's arrest was political and wasn't under democratic rule so as a result his criminal record was expanged resulting in him not having a criminal record
Mandela' s is totally different. All political prisoners were exempted unlike eli sela uzuma
The threat of violence in elections must be dealt with harshly by our law enforcement agencies. We cannot be held at ransom by criminals.
😂
U talking about this law that favor/benefits White people only
EXACTLY...PEOPLE MUST BE HELD TO ACCOUNT WITHOUT FEAR AND FAVOR...
Maybe intolerant to threatened Voters for their mening in Democracy
Never will the law favour black people in our life time,Zuma himself knows that.he is got first hand information and experience.we mustn't get fooled that things will change will he gets back into power again.we might end up crying more than now.We must remember Americans control us all
Lomuthetho we Iec kuMandela awusetshenzizwanga
Kodwa nisafuna ukufundiswa nina ,niyifanisa kanjani indaba kaMandela neka Zuma?uZuma wagwetshwa ngokudelela inkantolo ,uMandela wayegwetshelwe ukulwela nina nithole lelungelo lokukhuluma manje ,but nina lelungelo nilisebenzisa ukulwela ikhehla elibolile elithanda yonke into ebgedayo enokukhwabanisa
@@nelsonnombo8731noZuma wagwetshwa egwetshelwa ukuthi sikhululeke makungabi sengathi uMandela kphela
@@nelsonnombo8731wayezilwela yena loyo Mandela why umnotho wabantu abamnyama wagcinwa ezandleni zaBelungu
True why to ZUMA the law is applied?
They should give Prof position at MK as an advisor or spokesperson 😂
Can the IEC and the judiciary provide us with Mr Jacob Zuma's CAS number of his criminal record
Criminals mustn't allowed to touch the ground
Roland lamula must come out and tell us the truth
But President Zuma never pronounced that he wants to go to parliament 😊.
Go and listen to his supporters like Bonginkosi khanyile
He should be sitting at home then,looking after grandchildren,why on touring club MK
@@nelsonnombo8731but that doesn't change that in his speeches he never mentioned that but Khanyile maybe does say it
@nelsonnombo8731 so his supporters want him in Parliament?
@@tsekomofokeng182who gave you powers to dictate what other people should do with their lives...??
Hypocrites. Mandela was sentenced and in prison for 27yrs and was on the ballot. But not Zuma. Claiming that he brought the economy to its knees, but Guptas not even owning 5% of the economy. Ramaphosa scandal is no more, because he's one of them, their favorite son. Hypocrites
Whether Zuma MK president or not it doesn't matter we are MK at heart & mind. I dont support the idea of burning Zuma for such a criminal record if he really committed a crime in a true sense of it. Msholozi was never trial for that conviction.
You must be out of your Mind Zuma during his president he Duistering Billions money that is reason why Many people Starving there homeless living in bad situation Povert & Zuma His Pensionado 80 years Old should be sitting at home with granchildrens instead of Provocation come up people that is being Idioot Greed 👎👎
Did he go to Zondo commission? Why did he run away? U know the answer
WELL YOU ARE AN SSS...TYPICAL OF ALL CRIMINALS
@@ntsikeleloedwardvena82 Committed Cmime óf Not ?? Its the óf Duistering Billions money, Which belong to the Country, meanwhile his own Nation Homeless, Have you Looked around where you Walking How people suffering and díe with hungry stomuch?? And Living In tin shelters shacks ?? With those Billions money Zuma duisterder he should Build up homes for people sorry that is My Points
YOU can Vote Who ever you want, Excepty You don't see the Truth about Zuma, That means all those 80.90. Years old sitting in old age homes they must come out & Be Candidate for Election to be chosen For Présidenten to rulled the Country ??? Wake up with your ideas we are living NOT in 1930, a 40 years back its 2024
first was Zuma found guilty or what, if its done to Zuma why not to Ramaphosa...what happened to Lephalaphala sagga
The Chess master is using guerrilla tactics to keep people off balance
A whole show dedicated to His Excellency,President Zuma.
No one cares about the opinions of these people here.
Nobody care Excellent Zuma? Because they Brainless the same Zuma he wás a biggest Corrupt in SA Duistering Billions money & people are too naive to think, Now with His 80years Old Provocation to Destroyed the Country all are interested is Firing blood Violences bah
Nobody care 's because many people uneducated those you can Convince them point out that is at
we will vote for MK not Zuma
Zuma knows what he wants from your
Justice for Khwezi😢 !!!
😂😂😂 Criminals always support each other
@@chiefer1325what justice,for that Zuma slept with her?Zuma admitted he slept with her not raped her?Are you people with rape propaganda?
Yebo Viva MK
One thing I have noticed in South Africa, one the spirits of hatred and jealous has been implanted in someone's heart, regardless of the amount of facts or truth, no one will take you serious. They only listen to opinions that appease them.
I applaud PROF Mngometulu, he sounds sober and free from emotions.
Wholeheartedly agree with you Sir.
I don't get I because that criminal record for me is like home made products and because of hate and political strategies and trying to destroy his rights.!!!
Joleen,spot on schorlarly insight
Only in South Africa where you have a criminal record for not doing any crime & no evidence tested for wrong doing.
Zuma is still have case on for arms deal fraud and corruption
@@ThulaniNdzuzo-ei5qb you don't understand only cases finalised at play here.
So are hoping that you will win at court?
Indeed. It should be quite obvious to South Africans that the country is being run by your former oppressors who use the courts and the constitution (which they drafted) to run the country. All this business of endlessly accusing black people of crimes which never go anywhere (See Malema, Zuma etc) creates perception that black people are inherently criminal, but more importantly, sets a precedent in the court system to be used in the future. They know what they are doing. Now you have our black people casually using terms of reference created by the minority, such as 'state capture', what does that even mean - the people at Stellenbosch own 90% of - well everything!
To refuse to appear in court is crime
Xulu is smart. You appeal it manual. Prof you are no longer an expert but just a politician. You are out of topic. Let's talk the current. Zuma was sentenced and taken to prison.
Beautiful roses and lavender...
Iqiniso limile ukuboshwa kuka Baba Msholozi kwakungekho emthethweni from the beginning.
So wena ufuna ukutshela amajaji ase constitutional court ukuthi kwakungekho semthethweni ukuboshwa kuka Zuma edelela inkantolo ?
@@nelsonnombo8731 Judge zondo Commission is not a court of law. ibibekelwe ukuphenya kuphela nalapho akukho lapho bamthola khona uZuma enecala lokweba imali.
Uyalahleka bawo ,zondo semt the case to the constitutional court and judges found Zuma guilty for contempt of court
Uzihlanganisa kanjani lezinto ezimbili ?uZuma watholakala enecala lokudelela inkanto not ekwebeni imali ,usawaqula lawo amacala e PMB high court,so please sulahleka uhlanganise izinto ezingahlangani
@@nelsonnombo8731Musa ukuqamba amanga, yini namanga? uBaba uMsholozi, waboshwa ngenxa yaZondo enza imithetho yakhe, mawu sukhuluma indaba zezimali, usunamangake lapho, ngisho ne report kazondo, akukho la ekuthiwa uZuma wantshontsha imali, kahle bo namanga umdala😮
Me I will never vote zupta
Because you are a fool
Not only you many ,but who cares MK is going to show anc flames watch
I will vote MK, my vote is no secret
😂😂😂Who cares
Kzn only Mk party
SABC shoulsfd have told us that they called MK spokespersons here.
😂😂they don't have the money to buy the media...this is pure interest
What was the case number of President Zuma's conviction?
Lovely I love this song rocking
I guess Msholozi is gedling other ideas before he makes some very important announcements while we're busy wasting time on this discussion.....the past and speculating.
No one will cause violence.people will vote MK...That's all abakushoyo.
Viva MK viva💪💪💪💪
Move on as you like Who stopt you not to VOTE for MK?? Get all the Dementions to VOTE 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This is not the platform for WITCH CRAFT
How do you determine majority before vote? Is the media speculation suggest majority...😮
President Jacob Zuma will be the President of SA because every African person is going to vote for the MK on 29th of May 2024 and people feel the pressures to change the constitution and the government of the ANC as they have consistently failed the people of South Africa ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Count me out😂
Count me out also,and the rest of black people except yourself
Unxilile wena
Its madness in high level🤞
AN S WILL BE AN S....DONT BLAME CRIMINALS
Hi house o deh doo the heat is on I for get my manares some times one love
There won’t be any violence niks,
Prof Mngomezulu i trusted you for a long time i didn't know nawe unje proper ganda
I would say you are the one suffering from severe limitations of thought. Learn to read between the lines of what your apartheid media feeds you. Simple rule here in Africa - if you see white people hating a black man (like Zuma), take a closer look, like the Prof - chances are that black man is working for the interests of his people. This simple test has never failed.
No one expected JZ would want to stand for public office. No precedence. He is doing it for some nefarious reasons. South Africans must be wary.
Thanks for the concern but I am voting MK ✊🏿
Uyagula wena.. nx!
By now every South African should be analyzing every move JZ makes and every word he utters. We should be guessing the next announcement from the MKP office.
Thabo Mbkei not campaigning we don't need to vote there is no one trust
Integrity should be the deciding factor
If a criminal refuse to appear before the magistrate, is the role of the police to arrest him/her, open the docket and the person concern forced to appear in court, why was Mr Zuma not arrested and appear in court but the court ruled in his absencentia?
What if soldiers refuse to come out to prevent looting or violence since they have their own objection with regard to treatment inside and outside the country we have heard of their plight in DRC.....does those in authority think about that possibility? Again, what if soldiers will only come out to protect the citizens from the brutal force of the police against the people? Maybe I am dreaming and wouldn't like to wake up to that situation?Just a 2 cent opinion
Desicions from who EU or USA OR RSA???
Ayesaba amagwala thath msholozi skhathele uphathwa iANC bahlulekile
Can u please ask legal person to tell us was zuma s arrest done according to the constitution all proceses where followe as in the rule book
😂don't, this is more cause to disband these ridiculous legal hurdles colonisers set up for us.
Umngomezulu ayikho into angayikhuluma ebhadlile ngoba yi supporter enkulu ka Zuma,so ngeke angawagxeki amajaji ngiba agweba umuntu amthanda kakhulu,uZuma wamosha and wadelela inkantolo
What's suppose to be next??!! Media!!
You left Land. It's not just about services such water and electricity. Economic resources such as Land are more critical.
If the IFP should use the picture of Buthelezi who is late together with that of the present leader, can the ANC use that of Thambo, Mandela and Hani together with that of the present leader because they are late?
Dr. Hani and Tambo would squirm in their graves!
@@shafiyaalgiquadra1105😂
Is this Mngimezulu a Professor or Mr Zuma spokesperson.
He is Zuma's spokesperson that one ,he always defend Zuma,he is one of the zulu's that believe if you are a zulu ,you must defemd other zulus even if they are wrong
Zuma spokesperson and at some point instill fear among society of not conteming a narrative of violence
There's never a show dedicated to Malema, or Ramaphosa means they are all irrelevant, Zuma is the ways ❤❤
Shame south africans like criminals,i can't believe people are fighting for the corrupt 81 years old ,sisazohlupheka thina sizwe esimnyama
@@nelsonnombo8731 Lol uwena o corrupted in your mind, uthuleleni while you are lead by Mr Phalaphala, Marikana, Glenmore, R500 billion, Judge Zondos friend?
What is of interest here? Is it the country or an individual?
Ngicela nezingane zakhe uBaba uZuma zigadwe ngoba bengakwenza okungalungile ngoba befuna ukumuzwisa uaBuhlungu Sholozi viva Mk viva siyayikhipha anc emandleni
Ingane zakhe azifuni ukumlandela kuba ziyamzi qha abantu balandela nje.kufuneka uqale endlini uku leader and the country.
In your dreams Anc never niyikuphe its just becoz uzuma une anger ngakuRamaposa 😂😂😂kohlwa
U Duduzane uyi Billiopnaire. U Khulubuse uyi multi millionaire so abadingi i protection yeni. Nina ni ryt khonaa lapha emgwaqeni nicothoza nizama ukuzenza amasitsha nilandela u Zuma😂🖐
Zizogadelwani ingane zakhe ngoba akekho umuntu ongalimaza ingane zika Zuma,and nina anazi lutho ngoba ezinye zemgane zika Zuma zisho zithi ubaba wazo unesandla ezinkingeni ezenzeka ezweni lethu ,so vukani niyeke ukusapota izinto eningazazi
Section 47 (d) anyone declared to be of unsound in mind...
Prof Mngomezulu has been vindicated by the electoral court,zondo and kampempe used emotions rather than law to incarcerate zuma.they are to blame for this mess
Great One -- love it all the way
Former President Jacob G. Zuma is the MK Party PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE. It is a shame that your panel coud not focus on the fact that Mr Zuma may NOT be president of S.A for a 3rd term. He is disqualified. 2. He has a criminal record in which he was sentenced to direct imprisonment without the option of a fine for a period exceeding 12 months. 3. He is facing multiple criminal records of a serious nature. 4. He should in a functioning democracy be charged with TREASON and Sedition for alienating his presidential duties and responsibilities to foreign agents, to wit, Indians. **** Talk about appealing !!!!!!!
I love Mgomezulu, but don’t criticise our justice system, you can’t think for judges.
Viva MK We are ready
Go to jail now
Thina ama comrade siyo wina amavote,😅😊VIVA ANC
Mngomezulu is totally wrong, please he must say "my view is that" not to declare judgement was wrong. He is not the authority to say so.
lf the Majority vote for Mkhonto ,what is going to happen?ls this vote going to be recognised,
No other choice, otherwise we disband this "democratic experiment" right there and then!
Off course it will be recognized, what kind of question is this?
This prof, his analysis leaves much 2 b desired. Do not start on sentencing. Start on why was zuma sentenced? We need analysts here not MK campaigner
I don't think this country will ever be on its track as long as we still being fed by this kind analysis which set wrong precedent
Jst bcoz he didn't suit yr narrative doesn't mean he's impartial
Can zuma be barred from south africa...maybe dubai people might appreciate to have him
In his personal capacity as a Political Analyist, Prof Mngomezulu didn't attempt to make fair political analyisis on the matter. To me, he appears as one who is indirectly campaigning for the MK party or Zuma himself.
Viva MKP❤
Section 84(2)j of the South African Constitution: Presidential Pardon/Remission♟
Mr Zuma doesn't respect other arms of the law.if he respected we shouldn't be here
Put another candidate in there, Zuma has had two terms abd he’s too old
People dont sleep thinking of Zuma❤
He is a real problem
Viva JZ
So as zuma does not sleep as he is obsessed with power that he is not going to get it
@ntsikeleloedwardvena82 A true self loving african person can't sleep when our black people are suffering daily, living in shacks, all wealth being controlled by foreign nations, our youth on drugs, and no jobs. Only a sellout and selfish individuals would think things are all going well under Ramaphosa
@@ntsikeleloedwardvena82 kuyoze kubenini nibuswa abelungu
@@ntsikeleloedwardvena82 kuyoze kubenini nibuswa abelungu
UDM, COPE, EFF now MK. Whosr fooling who here. 😂 You form a party, vote for you, you stay as president till kuyovalwa but you preach about democracy
Mngomezulu UYABHEDA la. Just join MK openly.
I EC leaf president JG Zuma Mk protect
ZUMA is in people hearts, they will vote against ANC
In KZN not SA
Yeah, covii changed society, whether it was here or not.🙁
At least SA accomplished what the USA did not accomplish with Trump.
Yasungulwa Nini lemithetho vele n if isungulwa kwakwaziwa yin ukt omongameli if enze into khona la ngayikhona so if utshontsha uwu mongameli awuboshwa vele noma aawuphenywa
😂😂 Mngomezulu is a rented analyst as his job is to descredit anything to do with the ruling party ...you can sense excitement when he speaks about Ramaphosa's interviews regardung the threat màde by MkP youth brigade..
He at all cost discredit every single word by Ramaphosa as an individual per se particularly.
Haha you want to change the constitution just because of Zuma. Just to accommodate him.
Accommodate isela tyhiiin
We dnt need makhanda khanda ,uzuma wahluleka ngesikhathi sakhe 9yrz manje ufuna ukubuya back azosicedelela sonke ,problem uzuma unekani ,zuma is not my favorite domkop former president
Kzn Mk party government assembly
Mk Party national wide take 17 parsent vote
is this mngomezulu a real professor or a praise singer
Siyovotela Yona mk nomakanjan😅🎉
Nisazohlupheka njengoba nithanda amasela
Dnt count us , you alone
@@MudziwaCustarhe is counting us
@@nelsonnombo8731ucebile wena kuyimanje?
If Zuma is barred in the National Assembly you will start chaos here in South Africa
A thief can never rule South Africa again,not even Nkandla.
South Africa Zulu people population higher
Too old for politics
Msholozi GO Home and Rest with your family
@@reginamothiba660 He wants girls to see him. He once raped,court found him not quilty. If you see him,ran my girl.
Never Jacob Zuma is a big criminal
Zuma don't want to go to parliament this mk wesisu party he want to use them to fight his case court
Whatever, we voting MK!
MK MK viva
People will honour ZUMA by voting MKP. ANC is wasting its Time
South Africans low work for some but for some is not working money was found in President farm and he said he knew about it but not arrested today is the spicker money is found but not arrested how is this low works
What language can you write correctly? Dont waste your time go back to school and attend extra classes
Zuma knows who is behind all his challenges
WHAT BS ARE YOU TALKIN ABOUT...YOU MEAN FOGING UP THE COUNTRY...N STEALING FROM THE VULNERABLE AND POOR THEN BLAMING APARTHEID...WHAT N S