So, what IS the beauty of go? And, while the basic rules may be easy, they are also fairly abstract, the consequences of them are not clear to novices at all, more often than not they have to be explained in person: if not, the novices just walk away. The video is understood, and liked maybe, by people already playing go, my bet is, that beginners are hardly the wiser about any aspect of the game after seeing it.
I know the game is famously known as GO, but what is the reason of adding Korean Baduk but omit the Chinese Weiqi. Not to mention the game is from China. Maybe that is just me but that just doesnt feel right.
The reason why western community is starting to use "baduk" more is because "Go" presents serious problem regarding it's collision with english language. Hence word "baduk" is getting used more and more by english content creators. I never heard or saw westerners use "weiqi". Probably because it is next to impossible to pronounce properly without training.
This is the first ever documentary about Go. It's called Baduk in Korea, Weiqi in China, and Go in Japan and the rest of the world. The game is 4,000 years old so it's thr oldest continuously played game known to man. The best players who ever lived their level is still low compared to the sheer complexity of the game. The higher level you attain the more you feel it's difficulty.
@@fifimimi6834 not really actually, board games or games resembling checkers were found, but we can't really say they were checkers as we know them nowadays. What we found are forgotten games from ancient civilizations. And the oldest's just a board with no certain rules. They're not one game, the rules, name, board shapes and setups differ from an era to the other. While we can say for sure Go 3000 years ago was the same game as it is now. Only minor adjustments to the rule were made. That's why it's said to be the oldest continuously played.
this is what happens when you have people who as amateurs trained themselves with terrible Japanese go books and only on a seminar basis, maybe, trained with professionals who are also japanese. Their mode of play is incredibly outdated. They can't abandon it. They are fixed in their thinking and cannot be disabused from it. This movie didnt age well either It came out AFTER alphago and yet they still say this drivel about "theres no brute force calculation". Maybe "brute force" has some meaning to a bunch of aging computer programmers, but when lay people outside the game hear this they cannot understand ow to reconcile that against the sheer utter dominance of AI. it may not be calculating "brute force" but it certainly has a 'policy framework' that is similar enough to our own intuition in some sense, but its still calculating more than we can along ANY aspect of the decision tree. The worst thing that could happen to United States Go is alowing people like these to run USGo. Bunch of crusty old white men running this like an amateur not-for-profit, Its why we dont really have a professional organization(what we do have is laughable, compared to Asia, this despite their best efforts to send over genius level talent in both play AND teaching) Our 'professionals' are shite and these guys know it. We dont know how to create systems and we sure as hell dont run them well. But hey, the game is cool.
@@zissler1 computers don't have intuition. What they have are policy frameworks that act like intuition to some degree. But underneath it all is millions of games where moves have been played and then theybassign value to those moves based on when they are played.
I was watching star trek, and I thought it was very funny when there was an episode where troi kicks the shit out of data at chess. She prattles off some of this same nonsense about "intuition". I looked up when the episode came out, it aired in 1993. 2 years before kasparov lost to deep blue. Yeah, these old dudes are not doing the game favors. Let's drum up some stupid ass anal bead drama and start making this game some money 😂
![GO (WEIQI/BADUK): History and How to Play [囲碁/围棋/바둑]](/img/n.gif)
I started playing Go because of this movie
*AlphaGo: hold my beer
Beautiful intro to Go and its enchantment.
Wow, that's way really well made
So, what IS the beauty of go? And, while the basic rules may be easy, they are also fairly abstract, the consequences of them are not clear to novices at all, more often than not they have to be explained in person: if not, the novices just walk away. The video is understood, and liked maybe, by people already playing go, my bet is, that beginners are hardly the wiser about any aspect of the game after seeing it.
Go isn’t a game for beginners
okay? this isnt supposed to be a full introduction to Go, it's literally just a clip from a documentary
Very nice videos :)
the completely filled board is a bit misleading
I know the game is famously known as GO, but what is the reason of adding Korean Baduk but omit the Chinese Weiqi. Not to mention the game is from China. Maybe that is just me but that just doesnt feel right.
The reason why western community is starting to use "baduk" more is because "Go" presents serious problem regarding it's collision with english language. Hence word "baduk" is getting used more and more by english content creators.
I never heard or saw westerners use "weiqi". Probably because it is next to impossible to pronounce properly without training.
Never thought in the western friendly idea, for me was because korea is like top tier in Go nowadays, like Lee Sedol
@@Turtle1631991 'Surround' is the name we should be using...
@@Turtle1631991 it should be called "weiqi" to emphasize its Chinese origins, as Koreans are trying to culturally appropriate a lot of Chinese culture
This is the first ever documentary about Go. It's called Baduk in Korea, Weiqi in China, and Go in Japan and the rest of the world. The game is 4,000 years old so it's thr oldest continuously played game known to man.
The best players who ever lived their level is still low compared to the sheer complexity of the game. The higher level you attain the more you feel it's difficulty.
How many stones do you think the strongest players would need to beat God?
@@SJNaka101 I have no idea. A.I. is the closest we'll get to the God of Go.
Checkers is 5000 years old
@@fifimimi6834 not really actually, board games or games resembling checkers were found, but we can't really say they were checkers as we know them nowadays. What we found are forgotten games from ancient civilizations. And the oldest's just a board with no certain rules. They're not one game, the rules, name, board shapes and setups differ from an era to the other.
While we can say for sure Go 3000 years ago was the same game as it is now. Only minor adjustments to the rule were made. That's why it's said to be the oldest continuously played.
Thanks for the video!
Nice video, someone knows if there is the complete video????
Please read the video description ;-)
Its on DVD called the surrounding game
this is what happens when you have people who as amateurs trained themselves with terrible Japanese go books and only on a seminar basis, maybe, trained with professionals who are also japanese. Their mode of play is incredibly outdated. They can't abandon it. They are fixed in their thinking and cannot be disabused from it.
This movie didnt age well either It came out AFTER alphago and yet they still say this drivel about "theres no brute force calculation". Maybe "brute force" has some meaning to a bunch of aging computer programmers, but when lay people outside the game hear this they cannot understand ow to reconcile that against the sheer utter dominance of AI. it may not be calculating "brute force" but it certainly has a 'policy framework' that is similar enough to our own intuition in some sense, but its still calculating more than we can along ANY aspect of the decision tree.
The worst thing that could happen to United States Go is alowing people like these to run USGo. Bunch of crusty old white men running this like an amateur not-for-profit, Its why we dont really have a professional organization(what we do have is laughable, compared to Asia, this despite their best efforts to send over genius level talent in both play AND teaching)
Our 'professionals' are shite and these guys know it. We dont know how to create systems and we sure as hell dont run them well.
But hey, the game is cool.
alphago uses neural networks to gain something akin to intuition its not brute force.
@@zissler1 computers don't have intuition. What they have are policy frameworks that act like intuition to some degree. But underneath it all is millions of games where moves have been played and then theybassign value to those moves based on when they are played.
I was watching star trek, and I thought it was very funny when there was an episode where troi kicks the shit out of data at chess. She prattles off some of this same nonsense about "intuition". I looked up when the episode came out, it aired in 1993. 2 years before kasparov lost to deep blue.
Yeah, these old dudes are not doing the game favors. Let's drum up some stupid ass anal bead drama and start making this game some money 😂
It's definitely not brute force.
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