Mitsubishi ASX 2WD 4WD LOCK AWD test on snow & ice - RVR / Outlander Sport
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- Опубліковано 9 чер 2024
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This video shows All Wheel Control (AWC) operation in Mitsubishi ASX. The main goal of this presentation is to show the traction differences between 2WD/4WD/LOCK modes, with TCL (TCS) ON & OFF.
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On rollers: • Mitsubishi ASX 4x4 : 2...
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lol what's up with all these negative comments, the guy is testing the performance, honestly i like this car and nice video
+Intrepid Milotic Many people do not understand what is this video about, although it is in description...
The feeling of freedom you get on the trail is unmatched.
This is very neat! At first, I thought it was junk when I saw the front wheels spin like crazy but when I saw the 4wd lock dif, it completely changed the game. Mitsu all the way!!
It's amazing to see such a difference between 4wd auto and lock modes. I owned the Outlander for nearly 4 years and i never noticed such a big difference...
Love these ASX's. When my 2004 RAV4 4wd finally goes down, I will be looking to pickup one of these used of course.
Mate you'll be waiting a long time then😂 them rav 4 never die
Great video. It really explains the differences between 2wd and 4wd and ESP/Traction control ON and OFF. 4wd's are great on snow and ice surfaces and they really makes you to feel safer in those conditions.
I'm getting one this year.
Looks like a good system
Awesome video!!! Help us to understand how awd in various work! We own a Honda Pilot with VTM-4 diff lock and always wondered what it would look like from the outside in such situation. Greatly appreciate your video! Thanks!
Excellent test, very thorough and you can see the differences each mode makes. Too bad you didn't have a Subaru on hand as well, it would have been interesting to compare.
Thats a very good test thank you.
@TZAL69 Yes, Mitsubishi uses their own systems, the name for traction control is TCL, while ESP is called ASC (Active Stability Control)
ooh. ok. thanks for explaining that. I'm looking for a good all season round vehicle. so basically something that si good for summer and winter snow too. that's why I want to look at awd features and other thing like that
Andrius Jonusauskas, that was the point of the test - to see the difference. Gas level was always the same - minimal needed for moving the car with brakes locked by HSA - if you drive ASX you know how it works. And LOCK isn't 50/50, it is also variable, just like 4WD, but with 50% more torque on the rear.
Super filmik!
+tomasz chlipała Witam Mitsumaniaka i zapraszam do oglądania innych testów ASXa na moiom kanale :)
Great video. This tells me all I need to know. Great seeing what the wheels are doing in the different modes.
Sweet!! Traction Control
@buzol157 Dear tire kicker, please read the description carefully. The point of this video was not to move the car by all means, but to show the traction differences. All attempts were done with the same gas level (not much, the surface was extremely slippery), and only LOCK mode moved the car without problems.
@sangolt88 The are no locking differentials in the ASX, the name LOCK is just for the central differential, which in fact is not the differential, but the clutch.
@terenceleo I think they are similar, but AWC is much more complicated (torque distribution is based not only on the wheels slip, but also on the on throttle position, steering wheel position and speed)
I have to add that if someone has any doubts about the tires used in the test - these were new Michelin Alpine A4.
Great video... I am planning to buy ASX this week ... finally after a long wait
Hi I just bought an asx car yesterday and I don’t know how to turn on and off the 4wd etc. Can you please tell me how ? Give me your instagram account.
@@billsteward7306 Use the button (or knob in older models) located near the gear lever.
4x4 tests on rollers - duszaniespokojna channel
Yes but what is the difference between 4wd auto and 4wd lock ???
@@billsteward7306 LOCK is the same as AUTO but multipled by 1,5. LOCK also allows for more wheelspin (wheels can dig in the ground).
Yes correct! My car has good performance so far.... I am loving it ...
Nice video! Could you please try something similar or a roller test with an outlander PHEV? Thanks
I will do that if I only get some PHEV!
Super test dzięki
k14772 Dzięki, zapraszam do subskrybowania kanału i do dołączenia do mnie na Facebooku :-)
Zrób kiedys porownanie ix35/cr-v lll /
As long as it on the wheels, it will be going, even without switching into Lock. Unfortunately ground clearance for diesel version is just 170mm and that is the biggest disadvantage.
@Elsoddo If you mean TCL, that is traction control.
TLC is some girlsband... ;)
Winter tyres - Michelin Alpine A4
i am thinking of buying one of them ,but dont fancy diesel cars ,not sure if they sell petrol ASX 4x4 version here in UK.Nice video thanks for uploading it
There was great diesel in ASX - their own 1.8 - later on replaced by French 1.6
nice video
im wondering, I got a Mitsubishi Lancer SED AWC 2012.. is the 4wd system on the ASX/RVR the same on the lancer? - my lancer also has a 2wd/4wd/lock switch
sweet car, i'm tryen to buy one. problem is that in europe they only make an manual gearbox. nice vid btw
duszaniespokojna, Very nice test, i am searching for any video about asx's 4wd test on roller's, like the subaru test can you help me? thanks.
good video
Well traction control doesn't actually do that, what it does is close the throttle plates if the ABS sensors detect wheelspin, what applies the brakes to spinning wheels in this case is mitsubichi's active skid control, but both TCS and and ASC are included in TCL
Indeed, with four wheels on ice, TCL helps only in 2WD mode. Furthermore, Hill Assist is not allowing to start 'gently' - in this case that is not helping at all (in other situations Hill Assist is great). I wonder how TCL would operate e.g. with two wheels on ice and two wheels on tarmac - hoping to make such test soon.
Genialne! 1:40 żeby pokazać zalety przycisku na konsoli środkowej!
Proszę żeby Mitsubishi Motors Polska jakoś wynagrodziło Pana, za tak prostą a jakże wspaniałą prezentacje zalet napędu! Pozdrawiam! :)
Bardzo dobry pomysł, zobaczymy co na to MMP ;)
vavoom więcej takich proszę
swiromir Proszę bardzo:
Mitsubishi ASX 2WD 4WD LOCK AWD test on rollers
+Bajkier jest odpowiedz od glownego bossa, bedzie laseczka
wystarczy, że suzuki to robi. ;-) nie da się mieć dwóch sponsorów z tej samej branży bo się rodzi konflikt interesów ;-)
@RobertoPerizzolo
so is it a good car to buy ?
If there is the same switch, then I think that technically it is exactly the same system, the difference may be just in software because of different wheelbase and weight (like in Outlander and Delica - the same system, but with different software)
cool I like how you showed different stages for a good comparison. I'm kind of a noob when it comes to car tech. Do you mind telling me what TCL is? and why is it good/ad to have it on/off? Like why did you on/off it? is better to be on/off?
giggi4455 TCL off when 4x4 lock is on, to prevent loss of traction thus enabling wheels to keep spinning more instead of cutting power to each wheel. Sometimes it helps for wheel spin a bit if conditions are shocking. Its just another tool in the box to use if youre in bad location.
An real life test. Very good. I am thinking to buy a used one 2011 model 18.t diesel 4x4 any common issues with these cars? If anyone could answer would help. I have a honda jazz from 2008 absolutely zero issue's. Is the asx similar story? Are 150.000km much for the 1.8T engine?
I had this car for 5 years, over 150 000 kilometres. Almost no problems, I only had to put new crankshaft seal. Unfortunately I don't know if it is that good when it gets a little bit older.
Thank you for this video, even though it is 10 years old it is still relevant. And it explains the differences in the handling modes perfectly. You have chosen the kind of road (steep hill, rain, slight snow and subzero temperatures in the night), that I have to drive daily in the winter. I'm kinda considering buying a 2016 model of this car, would you recommend it?
What engine are you considering?
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers I am looking at "2.2 DI-D", "2016", I don't know a lot about engines, only the basics...
@@matejmahkovic That's the most powerful version of ASX 🙂 4N14 is a very good engine, made by Mitsubishi itself, unfortunately quite complicated due to variable valve timing. Of course you have to check the history, diesel repairs are not cheap. But if you get good one - that's a beast 🙂
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers 1.8 150hp ASX it's ok ? Your opinion about suzuki asx 1.9d 120 ? Qashqai 2.0dci ? Thx
@@mangreek9975 I had ASX 1.8 150 hp for five years, it was great. If you ask about Grand Vitara 1.9 diesel - no, take some different engine. Qashqai 2.0 dCi - I have no experience.
good car
My father has a 09 Outlander, also with the 2WD, 4WD Auto, 4WD LOCK switch.
2WD is self explanatory; 4WD Auto is FF-biased with start-up with some power to rear but will progressively engage rear-axle upon slip. Usually optimal for rain & snow. 4WD Lock according to the manual starts off 40/60 Front:Rear variable but never less than 50/50 (as Vavoom stated, rear axle in Lock mode always has >= power of front axle)
The Lock mode sounds gimmicky, but I guarantee it does get the Outlander out of knee-high levels of snow. When the roads are unplowed, the difference 4WD auto & 4WD Lock is staggeringly noticeable. However, Outlander & RVR lacks LSDs (except Outlander fitted with S-AWC) so it will not pass the 'diagonal test'...
Everything is correct, however, according to Mitsubishi, there are some differences between ASX (RVR) and Outlander:
A major design upgrade over the Outlander's 4WD system has been a recalibration of the systems control unit that has led to a variety of improvements including enhanced fuel economy, stability in 4WD mode, improved traction and steering feel when accelerating from a standstill.
ford explorer 2000 4x4 hood deep snow... Im serious that what sick last winter here in canada.... Any idea if it a locked awd and % wise?
Did you have summer or winter tyres on it?
a jaka skrzynia biegow? automat??
I have a 2WD one of these, If you floor it it will spin 147bhp, if you pull off sensably it drives perfect in the snow. I have even pulled other cars out of the snow in my 2WD
@elefantvs Poor. Btw, these are Michelin Alpine A4.
Man that sounds like diesel and that alone had me sold...
I'm not sure what you mean. That is diesel but it has very nice characteristics due to variable valve timing, quite close to petrol engines.
Hi, your videos are quite old. I am planning to buy the ASX 4wd. Will it be the same performance?
There are new videos, there are old videos. This one is the oldest. What production year of ASX are you planning to buy?
Bardzo ciekawy test!Wiele zobrazował...,ja cały czas sie waham pomiędzy zakupem Kia i ASX ale teraz dostrzegam róznicę.Nie sądziłem ze będzie az taka pomiędzy auto 4x4, a napędem Lock 50/50% Dzięki za test pozdrawiam!
W tym konkretnym przypadku, start w trybie 4WD to przypuszczalnie rozdział momentu w proporcjach ok. 75/25, przednia oś traci przyczepność, zostaje zblokowana z tylną, ale jest już "za późno"... W trybie LOCK rozdział przypuszczalnie wynosi 55/45 i to jak widać robi ogromną różnicę. Pozdrawiam :)
pollack31 Zapraszam także do obejrzenia testu:
Mitsubishi ASX 2WD 4WD LOCK AWD test on rollers
That is not laboratory test... Angle of a hill is also different with every meter of road... Anyway, it is becoming more slippery with every wheel spin, so that just proves efficiency of Lock mode.
hi friend how cvt transmission works now have it any problems after these snow? i want to buy this car but everyone says cvt are very bad
Hello, I have no idea, mine was manual.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers thank you very much
TCL - what does it mean and what is the difference between on and off in practice?
+f2lo2 TCL - traction control. Check my tests on rollers, compare the ones below 15 km/h and more than 15 km/h,and you will see the difference :)
i have the same problem, i want an automatic but its coming in 2012 i think...
It is not totally "dead", probably because of variable valve timing, however fast accelerating e.g. from 1300 r.p.m is not possible, you have to reach at least 1500 r.p.m. Turbo starts at about 1700 r.p.m and then it's massive. I think, although it's diesel, this engine was not designed to drive at low r.p.m. (at 100 km/h at 6th gear that is 2000 r.p.m.)
What year is your car?
Is it and Bad for the diff to go in corners with lock?
Nope, you can do it in ASX. There's no center diff but a clutch pack.
Unfortunately there is no Mitsubishi test on the rollers, which in fact would be traction control test, not 4WD itself. I hope this summer I will have some possibility to make this kind of test.
Now there is and they still seem to have problem coping with TCL. ua-cam.com/video/Oo-FjnIfZAQ/v-deo.html
Compare to this, showing how it should work: ua-cam.com/video/c2ScHaitFSY/v-deo.html
+Xanthopteryx You should check movies on my channel ;)
cool
@whispanic Made in 2010
TCL stands for traction control, because car have open differential if one wheel slips all engine power goes to that wheel which is bad in conditions such as this one. what TCL does is apply break on the free spinning wheel so the wheels which have traction gets power, otherwise you would be stuck (its actually trying to do what diff-locker does). in these conditions is good to have it on. you turn it off in conditions like deep soft mud/snow/sand, because here you dont want TCL to apply breaks
no problem, any car with awd will be good for summer and winter, SUVs give you another posibility that if u wanna go light offroad you have decent clearance and can lock central differential (4wd lock) which is going to be enough (with TCL) to get through 90% situations. those remaining 10% is for toughest offroaders - but then again toughest offroaders dont give good luxury like SUVs such as this one - (or they do but you need to pay a lot more money to get both) and you can always go around
what you say is function of ESP (cut the throttle) among other things. every manufacturer calls it differently. dont get me wrong, you are correct. but i tried to explain it as simple as i could for some1 to understand. 500 characters is not enough to explain something that entire book can be written about. after all this is youtube and not "car forum", and i think the guy got the picture ;) cheers
what is tlc you mean traction control?
I just bought used outlander 2009. Can someone explain why do the rare wheel spin if I keep it in 2wd, when I put them in the mud. I was just doing some tests and I am confuse. Is it something wrong? Thanks,..
Do they spin right from the beginning or after some time of wheelspin?
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Not sure, I think they need a second or two, I will make another test and report...
@@tifthetif6567 That's important. If it is right away then clutch-pack may be broken (squeezed or locked). If there is some delay then it may be some electric matter. Try to connect some OBD and check the fault codes.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Thanks, I'll do
Can someone please enlighten me with what TLC means?
@duszaniespokojna Whoops. Thanks : )
I'm driving ASX. This test is unfair. - almost all times - driver tries to spin the wheels. Difference between 4WD and Lock - Lock has 50/50 distribution between front and rear axle, whileWD mode - depends on situation - variable.
всё верно :)
Yes, indeed that is disapointing... On the other hand, this is not an offroad car at all, traction control is not as aggressive like e.g. in Pajero. With four wheels on the ground, it is doing its job.
You don't need TCL if you have good grip on all four wheel. This is how it should work: ua-cam.com/video/hrcfA1BvRu8/v-deo.html
That was not the point of this video to move the car by all means... All is in description. Besides there was too slippery to move it in 2WD mode, especially with Hill Assist which is not helpful in such conditions...
Typos below.... various "drive modes" work.....
@Elsoddo Tender Loving Care ;-P
There are really icy conditions needed to feel this difference - when you gently push acceleration pedal in 4WD mode, the car starts probably about 75% front and 25% rear (then it goes to 50/50 when wheels slippage occurs). If you do the same in LOCK mode, then there is probably about 55% front and 45% rear - and that makes a huge difference in such case.
How can you turn on/off TCL?
I don't remember... ESP could be turned off but I am not sure about traction control...
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers I got the 2015 version 4x4 but it does not have a TCL button and I can't find any information about on the internet. Maybe you can turn on/off from software or it is always turned on.
@@stexiati1 That's weird. Mine was from 2010 and it had the button just above the knee on the left side of steering wheel.
oh yea, and there was no mention here about ESP part, but things are confusing these days for ppl who dont understand much about "diff-locks". esp, tsc, tcl, ebd, diff-lock etc etc. lets keep things simple here. who wants to know more -> google is your friend. sorry for bad english
Very nice video and great demonstration of 2wd and 4wd. I however am not a Mitsubishi guy, I'm hoping to have a Subaru as my next car. Still, very nice video, 10/10
Hmm... Hadn't really considered this car, but not bad... not bad at all... Looks quite similar to the Q3, shape-wise, don't you think...
do you call this car
I rather call my friends etc., not cars...
Learn English first, then read the description, then use your brain if you have one, and then you may comment.
In general this should be the motto of youtube to be printed under their logo.
Easy on the throtle and he could have moved the car in 2wd mode
Rzeszów ;)
Tu akurat Przylasek 🙂
it has 3D!
@buzol157 I see you still didn't get it... Whatever. Yes, completely pointless, not the test, but the discussion.
acelera mucho por eso patina
Acceleration minimal required by hill start assist.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Can the hill start assist be disabled by a button or in the car settings? (anyone that has driven up steep icy and snowy roads will understand my question).
@@matejmahkovic Unfortunately no, it's always on... And sometimes that's the problem...
Those must have been trash tires / not winter rated...
Premium winter tyres - Michelin Alpine A4. That was really steep hill, camera doesn't show it.
is that a diesel?
Yes, 1.8
The TC didn't seem to work well at all. This is more how it should behave: ua-cam.com/video/hrcfA1BvRu8/v-deo.html
+Xanthopteryx This is how it works in ASX from 2010. It allows for quite a lot of wheel spin.
duszaniespokojna Seems like they have to improve it. Then you shouldn't have to lock.
+Xanthopteryx Not necessary. There are some conditions, especially offroad, when wheel spin is needed, otherwise you will get stuck. I think that is designed to work this way in Mitsubishi, especially that lock mode allows for more wheel spin than 4wd mode.
But then you should have that function in the lock mode or have a button for "TCL with more spinning", and not in the other modes since the car obviously is used a lot on the road. It's a bad system in fact. A modern car that can't handle that kind of slippery, even in AWD mode is pretty useless.
+Xanthopteryx In ASX from 2010 TCL didn't work efficiently below 15 km/h. In newer models (Outlander, Eclipse Cross) it is faster, but still allows for wheel spin. Not good on ice, very good on snow. However you are right that driver should have a choice what kind of TCL operation he wants to use (like it is in e.g. Suzuki's All Grip Select system, where driving modes changes operation of traction control).
Is that diesel engine?? 🤔
Yes, 1.8 DiD
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Hence the tractor noice 😅. Here in Kuwait, we only get the 2L,4 cly, petrol version putting around 150 HP.. It's an absolute fun daily driver.
@@LeRiderOP In Europe we had petrol 1.6 & 2.0 and diesel 1.6 (from PSA), 1.8 and 2.2
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers That's great, you got different trim options. I hope to drive the 4 x 4 asx one day. Here Mitsubishi offers only outlander and Pajero ( discontinued) in 4 x 4.
Dear Driver you are driving at the same strip which has had wheel spin. So the test is not accurate. For checking every option you need to start afresh on new area of road where no wheels have slipped before.
This is why you have TCL, but on this car that system doesn't seem to work very well.
*SE*
Manualna.
Hol talalhato
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Not a good day to be out driving
4wd never makes stopping better
на переднем приводе мог проехать
Imagine if he knew how to drive? He'd put it 4 wheel drive and be fine. Putting the pedal to the floor doesn't help.
Imagine if you knew what is going on here... Video is not about driving abilities but about the difference between the modes. And there's no pedal to the floor, it's the minimum needed to move the car which is hold by brakes on the hill.
@4x4.tests.on.rollers I guess that's my bad for having something on to listen to while working. I'm barely paying attention. I looked over and I'm like, "what an idiot" . My bad, thanks.
@@joeb2588No problem. And by the way - Hill Start Assist system was too strong in this car, there was no way to start gently on the hill, it was stalling the engine.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers i was looking into a new outlander sport with the 2.4. Both these engines are really reliable. They've been around a long time.
La mia panda 4x4 va meglio!
Check the channel in a few hours - Panda Cross 4x4 coming.
U dont have proper tires for that shit
@geald Gonsalves Michelin Alpine A4.
Nice video, bad car
Igor Why bad?
He does not how to drive you do not gun down the pedal on a hill you put it on low and
Start normally!!!
+4555joe I see you completely missed the point of this video. Read the description first, then comment.
Point of this video is to SHOW DIFFERENCES BETWEEN DRIVING MODES, not to show how to start the car on icy hill.
Furthermore - have you ever heard about Hill Start Asist? Probably not. Read.
Then take some ASX and try start gently when breaks are blocking the wheels.
If you do it your way - you will stall the engine.
That is why you have TCL, but on this car that system doesn't seem to work so well.