2 Minute Moto - Do I Need To Retune My Bike?
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- 2 Minute Lessons - Do I Need To Retune My Bike?
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Modifying motorcycles can be tons of fun. Actually tuning them to run perfectly? Not so much. Lemmy’s here to help you decide whether or not you need to retune your bike. Once you’ve made a decision, head over to RevZilla.com to learn more about specific tuning solutions for your ride. - Авто та транспорт
Answered the question of retuning required for K&N Hi Flow air filter: No.
And in under three minutes.
Saved me much needed time.
Thanks
Good job, I modified air intake and pipes on Indian Chieftain'18, didn't do tune, since I don't want to gain lousy 10 hp, I get much better fuel consumption, and engine works absolutely smooth.
I'm loving these two minute lessons!
On my 2018 Iron 1200 I just did slip-ons... I think the bike was run so lean for emissions from factory that a tune is necessary.. To me, looking down the pipes I took off and the pipes I put on, it seems totally fair to think yeahh this needs adjustment. Then again, I treat my bike like I love it without guessing! U guys rock RevZ! Thanks as always I'll be ordering my FP3 today!
Thank you very much for this video. It was very informative. I just bought my first bike....2023 Indian Scout Rogue, and I installed Handmo slip ons. A couple people told me that it would start running lean and a tune was a must. I don't wanna park my bike before i can get it tuned. You put my mind at ease. I may still get a tune, but now i can still ride until the shop can fit me in. Thank you again.
This guy is the only guy I trust with advice.
Look bro, I just want my sportster to be a little louder without spending a thousand dollars lol
Sporster... Lol
Alpaca Joe 2 wheels is 2 wheels bud
Same here lol
Get some Vance and hines slip ones lol
I head you could but you won’t get 100 without an ECU
Thank you for this video, answered my question. Just added a K&N filter to an otherwise stock Tiger 955, wasn't sure if I'd need a re-tune.
When I changed the mufflers(To Firebrand Loose Cannon) on my 18 Custom 1200(HD) it ran fine. Just a little Popping on Deceleration. When I installed the Arlen Ness Stage 1 Intake, Also did the FP3. Called V&H for the correct map to use. They had one Close to my setup. Runs fine.
Than you for posting this information.
We will call this one the “Lemmy undercover video” . It was titled tire plug or patch a tire lol. Anyway I live in California and run Cobra slip ons which are for racing only on all my bikes. I did a stage 1 upgrade high flow air and remap. Yes it is all illegal according to epa guidelines but it doesn’t effect my warranties.
Watching this in 2022 and love it very simple to understand short video totally love it .
Answered my question in a minute and a half without a bunch of bs, thank you!
I still have my cat in but have dna megaphone slipons an took the packing out an no need for a tune an it sounds good
I have watched a few of ur videos on exhausts. I've learned more than I thought. I would appreciate a suggestion on a full exhaust system for my 2017 Ducati 959 panigale. I bought it new and now it's time for a new exhaust. And suggestions of a good system would help. I've looked at so many my brain went to overload
Miss this guy. 😢 great info
Lol, I read the thumbnail but not the title, I was expecting a "Plug or patch a tyre" video.
Myles Prower I did too. I was really confused when I heard tuning stuff.
So my main question is if I pull the baffles out of my 2017 HD Breakout (103cid) do I need a retune? Keeping all else stock, just pulling baffles.
Breakin' the Law! Breakin' the Law! With my Power Commander III
Well you answered my question, I have a 2020 scout bobber and wanted some aftermarket slipons to make it louder. I was worried I’d have to shell out more $$ to take it somewhere to tune it. Thanks!
You should, those slip ons are filled with a mesh webbing and changes the fuel ratio big time.
@@RBRM3 dang, I get mixed answers from several people. Most people, including Indian, say slipons do not affect air and gas mix because I have the stock air filter. I would like for someone on UA-cam to get it dynos before and after replacing the exhaust to see any gains or losses, running too lean or not etc
@@stogie0608 be nice, I ran slip ons on a CBR and I lost 8 on my top speed because I didn't change the ratio, but it didn't make it miss, on a Harley, going from something that actually is filled full of stuff, going to something practically wide open will make enough of a difference to start frying parts.
If your slip on matches the internal style of the factory one then you will be ok, otherwise if it's just gutted, I would spend the money.
I have the stock air filter still and my bike thinks both o2 sensors are out, so you definitely don't need to change the intake to have to change the air/fuel ratio.
Thanks for the info!!!!!!!!! Awesome!!!!!!
This was helpful! What if i literally just take off my stock mufflers and leave the stock pipes. Do i need to tune it?
I got a Vulcan s a few months back it’s obv very quiet. I’ve been thinking about getting a tune and a full delkevic system. I don’t want to void my warranty though? The thing is slip-ons arent appealing to me either so idk
Where I live dynos are quite rare. Closest one to me was an hour and a half away on terrible roads and highways. Got a full ECU rework of my brand-new 750 and road it home while noticing the little differences. Car pulled out in front of me 20 minutes from home. First motorvehicle accident ever. Knocked the wind out of me and was sore for a few days, but I still road home on my half smashed bike. Ran pretty well. Little wary of doing more upgrades :*(
Wow thats crazy. Was that your first bike?
Had my first wreck couple weeks ago after I put new plastics and exhaust on my CBR 1000. Totaled my bike. I’m done w overhauls lol
Solo was my 2nd bike, still have it. Went from a Ninja 300 to a GSXR 750. The EMTs that showed up said they were talking about GSXRs when they got the call and they happened to be in my town prior to showing up at the accident lol.
I have a fuel injected scooter. Used to have an airbox but changed to a pod filter recently. No modifications done to the engine nor exhaust. Do i need to retune ?
I have a "10 Fatboy with Vance and Hines slip on exhaust, can I remove the baffles without the need to be retuned even if it was retuned after install?
What about 3/4 exhaust ? Or an exhaust that removes the catalytic converters ?? I noticed my motorcycle o2 sensors are between the headers and the cats.
I just installed a Vance and Hines slip on exhaust and plant to add the Vance and Hines VO2 naked intake. Do you recommend a ECU re flash or tuner?
So if you choose to change both, the air filter and just a slip on and not the whole exhaust system, then you should retune? If so, does that also apply to the Honda Monkey?
Would a cbr250r need a retune with just a slip on shorty since the cat is in the stock muffler?
I have a 2 into 1 not baffled pipe. It was tuned that way. If I wanted to change the exhaust does the baffle need to be out as well since the bike was tuned that way ?
I heard something interesting about new triumphs… when you change the exhaust, start the bike and let it idle for exactly 15 minutes and turn it off. The next time you ride the ecu will self learn and adjust to the new exhaust. Have you heard of such a thing? I was actually told that by a dealer…
I've had fuel tuners on my last couple stock bikes. Not for power, as they both had big, strong inlines to begin with. I got them to quell the jerky on/off throttle response.
On my FJR I got some results, but not stellar. It did seem pokier (and louder) in the midrange, but on/off fueling was still more abrupt than I like. On my Versys it worked well. I don't notice any power difference thru the rest of the band, but fueling on/off throttle is great now.
I have 2020 Road Glide with Vance and Hines slip ons. If I change the cleaner myself would it be safe to ride the bike to the dealer for them to tune it?
Hi I had only replaced air filter on my Harley 48 2021. Do I need to tune my bike?
Ive got new exhaust and custom filter on my sportster should i tune it?
Great Video Lemmy... Very informative... but where is the May Redline and the April Redline bike test.. M
There isn't a Redline for May, but it will return for June. Here is April's Redline. -DrewZilla
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Question for anyone really, I have an 05 Electra glide 88tc just installed a vo2 cagefighter air filter and I have longshots can I run the super q baffles in the exhaust or run the standard baffles? Also what would be a recommended tune for either setup? Thanks.
Would this cause my bike to bog and smoke the exhaust if I got the new exhaust and not retune
I have a HD street bob stock and I have open headers and a heavy breather elite would i need a tune
Hey guys... just bought a used FZ-07 from a dealership who installed a stock exhaust after taken out the aftermarket exhaust from prior owner. I am picking up the bike on Wednesday. Will I need a retune now that the bike is back to stock? It didn’t occur to ask the dealer and on the work sheet there was no mention of a reflash or retune.
Really not knowledgeable about these things.Thanks!
Lem clearly loves the Priest
My 2017 sportster 48 doesn’t like the Fuelpak. It ran like crap. Put the basic map back on it. Now it is running better. Running Vanes short shots and vanes air cleaner.
Ive got a gsxr 750 ive got a slip on bit i wanna delete the cat and put a k&n filter will it be necessary to remap the ecu?
One thing not addressed. Do you have to tune the bike if you get another oem muffler put on?
Lemster! It’s been a while!
I got fullsystem and already flash tune i wanna change my slip on do i need to retune??
Is it possible to get much more out of most BMWs? I've got a '14 R1200GS and I will admit I wouldn't mind if having just a bit more kick, or noise.
Will there be no more new gear for the month/Redline videos, or are you all just skipping this month? You make great free content, and I miss it when it’s not there. Also, is a review of the HJC RPHA 90 coming soon?
The Redline will be back for June. Also, yes, there will be an RPHA 90 review coming soon. -DrewZilla
Hi if you change exhaust Do I need to retune? I mean I get dyno before with akrapovic megaphone then I’m planning to change my exhaust to hootbodies mgp
I have a bandit gsf600s I’m gonna y pipe at the bottom and run dual exhaust 🤷♂️ you think I’ll haft to tune my carbs
Help! I just changed a full exhaust on a k4 Gsx-R. Headers, midpipe and slip on. But it seems to run and drive perfect! No weak spots down the rev-range. The previous owner had a aftermarket slip on aswell, but it seems to run better than with that slip on only. Is it really necessary to tune it? Because it's quite expensive
If you just put on a set of V&H short shots and stay with the stock AC an auto tune is not necessary it won’t damage your engine.
Your Welcome.
based off what experience? not attacking you but I've installed short shots and S&S air cleaner but the vance and Hines fuelpak fp3 I have doesn't work and I want to ride it before my scheduled time to take it into Harley dealer
Ryan Pragnell Based off of the experience of my local shop
If it were going to damage the engine they would have no vested interest in telling customers you don’t have to do a tune on a bike that you just put V&H pipes on because if that damaged the motor there would be allot of angry people coming back to that shop raising all kinds of heck over
The stealership just wants to charge you more money
That being said I believe that a tune will make it run better.
Hi about instaling full exhaust system do you really need to remap/tune the ecu? My bike is r3 iheard pop pop pop every time my rpm is 6k up when i let go the gas pop pop pop
Hi about instaling full exhaust system do you really need to remap/tune the ecu? My bike is r3 iheard pop pop pop every time my rpm is 6k up when i let go the gas pop pop pop
Soo if I’m not mistaken slipper exhaust not much need to tune ?
2019 sportster 1200, Slip ons added, I have a new intake filter assembly as well to put on. Do I have to tune the bike now? Or can I ride it with no real issues adding those parts? Grapevine of folks say must tune or engine damage!
Did you ever figure this out because I’m dealing with the same thing just the slip ons tho
Do motorbikes have oxygen sensors, and mass air flow sensors?
If I install a TBR exhaust on my Softail without a dynojet and I ride it for a lil while before I install the dyno will it harm the engine or affect it in any way?
I have full yoshimura rs2 exhaust system on my Drz400 2019 . Do i need to remap?
Well the DRZ400 has a carburetor, so there's no fuel map to actually 'remap'. Instead, you probably do need to tune and possibly rejet your carburetor if it's running lean right now. -DrewZilla
Closest dyno is like an hour away and not sure if reputable.. if I modify my exhaust like remove the cat, should I use a power commander or maybe purchase some sort of reflashed ECU?? 2006 GSXR 600
Yes, if you remove the cat, you'll want a power commander, ECU reflash, or dyno tune. -DrewZilla
How do you know if the carb is running lean or rich?
kiraanimerawr1 reading spark plugs and heat
When I get my 2020 r6 I’m getting a full exhaust system for it. What do I need to do after that to tune it? Dyno or ecu flash
The easiest option is to get a fuel tuner, e.g. Power Commander V, download the proper fuel map for your new exhaust, and install the Power Commander on the bike (the 2020 model is the same as 2017-2019). Alternately, you could pay for a dyno tune or get the ECU flashed. -DrewZilla
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I’d like to install the v&h widow slip-ons on my ‘17 HD nightrod special, would it be ok to just put on the mufflers ? Or should i do some tuning ?
With just slip-ons, you don't need to do any tuning. If you later add an aftermarket air cleaner or install a full exhaust, then you should do some tuning. Hope this helps! (bit.ly/30pyL6O) -DrewZilla
Lemmy I'm looking at a used 2019 z900 with a full aftermarket exhaust and I'm not sure if it's been tuned. How can I tell? What would it cost? Is it safe to run without a retune?
If it pops a whole lot on deceleration, it may not have been tuned. Also, if the throttle response feels sluggish, it may not have been tuned. One way to tell is to ask the seller or look to see if a fuel tuner has also been installed. A retune/dyno can cost a couple hundred dollars, but a fuel tuner is about the same. -DrewZilla
I don't understand why with just slip-ons there is no need for tuning, while with a full exhaust it should be tuned. I'd love to put a couple of V&H Shortshots on my Ironhead 2019. And actually I'd love to also change the AC because the stock one looks awful on the black bike. Could I go ahead just with the Shortshots without tuning?
no and dont run short shots your making it run worse than stock pipes
If you already re tuned your bike when you got a new air cleaner do you have to re tune again when you add a new exhaust system or was once enough?
Great question.
You typically should re-tune the bike whenever you make a drastic change to the intake or exhaust.
That said, if you just changed to a new slip-on you can typically get by without a new tune. However, a full exhaust swap definitely will benefit from a more tailored tune.
I hope that helps!
-Zack
I have an MT03 with a full system Yoshimura exhaust system, would a power commander actually do anything to help the Air/fuel ratio, or do I need a Dyno tune?
Power Commander would be good, no need for dyno tune unless you want to
After mod installation and initial tune, do I have to retune after a certain amount of time or mileage?
No
I had bought an exhaust on my gy6(1P39QMB) 50cc moped and it was working fine the first 2hours then it started bogging/sputtering. I heard I need to retune, what would be my best option ?
Just bought a 2021 rebel 500 and i want more power and sound out of it. Any suggestions on getting the HP from 46 to the 60 range and torque from 33 to the 50 range. Bike weighs 414lbs soaking wet with a full tank so modding it to those numbers would make it incredible lol curious if this is possible and if so where can i bring it to have this done? Hopefully less than 2 grand
With my experience with a friend owning a rebel 500, he didn't own the bike long enough to justify spending money on it modifying it. You will eventually want something faster, as a rebel 500 is a pretty beginning bike. I'd save the money for a different bike rather than putting minds on it.
(I've only recently started riding btw), and I have a question lol, can I ride a bike up a hill? if I can how steep and also whats the best bikes oriented for that?....any reply would be helpful...im more about cruisers.
Yes, you can definitely ride a motorcycle up a hill. You can ride a cruiser on the same steep roads that cars can drive on. -DrewZilla
Sorry for sounding like a idiot, i literally only started riding last week
Ride safe
Slipon dont require fuel tune - unless you have 2 stroke since they have backwash thing going on- whatever comes out of pipe 4 stroke it's already done deal
I have a 2019 Suzuki rmz250, thinking about getting a slip on FMF muffler will I need to remap
For just a slip-on, you don't need to retune. -DrewZilla
do I need to tune my bike after cutting my baffles short?
Have a problem with my engine knocking.
Is it possible that the ECU programming cause the engine to start knocking ?
Is it possible that the factory mapping could become corrupt or partially corrupt and cause engine knocking ?
Thank you !
Lem would never bend the law, now that other guy, he is a bit shady. Cheers
Guys help me out here. Gonna have a cbr650r 2022. Want to put a decat (not full system) austin racing gp1r exhaust on it. Do I need to tune it or remap it? On their site it says I dont have to but im scared I'll fuck up something. Even tho I would prefer not to remap it
I saw an oxygen sensor manipulator "piggyback" system on the web which allow riders to control afr manually (across the whole rev range), will it suffice as an alternative to a tune or do I still need a proper ECU remap? Thanks
dont ever run a piggyback tuner shit will destroy your ecm over time
Is there any plans on a revzilla phone app to order gear on instead of just the website? Would be alot more convenient. I think people would like it
There's always a possibility. -DrewZilla
Ive got a 2015 street glide and im kicking around the idea of straight fish tail slip ons on the stock headpipes and stock breather do i need to remap or would it be fine
If you keep the stock headers and stock air cleaner, you should be fine keeping the stock tune. -DrewZilla
Do a tuner review for HD bikes.
We have. Take a look at a few below. Hope this helps! -DrewZilla
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I have a completely stock 2015 street bob. Do I need a retune or will I suffer damaging my engine if I run a K&N cold air intake on my bike without any other modifications?
If you run an intake without any other modifications, you should be fine. However, if you're installing the intake to try to improve power, then you'll want to retune your bike to match the increased airflow. -DrewZilla
quick question: I've just received a replacement of a faulty FP3, do i install it as a new FP? Do I have to marry it again to my bike and tune over again? Can I marry it to a different bike? I am considering of changing my bike and was thinking of using it on a different one. Cheers
You may want to reach out to Vance & Hines via www.vanceandhines.com for more specific tech support questions for the FP3 and how VIN marrying works, but if you received a new replacement for a previously defective device, this is typically a brand new device which will require you to start from scratch and is usable on one (and only one ever!) motorcycle which is not required to be the one your original device was connected to. -DM
I'm not trying to spend $500 on the fuel pack made by V&H!
My front is now missing and thinks the O2 is out on my Roadster though!
Apparently I can run diagnostics with the info button/kill switch, there was my fun fact for the day from HD!
You might not respond but I’m going to ask anyway. If I buy a yoshimura SLIP ON for my 2010 RM-Z250 would I need a tuner? Thanks in advance!
If you just buy a slip-on, then you generally don't need a tuner. Once you go to a full exhaust, then you generally need a tuner. -DrewZilla
I have Vance and Hines slip ons ,14 street glide. Do I need tuner thank you
If you have a stock air cleaner, then you don't absolutely need a tuner with slip-ons. A tuner can help, sure, but it's not necessary. Once you add an aftermarket air cleaner in addition to slip-ons, or you install a full system exhaust, then you would definitely need a tuner. -DrewZilla
Hi if I have put a slip on and a K&N air filter on my suzuki gsx s1000 2016 do I need a tune?
What bike would be best for someone who’s only ‘5”4 and a first time rider?
Take a look at the Honda Rebel. -DrewZilla
If I were to have 2020 Yamaha Bolt with a Vance and Hines twin slasher exhaust with a Vance and Hines VO2 naked air intake, would I need to retune?
You would definitely want to re-tune the bike if you change the air cleaner, even if you left the stock exhaust on.
-Zack
I have a Yamaha mt07, I just installed a full system on it, Do I need yo retune? Or what are My options?
You don't need to. But your motorcycle will run better with a flash
Can I change a chain drive to a belt?
Generally no, you cannot. The bike has to be designed for using a belt drive. -DrewZilla
Im conflicted and pissed off all at once. I purchased a 2018 48 with vance and hines short shots and a s&s breather and was told it was tuned by the dealership. The bike runs awesome and I never questioned it, but come to find out it has never been tuned.
1. I officially am done with that dealership and they just lost a life long customer. I would have still bought it had I known it wasn't tuned but I hate being lied to and I could literally hear his voice shake when the owner told me it wasn't tuned. I was going to order cams and I am glad I didn't because it would have been a shit show on an untuned bike (I know it would have to be retuned anyways but still a waste of money to do cams when it hasn't even been tuned)
2. Like I said it runs amazing and I am actually scared to fuck with the tune because of how it runs, I am thinking on a power vision or an fp3. Again, I am conflicted lol
i had cobra slips without baffles on my 2008 road glide when i bought, i then put screaming eagles slip ons on it, now i have very little power. what do i need to do? any help out there.
You should probably take it to a mechanic or a dyno testing location. That would be the best area to diagnose any issues with where the power is being lost. If you have any other questions or concerns, please feel free to reach out to our Gear Geeks at 877.792.9455 or CS@revzilla.com! Ride safe, -Pat
RevZilla , sounds like a plan. Thanks for the insight, I really don’t like knowing why my wheels aren’t running right, it is a big deal to me, since I got my road glide back in 2011 when I retired from the Army. I’ll keep it as long as I am able
Hi there
CAUTION!
I my local dealer return my bike.
And now my speedo wouldn't display gear selection .
What if i add a TBR slip on to a rebel 300? No other mods to it. Would it need a retune? Would I be harming anything?
For just a slip-on, no, you don't need to retune, and you won't be harming anything. -DrewZilla
RevZilla ok just checking because it does delete the cat as well
damm x was trying to get a motorcycle 😔
Something isn't making sense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
so he said manufacturers care about getting through emission regulation (by practically making the fuel/air mixture lean),
and it is ok to go with a slip-on or high-airflow muffler which makes it even more leaner.
A QUESTION: wont such high airflow mufflers drive the fuel air mixture beyond the limit of a healthy lean mixture?
Hello, sit. it is ok if i install Yoshimura ALPHA T slip on exhaust on my Ninja 400 . I also try to buy it from your website but it says i wont be able to buy it untill late June. just let me know sir if its ready.
Yes, you can install the Alpha T that is made specifically for the Ninja 400. It is available for pre-order, but it won't be available to ship until June as you read. Also, we cannot ship exhausts outside the United States. -DrewZilla
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/yoshimura-alpha-t-works-slip-on-exhaust-kawasaki-ninja-400-2018
That was a bad new fot me bcos i stay in india, i will pay for the shiping thought.
You could use a freight forwarder in the United States if you so choose. -DrewZilla
If my motorcycle has a power commander 3, different exhaust and air intake. It was tuned when I bought it, just put the battery back in after a long winter does it need to be re tuned since battery was out of bike?
Is it Lawful or is it Legal?
I have question, if i install fullsystm exhaust on my 155cc bike, do i need ecu remapping?
Yes, you will probably need to remap. -DrewZilla
R15 ke bro?
@@polong99 tak mt15 bro. r15 dengan mt15 sama engine. bedanya r15 sportbike & mt15 naked bike/ standard
@@solo6965 ehh igt org Malaysia... Jiran rupanya
@@polong99 yes