SIGMA ART 24-70 vs CANON RF 24-70 - CANON R5
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- Опубліковано 23 чер 2024
- Full comparison between the Canon RF 24-70mm F2.8 L IS USM and the Sigma Art EF 24-70mm F2.8 DG OS HSM. Image quality, autofocus, autofocus noise, chromatic aberration, focus breathing.
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Sigma Art 24-70 2.8 - geni.us/AsTvW
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Table of Contents
0:00 - Intro
0:47 - Testing Parameters
1:22 - 24mm Test
1:51 - 35mm Test
2:12 - 50mm Test
2:35 - 70mm Test
2:56 - Chromatic Aberration Test
3:20 - Autofocus Test
4:57 - Image Stabilization Test
5:27 - Autofocus Noise & Focus Breathing Test
6:56 - The Results Were Surprising
7:26 - Differences & Similarities
9:02 - Price
10:02 - Size & Weight
10:32 - Build Quality
10:45 - Focus By Wire
11:02 - EF vs RF Lens Compatibility
11:33 - Conclusion
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thanks for the review man really appreciated, none of the youtuber uploaded that much detailed review.
You're very welcome. Thanks for watching!
THANKS JOSH , SUPER EASY TO UNDERSTAND AND STRAIGHT TO THE POINT .
Great comparison, great video. So much information. Thank you🙌🏾
This really helped me choose Josh! Thank you.
Great comparison, great video. Thank you!
TERRIFIC REVIEW! Excellent video samples and real world testing. Too many office reviews on YT. Keep up the awesome work!
Great review! Thank you so much!
Thanks for making this video. I've been wondering about that Sigma.
Thanks for that. Just out of curiousity, were you using the same WB for both lenses? I know most Sigmas are generally warmer than Canon glass but I didn't expect the huge difference seen at 04:30 where the Sigma has way more punch and "glow" in the skintones. If that is good or bad is personal I guess. But here I tend to prefer the Sigma fwiw.
so with the adapter does the autofocus still work the same on the EF lenses?
Awesome comparison. Thank you so much. You got a new follower. Love from Switzerland
You are very welcome. Thanks for watching and for the support!
Excelent test and comparison. Txs
Thank you for this test!
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
Simply splendid. Thank you.
Are any of these lenses parfocal? How is the focus audio when it catches or misses focus? I'm seriously considering buying one of them (and I can't say much about the audio since it's silent, so I'm reconfirming)
Thanks for this GREAT review man. You just helped me save $1,500. I had ordered the Canon RF lenses, but cancelled it once I saw that the Sigma was practically identical. The Canon might have a tiny advantage in certain focusing scenarios, but it's stuff I would never notice or care about so I cancelled the order and just got the Sigma for $1,099 vs $2,600 for the RF.
You’re welcome! Super glad the review was helpful. Thanks for watching!
@@Josh_Sattin Please do a comparation between Tamron 24-70 F2.8 G2 and Canon RF 24-105 F4. Thank you!
yeah I'll be honest the onyl differences I noticed from this video were that the sigma was letting in less light(assuming settings were identical), and the focusing took a bit longer but not $1500 less light and extra focus time
thank you so much for your review, I am looking for a lens.
Thanks! Great video! Was in the market for a 24-70. Had the Tamron 24-70 G2 but was never satisfied. Too soft and low contrast at the long end. Because i want IS i have to consider between those two lenses. Was able to get a almost new Sigma a few days ago for a good price. Thought i might give it a shop before i empty my pockets for the Canon RF. And i'm really happy so far. I like the images it produces. The lens itself feels great. Much better overall than the Tamron. AF is super fast and accurate. Love it!
Thank you for the video ! It was great !
Thanks for your work !
hi, Josh! How do you like the image stabilization on the Sigma when you record video? like in movement?
Great video!
I didn’t want to settle and went for RF 24-70 but man that sigma was definitely a real thought for me. I am finally moving up in camera gear and just didn’t want to think about compromising on a lens that will likely be on the camera most of the time. May go sigma with adapter for other lenses. I hope canon opens up the RF mount to aftermarket sooner than later. Makes me wonder what sigma could accomplish on the new mount.
Just got my Canon R7 because of your reviews, would hope you would use the R7 sometimes because of the aps-c difference when comparing lenses or other things :)
This is SO HELPFUL THANK YOU
Great comparison video! I thought the sigma looked more crunchy (over-sharpening). I thought the character of the bokeh was better on the RF glass. However the Sigma wasn’t bad at all.
Sigma is not supposed to win this race. But the savings is a win.
That image stabilisation in the canon is crazy good, as a video maker that’s probably the biggest selling point for me with the c70
Such a great comparison video! My 35MM never leaves my camera but I need a lens for travelling and video content - the sigma looks like a great more-affordable option, but it looks like the colour was warmer, am I just imagining that? Either way such an amazing vid thank you!
They are warmer, that’s standard on a lot of sigma lenses
That's funny because the Canon RF lens looks warmer to me, I see it in the colors on the flowers. There is a lot more yellow tones in the greens of the trees on my computer (14' MacBook Pro).
look forward to comparision of Tamron 24-70 G2 and 3 of others
Tamron 24-70 G2 is another solid option! I’m using that on my R. Works great.
How’s the focus noise?
great video, getting the canon r5c and so hard to decide between these lense
Really great tutorial ....
wow you blew my mind with something you said at the beginning, I had no idea the so famous canon 24-70 EF had no IS !!!! I was thinking of saving money not getting the RF and instead getting the canon, but the IS is a deal breaker for me. I should go with the Sigma Art 24-70 then since it has IS (or OS as sigma calls it) and it costs less. It's not as sharp as the canon but I need the IS for video.
excellent video mate!
Thanks!
Great video! Just what I was looking for, switching to the r6 mkii and was looking at the sigma. I was very happy once I saw your name next to the thumbnail, your hands down one of the best at what you do. Id put you up there with potato jet and McKinnon🫡💪Also loving the podcasts.
Thank you so much for the kind words!
Wow, the noise level of Sigma 24-70 is amazing! Have you tested other Sigma lenses (24art/35art/50art etc.)? Thanks!
i have watched son many lens reviews before. I normally have to watch for 3 hours to make a decision. However your review was so simple and perfect that it only took this one video to make my decision.
Glad the video was helpful for you. Thanks for watchinig!
Thank you for the comparison, it helped me a lot. I have an RF and I love the lens. But I'm a hobbyist and I'm considering selling my rf and buying a sigma here in the UK. As you said, the used RF goes for 2100 or 2200 and I found a sigma for 800 used. I could invest in other EF lenses with the same money that I have invested in my RF.
Have you noticed a more pronounced yellowish tone in the sigma or do you think is just a white balance matter?
Thank you once again
Glad the video was helpful. Yeah, you can save quite a bit of money with the Sigma. I didn't notice a color shift between the two lenses. For the tests in this video I had the white balance on the Sunny setting in the R5 and didn't make any color corrections, just exposure adjustments.
Great review Thanks.
Do you know If the sigma works with AF focus speed Settings (found on c70 R5c …)
I’m 30 seconds in but already this is great. I got the RF version because I wanted to simplify my kit (around R6 and EOS R) but I mainly shoot portraits (sigma 85 and 135 Art, and RF 70-200) and the 24-70 is relegated to UA-cam videos and BTS shots mostly- it’s driving me nuts knowing I’ve got so much equity in a lens that I basically use for fun only. Been thinking of selling off the RF and getting sigma’s 24-70 Art or Tamron’s 24-70 G2 then maybe ditching my EOS R for an R5…
Choose R5C instead of R5
I own the sigma and love it. Almost never leaves my camera. Only gripes are the weight of the lens (for some applications) and the barrel extends when zooming.
Good points. I should have talked about the difference in length as you zoom in.
Thank you very much! I found your channel recently and it’s great. Today I was looking for some test of Sigma 24-70 with the R5/R6 and here it is! Great comparison. I consider buying 24-70 but the price of the RF is too big. I will test Sigma by myself but this video helped a lot, thanks!
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
have you tried it
@@heyammedah8684 Finally no. I’ve tried Canon EF 24-70 and it was too much front heavy especially for balancing on my Ronin S. Sigma would be even more. I bought RF 24-70 and I’m happy :)
Great review. I think I liked the Sigma slightly better for my preference. I think it will be my next purchase tomorrow.
This Video was enlightening to me. Just I migrated from DSLR to entry level Full frame camera Canon R8 and as an enthusiastic photographer I stroger believe it RF canon lense does not justify the cost in comparison with this Sigma. Thank for great video.
Thanks man...your video helps me to choose between these two lenses..i will buy sigma one as its half of the price..
Thanks for the great video Josh. I do everyday photography, wedding and other event photography.
I have EOS R5 and confused to get a lens. which one do you suggest ?
Sigma 24-70 F2.8 Art lens with RF adaptor or Canon RF 24-105 F4L
You're welcome. That really comes down to if you need the 70-105mm reach or the F2.8 more.
The focus breathing on the sigma was apparent . I didnt notice it on the canon.
Also try the tameron G2 and compare it to The RF
The IS in the RF seems to work a lot better than the Sigma. In the sigma video I can see some micro movements than I would like to stabilize after in premiere. The RF one seems "already post stabilized".
What kind of microphone did you use when comparing AF noise of both lenses?
❤❤❤love this review
Your video helped me a lot.
Nice! Thanks for watching!
Awesome video, thanks!
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
Just had my Canon 24-70mm f2.8 L IS crap out last night. Its my main working lens for jobs photo and video. I am working with an R5 now but still do have some 7D Mark ii as backups and this is the exact video I was looking for. So stoked you made this video. You got my subscribe. Really helped me make the decision to save some money and go with the Sigma and also have the universal compatibility.
It is worth to buy for canon rp instead of 24-105l lense ...my main purpose is wedding videos ...and how z the autofocus of the lens please reply
Rf is for mirror less right?
Sigma is great! I have this lens the only thing is its weight. it's quite heavy. but for sure outperforms EF lens
Thank you for this!
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
Thanks a lot for this comparison, I was just choosing between these lenses from the review. I almost bought RF 24-70, then I would have lost canon 70-200 F2.8 ii (by selling it), but now I have sigma 24-70 and canon 70-200
Using the adapter does the sigma focus well/fast? Any issues cons of using adapter
Great video!
Thank you!
Great video thanks for sharing
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
don't have a full frame camera i have a crop sensor camera the canon 80d i guess when the prices goes down I'll buy me a full frame camera but for right now i only have the 80d and i want a good lens that can do everything with. I want a few pointers. I want to know how good this lens is and would it fits my canon 80d
l have one main question.
Does Sigma 24-70 support the 12 frames and 20
frames per second modes burst modes ??? It should
say H+ in green colour
thank you!
Fantastic review. Thank you so much. I have longed to buy the Canon after renting it to use with my R6. It was the BEST shoot of my life. BUT the price! If there wasn't a SIGMA that looks SO CLOSE, I'd still have held out for Canon. BUT there is the SIGMA. So I just ordered the Sigma (which is on sale - normally $1299 and right now $1141) and wanted to refresh my memory about why it was so good so I came here and saw the review I'd previously liked :). Sigma was as good or better than the Canon in all cases except Sigma AF was audible (and so is the Sigma 18-35 that I own and LOVE) but not significant. And if I'm micro nitpicking, the IS "could have" a little more nano movements. Canon is double the price so this is an easy Sigma win for me (although I hope they eliminate the motor sound to the Canon level and charge the same).
would you recommand the sigma 24-70 over the canon 24-70 for a portrait photographer?
Thank you for this review, I was in between the RF and sigma but think sigma will be the way to go for me
I dig my Tamron 24-70 2.8 G2
I will eventually move to Canon RF 24-70 2.8
If for any reason, just so I eliminate the need for the adapter and also I believe mayched with the R5 & R6 the stabilization will be a notch above.
The Canon RF 14-35mm F4 IS
that lens stabilized with both my R5 & R6 is ridiculous.
The one place I may go with sigma is.. primes.. I'd like to grab the 24mm, 50mm, 85mm & 105mm.
Thanks a lot for the comparison! I knew the Sigma is at least equally good :D
l have one main question.
does Sigma support the 12 frames and 20 frames per second modes burst modes ??? It should say H+ in green colour
Thank you 🙏🏼
You left out the Tamron EF 24-70mm. It has image stabilization too!
Nice one Josh, I shot with the Sigma on an Eos R for 2 years, then switched to the R5 with the RF lens. I much prefer the Canon lens. Especially form factor and feel when holding it. I found the Sigma very front heavy on the adaptor. Edit: also, the focus ring went twice on the Sigma in the time I had it and i had to send it in for repair. I found it to be very poor for manual focus.
Another incredibly valuable video. Do you think the Sigma would work properly on an R7 with the Canon EF adapter?
Thank you. Although I don't think I've ever tried that combo, it should work as you would expect.
Can you compare also the "Tamron SP 24-70mm f/2.8 Di VC USD G2" with Canon RF 24-70mm F2.8 L IS USM? If possible, with Sigma variant, too. Thanks
one thing on the autofocus noise. the sigma is notably louder than the canon due to canon's USM. However; you didn't hear the sigma in this test because your ambient audio lowered the gain on the internal mic of the camera. If you are in quieter environments, the autogain will increase and the "ticks" of the sigma's AF will become very apparent.
the sigma and the rf 28-70 are very very noisy when focusing, especially when in quiet rooms. the 24-70 seems to be pretty quiet
Nice Video.Thank you
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
If you like the 24-70 you would love the 28-70 RF. I have both and they are very similar in use but the 28 just has a little more magical feel to the rendering. It's certainly not good for "walk around" use tho. One thing to note about the 24-70 is the close focusing.
Don’t agree. The 28 70 is unpleasant to use. On the r5 balance is terrible and it hurts at the end of the day. I prefer the 24 70
@@xxichikokoxx you’re right. I find the 24 70 more practical with is 24 focal and autofocus motor and stab. (For video and photo).
I rent three times the 28 70 and it’s an awesome lens but unpleasant to use (in my point of view) and you have to use it with a powerful stab for video which are heavy.
By the way, during a shooting, I noticed that the focal 70 is shorter than the 70 from the 24-70.
The 85 is THE perfect 85 in all the aspects!
Does your canon rf make a clicking noise when autofocusing?
At 4:46 it looks like the sigma has more exposure even with the same parameters, is that because some clouds, or it is actually brighter??
canon have really dropped the ball on the RF system. They were behind the mirrorless curve against sony, and also prevented third party manufacturing. Unfortunately, people have realised just how capable old ef lenses and tamron and sigma lenses are with the R bodies, that their prices are still staying up. I mean even 3-4 yr old 24-70's don't go for anything less that 700$ on ebay
Hi thanks for your content.
I realy like your format
Do we loose à big amount of quality if using vidéo with non rf lens on the canon r5 ? I know in photo we are around 18mgapixels but in video ?
I have the sigma 18 35 art
Thanks à lot to keep Engaging with your community
You are losing megapixels with photos on the R5 with the Sigma 18-35 because that is an APSC lens (not full frame). The camera crops in automatically so you are not getting a full sensor readout. This will be the same case with video.
it is interesting, even the colours are different.
I had the canon RF version and it took a very slight knock against a padded chair that actually broke the outer body in that it twisted away from the inner mechanicals and couldn’t be fixed. The RF lenses are not as tough as the EF lenses and nowhere near as strong as the Sigma Art equivalent which is far more robust.
Why isn't there any vignetting on the Sigma? I would expect that with RF to EF mount at 24mm
I think I'll just go with the Sigma. I'm not making money from my photography and I've already saved 1k$ by buying EF versions of L lenses instead of RF ones. They work great and you can't really tell the difference. I've read some photography books and even some pros used tamron and sigma lenses on Canon DSLR bodies.
True
Skill make a PRO Photographer, not brands🎉🍻👌
Is there no additional crop for the sigma glass on the r5? Since it is made for ef which usually is crop sensor? Thinking of getting it since I also use a black magic 6k
Nope. This Sigma is a full frame lens. The more common Sigma 18-35 is a crop lens.
ef-s is crop sensor, ef is full frame This is FF
Great vid, dude. I honestly saw better stabilization from the Sigma, TBH. I’ll be getting the Sigma so I can be 2/3 of the way to their Trinity.
Thanks! The stabilization looked pretty similar to me. It was a bit surprising. I think that has more to do with how good the IBIS is in the R5.
have you tried it
@@heyammedah8684 I have not, no. I went with the Canon instead because Sigma is excluded from the RF mount.
WHO IS BETTER FOR PICTURES CANON OR SIGMA? I HAVE A CANON R 6 Thank you in advance
Thank you
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
Can you do another video only about how stabilisation working on this two lenses in different modes?
I don't have the Sigma lens anymore, but the only other mode to try is adding electronic IS on top of the IBIS. It is not possible to just test the IS in the lenses against each other because once you turn IS off in the lens it turns IBIS off in the camera.
@@Josh_Sattin I meant how does this lenses works with the ibis? Is there some issues?
Hello Josh, really nice comparison. Could you please help in one point. How the aperture changes with focal length in both lenses.
Thanks! The aperture does not change when you change focal lengths. These are both constant aperture zoom lenses.
@@Josh_Sattin oh understood, these are constant aperture. Thanks a lot.
Would you recommend the sigma art 24-70 over the canon Ef 2.8? When using the R5 body. It seems like the sigma keeps up with the RF version so must be better than the EF?
Oh man. That's a tough decision. It depends on what you are using it for and what your other lenses are. If you are doing video and need the IS, then maybe the Sigma over the EF 2.8 II and it's cheaper. Nowadays you can get a pretty cheap used copy of the EF 2.8 II though. I think it really comes down to personal preference, they have slightly different character. I personally prefer the Canon lenses a bit. If you are doing video and might be doing two camera shoots, then having lenses from the same family is helpful for matching footage. Hope that helps!
@@Josh_Sattin Thanks! I am leaning more towards the canon although the sigma does have better ibis but with the r5 I think the EF will do just fine with video.
Sigma has more of a contrast image. I personally have the RF 24-70 paired with my C70, but for that price I could have picked up the speed booster and the sigma 24-70 f2.8
How do you like the c70 and the rf 24-70?
I’m thinking about using that setup for some of our work.
Not sure if you are asking me or Unconventional Media, but I’ll chime in. I haven’t shot that combination very much, but it works great. It just isn’t a focal length that works for me with the crop factor. It’s a 35-105 (ish). I like to be able to get wider than 35 on a medium zoom.
@@TimothyGordon My main type of work is filming weddings so the RF 24-70 F2.8 becomes more like a 36-112mm on the super 35 and the aperture is more like a F4. I love this lens it's my go to lens for just about any project. The autofocus works great and the control ring on it is very useful. I love the build quality and the optical stabilization works great!
I've recently picked up the 0.71x adapter the EF 50mm F1.8 to use for interviews and get that extra stop of light. I'll use this combo during receptions where the lighting gets low and I don't need to zoom in and out as much.
@@javireyes2455 do you do any handheld work with the c70? I’m just wondering if the IS in the rf 24-70 is good enough for handheld work at all?
@@TimothyGordon All the time definitely recommend it.
Yeah the sigma is crazy for the price. You also get IS, you could go for the EF variant if you really want that red ring but imo, sigma definitely takes the cake
So what you're saying is, I can save about $1300-$1400 by just going with the Sigma EF lol
That’s what’s I did, and I love it!
The client definitely doesn't care. 😂
I’m doing that right now!
Yeah, you're basically paying for that Red ring and the native mount. I've used plenty of sigma art glass and it's literally canon L glass or sony g master in disguise for less money
@@krejn I ended up getting both tamron EF G2 lenses for 24-70 and 70-200. They have been gamechanging, and I get great photos!
Josh, that Sigma looks to be sharper through all ranges. Even the bokeh looks sharper. I think you have convinced me to go with Sigma in this range.
have you tried it
Have you bought it?
from the comparison you can tell that the RF is way better on focus breathing, a bit better on autofocus and stabilization but man I would save 1100$ 11 times out of 10 cus that aint worth it and also you could get a 35mm f1.4 sigma art lens which is in my opinion the best 35mm f1.4 lens you can get now for canon and its just 800-900$ which is nuts considering the quality you get
Hi Josh,yes sigma but lots people says sigma has focus issues.
There is one BIG difference with RF vs Sigma EF versions - canon lens is much LESS shaky since the combination of lens And ibis work together. You get this (hand)+ icon shown. Meanwhile with sigma you have NO „+” sign, meaning stabilisation of lens And IBIS do not work in pair. Adding the adapter to EF gives additional weigth to sigma which is quite significant at the end.
so its Double price and if device is stabilized , for 80% amateur the price before a little more
So no crop factor?
My Sony Sigma Art 24-70 f2.8 is amazingly sharp. Distortion is bad at 24mm but with 32mpix its ok to crop a little. Had the EF 24-70 and it was my got to lens. I have the R6 also but ended up getting the RF 24-105 as my walk around. Had it for 2 years and bought the Sigma recently for the Sony mostly because of grad and proms this year. Just wish Sigma created some RF lenses.
I used Tamron 24-70 G2 with my R5+C70 kit. Think it's better than the Sigma. Great IS, and cheap.
Hey bro, does the IS of the Tamron work well with the R5 IS? Please any help is appreciated on this.
@@TUTWZRD it works great. No issues at all
I am planning to get the R5C which sadly has no IBIS. Any chance you can tell me how the Tamron OS is with IBIS turned off on the R5?
@@rodricfrancis2281 bigger issue. Autofocus just doesn't work in video with Tamron lenses on the R5C.
I have a 24-70 G2, 70-200 G2, 15-30 G2 and a 35 1.4.. none of them work.
They all worked great on my R5.. and even work perfectly in photo mode on my R5C.. but do not work at all in video mode.
@@TizOnly1 😭 😭 hopefully they can fix it with a firmware update
If I could find the SIgma more easily in my area, its pretty difficult even factoring in used, it would be in my kit now. Sadly, its very difficult to find here. Used Canon 24-70Ls are more easily available, by a slight. But many are in questioable shape while those in good condition are being sold off used at very inflated prices.