Busta Rhymes on Canibus Battle & Battle Rapping
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- Опубліковано 30 сер 2012
- www.vladtv.com/ - The legendary Brooklyn rapper detailed his roots in battle rapping, which started when Leaders of the New School's Charlie Brown started battling him when he wasn't even into rhyming yet. Busta also shared his thoughts on battle rappers today, including Canibus, who he says "knew better than to pull out a notepad" during his now-infamous battle with Dizaster.
Busta Rhymes needs to do a podcast or something. I could listen to him talk about anything.
Spaghetti?
Mom's spaghetti? with his knees weak and his arm heavy?
Deftones Owl
Hel yeah that shit would be dope as hell.
Vd
He has a talking voice like I have never heard before. This nigga talk, you gonna listen lol
Dizaster explained why Canibus wasn't prepared and I give him MAD PROPS For keeping it 100.
RIP canibus
Canibus lives for ever bro
@@YoungBrada Pff dude makes 1 mistake and it's rip, he made 3500 songs bro
@@nzeusman8215 Bro it's a rap battle, your history, legacy, doesn't mean shit in a rap battle. You don't get bonus points or shit can slide because you're a legend or a celebrity. It's all about that battle, that's it, in the battle world, Canibus just holds a major L, he never battled again for redemption or anything. His record is 0-1 and it was a major loss.
And the mistake he made was a premeditated mistake, like choking is one thing, no one plans to choke, but pulling out a notepad?
Like why the fuck is that even with you in the battle, why is your home boy keeping that on the sidelines for you, like come on Canibus.
@@ThumbsUpMike If your history or w/e didnt matter you wouldent even be up there, plz
Busta Rhymes is one of the greatest. Period. He has fortune fame lyrics and hot beats great music and club hits.....he's still VERY underrated.
Umm.. he's not underrated! He is well respected , sold millions of records (something these new age kids can't do) movies, had an Il crew and a long run. His accolades, creativity and grammies speak for himself but at the end of the day we all get old, pass the torch and Busta is. Legend go and do your research. Think the term underrated is a cliche word and is heavily miss used on youtube by people who never knows what they are talking about.
Pullin out a notepad in the middle of a battle? That's like stoppin a basketball game, in the middle of it, and askin to practice for a min. WTF!!??
...or taking a timeout so you can put a ladder under the hoop.
it wasn't in the middle of the battle, it was 3rd round, don't believe Vlads instigating ass, or the medias for that matter, he has one off night, it happens hes human for crying out fckin loud! hes still doing his thing, hasn't said anything and has been humble for the most part, hopefully he will learn from this and come back blazin! cut it out, like Busta said it doesn't discredit him.
It was in the Middle of the battle, it was 3rd round he forgot his bars then went on saying "you win diss" lmao. Vlad has nothing to do with it fool he eats of it, cant blame him for that.
It was NOT canibus' day but its nobody's fault, just his.
It doesnt really discredit his "legacy" but being honest when people look at him the first tbing they gonna remember is the BIG ASS NOTEPAD!
Raul Gavidia hahaha (big ass notepad) had me laughing hah ,, this fool didn't take out no lil notepad took out a fucken phone book hahah,, regardless of wat I think canibus gots skills with his rhymes, freestyle battles no good but writing songs he spits some ill shit , still a fan of his work
+Raul Gavidia He said "You win DIZ" not "diss" as in Dizaster...
I like how Busta brings up the lost art of true freestyle. Where you may have come with some writtens, but ultimately you had to come off the top. Where as now you can google your opponent, and all that.
i respect busta more than any other mainstream MC , he was still battling & flowin in cyphers in NY when he was already signed back in the early 90s
people acting like he pulled out the notebook and still tried to win. he admitted he lost before he pulled out the notebook and literally asked if they wanted him to rap from it because he didn't wanna cut the show short. and he's old and hasn't battled in years and years it's not crazy that he got thrown off and forgot his bars.
Nobody wanted to hear it. He made his self look sad spitting his BATTLE RHYMES after giving up in the battle out of a notebook. Ugly. It was hard to watch. I pulled out a notebook in a battle I was embarrassed but at least that shit wasn't ON TAPE!! It's the WORST THING u can do! I know from personal experience and I'm nobody. He's pretty well known so that makes it so much worse.
@@daveholland7823 Yea it was quite sad. He is still one of the best lyricists ever tho
Dave chill out as long as it 2as after the battle not during. He list bruh you need to fall back. Canibus is depressed bro and having other issues. He know he should have had a great career. That's why you need agood producer and DJ'S and an overall good team to make it. Em was blessed to have a Dr Dre to teach him , how to create a character, rap timing, breath control, making beats ,how to craft an engaging story in a song. People try to diss Dre for taking a long time to complete projects but when he is finished his work is legendary. Look at both Chrinic albums compared to the Straight outta Compton soundtrack which studio guys rushed him to put out. There are probably one maybe two decent songs on that album.
He could have remembered them all and it wouldn't have mattered, it was already looking terrible for him before the notepad. The material he did remember wasn't very good either.
He should’ve accepted the loss and stopped right there.
busta voice with head phones omg
lmao
@Dapper Don lol
The flop u gayyyyyy???
Busta looks like a brolic, slightly better looking Tracy Morgan
PeeJay Torres LOL
Is that supposed to be a compliment? lol
lmfaooooo
Lmao yo I got my mixtape lil bro check it out Percy p I'll take you to the butcher shop I'll give you all the meat i got lol
🤣🤣🤣
no matter what people say about the situation Canibus did on stage, to me he's still a lyrical icon til this day he just had a bad day and it happens.
That was a bad look for him.
You're both right.
@@walterwaterz3872 listen to full spectrum dominance
@@manikn4585 Yeah, def' will. Can' was insane. His lyical prime was that of few. He is so ill. Complex and insane. I am no stranger to his lyical obilties, no professor to it, but still no stranger. Lol.
Being a lyrical icon is a matter of opinion. However, to say he had a bad day is just plain dumb. That's like a gangster snitching. Some things you're not supposed to do.
Canibus is still a beast. Yes, he made a major mistake by pulling out a notebook in the middle of a battle, & quite frankly, I'm certain that he feels bad about doing that now, and probably won't ever do it again. It happened, it is what it is now, and history can't change it. However, Canibus is still one of the best MCs of all-time. I have him in my top 5, without a doubt, as far as overall cleverness, intelligence, lyricism, & wit; it's all there. It's like the total package. One of the best.
From how much he was disrespected in his career, what more could that have done? He was already being overlooked. Learned lesson nothing, it was another average everyday disrespected thing he been going through.
One of the realest rappers that no one would physically touch....
Pen to paper canibus is easily one of the best MC's
Years ago. Compared to the MC's these days aside from the mumble rappers, his shit is trash.
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Mesus you would lose that bet.
Mesus I bet you were one of the ones that thought “Those look like Tom Cruise moms shoes” was hard as fuck.
@@mesus3701 I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt on this one, so i actually went back and listened to it. I gotta say that was the worst piece of shit song and lyrics I've ever heard. Canibus is irrelevant at this point so idk why im even entertaining you with this argument.
you should be automatically disqualified pulling out a note pad
guess you didnt see the battle...it was over by the time the book came into play
You should also be automatically disqualified for choking. *Caugh* dizaster. First round. EHHUM.
uhhh diz bodied him first round?
d Cyfa
Diz did not choke at all the crowd was wayyy too loud for zero reason.
He was. He disqualified himself before he pulls it out. He says fuck it u win but let me spit my whole shit without fuckin it up. It was lame
The type of ish Canibus be spitting aren't easy to remember.
That's why canibus was the greatest. Shallow headed people like you just prove that I guess
Sorry, but the stuff battle rappers remember and spit today is way, way more intricate and difficult to remember than anything Canibus has. Even the stuff he actually said in the battle was weak as hell.
😅😅😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Canibus knew he was going into a match for one of the first times as an underdog. That's real talk. Bus was a legend , and wasn't use to that. A crowd that was hyped on dizaster. A style he couldn't mess with, and he was a has been to a young crowd like that. He knew he lost the first two, and had that planned for media hype
canabus has made 2 tracks since this battle
and hes still dope
Yea..that shit broke my heart. I was like, "Oh no!! Don't do it Bus!" Canibus should have just conceded defeat, shook hands and bowed out gracefully. He would have saved face far better. Big oops moment that can't be taken back, but a Legend.
I still respect Canibus. The man is nice with the pin!
pen not pin
Pen*
*pen
Y'all are calling the commenter out for misspelling pen and not for the fact they said canibus is nice with a pen. :/
Not to mention he had gotren beat the fuck down coming through immigration and had a concussion and all that. I feel what Busta is saying but there was a lot more than met the eye!! 🙏🙏
Dudes definitely in my top five.
If I was to make a list of living artist who's faces should be on the Mount Rushmore of Hip hop it would be KRS, Rakim, Busta and Nas..
Briley Gabriel It's impossible to choose though. When it comes to impact then Pac, Rakim, KRS ONE or Kool G Rap, skill Black Thought, MF DOOM etc
@@BrileyGabriel Busta over Kool G?
@@lyrics2challenged Cool G is a dope lyricist, but busta has soooo many flows and has remained relevant in the game for 3 decades...
canibus and busta rhymes just did a song together they went ham on it
I luv the look on Busta's face when he talk about the note pad. Like he just caught one of his kids lying to him - that disappointed father look
Say what u want bout Canibis that Nigga got bars...
Carolina King Yeah, 30 pages my nigga
Carolina King True but that album was wack.
Carolina King Tom cruise mom shoes
Canibitch.
That Mothafuckin Dude Coming from an unoriginal name.
When Bust said, "Cats pulling out Blackberry's while they battle rapping", the first person that came to mind was Arsenol. He does that a lot before raps, scrolling through his Blackberry as if he is reminding himself of some of his rhymes. I'm not saying he's reading his rhymes, but it does look VERY suspect.
I'm 44 and from NYC so first time I saw shit like that was Drake on Flex lol.
@@anthonyanzalone8783 Meth did it too
So it's not allowed to do that before you even get on stage? Kinda stupid.
@@lyricsanonymous9036 Meth wasn't hiding it.. he was spitting bars directly from his phone.. (and killing it) Thats not the same as showing up for a battle and not being prepared.
@@StrongerThanEver84 If the cams out and it catches you looking at ur phone before the battle starts, during your opps rounds, or before urs, its a bad look.
pulling out a rhymebook in a battle is like going over the line in a drag race
MMMM! Nice!
More like driving an automatic top fuel dragster
It's better to just say hey I'm not much of a freestyle battle rapper but I can write some s*** and light your ass up but if you just forget what you going to say and it's dead air and lame then that's grounds for being booed off stage
WHY DOES BUSTA SOUND LIKE A VERY DISAPPOINTED DAD FROM 3:09 TO 4:08? XD
TERRELL TURNER thaz how disappointed i waz n canibus too
Because of how ill canibus is on the mic and to see what went down
Cuz he's a very very disappointed Dad
Like he said, he and Canibus " come from a different cloth " . Biz knows how he iz supposed to get busy . Biz can do better then that. He with his skills alone is atlrguabke god-tier . He should not of even forgot his rhymes, and if he did, he should if improvised, he is said to be a ill frestyler ( penned or domed ) anyways. Most thought that that his request for the notepad was gonna be a phyc & fake choke , for profromence , but it was not.
Its like having a ghostwriter, its not allowed ( for emcees , its okay for rappers, if open and honorable about it , thouh).
I'm guessing that you already understand this, but your just still stuck on the seriousness of his reaction.
In Germany one of the best german battle rappers Migthy Mo (today he calls himself Meidi) had his friend and also one of the best battle rappers Nedal Nib read his lines out loud before he said them
Fans of Canibus or not, cmon you all know thats whack pulling a notepad out. Nobody else standing in that building that day bring they stuff on a pad, and Canibus pulls one out. *Busta Rhymes is right; thats against the law and points lost.*
gigas81 yea that shit was lame I ws very disappointed , made me loose alil credit for canibus butt regardless of wat he still be spiting some of the rawest shit out their, im not saying hes the best but I am saying he gots skills with his rhymes ,freestyle battles not very well but writing songs he gets down
gigas81 they're all wack. either fucking freestyle or pull out the pad cuz they all at home writing and researching nowadays. hoppin around in front of their mirrors memorizing punchlines. this generations the reason hip hop makes less money than every other genre.
listen when u go there knowing the culture n like you said.. ain't no one else ever walkout there with a pad ....canibus knows better... he jumped in a ring he Shoulda never been in ...
George Diesel I was blown away Bis did that shit, but just as much blown away at how the battle/freestyle scene has become a show for the writers. I like Diz and he can free but even he has to have that thought in his head. What happened to Blaze Battles and Rap Olympics where they gave you a topic or word and you had to rap about THAT. If you want to have a written rap battle you all lose to Em anyways he's worth 1,000 times what you are. These kids trying to grab crumbs with this KotD shit. Really Pat Stay vs. Eminem? GAME OVER BEFORE IT EVEN STARTS.
totally diffrent game then the rap olympics .....u need bars
Its like watching a Boxer or MMA fighter at the end of his game.. Canibus was the greatest there has ever been in his prime. Still nobody can touch him lyrically for what he has done.
Thats pretty much how I looked at it, its sad when you see it but that doesnt take away anything hes done
***** okay pikachu
clintcastle u drunk stop it he was never the best
Dizaster beat him on king of the dot
Qua 817 fkn NEVER!! this cat crazy
Does anybody know what battle hes talking about that Iron Solomon Lost?
BANG BROUGHT ME BACK HERE.
Canibus's heights are immarkable, definitely god level for hip-hop. But the notepad and that battle were some of the worst things for hip-hop.
I love Busta !! My favorite ever!!
this the best interview about battle rapping as a whole
I have mad respect for Busta he's one of the best that eva did it!!!!!!
Canibus killed the energy of the room like no other I've ever seen before.
WHEN BUSTA SPEAK, YOU LISTEN!!! That's the OG right there!!!!
Word up Busta!! Nice interview!
i was there at sm2 tht night and saw busta and diddy having mad fun the whole time word up man
"I was beatboxing for Brown and he was dissin' me..." LoL
If I was Diz, I'd say okay, I win, you still wanna spit your rhymes, let me beatbox and start whenever you want. Would create a much better atmosphere and mood.
I love that train of thought, man ! ! ! ...
Right??.. I've never heard Diz beatbox though. that woulda been better for sure crowd was not feelin it at all
You're an idiot. It's battle rap.
GOOD looking out VLAD. Keep it battle rap.
I will agree with you, they are absolutely rare. But the fact that they still are born everyday, makes me hopeful for the future of rhyme.
It's one of these where Busta is wearing the same shirt and he says he will chew Eminem and I believe him because his fast style is up there with speedy gonzolez
busta n ems collab "calm down" is one of the very few songs where em didnt have the best verse, busta killed that shit
Still writing is part of rap. The biggest part actually. They need to call it a freestyle battle or a memorization battle. I understand that pulling out notes is a bad look but it's not that bad considering that whatever you wrote might be fire. If I have better lyrics than you and a better delivery I should win even if my memory is not as good. They should also have to rap with and without a beat. Diz could not possibly win a battle on a beat and to me every aspect of rap should be involved in judging a Rap battle. Otherwise you need to un generalize the name. Call it a No beat rap battle etc. But to think that one guy could be a better freestyler and writer and know how to ride a beat and know how to kick real world knowledge in between dope bars and still lose a battle simply because he didn't memorize his couple of lines about a specific opponent is an insult to Rap. IMHO.
Absolutely
How can I consider someone good at rapping if they are always forgetting their rhymes or stumbling through their material because they can't remember what they wrote. Like at least kick a free if that happens.
They took the bait and gone wit it while embarassing a legend to promote the lame ass rap battle league
STRONG ISLAND , LONG ISLAND ....GOD BLESS BUSTA ......HOLDING IT DOWN..... YES SIR
Dope story, i love hearing stories about real hiphop
I would love to see Busta's breaking and popping skills
Mixtapes completely killed the battle rapping scene
why?
true. and even so i dont view canibus as PURELY a battle rapper anyways cuz his tracks go hard too. the shit that he spits and has spit makes him one of the greatest, bar none, and even if he's kickin Mostly(not all) writtens theyre still some of the dopest ever especially the ones from His time, which he was ahead of.
Busta's dope been doing this 4ever, big up Bus!
Respeck to busta rhymes
say what you want but Busta put some serious work in all these 20 something years.. his first 4 albums are pure fire and he gets mad respect from all countries around the world.
NO
canibus is still one of the dopest mc of all time
duparcg I've Said Dat Since I 1st Heard Him!!!!(Sticky Fingaz N Meth Comes Next In My Order Of MC'S)
TELL IT BUSTA!!!! BUSTA IS THE HIP HOP LEGEND FOREVER!!! Respect
Bus never battled anybody out of the Country before. Since he had name recognition, he knew everyone would be rooting for diz, especially since diz just put on a few good shows there.
It's against the law to bring out an notepad in hiphop, but it's ok to wear a dress to entertain people in hiphop? 🤔
Wear a dress? Hell they getting they toes and nails done. Calling each other bae and shit. And the fuck everybody but my niggas thing. They breaking a lot of laws.
Wait, wait, let me pull out my notepad!
+Sob3r777 hahahahaha LMFAO!!!!!!
NO
Sob3r777 30 PAGES OF RHYMES
@@fukcup2868 "...in this mutthafuckah" LMFAO!
Busta rhymes has a very distinctive voice .... i loved his weird style .. it always got me hyper .. he just had a different style and he give a fuck about being criticized for it.. Busta will always be one of my all time favs man ..
fucking love Bus a Bus! One of the most innovative mcs of all time. Legend!
As i combine all i do's from the mind...
Cannibus is the double of rivaldo
Lol Rivaldo!
Damn son, you right, you right, but where you pulled that out from!
Lmfaoooo
i know that freestyles aren't always off the dome but if they are off the dome and are dope then that to me makes them twice as better whether freestyle or battle
I thought Canabis already capitulated before he pulled out his notebook? I still wish he didn't do that though. He is still light years ahead his time. go listen to 'Beast from the East'.
Canibus' fingerprints are ALL OVER battle rap. Battle rappers today are battling how Canibus was back in the 90's. It's like today's standard for battle rap in terms of cadence, inner rhyme schemes, alliteration, etc.
Everybody ragging on bis for that but no one says the same thing when these other battlers pull out their phones doing the same. I respect Busta for his thoughts on it but don't act like bis the only one, sure notepad different from a phone but def the same concept.
Very lazy answer by Busta. Bis was going thru some shit at the time of the battle. Was not himself that day. Life is about loss and all the greats have lost.
Busta is dope, and he has some insightful opinions. Man's a legend.
Peace to the G.O.D. Busta Respect
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY DID HE CUT OFF HIS LOCKS
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One of my favorite Rapper/Emcees: Bussa Buss!
YOU GONE GET THIS WORK!
"Against the law!"
If you don't laugh at some of the stuff Bus do you are nuts.
I love him
Busta's 1 of the realest!
...it's just another case of that old PTA....
"Where he was in that moment" That battle with LL Cool J F his mind up.
Ll cool j couldn't battle for shit
Mighta been the fact he had some personal baggage that week, including getting locked up.
well said Busta well said...Im very confused myself on wtf he was thinking about in that battle and I hope we find out.
Yes sir 🤛🏾
please tell me hez not drinkin strawberry cisco
Joey Nottingham Looks Like White Zinfandel 😅😅😅😅
He got that crystal cut with raspberry gingerale
How come Busta Rhymes and Swizz Beatz and shit are gonna say they're feeling these underground battle rappers and shit and Canibus and then not put them on?! Busta Rhymes did a song with fucking Chris Brown and Lil' Wayne. If he supports the underground like he says he does why doesn't he do songs with these guys? No disrespect to Busta, but if you're gonns say you like these guys then do a song with them or something.
research to see if he has
Busta puts lux and murda mook on and reps for them
not underground rappers but BATTLE rappers. He makes hit songs Battle Rappers do not
Gotta luv bussa bus!
I like that he lays down the law... he understands the rules and abides by them
When I saw Can pull out that notepad I was like... "did the pay him to give up like that" He didn't even try in my opinion! Like is was staged or something.. 🤔🧐
MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY LIKE WTF!!!!!!!!! I NEVER EXPECTED THAT WHATSOEVER.
@@disasteraka nigga just got outta jail, lets cut him some slack
canibus is the goat. lyrical, flow, wisdom , knowledge, truth, gems, exposure of the elites . canibus is the goat. fuck outta here. idgaf about that notepad shit, canibus was not in shape to rhyme plus he d busted his shoulder and couldnt practice anymore. dizaster probly practiced 20 out of the 24 a day. plus, battlin is not rappin on a record. name 1 rapper who made a track like channel zero? no one.
Big Big Ups to Busta one of my favorite MC's for the real rap he spit on this whole topic. Specially the Canibus debacle. How Dare Canibus compromise his integrity on the level of such Magnitude!!....yes Its that deep bra. I was embarrassed for him and the art form.
Canibus seems to be well known in hip-hop circles; more than I would have thought.
OH NO. Tell me Canibus did not pull out a note pad. WTF LOL
Watch the video. I almost cried
he HE PULLED OUT THE ART SKETCH PAD LMFAOO THAT AINT NO FUCKIN NOTEPAD.
TrillShvt he pulled out a fucken phone book hahah
Big L. Thats it.
i like how busta is folowing the battle scene
I agree!!!!!!!
I think canibus lost it
Holy shit Mr. YAOWA is that a shot at you. LOL I'm a big Joell Ortiz fan but this was funny.
Real talk!!
Canibus in 1998 was the hottest thing. Him and DMX fucking torching scorching hot the whole year and this nigga Canibus was just on features and freestyles.
The shit Canibus spit on that DJ Clue freestyle blew everybody's minds and probably influenced so many people to get in the lab and work on their craft.
I definitely respect your opinion.
Busta is a real cool dude
Freestyle battles are a lost art....I actually love URL and how the battles are written with a little freestyle, but the freestyle era was something special. That's how came up battling at parties and shut, we'd clown someone if they were sus of writing
:) Glad to see YMCMB didn't change him that much