Ultimatum #3-4 - Atop the Fourth Wall
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- Опубліковано 21 гру 2014
- Welcome to Atop the Fourth Wall, where bad comics burn. In this episode, Linkara looks at issues 3 and 4 of Ultimatum!
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Originally uploaded May 23rd, 2011.
ORIGINAL INFO: The death count rises and the audience’s patience falls.
RUMINATIONS: The shots with the Ninja-Style Dancer in the first two parts were done in my apartment floor’s lounge, which was undergoing a bit of renovation at the time, with the lounge area taped off with yellow tape. I figured it’d make for a weird-looking area off on the edges for him to be snooping around for people to be wondering where he was. As I’ve said before, I prefer for three-parters to have some story element going through them, both to keep people interested while I talk about the same comic for multiple weeks as well as build up to something while not wearing out its welcome. I’ve always liked the idea of the Ninja-Style Dancer having his own adventures off-screen. I always envision it being something akin to those 80s-celebrity cartoons, like Mr. T or Chuck Norris where the Ninja-Style Dancer is touring as a backup dancer, but falls into crime capers and the like and must defeat evildoers.
It’s just in this storyline, he found a little more than he had expected. - Розваги
Magneto killed Xavier for comparing him to a mass murderer who killed people for not being his ideal of perfection, when all he did was kill millions of people for not being his ideal of perfection!
+ Kyle Shea That makes the whole scene even dumber and far less impactful. At least, if the holocaust aspect was stil there, you could understand why Magneto would lose his temper (even if he's a total hypocrite).
While badly executed, Ikind of like the idea that Magneto flips out when someone almost gets him to see that he has become like those who hurt him and his people once.
But without that past, the scene is just...silly.
Oh, here we go. Look, just because I'm killing a lot of people in order to create a utopia doesn't make me like Hitler, ok? I don't have that moustache, for one thing!
Now, will you join me or not? Oh, but no Davids in my utopia... Sorry, you're going to camp David.
@@travishimebaugh8381 One thing I find really stupid is his whole reasoning behind snapping and deciding all the humans should die is the death of his two kids. Yet his daughter was killed by freaking robots and she caused the entire thing to happen by meddling with them in the first place. And Quick Silver never was killed at all not sure when it was revealed but he knows this fact. And even if he was killed it would have been directly due to his sister lover deciding to tinker with the Robots and his choice of joining her Father. So basically the only reason he decided to go this crazy was all because robot killed his daughter.
Magneto was a holocaust survivor
@@dakotadoyle7573 Not Ultimate Magneto though iirc.
14:31
Dormammu: Yes! I've finally killed the one thing that prevents me from conquering this dimension! Nothing will stop me n-
*Doctor Strange comes back from out of nowhere*
Doctor Strange: Dormammu, I've come to bargain.
Dormammu: Fuck.
XD
I never get tired of the “Our heroes are crazy, our villains are crazy. Hey let’s all just go crazy!” bit.
All it takes is one bad day to drive even the sanest man alive to lunacy.
"Dying just made Captain America even more badass" - words to live by :3
huh..., the story might have made more sense if it was Dormammu was the major villain of the story, his magic could have been the reason why the world was going all downhill, characters are acting out of character due to spell of madness that effect a select few. It probably wouldn't save the comic, but it would feel that there was more effort into this event.
Makes sense to me
Tevya Smolka quick spiderman make a deal!!
lol :)
Well, since it's magic they wouldn't need to explain it.
@@PosthumanHeresy Well played...
I'm still recovering from Wasp's death. I mean, WHAT THE FUCK?
343 Guilty Sparkle yeah it really makes your stomic turn after eating some Meat pizza and a slice of cake
Sacred Sister Same here bub.
Janet Van Dyne deserved better than this. She was already in an abusive relationship with Hank, her romance with Captain America ended badly despite it being one of the more healthy ones and now the Blob is devouring her corpse while she was being sexualized.
SPOILERS FROM THE FUTURE!!!
It WASN'T Doctor Doom! It was... HUMAN TORCH'S MOTHER!!!
I'm not joking. Ultimate Doctor Doom was trapped in the Zombieverse (no, really), so Johnny and Sue Storm's mother took the mantle of Doctor Doom and was posing as him the whole time.
R8erNation636 And that is possibly the stupidest twist of all time!
Any reason for her sudden need to be evil?
***** Well, she was one of Doom's confidants. I guess.
+R8erNation636 wow that is beyond dumb.
+MTdaBlacking She was never really good. She let her children think she was dead their whole lives and has at multiple points made it clear she believes scientific advancement is more important than her family.
Yep Cap is pretty awesome here. Volunteering to stay in hell so that Thor can be with the woman he loves really shows just what a great friend and comrade he is.
A pity then that he later left spiderman for dead on the bridge, after Peter took a fucking bullet for him. Seriously he didn't even bother to get medical attention to the wounded teenager who had just saved his life and who at the time was his protégé.
It's Steve's fault Ultimate Peter died and it's just further proof that EVERYONE in the ultimate books outside of the spiderman series are assholes.
To be fair, must of his allies (a.k.a everybody that isn't Spider-Man) is trapped on one half of a broken bridge while Peter was on the other. He then spent a long time fighting other heroes in what equates to the Ultimate Universe's Civil War.
I thought that it was supposed to be Valhalla, not Hell (Linkara has no idea why Hela's there and neither do I, Valhalla is ODIN'S Hall, like, down the street from his palace). Valhalla's supposed to be pretty great and a goal for warriors to end up there when they die. Given how crummy the Ultimate Universe seems, I wouldn't blame them if both Thor and Cap just wanted to stay there.
Helheim is not Hell.
@@JaelinBezel hell is the name of it's ruler though
It's like they used his 616 character for this story, and then went back to the "realistic" asshole version for other stories
Captain America in this universe is a French hating, super patriot who can't relate with anyone under 70
+Nicodemus Edwards And is still the most Awesome character here, doesn't that say something.
Plus he was an asshole to Aunt May at Peter's funeral saying he was never gonna be on the team and that he was better off dead.
Now in the 616 universe, He *is* an agent of HYDRA this whole time.
no he's not hydra in the 616, he was brainwashed. No that wasn't a twist ending it was obvious to anyone and everyone who was actually reading the comics
French hating? Did Cap say this Post-Ultimatum?? As that's where I tapped out of the Ultimate Universe.
Fun fact: Samuel L. Jackson actually was close to suing Marvel for using his likeness as it was without his permission, but instead they negotiated a movie deal, which Samuel L. Jackson made it so him as Nick Fury would show up in every movie even if it did nothing for the plot, using his face on the ultimate comics as leverage.
You know it's funny, in Ultimate FF this Doom was actually revealed to be a doombot (well, an impostor).
Really? Doom in ultimatum was an imposter?
@@infernoproductions265 yep. It's Mary Storm (aka Johnny and Sue's mom). At this point in the story, Victor Van Damme (and fuck them for changing Doom's last name in the Ultimate universe) was trapped in the Marvel Zombies universe.
"Dormammu, I've come to bargain!" "What do you want?" "A new villain!" "No! You get Loki for the better part of a decade instead"
You know what would be awesome? When Thor starts his trial we get a two page wide spread of an enormous army with Thor as a speck. Even the god of thunder has no hope of victory when Captain America shows up... with every dead hero. The allies of WW2 see Cap and switch sides. Everyone is wondering how this is possible but we get a shot of Hela and she see's a rune on the heroes and only grins. As heroes die in the living they pop up in Hel/Valhalla and join the fight. Eventually they win and meet with Hela. She says the life for death thing but before the others can say anything Odin appears. He says he will stay and ALL the heroes will return to the living. Hela accepts. Odin casts some quick magic so he talk to Thor. He says he is old and going to die anyway. Words of love are exchanged and Odin tells Thor to try and learn from his mistakes and remember to trust his allies. Thor regains his hammer and at the end of the series he takes his rightful place as the king of Asgard.
I was gonna say "and then Secret Wars happened, lol" but then I saw the first sentence again and went "Wait was that all hypothetical?"
PLEASE make this happen in 616!
@@BrendanJSmith Holy crap.
@@theotherknight8381 what?
@@BrendanJSmith People never respond to my comments. And after three years too.
18:46 Actually, Linkara, your not too far off because this actually isn't the real Ultimate Doctor Doom, it's actually the Invisible Woman and Human Torch's mother; Mary Storm disguised as Doom. I'm not even kidding, they actually stated in a later comic that she became the new Doctor Doom after the original got trapped in the Zombie universe
+iKillerZombie Why would she become the new Doctor Doom?
+iKillerZombie The Ultimate universe had a bad case of the M. Night Shyamalans.
i bet he's having more fun in the zombie dimension.
Eamonn Deane
For my own curiosity, I want to know a simple matter. Where you joking about calling her a power hungry moron and the writers were thinking more along the lines of this:
Richard: Doctor Doom is one of the most nefarious villains I have ever faced in my life and it turns out he's actually... my mother-in-law? **DUN DUN DUNNNNN**
Or was it established that she always had a cold and scheming personality before her PhD in villainy?
I know both cases are stupid, but I want to credit this twist for SOMETHING, which still doesn't forgive the unbelievably moronic plan.
Lol... The Maker meets True Doom?
I seriously can't even put into words how much it pisses me off that Doctor Strange dies like that. Way to just... negate someone who is SUPPOSED to be EXTREMELY powerful. Correction: SUPREMELY powerful.
And here comes the shittist plot twist ever, that's not even Victor that is Mary Storm. Johnny and Sues mother.
WHY DID SHE DO THAT?!?! WHY???!
Clint Barton who is actually...
GRANNY GOODNESS!!!
"Captain America is awesome in any universe"
Umm...about that.
In the awesome stakes: Ultimate Cap>Zombie Cap>Werewolf Cap>Hydra Cap>616 Cap
@@pious83 werewolf is cool as is MCU cap.
Yeah, between Stevil, the whiny Reb Brown version, and the thieving Matt Salinger version, I think "any universe" was a bit of a stretch.
@@pious83 I'm sorry, did you just say that Stevil wasn't the absolute _worst_ version of Cap in existence? Really?
@@RabblesTheBinx and zombie cap got his brain ripped out then put in black panthers dead sons head
Dr. Doom is supposed to be the kind of villain who plans for every, EVERY possible outcome and you expect to believe that he didn't consider this convoluted plan just MIGHT go south and just be like "whoops, my bad" I expect this from Discord from My Little Pony (because this is exactly what happens in the finale) but not someone as intelligent and cunning as Dr. Doom
I was a teenager when Ultimatum was originally published and I'm offended that Marvel thought I would be interested in this garbage, especially the Blob eating the Wasp.
14:31 That would have been so much better if ten seconds later, Dr. Strange reappeared without a scratch and said "Dormammu, I've come to bargain."
Man, I love memes.
"the wasps" was actually heartbreaking for me
I'll because of a 'avengers next generation movie'
Ant-man and wasp's kid was my favorite
Like he didn't feel in control of his powers and it was so cute just to watch him struggle Justin time for the final battle to just kick butt against a giant evil demon robots of his dad!
That movie was strange.....
Still really good though.
This is one of the first time's I've ever seen someone else anywhere on the Internet mention that movie.
Next Avengers: Heroes of Tomorrow. Pretty damn good, from what I remember.
@@FixTheWi-Fi it was, I loved it
You know what makes the whole Thor sacrificing himself for Steve and Valkyrie is that later they have him come back to life because he slept with Hela and gets her pregnant. Honestly since he was dead at the time I don’t know if this counts as Thor cheating on Valkyrie. I am just hoping that she isn’t either Loki’s daughter (in the Ultimate universe Loki is Thor’s half bother instead of adopted brother which makes the incest worse) or Thor’s sister (what Hela is in the MCU). What would have made more sense to me is have Steve be the one to make the sacrifice and have him and Hela fall in love (I don’t know if Hela is evil in the Ultimate universe) which is why Hela let’s Steve go back to the living realm. Maybe even have Steve say he prefers being with Hela as her lover since there is not much left for him in the land of the living since his short lived relationship with Janet didn’t work out because she cheated on him with her abuser and his first love moved on and married Bucky, but he would always come back to help them when he is needed because he is Captain America. Also for those who don’t know Bucky in the Ultimate universe made it out of the war just fine and married Steve’s first love and growing old since the Winter Soldier didn’t exist at the time. I feel like if it did they worth’s Hades made their own version of the Winter Soldier story except have a terrible twist like Bucky willingly became the Winter Soldier because he was jealous of Steve’s powers instead of being brainwashed like he was in the 616 universe and the MCU.
So basically Doom's explanation is...."Doom's bad. Sorry."
This also screws with Magneto's motivations. He doesn't want to kill mutants. That's a big part of him. Pretty sure one or two were killed with all this, so yeah.
The plan is so stupid that it needs to be a malfunctioning doom bot
Or it's just the mother of Sue and Johnny storm who somehow took over the body of Doctor Doom.
Rory Lumley or it’s really...
GRANNY GOODNESS!!!
Dr. Strange's death and Dormammu is the weirdest to me. I mean at least people noticed Wasp getting killed, but I don't really remember anything being done with Strange afterward or anyone following up the invasion from the dark dimension.
I mean what. Did everyone forget?
I think that's exactly what happened. Everyone forgot, though in fairness, I can't say that I completely blame them. If I worked for a company that published this mess, I'd want to forget about it too.
I am a teenager and I am very offended that they think that I would ever what to read this.
Same here .
I was a teenager when this came out and felt offended, too
What's funny is looking at some of the dropped plot points about this book AFTER the Ultimate Universe ended. Like... who the hell was the woman who took Dr. Strange's body?!
we never find out
We also never found out if Namor was released. Far as we know he was stuck in that little tube. Hope someone at least changed the water...
LittleWebHead 87 also about ultimate doctor doom being killed off by the thing yeah that was retconned in ultimate ff with ultimate doctor doom being alive and kicking the doctor doom that died in this story was a impostor a fake
LittleWebHead 87 also this doctor doom in this story was sue and johnny mother
Lol, I knew that part. Makes the whole head crushing thing disturbing in retrospect.
Doom: "My plan is flawless! I will push Magneto over the edge, and make him declare war on mankind!"
Magneto: *goes berserk and kills millions of people*
Doom: *shocked pikachu face*
Me: "...f*cking....wow, this is stupid."
You know how they couldve explained Magneto doing all this?
In his grief and anger, he explodes in rage and his powers go haywire, effecting all of the metal in the earth and pushing it so hard it forced the Earth to perform a massive shift on its axis. The sudden shift forced tidal waves into the east coast, caused earthquakes and tectonic shifts from the catastrophic movements, brought an avalanche down upon Latveria.
Suddenly Magneto isn't a terrible and irredeemable monster. Suddenly he's taken aback by his sheer power and the chaos he's done. Suddenly he's visiting his old friend Charles, who always used to console and understand him, only to find his sympathy well run dry. Suddenly being compared to Hitler making him snap is more understandable, and his murder of the last hope for humanity in his heart is gone by his own hand. The symbolism of his connection between his humanity and his mutant blood is gone and he's completely lost. Now the heroes fighting and killing him is tragic because of the circumstances, Magneto is killed and we grieve over those who had died and those who had fallen.
It's not perfect, but it's sure as shit better than what they actually did.
At least Magneto turning back to his evil roots in X-Men 97 made a lot more sense seeing how he watched thousands of Mutants, including Leech, die during the Destruction of Genosha. He promised a young boy a world free from hatred and fear only to see Leech blow up right in front of him.
--Ultimatum-- The Ultimate Universe: a perfect example of Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy
Seeing Doctor Dooms 'plan' I'm reminded of Lex Luthor and his plan in BvS. Similarly convoluted with uncertain goals. Maybe the whole manipulate someone else to do my bidding and then somehow I'll come out on top is not a very viable concept except on occassion.
"YOU FAIL AT SCIENCE, COMIC!! YOU FAAAAAAAAIL!!!" That sums up this entire review 😂😂
Doctor Strange: "Dormamu, I've come to-"
Dormamu: "Fuck off!"
*grabs him and blows his head off*
*Doctor strange comes back*
Doctor Strange: Dormammu, I've come to bargain.
Dormammu:.. I fucking hate you.
...My eyes are only minimally smaller than my mouth, and it's something I never even bothered checking until it was mentioned.
i think hank sacrificed himself instead of stomping them, because wasp died,so he sacrificed himself because she was his only love
Also, stomping on them probably would've made the bombs go off anyway. Then again, he could've just chucked them all into the sea. Congrats, Marvel, Ultimate Hank Pym is even more screwed up than regular Hank Pym, and regular Hank Pym has been accused of being the craziest Avenger of them all! Crazier than THE HULK!
thegreatunnamedone Ultimate Hank Pym is literally Hank Pym if all of his problems were turned up to 11.
it also doesnt help that this wasn't that long after the death Loeb's Son Sam. surprised its as sane as this all things considered
Captain America is awesome and he didn't make a deal with Satan.
The only hero acting heroic in this book is Spider-Man. Saving people in the city and all.
Red Dwarf references are ALWAYS amazing!
11:41
Jocasta is also the mother of Oedipus, and given the already incestious relationship between scarlet witch and quicksilver, it's safe to say the righter for the ultimates has some unresolved family issues
Jesus, Loeb should've took a hiatus from comics after his kid's death
Polaris is dead? She's Magneto's kid too!
Hank doing a gruesome death on blob isn’t really surprising, since we already know that this Hank Pym becomes really really violent when angry or stresssed
wanna know something funny? remember how they said that Polaris was killed by Madrox? well, Polaris is Magneto's daughter too. Magneto just killed his own daughter.
Was this in the Ultimates Universe?
@@samflood5631 ayup!
I want Marvel to know that this what made me stop buying comics for 10 years.
Biting the Blob's head off is probably the most metal thing Hank's ever done. It's fucking gross but DAMN, Hank, that was fucking awesome. I don't blame him for going crazy after seeing something like that, though. And his death was kind of badass, if a bit silly. But CHRIST all the gore in this comic. Do not want.
Looking back on this video before doctor strange came out was rather adorable.
Never piss off giant man/ yellow jacket because you will get your head off
18:45 Jesus Christ? Ya sure you're looking at it a bit too hard? I just thought he programmed the robot to love the Scarlet Witch, expecting it to either kill Quicksilver, or the Scarlet Witch, or possibly both in a jealous rage. After learning of one or both of his children's death would cause him to go nuts and use the brotherhood to try and destroy the heroes. Whether or not he succeeded, the heroes would likely be too weak to stop Doom's forces from taking over. Still a stupid ass plan, but I don't think he expected it to go down in such a convoluted manner. Or I could just be wrong and he really thought he'd be able to win with that nonsense
You know, I'm not a huge fan of Linkara's humor. It's just not my thing. But...
The science fail rant scene was perfect. Good job. That was hilarious
Then why are you here?
Kimi FW to be fair. He didn’t say he didn’t like Linkara. He just said he didn’t like his humor.
I wonder if Sam Jackson was like hey instead of suing you Marvel for using my likeness as Nick Fury. I will just demand that you actually make me him in the film universe and we will be even.
So were all the people that died by Mystiques count not counted because they were off screen or were they lies by Mystique?
Yeah, the Kill Counter should have gone haywire when this comic opened.
They killed Daredevil off screen too...
Hey, turns out you were KINDA right about the Doom-bot thing! It was an IMPOSTER Doom. And I give NO f---s about spoiling who it is, due to how ABSOLUTELY ludicrous (yet oddly consistent with the REST of this tripe) it is: Mary. Storm. Which means, the Thing just killed Johnny and Sue's freaking MOM! 😂 And none of these morons even find out until later! 😂😂😂 Thank God for retcons! For every one that's just flat-out stupid, there's at least a dozen others that are HILARIOUSLY stupid! And no, I don't know how that happened! Read about it online, and didn't see much point in looking up more information.
That doesn't make as much sense as the Granny Goodness reveal, it somehow makes even less sense.
The reason Blob ate Wasp was because they need to rip off Attack on Titan with a giant monster biting off someone's head.
this was before Attack on Titan was a thing
Now that the Ultimate Universe is back in existence, I can only hope that the events of Ultimatum have been undone.
10 years of ultimatum
Jeff Loeb should've honestly went to Superpower wikia and looked at Magnetic Field Manipulation,or read ANY X-men comic that used a better Magneto, or read a book about magnetic fields,or....
Dunno about Ultimate Mags, but I believe regular ol' Mags had the ability to generate electricity in addition to the magnetism. So I could almost kinda buy the idea of him using electricity to cauterize the wound.
Except the panel doesn't make it clear at all if that's what he's supposed to be doing.
"Some Blond Woman, who is that?"
I was going to suggest "Black Canary," but then I realized she's DC. So, I got nothing.
Honestly the whole plan to set two enemies against each other so they will both be weak enough for you to defeat the winner is a fine plan, but it is the plan the robots had, and the plan Doom had, so only watching/reading these ultimate/ultimatum event books looks really repetitive and stupid. What, after the robots set magneto and the ultimate against each other and fight the winner, then Doom is gonna fight the winner between them? Then would Dormamu show up to fight the winner of that fight? Then would Ultron fight the winner of that fight? And was all of this really a secret plan by Galatcis to have Earth fight each other until everyone was either dead or confused as to who was trying to take them over?
Actually...that wouldn't be a bad way for the series to have gone. Would have been better than the shit we got.
Spencer McClure but which galactus are we talking about here the 616 galactus or the ultimate universe galactus
the funny thing is this doctor doom was a impostor and not the real doctor doom but sue and johnny mother
I hate ultimatum so much because it ruined a lot of my favorite ultimate characters plus it Killed 99% of the cast
Trevor Anthony I can understand that
when I saw the Blob in the issue where je dies, I got the random idea that this could be some zombie blob from another dimension of marvel zombies. It would at least explain the cannibalism from the earlier issue
I remember reading somewhere that the working title for this series was Heaven on Earth and they changed it to this just before syndication to make it obvious it was a sequel to Ultimates 3. This is why Magneto says "heaven on Earth" so overdramatically as if it were the damn title.
HAIL HYDRA says cap 2 years later
Yeah, watching this after the ridiculous Hydra Cap BS puts a spin on the video that is both sad and funny.
"Originally uploaded May 23rd, 2011."
This Ultimate Cap, a proven badass. Hydra Cap is traditional 616 Cap, a boy scout.
I wouldn't be surprised if the big twist of secret empire is going to be that it was Ultimate Cap the whole time. .... Would that be lazy writing? Yes. BUT IT WOULD PROBABLY BE A BETTER ENDING THAN WHATEVER THE REAL ENDING IS GOING TO BE.
+YOU ARE A PIE It's one of those things. The Cosmic Cube doesn't just grant wishes, more like the heart's desire. So who knows the full extent of what Red Skull wished for?
Red Skull did used a cloned body of Steve Rogers for some time though...
9:08 Our heroes are crazy! Our villains our crazy! Hey let’s all just go crazy!
8:00
"My Ancestral Demon army will ride a cosmic sphere
And liberate the multiverse from slavery and fear!
With the power of the crystal, from an ancient galaxy!
The force of evil shall prevail, it is my destiny!"
How is it that a parody of power metal can have a villain with a more coherent ultimate destruction plot than Marvel?
Is that Gloryhammer?
The Ultimates Universe: the equivalent of the DC reboot universe
Because it made every hero unlikeable?
The Blob being free to go eat Wasp implies that Magneto couldn’t think of a single useful contribution he could make to his evil plan
14:21 Dormammu, I have come to bargain!
17:16 Power I can understand but how can you possibly think that Magneto would not have the will to destroy the Human Race?
and to think that doctor doom is the ruler in secret wars
18:46 Meanwhile, the real Doctor Victor von Doom is probably off conquering a parallel universe with plans that actually make sense, and feeling pleased to have escaped from the Hell that the Ultimate dimension had become.
Autobot Starscream
You're not that far off actually. Ultimate Doom, was at this point trapped in the Marvel Zombies universe. The Doom killed here is actually Mary Storm, Sue and Johnny's mother. He does later escape, but I'm not sure if they ever explained why.
ricemazter That's what I was thinking of, tbh. :3
Autobot Starscream
Ah, I was always disappointed that the zombies universe never did anything with ultimate doom. I read most of the MZU and they never bring him up.
+ricemazter To be fair, Doom arrived just after they ate Galactus. His chances of survival should have been zero. Plus I'm pretty sure he had some kind of Lovecraftian Bomb in his chest still...
pious83 yup that’s right
It's kind of funny watch this episode after that last comic of captain america "Hail hydra"
Yeah, fuck Nick Spencer.
Eamonn Deane Evans: “WHO AM IIIIIIII?!”
dormaru is my fave character in mvc3fo2w
9:10 Our heroes are crazy! Our villains are crazy! Hey lets all just go crazy!! 16:08 BULLCRAP!!! That’s not what you said last time!! You said magnetic poles! The magnetic poles are not the same as the axial poles!!! 20:49 AMERICA! F** Yeah! What ya gonna do when we come for you now!?
when I read this way back when I thought he was using asteroid M, Smashing it down into the ocean to create the tidal waves. but admittedly that probably me making an assumption.
"Originally uploaded May 23th, 2011."
...23th?
+AntonyBlalock Fixed.
You've never heard of May 23th? It's the secret day between May 23rd and 24th.
Valid English in the 17th century ("three and twentieth"). 🤔
22:18- At least they put the start of that vurse on Nick Fury's tombstone at the end of "Captain America: The Winter Soldier."
SpeedyEric1 Interestingly enough, most of the Bible verse from the movie is made up. It actually reads like this: "I will carry out great vengeance on them and punish them in my wrath. Then they will know that I am the Lord, when I take vengeance on them." - Ezekiel 25:17.
this show is excellent!
I love it!!
I appreciate that they tried to tie into Magneto's Jewish heritage with Xavier comparing him to the man who was indirectly responsible for the death of his family... BUT YOU FUCKED IT UP, MARVEL!
Funny story, Ultimate Magneto wasn't a concentration camp survivor. Pretty sure there was a early throwaway line about his family being from Texas...
20:15 “More than meets the eye
Transformers
Robots in disguise
Transformers...”
Mad, me no I'm just hangry.
I have a question, why didn't the other dead heroes end up with Cap and Thor?
+Alex Lee captain america worship nordic deities, he was kind of secular about it
Huh that's pretty cool.
+alucardyoici joke or?
Would the answer really make you that happy?
***** the answer would make me indifferent, it was just a simple question
If something is T+ it's like the equivalent aid an R Rated movie. If it's M it's like an NC17, at least I think that's how it works
18:47 he was kinda of right, it was later retconned that the Doom of Ultimatium was really Mary Storm not Doctor Doom.
Funny because she appears a lot of times in the background, Continuity alarm AGAIN
I dunno, Doom's plan still kinda makes sense to me. If you get two foes to punch each other in the face until one goes down, whoever wins is still gonna be weakened in some way. If Magneto had won after this, he would have one less arm, and if the Ultimates had won after this, they would be down a bunch of heroes. Doom's only mistake was not staying out and recruiting forces to quietly sit in Latveria until someone lost... But how was he supposed to know Latveria would freeze over?
Also Noah's sons and their wives. They were there too.
Also also Noah and his wife are cousins, even besides from the whole everyone's-descended-from-two-people thing, and we're all descended from Noah's family. The Habsburgs are looking down on this shit.
9:18 To quote Spoony:
"Bitches be crazy, and I dont know what's going on"
What video is that quote from?
NU121493255 It's from Wrestle Wrestle on Hell in a Cell 2014.
The moment Brian Michael Bendis' fall from grace began
Bendis didn't write Ultimatum.
Im glad that Ultimates ended
In Ultimate FF the real doctor doom return after being sent to the zombie marvel universe and Had ultimate Johnny and Sue mum pose as him well he was gone
5:25 - 7:50 LEARNING TIME II 16:20 - 16:55 ENCORE
Wait so Magneto wanted revenge for Wanda’s death...but then caused a mass flood which killed Lorna...Favouritism? Or just bad writing? Or did they retcon Lorna being unrelated to him for some reason?
At least in Wolverine and the X-Men, Magneto was a good father to Polaris after Gambit broke her heart.
I love the "going crazy" part.
I wish someone would draw what Scarlet Witch in the beginning looks like minus the tiara and panels.
Magnetic poles? Well...that could just be orbital wobble.
There should have been an entire series about Cap and Thor fighting the undead and trying to get Valkyrie
actually if captain america and thor are fighting skeletons, why are the skeletons bleeding
so dormammu, how do you feel about making a bargin?
Didn't Ultron make Jocasta?
Joseph Hall In the main Marvel Universe, yes
In the 616 universe yes