The Downfall Of Modern Consoles
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- Опубліковано 16 бер 2022
- I, Doktor Skipper. Discuss why Consoles don't hit the same anymore
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What was your childhood console?
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Neighbor’s Wii
PlayStation 2 and Xbox 360
PS3 and Xbox 360
Online games/flash games
Wii and 360
idk about fortnite, but what killed consoles for me is the fact that there's no focus left on being social.
like you said in your video, it was so easy to get in party chats on the 360, open lobbies everyone had a mic on, and on SnD on CoD the mics were forced to game chat. idk, I feel like to community-feeling died after that console generation.
Yea. Xbox love parties are cool and all for some close friends playing different games, but a lot of the close friends I have I never would have found in the first place without social lobbies. I’ve met some of my best friends in life through random pre/post game lobbies. Yea you’d occasionally find the d bags or little squeakers but that’s why mute exists in the first place. Most of the time it was just chill and could also get hilarious.
@@novaterian7042 "Xbox Love parties"
Kinky
If I remember back then when I first discovered that I was like very impressed and satisfied at the same time that you can actually do that. I had a Star Wars themed Xbox 360 that came with star wars kinnect. Man those were some good times. I tested out the voice chat when I played Transformers war for Cybertron on the Xbox and let me tell you it was pretty fun and the first time I got into voice chat.
@@RadarHawk and I’m not changing it. Lmao
It was censorship too
Microsoft was so smart to release series S
most people don't care about 4k so making a cheaper console that only sacrifices a disk drive and 4k was genius
Love your vids man
It wasn’t only the disc drive tho.
Agree
Lmao what?
Dubbed 1440p machine, but most titles only run at 1080 so far
No disc drive so youre bound to Xbox Storefront pricing
Around 300 GBs free to use, Install Warzone and its over
Based on the OG Xbox One performance profile, so Xbox One X enhancements on older games won't work on Series S despite being a stronger console
Required Online Activation upon setting it up so it becomes E-waste eventually
There's a reason why store shelves are packed with it despite being in a pandemic. $300 is a super enticing price for a next gen console that gives you what you ask at HEART until you realize they cut all the limbs.
@@ptrcrispy bro what? The series s is a STEAL bro. For 300€ (or less if you get it with some deals) you get next gen graphics and performance+ game pass
I’ve stuck with my 360 and have no regrets, still feels original and never loses it’s charm
Wii, 360, and PS2 are probably the best consoles from the relevant 3
Must be over 30
Same for me with a PS3
@@ksspook
I’m just 18 and even I respect this man’s opinion
This year will be the 10 year anniversary of me getting my Xbox 360 and it still feels new to me. I had to save up for that shit.
The things I hate most about gaming these days are the over reliance on DLC and patches; just so that companies can rush out a broken game and release them just to make extra money while slightly fixing the games.
They are bloodsucking bastards with a high degree of contempt for their customers.
And when the studio does the bare minimum in fixing the game people call it a redemption arc, like they did with cyberpunk and fallout 76
Ay, the DLC for FromSoft’s Souls games are really godly though.
Dlc as a concept is fine. Releasing with it, is not.
Ye olde map packs or stuff that come out 1-2 years after release (of a complete and stable package) I have no issues with. SF6 costing full price and also having passes and character skins you gotta pay for I do have issues with.
Why company keep doing that? Ppl keep giving them money. If it works why bother. If we just didnt pre order didnt buy digital game on day 1 they will be forced to release proper game
I feel this video on a spiritual level. the xbox 360 was perfection.
the UI of browsing peoples profile, browsing achievements, Netflix watch parties, xbox arcade so many great features. I miss the 360 so much. wish we could get a remaster of it
The good times
360's original "Blades" UI Is my second favorite ever , after Playstation's XMB.
MW2 (really COD 2007-2012) & Xbox 360 were the best combo ever.
not sure I would call the 360 perfection, terrible dpad and the RROD held it back.
Netflix watch party ❤️❤️ and 1v100 or Dorito crash course ❤️
The 7th generation onwards is where I’ve started to notice a flattening trend in graphical improvements. The trend kicked off on November 22nd, 2005, Perfect Dark Zero, a launch title for the Xbox 360, marked the start of this trend. It was a “next gen game”, but Halo 2 on the Original Xbox still looked 100x better.
Many launch titles don't look that much different than previous gen games from late in the consoles lifespan. If you were to compare Halo 2 to Persona 5,The Last of Us,Final Fantasy XIII,Tales of Berseria, Skyrim,Grand Theft Auto 5,Gran Turismo 6,Soulcalibur V and Resident Evil 6 it would be a different story.
Dead or Alive 4 looked absolutely stunning on launch
That’s true. I can’t tell a difference between San Andreas and Red Dead 2. Those games look very similar
@@johngurwitz5203 I mean look at Street Fighter III and Street Fighter 1. SMH these generations have been useless for 30 years now.
@@johngurwitz5203 you can't tell a difference between.red.dead redemption 2 and San Andreas lmaoooo that has to be a joke bruh
Something that stands out to me as a 27 year old boomer is the fact that everything has updates now. Like, when I plugged my N64 in for the first time, I was playing Super Smash Bros instantly, and the game I got on launch, was the game I'm playing over a decade later, so they had to get it right the first time or not at all. Every console also had their own cozy and memorable menu style in the generation after that which made it stand out from each other and that's what it was like forever, and how it solidified in our minds over time.
Nowadays, everything's just kind of this formless mush of ever changing identity. Even the Xbox 360 as one platform had like three iterations of its menu that in my personal opinion got worse every time even if it may have become more efficient to actually navigate, and I think people just kinda figured like, "well, on PC I can just make it whatever I want anyway so that's kinda the most logical version of this."
As it always ever was, people want innovation and fixed identity that makes something stand out and be special, this is why Nintendo still sells a lot despite having underpowered hardware. When that general philosophy largely left the industry, exclusivity never really felt justified, because consoles just started to feel like low budget PCs you had less control over than a PC.
The problem isn't console vs. PC, it's choice vs no choice these days. The difference used to matter, now it does not. And honestly? I think this is an improvement too, because it's opening the market for stuff like Steam Deck to worm it's way in and get time to shine, where it's no longer about the platform, but the form factor in which you get to play, and the amount of customization and backwards compatibility you have.
This is the best possible outcome, my favorite thing about Xbox Series S for example was that with Devmode (before they started taking that away) you could load up Retroarch and play several generations of consoles on it. If we're going to have the formless identity, I hope they go whole hog with it and just continue to pursue better and more exciting ways ways of having said formlessness in the palms of our hands. Even VR has ways of just letting you sit down at a large virtual screen and play older non VR stuff inside of VR like with EmuVR.
I can relate to game updates. I want to play Dying Light 2 but I'm waiting for them to fix some game breaking bugs with it. Imagine if you bought a refrigerator and only 2 months after purchase it started cooling your food. Only in the tech industry can something like that happen. Fuck the world.
I feel you. I grew up with the PS1/Ps2 era and it’s been an adjustment getting used to modern consoles.
Did you have much connection to the OG 360 blade interface? I’ve always preferred that one, and like you have considered each new interface worse than the last, even if I appreciated the avatar feature, for example.
@@Ebalosus Yes, it wasn't the most efficient to navigate but it had a strong identity to it and... Well, to put it bluntly, less ads on my dashboard. Like, I already paid $60 a year just for the mere privilege of playing online, the least microsoft could do is not inundate me with ads on my gaming console for stuff I have no interest in, but alas. I wish Retroarch had an interface that mimicked that like it can mimic the PS3 interface.
Btw a Standalone PCSX2 released for the Xbox Series consoles recently and runs games better than the retroarch core
You're definitely hitting on some solid points here. Another thing to consider is gaming isn't evolving at the rate it used to. If you go back to like 1991 the NES was one of, if not the most popular console at the time. By 1999 we had the dreamcast come out which was a MAJOR upgrade. That's a really short time for such drastic improvement. For the last few generations we haven't really seen too many new major innovations.
For another good perspective, because of the new Switch Sports (sequel to Wii Sports) coming out, someone said that how long from the original Wii sports to now is actually LONGER than the timeframe between the original Wii sports to Super Mario World on the SNES. So, the timeframe from the SNES just getting started, to the era of the PS360 starting, was shorter than the PS360 to now. While the PS3 graphics haven't aged the best, they aren't as drastic as the changes from the NES to the GameCube for example.
I mean, outside of better lighting, particle effects, and this technique that makes skin softer and more natural looking, the PS4/XBONE games weren't all that noticeably better than the latter end PS360 games, and the PS5 and XBSX/SS don't really look different at all so far (though I suppose I haven't really paid attention to their graphics TBH). The newest gen just feels like an optimization of last gen, they aren't better graphically, but they run smoother and load faster, which is what PC has been doing for years.
Yeah, in 10 years we went from Super Mario Bros on NES to Super Mario 64 and Smash. Then in another 10 years we had Halo 3, Mario Kart Wii, and Smash Bros. That's a huge jump.
15 years later and it doesn't feel like gaming has evolved much besides graphics and framerate.
Dude nobody wants to pay a survice to play multiplayer online on console. That's the reason why, not the BS excuse of exclusively that he's talking about
open world games got really good in the 8th generation, but I hear what you are saying as in graphics didn't jump as much in the past, maybe just better resolution and frame rates.
Tcgdarren is right.
I'm only 24, but ever since I got my gamecube when I was 8 years old during xmas of 2005, I became an addict. I now have 30 consoles with the original boxes and over 400 physical games. It's... insane. Despite me having an XSX and a PS5, the only consoles I actually have an interest in playing are consoles such as the 360, PS3, and suchlike. I have the mental imagery in my head of what it was like shopping around in a Super Target, or a Gamestop during 2007.. and seeing the tall glass kiosks filled to the brim with actually meaningful legendary games and consoles that were actually worth a damn. Gaming took pride in itself back then, unlike how it does nowadays. Nothing... AND I MEAN NOTHING, will ever replicate the awesomeness of being a gamer in the mid to late 2000s. Nothing.
I think maybe back then gaming was an *experience*, now its just something to do because everyone else is doing it, and just a way to pass the time, once every derp & derpina piled in it just became a thing to do for the lack of other things to do, and to keep non-trad gamers hooked, gaming was reduced to the lowest common denominator, and that ripped out the spirit of what that experience was. True gamers would turn up their noses at bad gaming, but non-trads seem to be in the majority now & will eat up any garbage shovelled them, then scream for more and bring their politics with them.
@@dazintheoven Maybe let's not gatekeep gaming? :D
I don't disagree with you, though - the current state of the industry is the way it is because people let all the BS big gaming publishers do slide... Players fully control the industry with their bucks, the problem is that the major public doesn't seem to really care that much...
But honestly, I find it hard to genuinely blame people for that. I respect people who just want to have fun time with games without being overly serious about them. The sad thing is, though, it strips them away of critically looking into what they're being fed and making a conscious purchase. Heck, even experienced gamers fall for it - I've seen dozens of cases of people who were into games for at least a decade; they still preordered Battlefield 2042.
Maybe it's because we still want to believe in good games?
We are being so oversaturated with... *everything* nowadays, and it's the global struggle of self-control we're talking about here, not just games at this point. We are writing essays here in the comments of a videohosting service, mind it (...or maybe just me). We as a species weren't prepared for such overabundance... Of course we're going to have time with that.
Well, at least nobody took away the classics from us! And you know, I'm personally happy with few good games coming out lately - it means I have more time for older goodies and, well, life :)
(He said, as he was writing a thesis in UA-cam comments.)
I'll go touch some grass...
To be honest, I think its just us getting old. Boomers say the same thing "Back in the 90's, the games were better! Nothing can replicate that era..." (They always use ... For some reason☠️) but yeah, I think it's just us growing old.
@@nok4799 Maybe, but I think its more like we're remembering a time that was unlike any other & those who grew up after (and maybe before) struggle to understand. Like (in a few years time) someone who's formative years has been spent playing Overwatch & similar games, trying telling people who grew up 10 years before & 10 years after about the culture & the atmosphere of the players & the gaming experience, those guys will never fully get it, not b/c theyre too old or too young, simply that they werent part of it. I think every geek is gonna get sentimental at some point!
@@nok4799 Even if the age matter is not the sole reason of this feeling, it certainly adds to it!
But, sadly, AAA games are overall getting weaker in terms of design, gameplay mechanics, innovation, story, everything but visuals, really... (an ellipsis... maybe i *am* becoming a boomer)
Too bad mainstream gaming is all we have! It's not like the industry has more independent, visionary creators who are free to express their bold ideas and innovations! Oh well, guess I'll go play FIFA100500 now.
The thing I hate about gaming nowadays is the focus on hyper realism and the endless copycat's that focus on following trends instead of even trying to innovate. outside of a select few games that manage to stand out from the majority.well there's that and the sense of community which has slowly faded out like seriously it's surprising when I actually find a person on mic which can hold a decent conversation.
Not to mention, slimy microtransactions. Remember paid loot boxes in star wars battlefront 2 (2017) and other AAA games doubling down on microtransactions. It put a very bad taste in my mouth for 8th gen gaming. I now have a PS5 but, I need to be diligent in what games I buy. I do not mind F2P games that have cosmetic items as the only microtransactions or that are P2W in a sense where you can still grind for those weapons or champions within a reasonable time frame.
Hyperrealism... They got me fixing to just go outside. Everything in HD, real time, no lag etc
Gaming consoles are useless anyways.
Better get a gaming laptop, it can do a lot more than just playing games. Plus you won't be limited to the console specific titles.
It might cost more, but will last longer and will be much more of a use.
Gaming evolution has stalled. So many games look and play the same. Companies aren't taking risks. Same thing is happening with Hollywood. I think this is a symptom of a wider issue on how CEOs are running these companies. Accountants are in charge and creatives are being ignored.
Yep, and that's why it is hard to recognize 9th gen game vs 8th gen game, while we can easily recognize 7th gen game (PS3) vs 8th gen game (PS4)
Consoles went from being more convenient and less obtuse than computers to becoming somehow more obtuse and less convenient. combine that with "always online", live-service, increasingly broken games that need massive updates (not available to those whos consoles arent connected online) and the steady removal of features such as multiplayer and you have the recipe for the slow steady death of a once beloved column of gaming.
Still got an Xbox original and Xbox 360 though, so thats nice. wish i still had my PS2 and the games on it, but alas.
Consoles or at the very least ps4 and ps5 are way easier and faster to boot up and play a game. You don’t have to install 5 different game clients like steam or uplay to even buy the game. There’s also driver updates for graphics cards that at times doesn’t work properly and the same games that are broken on consoles are also broken on pc. Furthermore if people want to keep playing AAA games for a whole gen they will either have to upgrade their rig or buy a new one, which also isn’t the easiest in the world. And it’s not like pc doesn’t have drm.
I never understood the problem with 'always online'. That's what everyone is anyways. Especially on PC
@@apfelschorle1988 drm often makes the games worse just look it up.
@@ibleminen very true for a few selected cases on PC where DRM worsens the performance noticeably and in rare cases even bugs. But on console it works completely different, on a system level instead and not with the games themselves. The console only asks the server if the current user has purchased the game and that's it. The console has to connect to the servers every 48 hours or so.
@@apfelschorle1988 not so sure about that on Xbox. Their servers were down and people couldn’t even play single player games due to the drm. When Microsoft stops the servers in the future it’s basically just waste.
Its sad that in this day and age that the console war BS is still happening. It's like those people are stuck in 2007.
The amount of complaints I heard when PS exclusives went to PC is insane. As if Sony had committed some great sin. When the MCC came to PC, I wasnt upset because Halo wasnt an xbox exclusive anymore, I was happy that my PC friends and I could finally play together and that I could freak them out with my concerning amount of Halo knowledge
Everything should be on PC so that you can add and modify content, play in VR, not have to own a console, and continue playing indefinitely without needing emulators. Consoles are now unnecessary, and eventually won't be made anymore.
console wars fun
Lmao yall cant admit pc is superior
I've noticed that the console wars are exclusively fought by the PS fanboys, they are the only ones that still care. PS fanboys are a unique breed that's for sure, they've always been the most fervent to their brand. You would think Nintendo fans would be because they still stand apart uniquely from the competition, but they learned very early on that having multiple consoles is a good thing, or even better: the Nintendo and PC combo. While the Xbox fans slowly got over their bias last gen because so many skipped out on the XBOne for the PS4, while those that did get it were usually disappointed at first or quickly realized how little they were missing out on (Bloodborne, GOW 4, and Spiderman are the ONLY good exclusives on there, unless I forgot one), and now Gamepass has quickly made XBONE superior to PS4 in a lot of ways (though they are still mostly the same). And of course, the recent releasing of Exclusives to PC has quickly made the console wars purely obsolete as neither system provide enough uniqueness to be worth defending, merely preference.
@@sta5011 What are you on about? Of course PC can offer a better experience than console. But that being said, you can't get a PC that performs as well as the Series X or PS5 for the same price as those consoles. And not everyone has a grand or two of disposable income lying around for an awesome gaming rig.
God, I feel old. The first console I bought myself was the original PS1, and the last one I bought was the Xbox 360. After that, I just... stopped regularly playing games, for some reason.
Well, actually, I know the reason - I turned into depressed Grandpa Simpson - but it also means so much of video game culture's evolution left me as a passive observer. I watch more videos *about* video games these days than I play them myself.
Actual fossil
There definitely is something off and different about games in general nowadays. It's too much about the never-ending "Live Service" games or games designed to just sell you more stuff, or just open world boxes (no sand included) with menial tasks to complete. Like the new Lego Star Wars is just that, an open box that makes you walk back and forth to watch cutscenes while the occasional fight happens that practically plays itself, lacking all the charm and fun of the original.
It's all Ubisoft Open world clones, or boring Uncharted-esque "hold stick forward to win the cinematic experience" games, both of which have several money-making schemes built in. At least Dark Souls brought back some life into games before the clones came in to sap the uniqueness away while not allowing any other alternatives. Even Yakuza lost a lot of its uniqueness by becoming just another RPG.
It's certainly not all doom and gloom, plenty of great games still, but there is this heavy wet blanket over gaming that is hard to ignore. And certainly, some genres are more affected than others. I weep for horror games, because they are all boring walking simulators, and the only ones that are decent aren't scary (like the new Resident evils are nice, but lacking, and are plagued with a lot of modern game design tropes that hurt the experience, and aren't any scarier than RE5 and 6 were, as in not at all, but those had more content and strategy to their gameplay somehow). But Shooters are still in a good place if you are willing to cast aside the old guard of CoD/BF/Halo for something new, and that's even if you hate the Battle Royale stuff.
@@DoktorSkipper 💀
This!!!
You feel old, I remember getting the original nes in late 1986 with Metroid and Zelda.
Ever since I got a nintendo swtich. I've been trying to try to find the same high I felt with the gamecube and wii. But outside some games like Mario oddesy and luigi's mansion 3 nothing has come close to the high I felt with pokemon colosseum, mario strikers and super smash bros brawl.
hehh... True... I wish theyd have more retro games on there
I can definitely see what you mean. The Switch is a huge seller with some of the best games of the generation for many, but it doesn't FEEL like it, unlike the Wii. But I think this can be explained by either our personal age (just getting old I suppose) or society's current apathetic feeling for everything. It feels like no matter how big it is, it's still a coinflip if it feels big. The Wii was big, and you could feel it, as well as the other 2 consoles feeling Big in their own way at the time. Yet I wasn't so enthralled with the N64 or PS1 era though, but I have a lot of love and nostalgia for the Wii U of all things. So maybe this is just a slow generation, or perhaps it's the lack of the social connection. Perhaps Miiverse made Wii U special enough that the Switch feels lacking, like how Wii was everywhere on TV and had the initial boom of internet memes to propel it socially too. Much like how the video mentions online play as being the thing that made the PS360 so special.
Smash ultimate is the best game on the switch and the only reason why I bought one
@@GBDupree nononono there's actually a reason for that. a complete lack of soul in most modern nintendo games is the root cause. tbf mario odyssey is probably the best exclusive on the system but besides that there's not much else that feels distinctly nintendo
yeah it's because you're older dude lmao that's how life works
I’m 25 and I remember the day that my parents bought my older brother and I a 360 and MW2. I remember the first time getting a kill streak or that dope music que when you leveled up. I remember exchanging gamer tags in high school so you could play custom games on halo 3 after school. I think we definitely grew up in the golden age of online gaming and I wouldn’t change it for the world. Good vid skipper :)
Grandpa
I agree 7th gen was the golden age of online console gaming , but golden age of single player and the Industry In general ended after 6th.
The 7th Gen was the golden age for me, we will never see games like those ever again.
Oh Exactly
7th gen was overrated and aged poorly. There’s no reason to go back to any of them,almost everything has been ported.
@@KnucklesWTD The RaCF games have not been ported 😉
Better than the modern RaCs by a mile
@@rac1equalsbestgame853 I only played tools of the destruction and that felt like more of the same as the ps2 games. Wasn’t that impressive
@@KnucklesWTD Tools wasnt great (like RaC3 but better and worse in places) but Crack in Time is fantastic. In hindsight ToD's graphics look more even more dated than those of the PS2 games
Being 26 almost 27, I've seen gaming grow and change from the time I was three to now. I think when you talk about socialization it all depends on if you grew up with it or not. When I was 8 years old that's when Xbox live started to really become a thing. We're talking about the original Xbox that he's here when it was in its prime. Prior to that, it was all LAN or split screen co-op. You started gaming in a time where that was becoming the norm. And now that it's commonplace and they don't really add to it it just doesn't feel the same. People don't want to go into open lobbies and talk with others anymore because they can have private party chats talk with people they really want to talk with and not have anybody screaming at them for 2 seconds. To put it bluntly, you feel this way because it was what you you up with and now that it's stagnated you kind of feel like something is missing. I'll tell you, I don't play multiplayer games. They bore me to death. There was a time when I did enjoy it, but the novelty quickly wore off. And it simply because I didn't grow up with it and a lot of the games that are multiplayer aren't in the genre of games I care about. This is normal especially when you become an adult and you see how commonplace certain things are. That's why consoles don't hit for you as much as they would somebody else, but people that are way younger than us 5 to 8 years old don't feel this way. Those that do, are pretty much the outliers. I'm sorry, I'll stop rambling. This is just the thoughts of someone that's been in the game and culture for the better part of 24 years and I understand how you feel in this aspect. Just know it happens.
I think it could also be that the team based puzzle games are severely underdeveloped and that’s where a lot of the long term bonds would have been built.
(I’m thinking Portal 2 type games, except larger)
@@AlxndrHQ Maybe. I'm usure.
26 years old here turning 27 this year. I grew up with PS1 & PS2. Single player games and couch co-op was my bread and butter and what was gaming for me. PS3 era was new and exciting because of multiplayer but honestly I’m more excited these days for the amazing single player games coming out this generation.
@@GabrielFrags You see, that's another thing too. Went online gaming became the norm, video game started to become mainstream and that was a lot of the Public's first exposure to the medium. Nowadays, I'm seeing a lot of people shy away from online gaming to some extent. Games like Elden ring have shown that online multiplayer kind of gets bored after a while you don't always have to be online and play with people to have fun. If the trend keeps up especially if companies jam microtransactions and the light down north roads we might see a Renaissance in single player gaming if we haven't already. The only reason it became popular back in the PS3 and Xbox 360 arrow was it was a new concept with new infrastructure. However, that generation didn't really introduce anything groundbreaking. Neither did the PS4 generation. There hasn't been this new thing for gamers to watch on to. For the 16 bit era it was the console wars, for the 32-bit and 64-bit errors it was 3D graphics and gaming. For the PlayStation 2 and Xbox era it was an expansion of video game storytelling in the beginning of the online multiplayer we know of today. The last two generations haven't had anything like that. What has set the PS4 and PS5 generations apart so far is their willingness to embrace single player games and move away from multiplayer games.
I think this is a good thing. Now, multiplayer games won't go away, obviously. I can see them being less prominent if this trend keeps up especially again, with the microtransactions being jammed down people's throats. I think gamers have started to catch on to what publishers are trying to do and they're becoming more selective with the games they're starting to play. A game like Elden ring back during Xbox live's Hay Day we're talking like 2005 to 2008 wouldn't have been nearly as popular.
Does every single player game have to be a fantasy rpg soulsborne geeky thing? Or yet another endless open world sandlot with tons of menial tasks to make it "realistic"? I think the crux of the matter is, whether single or multiplayer, creativity has stagnated, and evermore centralization (everything pc, everything online, everything steam) does not help matters.
As someone who grew up with the Wii U & 2DS I feel like I was in the last generation of kids who actually cared about the box that played the games and enjoyed games with stories/campaigns.
I was so close to having a Wii U, but the Switch rumors are why I never got one.
No, I'm 13. I'll buy a ps5 for Christmas. And I also want to play single player story games
I love single-player story games
As someone born in 2002, I felt like I missed a bunch of stuff. However, I'm lucky that I got the childhood of the 360 generation. Also, as someone who got their first computer in 2015 just for TF2, Skype was a godsend. The times before Discord were dark but iconic.
To this day, I still spend most of my time catching up on all the 6th gen classics which I never got the chance to play as a kid because of other hobbies and commitments. I had an Xbox 360 all throughout high school but I just couldn't fall in love with the library and online-centered gameplay from 7th gen onwards. I've been playing through Resident Evil 4 and Silent Hill 2 recently and I've been having a blast. It's just such a cosy feeling turning on my shitty CRT, hearing that iconic PS2 start-up sound and playing through all the early 3D classics that made modern gaming what it is.
One big advantage that PC has over consoles is that if you buy something on Steam, it stays in your library forever, even if you get a new PC. But with consoles, you often have to buy new versions of the games you already own on a previous generation's console. For example, if you buy GTA V on Steam, you can keep upgrading your PC and it will still stay there. However if you bought GTA V on the PS3, you had to buy it again on the PS4 and the PS5.
"... you can keep upgrading your PC..."
Lost me and many normies there, specially as I only care to have a laptop I only replace when it inevitably breaks every few years.
That said, the convergence is happening, in which consoles are adding evermore of their library to their servers and gaining PC-level power, therefore blurring the line; and likewise, dedicated gaming PCs are becoming evermore like consoles, trying to have gimmicks and exclusive features that set them apart, therefore also blurring the line.
Perhaps exclusive features will include temporarily exclusive games; in fact, as console and gaming PC companies converge into selling the same standardized machine experience to everyone, perhaps they will resort to trading devs/studios/gaming franchises, as in sports, and do more and more of the publishing themselves (see MS-Activision), in order to try to one up each other based on games alone. Many cool indie games will get their chance to be online everywhere, but also will be exposed to way more competition than the one in a single console system...
I grew up on Team Nintendo, but always looked forward to growing up and being able to afford to have every console whenever a new generation came out instead of having to pick one and wait until the others and their games became dirt cheap toward the end of their lifespans, but these days I seem to find myself doing just fine with only a Switch even though I could easily afford all three.
Yeah, Switch is my go to despite its weaker hardware. Multitasking in watching TV while playing Switch I do all the time.
You use the switch because you like nintendo, I use the switch because it's the easiest console of its generation to jailbreak, we are not the same
@@soooslaaal8204 I tend not to mod or do anything to my consoles and they still work, consoles form the 1980's until now. But you do you, I don't mind paying to support games like Zelda, Xenoblade, etc.
Props to you for using an over dramatic title, “downfall”. These UA-camrs are getting worse than mainstream media for their quick cash grabs.
i agree
OMFG YES
i remember getting a ps3 super slim (super late to the game i know) but i sunk loads of hours playing skyrim i was just very much blown away by the world me and my friends would talk about different experiences we had in the game. It was awesome.
Hey, youre not the only one. I got mine last year and honestly i didnt regret getting it, after seeing how many AAA games nowadays are lazy or just an opinion from a salty dev that think different opinion is -ist, -phobic etc. Honestly games in that era was very well build and completed, playing GOW3 on it was amaizing, im still collecting more titles and download few demos to test if the game is fun enough. Honestly theres a lot of titles from Sony and 3rd party that i didnt even know existed in that console like Folklore, Journey etc
@@tfgenobatssasin1788 u should try to hunt down house of the dead overkill uncut super great game
Yup i played Skyrim for the first time in 2017 on my PS3. I was amazed by this game, played everyday for hours. Never had such experience again
A PC is a no-no for me, because I takes a dedicated space for itself. The TV is used not only for console gaming, but a gaming PC would demand a whole corner with a dedicated desk all for itself.
The 7th gen is the last generation where the consoles felt like... consoles. Still own my PS3 and took my cousin's unused Wii and what a blast to the past. All I need is the 360. The PS4 and PS5 are collecting dust while I had to replace the thermal paste in my superslim for long play sessions.
Everything worth playing has been ported.
@@KnucklesWTD There are no RaCF games on the PS4/5. There is no Infamous 1 and 2 on the PS4/5. There is no RaC PS2 Trilogy + Deadlocked on PS4/5.
@@rac1equalsbestgame853 those games aren’t enough for me when 95% are ported. Plus you could always emulate them if you really want. 360 is even worse considering most of its big games were multiplayer games that have dead servers now. And the Wii has the motion control gimmick that got boring before the generation even ended.
7th gen to me is just a worse version of the 6th gen. PS4 to me was the best console since the PS2, and once it’s totally phased out people will realize that. It’s not nostalgic yet so it doesn’t get it’s flowers.
@@KnucklesWTD You'll need a beast of a PC to emulate PS3 games dude... just find a PS3 for cheap, mod it and that is cheaper
@Shin-Nioh I have put tons of playtime on my Nintendo Switch, PS3 and Wii and still am putting time in them. I still replay old Ratchet and Clank, Infamous, Monster Hunter Rise, Bayonetta, etc. It is just the PS4/5 and that feel just souless to me, and have yet to shown something that truly interests me, there was the new Ratchet but that was a massive dissapointment.
If Spartacus has a good game lineup (at least the GOOD Ratchet games) I might dig into that and clean the dust off of them for once but it already lost my hype with the anouncement of PS3 games having to be streamed yet again 🙄
I think one optimistic element I see in modern gaming unlike others is it feels like there is a little corner for everyone. While I hate every big title now, there is always at least one banger of a random 15 dollar steamgame for me every year.
Yeah, but you have to look deep and research for that random little corner. [Obviously gaming media (including youtubers/podcasters/etc) love that you do research and consume their product too, so they will encourage you to do that.] Meanwhile one stays in that little corner, while most live and die chasing the trends in the unified crossplay pc-tablet landscape. There are no more medium-sized corners (consoles) to hide in. Then again, many a cult game died stuck in a console that didn't sell, see Dreamcast ones; but it's not like a balance can't be found between that and getting stuck in a lonely Steam download page because you're not a battle royale clone...
I'm glad you touched on the toxic COD voice chat. I miss it so much and people think I'm weird. There was a level of camaraderie shared between strangers on the internet through childish insults that you just don't get anymore. Game companies are deliberately trying to remove this completely to "protect" people who can't handle it and it's sad.
how long until we outlaw language to protect people
@@indeepjable next thing you any form of language as a whole would be removed because of some random snowflakes on Twitter
person breathes and immediately gets executed for emitting audio (very offensive]
@@nocturnaliism if they get their way you won't have the right to use social media unless you have their political view.
@@elitetripod4188 oh no, that would be hell (although Facebook not being an immediate right is actually a pretty good thing)
The advantage to having consoles is that occasionally the games are cheaper, and the ability to play used games. I remember the first time I actually had minecraft for myself was when I bought a used copy that was verified to run at $15 instead of the typical 30. Also I still play on my old ass 2008 ps3 because of metal gear solid, ratchet and clank, and batman arkham series
Yeah, I sometimes get a good deal on physical media, better than the so called digital sales on both console and PC. Nintendo seems to be the only one left that is sticking to physical media working as soon as you pop it in (for the most part) though.
Modern consoles don't hit the same because the way games generate money has dramatically changed. Aka, executives at developer companies have become extremely greedy, careless, and out of touch. Xbox 360 was truly a fantastic era that unfortunately won't happen again.. So many great games. We're lucky to still have that library, but what really sucks is when you try to play them on xbox live today, they feel so lonely and empty when they were once abundant with players.
Best video essayist by far imo. Gotta love that crisp audio to play in the background while doing other tasks
I’m 15, so I grew up mainly with the 8th gen of consoles. When I was 6, me and my brother got a Wii U and 3ds for Christmas, and my fondest gaming memories still come from those systems (we had a Wii for 2 years but I don’t remember as much from it). It wasn’t until I turned 9, that I was finally able to convince my mom to get me a Ps4, and I loved it to death. While I had to share the Nintendo consoles with my brother, the Ps4 was the only one I could really call mine. I had it for about 3 years, but it broke right at the beginning of lockdown, when it was super hard to get ahold of consoles. Luckily, I was able to find a new Xbox one S from Walmart for pretty cheap, and its really brought me through Covid. And even though all the kids at my school are talking about the Ps5 and PC, I have no intentions of getting them in the near future. The games that I sink hours into now (Cod BO4, GTA V, Far Cry 4), will always be playable on my Xbox. Not only that, but it feels like games coming out now focus too much on looking the best and being realistic, which are two of the things I care the least about in a game.
So for now, I'm 100% sticking with what I have :)
Dude, thanks for making this video. I’ve been honestly trying to figure out what about console gaming is not so alluring to me anymore. This video definitely highlighted a lot of things I’ve not been able to quite put my finger on. I enjoyed this immensely.
Just found your channel today and all the music references you use are a treat!
As a person who loves and grew up playing on consoles, the reason I wasn't hyped for this next gen is because they have nothing going for it. Back in the 360 and ps3 days or hell even before that, console gaming had a place because there were tons of exclusives that was used as a brilliant way to advertise their consoles and on top of that it was just getting into the online multiplayer and friends era where tons of people would play with each other and make friends and almost every match of Halo would have some people talking. The consoles also had a lot of style, the UI and the color schemes.
But now, the latest consoles don't have any of that. Sure, they have better hardware, but it lacks all of the stuff that made it so great. People don't game chat anymore, most people moved to pc, the UI for the Xbox One and Series X is the most boring uninspired thing ever, there aren't as many good exclusives especially for the xbox, and the game industry has hit the shitter recently with all the games being lazily made and released broken with tons of microtransactions and no passion. It is a sad era for video games. I guess you can call this era: The Great Game Depression. (2014-2022)
But before this era, the era before was the best era of gaming, I would like to call: The Peak of Gaming. (2000-2013)
7th gen was only an online Golden Age imo , even though It did have a few strong sp years and some of the best hardware ever.
Everything from 2005 - 2010 felt like more of a Silver Age , and then every year from 2011 - now Is just decent to depressingly bad.
IMO
1998 - 2004 = The Peak Of Gaming.
1985 - 2004 = Overall Industry Golden Age.
2000-2013 is The Peak of Gaming consoles.
PC titles still solid af!
@@fawkkyutuu8851 Facts. The 360/Ps3 generation started of good, halfway through the industry went downhill.
Greedy developers and DLC killed gaming.
i still remember seeing my friends fighting over which was the best, 360 or ps3, while i just vibed on my wii
twilight princess is still my favorite game of all time. i 100% it at least once a year
I don’t know man, I’ve just got a Series X, been playing with my work friends and it’s been the most fun I’ve ever had in a console, I think I just needed some time off from games to make me appreciate them again, and it’s way different playing them now compared to when I was a kid, it’s just a chill get away now which I think is where the new enjoyment comes from
Imo I think it's just people playing the same franchises and same type of games. When I got my PS5 the first game I play is ff7r which I never played a ajrpg. Once of the best experience I had recently
Oh nice! Great way to start my Friday! I’ve watched your red vs blue video so many times dude. Great videos skipper, Dam I think that clip of the open game chat was the only one with out a certain word being screamed over and over again 😅😅
The gamer word
@@DoktorSkipper ya for sure 😅😅😅 thanks again for the video your ass will be at 100k soon you’re gonna need to pick a spot to hang that UA-cam plaque on the wall
I was a Playstation gamer back when i was young.
Many years has passed i am playing Halo MCC for 1000+ hours on PC.
I know a lot of people like that now lol
Can't wait to watch your 1 million sub special soon because with this quality of content there's no way it's not happening. Amazing video man, you've perfectly wrapped up my feelings about consoles without me even being able to put it into words, great job.
Appreciate the kind words thumbs up 👍
Man idk why I’m even commenting that on a 1 yrs old video but idc. I LOVE your channel man it’s like a Time Capsule from back in the days. It’s simply beautiful, awsome work gg
Excellent video. Fascinated to hear more about kids being into VR, as an old old man I have no knowledge of this.
I still find MW 2019 so refreshing because voice chat was generally used a lot and it felt a lot more like the older CODs
I grew up with the Wii and Wii U, so many of the things the X360 and PS3 propelled is still new to me. I never saw a personal interest to play games like CoD or GTA, they just didn’t interest me.
I remember feeling such highs playing games like Mario Galaxy 2, Mario Kart Wii and Sonic Colours for the first time, it felt special. I didn’t feel that with XBOX and PlayStation.
After I found out that Minecraft exists and some Next-Gen Sonic games, I got my hands on an XBOX 360, but never went online with it (it was 2015 at this point). Playing games like Minecraft and Sonic Unleashed & Generations were special in their own way.
Something I feel is different from the norm is that I like single-player games with some story attached. It’s why I never got into Fortnite, but I really enjoy Mario Galaxy.
I got an XBOX ONE X, but after Minecraft released on Wii U, I didn’t bother with the ONE X anymore, and just sold it.
Playing games like Sonic 06 was also interesting, seeing how overblown the hate was.
I got great experiences out of games like Xenoblade 2, Sonic Mania and Mario Odyssey.
For PC, I tried, but it just wasn’t for me. TF2 was nice to try, but there wasn’t enough to keep me on, especially when Undertale, FNAF and DDLC (cult classic indie titles) made their way to consoles.
5 years on, the Switch is still my personal gaming system, with the Wii U, 3DS and XBOX 360 still around.
I remember my friend group was split on a ps4 and xbox one. Before they came out we had discussions all about what console we were getting since it would be great to be able to play together.
Well damn, that was honestly an excellent vidya!! At 40 years of age I can relate to most of what you said and I also started my gaming "career" with the Atari 2600!😎👌
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I got the Series S too, but for me this is my first Xbox. I just love the games and the experience, it's been great.
Series S with Game Pass might be the best value in all of gaming right now. Not trying to flame war over XBox vs PS vs Nintendo vs PC, Just saying for $300 on a console that is easier to find and generally not scalped as much with Game Pass one is getting a lot of value.
I think that the reason why consoles are nearly "dead" now is because of two things:
1. You had to get a membership to play online. What kind of ridiculous bullshit is that? I paid for a product, I shouldn't have an entire experience inaccessible because some asshat over at corporate decided they wanted more money.
2. Lack of forced game chat.
So basically, fuck Xbox and their existence.
Really great video dude. I just found your channel and I'm really enjoying your content :)
I did want to share my own thoughts on gaming as someone who was never really big on the online scene. So, besides my Switch, which I got in summer of 2020, my last home console was a Wii U in 2014. Before that it was the PS3 in 2010. Unfortunately, my family is poor af so we basically missed out on the whole eighth generation of gaming. I don't really care about the online games, like at all, but I know there are so many PlayStation exclusives like Spider-Man and God of War that I've just never had the chance to play. This is why consoles still appeal to me, and I would be over the moon if I could find a reasonably priced PS5. I've seen so many people say that they don't care about the PS5 bc they already have a PS4, but I unfortunately never had that luxury. Hopefully I can find one soon 🤞
thanks for this video man. i knew something was wrong when i started hating video games these past few months. i now see why. gonna go play some vr with my little sister now, so she can also get that awesome childhood gaming experience, i got with the og ps3 and xbox days. i miss e3 and console wars lol.
I think my main issue is that graphics and processing power can't really get that much farther, in my opinion.
The graphical change from 2K to 4K happened long before the PS5 and Xbox Series X came out, so what's next, really?
It seems that every next console generation up until now has had major upgrades, but the current next-gen consoles don't feel that different.
I’ve got a PS5, and I am having a great time, (probably because it was my first PlayStation along side the PS2) but nothing else hits as hard, or has as much charm as my NES, SNES, Sega Genesis, PS2, N64, GameCube, Wii, Wii U, and Switch.
except PS1
This is so well Narrated, I subbed immediately
I grew up on consoles,a year ago I switched to pc,never went back
I was looking for a comparison between retro and modern consoles, and then I heard your first experience playing games are on what I would consider to be more modern consoles. 😂 However, what I found was a well-edited video that talks about someone who had Xbox 360 as their formulating experience with games. Subscribed!
@Divine Retribution unexpectedly based. Thanks for sharing
You’re the best man keep it up
Thanks 👋
can't relate that much, i didn't grow up with console gaming like my bigger brother due to having strict parents, and i just played cod on a shitty laptop against bots, but after recently getting a gaming laptop, i could experience for the first time what gaming feels like, and even played games i wanted to play as a kid, and ik if i replay COD, i will feel the same feeling of nostalgia
Happy you’re now able to experience new stuff :)
So after binging five-six of your videos… I approve lol I especially love the background music, like the subtle usage of The Social Network soundtrack or… so so so much Kanye but, I approve. Good work all around man
A quote that reflects my thoughts "you forgot brian, It's all about the game". I haven't bought new generations because I'm not interested in any new titles due their downward spiral.
Much of this is simply dependent on social aspect (what your friends play, how the console fostered its social eco system, etc...), and the game(s) available to play, that's all, it goes hand in hand. Gaming is about experiences. Xbox 360 had a revolutionary party chat feature that was far beyond what any console did, and some of the best multi player games of all time (Gears, Halo, the best CODs from 2007-2012, etc...). When you and your entire group of friends all played say MW2, it was the best multiplayer gaming experience ever in one of the best CODs ever . You and up to 5 friends filled up an SnD lobby, forced game chat made it so you had to interact with the other team between rounds/games, led to incredibly fun times, making new friends, heated rivalries, etc... so it added an entire social aspect that is simply no where near as alive now as it was then. Not much of this is dependent on hardware power, as these experiences were all on 2005 hardware with 512MB of RAM.
Been gaming since 4 with Spyro, Army Men 3D, DMC, and MGS.
Modern gaming has become rather...sterile. There's occasionally highlights that are genuinely great games!
But there's so many that just feel sterile in the AAA space. And whereas bad games use to be fun to check out...I mean Inversion, Shellshock 2, Fall of Liberty, etc we now get just trash. Mainly thinking PS4 which ends up with some absolute garbage that I don't see how Sony allowed on the platform.
I will say that going through itch.io and steam I've found alot more of those "hidden gem" titles like Alisa, Dread X Collection, and so many strange oddities that remind me of ps2 & 360 days.
Literally bought a game called Roma Invicta and while yeah its not great it's something I could easily see being on the Xbox marketplace for 360.
Nowadays mainstream AAA just says "look how pretty we are" or "listen to our message you, BIGOT!"
Oh and you also get TLOU2 cases where the devs act like crawling and hiding in grass is some new feature.
I don't really get just...games. it's one reason I really enjoy Elden Ring. It's just a fun game with a cool story and a world that says, go nuts!
Also side note but....FEAR 1, MGS2/3, and Far Cry 2 still have the best dynamic ai to this day. Stealth games still use hive mind tactics!
Far Cry 2 has the largest range of ai actions I've ever seen and it still has not been replicated. FEAR? What do I need to say about that other than the level designer and AI lead dev were banging.
Anyways that my rant. Maybe it didn't make sense or maybe it did. I'm just typing on the spot.
We need less greed and laziness and more just...actual talent!
Alien Isolation is another game with great AI, you should look up how it works. It's sad that its AI style hasn't been adopted for more things. Imagining if RE3 remake had that AI for Nemesis rather than the crap cutscenes we got instead is so sad. or even having it for a new MGS style game for every soldier (though MGS2/3 was already good enough in the AI department).
But yeah, it's all about homogenization of game mechanics now. That's why I hated the First TLOU getting so popular, seeing as it's a barebones amalgamation of whatever was popular at the time, but simplified for the Journalists to handle. It's just The Walking Dead Season 1 (the game, not TV Show, because the game had the same story as TLOU and came out beforehand and was so popular that it was an obvious candidate to rip off, but with all the bite taken away), with 3rd person mechanics slapped on (since they were all the rage at the time, and why wouldn't they just reuse the code from Uncharted? It's not like they were planning to make it engaging and have depth like other 3rd person shooters anyways) And "crafting" because Minecraft (just no actual crafting, its just a poorly designed extra step for normal item acquisition in other games). But because it was so popular, developers realized they could put in the minimal effort into their gameplay and people will eat it up and act like it's the second coming of games. It then led to some developers going the extra step and making walking simulators to see how far they could go, and that somehow worked too!
So now we have games removing as much gameplay from the players control as possible, or games that are just Ubisoft sandboxes that throw in half-baked versions of what is popular. Right now its Ubisoft sandboxes either with some Dark Souls stuff added in or plain FPS stuff, but either one is just an excuse for a live service system to take money.
Personally my favorite video game series that still makes game to this day is shin megami tensei and it’s spinoff, persona. Smt especailly never gets too preachy, it just throws you into it’s environment and lets you explore until a dark story about religion and the apocalypse creeps in. You seem like the kind of guy who would like smt 3 Nocturne (switch, steam, ps2, ps4) , smt 4 (3ds) or smt V (switch).
so glad you mention far cry 2 dude, FC3 is so overrated its not funny
Nah they do have talent what they don't have is vision, it's either caring about graphic and unnecessary physics or having to follow an agenda or having to follow a business model
Got a vid on my recommended I’ve watched about 10 in a row now this a great channel
I'm so glad I found this channel about a week ago, Skipper has the same exact sense of humor AND apparently had the same childhood as me
Halo Reach was basically the Pinnacle of gaming, roughly speaking
While I agree that Nintendo just doesn't have the same genuine feeling, the way they handled the switch feels a bit sterile and lacking in personality seen in the Wii/DS days, the Xbox Series X|S is sweet. I loved my Xbox One so the fact that the Series consoles just improve on every aspect of it makes me happy.
1:26 gave me those LBP memories back, especially those shark survival levels
Honestly from my perspective the complete opposite happened. The only system I would ever actually game on was the PC. And honestly, after so many years of playing only on PC, new games started to feel so lame and I thought I was starting to not even want to play any games. Until I got a PS5, it was so refreshing to just turn it on and instantly be in a game within seconds. I didn't have to type in 20 god damn passwords, wait for the game to load, find out that my drivers were out dated, go update it, restart my computer, then put in 30 more passwords, and THEN I could play the damn game. Of course that's an extreme example. But after years and years of doing that It just got so tedious for me. Even though I have a PS5 I will admit I still put up with PC bullshit to play a FPS with a mouse, I CANNOT even try to aim on a controller. So yeah great video, I just thought it was interesting that your story is actually pretty similar to mine just on opposite ends. You earned a Sub from me.
Damn Xbox 360 was my childhood, I loved it so much.
Resident evil revelations, Left 4 dead 2, Castlevania lord's of shadow, Dragon Ball raging Blast 2, and much more.
Some throw back names right there, good times
@@DoktorSkipper Right.
Literally, my brother got the new xbox, and i see actually no difference, he doesnt play any new games for it, he just hops on the ones that he had on his xbox one, there is no excitement getting a new console, because you dont really need one to enjoy the new stuff or different things
He got the wrong console ps5 has miles morales demon souls god of war ragnarok all songs that are worth it, Xbox doesnt have much
First time watcher. Good video. Great use of the riddler so earned a like!
This is such a relatable video man. Can't praise this video enough
I think maybe it's because you got older and it's less exciting or "magical"
That is a correct and based take.
Gears of war and halo still hold a special place in my heart
games now may have better graphics but their just not the same anymore
I don't even like the ultra-realism every game world has today , too shiny/clean/unimaginative with carbon copy mechanics.
I miss slightly more primitve blocky polygonal stuff where you had to use more Imagination and fill In the blanks , I miss the lo-fi
blurry foggy unintended extra atmosphere (due to tech limitations) , game design was In a perfect uncanny valley during 6th + 5th gen
(1998 - 2004 or 1996 - 2006). Older games retain their character and charm because they look play and feel unique and unorthodox ,
games took risks back when we had no sure-thing blueprint to copy-paste your way to success , and gamers weren't conditioned
to support or accept bad practices. There was no preassure of missing out due to social media awareness and online trends ,
there was also no political correct agendas that could be weaponized to Influence or dictate game design In any way , there was no mandatory Inclusiveness or concern you either like someone's game or you didn't. Our entire society Is so messed up and generic nowdays
there's no Individuality allowed anymore.
Okay grandpa.
This was beautiful.
And I feel you bro I really feel you 😔
I haven't laughed this good in such a long time. I don't know why larry the cucumber had me rolling LOL
I'm sick of all these next gen Playstation Xbox cinematic movie games they're boring there not fun.I've been playing old classic games PS1 PS2 PS3 original Xbox and it's amazing how better all these old games are compared to all these stupid boring movie games.
I feel like the console race is ending b/c PC had caught up and surpassed them awhile ago. Marketing and IPs can only save them so much when the hardware is far gone and computers becoming more aceesible for gaming.
You can say that again, and the funny thing is pc players are complaining about not having many servers without crossplay and complaining about aiming assist(this situation is only for online)
I can definitely see things cruising along just fine through current 9th gen , and 10th gen after this. Beyond that though I wouldn't be surprised If gaming and hardware cycles drastically change or exist In a different way where they're an Irrelevant niche speciality for access.
8th gen wasn't really a console war anyway It was over before anything started , and Microsoft prettymuch quit competing , they're playing a differen't war now with different mega-corp opponents ever since they they launched Gamepass and prioritized their goal of digital streaming anywhere and becoming the "Netflix" of gaming. (Netflix Is losing tons of subscribers lately btw and tv streaming services are all overpriced and no longer In a chord cutting golden age , with little unique left to offer It's mostly 95 percent same rotated content). It seems like Microsoft Is forcing the Industry to adapt faster than It would've to predominantly digital streaming , It's a long-term war Sony can't afford to play or at least not dominate because It's more about raw cash on hand than game design talent or creative effort. I personally like "console wars" , friendly competition , and lots of walled garden exclusives , and I'll always support physical media and hardware.
I wish pc gaming was not mainstream the prices of games and hardware has increased. I suppose the good thing from that is better console ports and more console exclusives.
seriously? Even weak graphics cards are more expensive than consoles. Often the community has to troubleshoot and patch lazy console ports to PC where the games run better on console even with weaker hardware. Windows 11 sucks and more needs to be done to integrate Linux. Also how many services on PC with Steam, Microsoft, Epix, GOG, etc? Also consoles still have exclusives as in everything by Nintendo and many Playstation games are still exclusive (Bloodborne is 7 years old now, no PC Port?) and many PS games ported were done so many YEARS after their initial release like HZD, GoW, Spiderman, etc. I mean those games are like all 5 years old now?
1 fact for pc gamers: exclusive games are overrated
I’m 17 and I have most of the old consoles, but as of right now the only one who gives me the same feelings I had as a kid while playing videogames is the Switch. Such a fun console to play on, with such a good library, even with non-exclusive titles. There’s just something different about it, something that makes me prefer to buy games on there even though I could buy the “better version” on my Series S or PS5.
These vids really be hot as hell. Keep up the good content boss
I still have three Xbox 360. 💀
You hit the nail on the head
I feel like games on the next gen consoles are no different at all to games on last gen and it bums me out. They don't try to push the envelope anymore they just made the graphics slightly better with better frame rates. Makes me feel like they're just making me pay hundreds of dollars to play new games that I could have played on the PS4 or Xbox one
Great video, I never really considered these points before.
the future timeline for consoles was always transparent: after the fight for graphics, it was about exclusives, which caused the want for cross platform play. the next stage is the decline of consoles by affordable computers that can run most games at high fidelity. whats less obvious is the current renewed interest in handheld gaming. what was the 2DS dominating PS Vita is now the switch vs the upcoming steam deck
being nostalgic for being called slurs is one of the most able bodied cis straight white male things ive ever heard. you wouldnt hear that from anyone who was disabled, black, gay, or trans
I was with you until you went on your lil NPC rant 💀and handheld gaming never died , it just moved to phones via emulators.
Yeah it sucks that games and consoles don't hit the same
It be like that
as someone who is part of the newer generation of kids and is way behind the times mentally it actually makes a lot of sense now, i have a lot of friends who got series s's while im stuck with the 360 but no one is making a crazy deal out of it like they did back when the 360 and xbox one/ps4 where new consoles. One thing i do know is that people for sure do not talk in games anymore, i played (and still once in a while) play roblox but like most online games, no one conversates at all. its strange considering everyone likes multiplayer so much that games dont even care about the singleplayer story modes anymore. yet no one conversates online. another point you made in the video, there was no urge to upgrade from the xbox one or ps4 to ps5 and series x, but the 360 and ps3 were such old hardware that 90% of people stopped using them because the lower graphics quality so there is still some urge for people to upgrade to atleast the ps4 or xbx one.
I have so many memories of me and my friends playing modern warfare 2019, even if the lobbies kept disconnecting, it was so fun in search and destroy, killing someone with a stupid gun and hearing people rage about it. It was toxic but fun
I was born in 92 and grew up with the NES, SNES, PS1,2,3. I have great memories of using a pc to play GTA IV when I didn’t have a PS3.
There were no free to play games really, def not full games you could posses. It’s pretty shocking to see tbh. I’m glad and also jealous
I feel the same way. I’m not a fan of modern gaming between micro transactions and no more fun shit talking
Same. I bought a Series X and mainly use it to play backwards compatible titles. My PC plays mostly games from a decade or more ago.
Bruh took you long. Great vid
Honestly this is why i hated the 7th gen era of consoles. Exclusivity is what held many console gamers against one another with brand loyalty and created a toxic environment that still holds till this day. Now there might have been wars since the 80s (Atari vs Coleco, Vectrex,etc.) And even the Snes vs Genesis era being the most iconic, but at least now for the first time we're cutting the ties of exclusivity and porting everything on PC and thanking Fortnite (of all things) of helping PC gaming explode among many other titles such as PUBG, COD warzone, Halo infinite, Overwatch, Battlefield,.etc.
Now both spiderman games are on pc the final. Nail in the coffin
I was going to buy a ps5 but now exclusive games are coming to pc what's the point I'll just wait
the PS5 (and PS4) could have had so many more Games, if Sony didn't shut down their own Studios and kill off many beloved Games.
Remember Dark Cloud, SSX, Champions of Norrath, God Hand, Resistance, Black, Drakengard, Shadowhearts, Spartan Total Warrior, Def Jam, Fight Night, Urban Reign, Viewtiful Joe, Twisted Metal, Motorstorm, PSI Ops, Ghosthunter, Splashdown, Colony Wars, Nuclear Strike, Jak n Dexter, Sly Cooper, Midnight Club, The Warriors, The Bouncer, Extreme G3, Wipeout, Ridge Racer, Tokio Extreme Racers, etc...?
All dead and burried and now Sony is making a Pikachu face, asking why the PS5 only has 8 exclusives, after over 2 years.
Ya mama
I know I act a fool
Gay
Great video!!! I bought a PS5 and Xbox s, and played halo infinite, god of war Ragnarok and stray, now they're collecting dust. I'm playing my PS3 a ton, just finished the original fear and starting spec ops the line. Games are all AAA or indie now, a lot has changed! Keep up the good work. I do miss the open chat, lol, it was great.
"25 yo boomer" damn bro, that cut deep lol
I think people don’t realize that the difference between the series X in the series S is much more than a disk drive. The series x has more powerful components that allow the games to be run at a higher resolution and frame rate. I think that the series S is an amazing console but it is very misleading in the video to say that there is virtually no difference.
if you want a higher resolution and framerate you should get a pc
I agree with you on single player games. I’ve been a console gamer my whole life and recently got a pc setup, but I can’t be bothered to play single player games at my desk. I love to just sit on the couch with the ps5.
you can play pc games on the couch. All you need is a wireless mouse, keyboard and Xbox controller. My last console was a modified 60 gig Ps3 running custom software I still use for emulators. That and my pc is all I need lol
The internet seemed to bring us together at one point, but now it just feels like it's tearing us apart.
Went PC at the start of the Xbone/PS4. Never went back to console.