The Canon R5 Mk. II and R1 - Come on Canon!
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
- A video discussing the upcoming Canon R5 Mk. II and R1 camera bodies from the perspective of a bird photographer. No speculation, just a practical discussion of specifications and an inquiry of what the audience of photographers wants to see in these two new cameras.
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As a Canon shooter for decades, they have always targeted the needs of news and sports photographers first with their pro bodies. The needs of wildlife photographers are pretty far down their priority list. That seems to be continuing.
Yes, it does. And as I stated in the video, I wonder if that is wise. It seems there are a lot of wildlife photographers out there, maybe more than the other groups. I will dig a bit on this.
@@whistlingwingsphotography there is a LOT more wildlife photographers than sports...Canon, like you said, is being unwise. Both Sony and Nikon are smacking the rumoured R1 from here to kingdom come as it is and they are 2 and 4 years old...
They need speed in acquiring and speed in transfer to get it to their employers. They have big bucks to spend. Most Wildlife Photographers don’t get paid for photographs. They have a wish list but not the resources. The R6II and R5II should be more than enough for Bird Photography. BIF will always be difficult for any camera brand no matter the price.
@@charlesjames9783 “professional” and even enthusiast wildlife photographers have a lot of money. Just take a look down the comments and see how many are using 10,000 dollar lenses. Wildlife photographers often shoot in poor weather with big aperture. There is a big market for it, beyond what they are offering in the R5mk2
Agree with what you said, 45 MP is minimum for a flagship camera. If the rumored specification turns out to be true for R1, my prediction is some of the disappointed Canon users will switch to Nikon. Wake up, Canon!!!
To me it does seem that with the tech available now we could have an R1 at 45mp, but it is due to segmenting of the lineup to give sports and news folks what they want. There are some who say that Sony did the same thing with the a9III given it is 24mp. But, there is another possible reason for the a9III being 24mp and that is the global shutter and that it may have limited Sony to 24mp. If they could have done a global shutter at 45mp would they have.?
@@whistlingwingsphotographySony releasing a 45mp global shutter camera for sure would have left them with little room to improve on in my opinion. 24 made sense for now
@@whistlingwingsphotography That seems to be most likely the reason why the R1 is limited to 24mp but instead Canon should have released the R1 (24mp) as the R3 mk2.
I agree. I have the R5 and R3. For sports, the R3 all day. For wildlife, the R5. Ideally for me I would like 45mp in an R3 body.
Yep. That is would I would like to see, but alas, it is not going to happen this time around. I do believe the R5 will fill the bill for me, but I would like to see what Canon could do if they would put all of their tech into one hybrid camera like the R1.
I have 1dx mk 11 and r3… getting a r5 mk 11…if the r1 had 45mp I would get that… love the pro-body feel…I think the r1 auto focus will be next level… but it is rumoured that the r5 will have better DR and low light and auto focus than r3 so I think it will be amazing too
you can use the R3 for all :)
I was into photography in my 20’s and 30’s. Then, life became busy with career and caretaking, so personal time was non existent. I always missed photography. I began birding in 2018, and was drawn to seeing the bird photographers and gear when hiking, When Covid hit, I was in my late 50’s, and I thought I’m just going to jump back in and do wildlife photography. I thought this was a novel idea. The woman at the camera store, said, “ ya, you and thousands of other people!” During Covid, when stores and malls closed, the parks were really full, and people were drawn back to nature. I think that Canon needs to realize Covid changed things. There are many serious amateur nature photographers out there with some crazy expensive gear! I shoot Canon for the RF100-500 lens. I just wish Canon would roll the new gear out faster. I’ve got anticipation fatigue at this point!
A lot of people have anticipation fatigue and in the end all the build up tends to lead to a let down when the gear is announced with less than what we hoped to see in it. What frustrates me is still feeling like I need to have two different Canon bodies to meet my needs in 2024. I am hoping the R5II will finally provide a fast AF, fast fps, and 45mp body for my bird photography needs.
I want GPS and sound in any body I buy. I have an R3 now and having GPS coded into the photos is extremely helpful. The shutter sound also helps me a great deal . I don't need a vertical grip. It's OK sometimes but I have never had a problem shooting vertical without one.
Hey, thanks for watching and taking the time to add your thoughts. Much appreciated.
I fanaticize about a Canon camera and lens system built specifically for wildlife with a medium format sensor with about 50 MP so it would have high ISO/low noise, like the R3, with larger dedicated buttons for all possible auto focus scenarios, and without the extraneous menu options that don't apply to outdoor photography, and, of course, long lenses to match that come in, maybe, two camo patterns.
It would be extraordinarily expensive for the camera, a 600mm F4 lens, and extra batteries, but then it is only a fantasy.
I have this same dream on many nights. Thanks for sharing.
We also want very good low light performance in 45MP as well as a great focusing system, and a good pre-capture system... I think the R5 II will deliver with the stacked sensor, fast readout speeds, and a much better focusing system. Cant wait!
I agree, I think the R5M2 will be a great camera, but it would be even greater if it could drive both motors in the big whites!
I do think the R5II is where my needs will be filled, but I would love to see what Canon could do in the full-blown R1 with a bit higher megapixels.
100% agree. I really would love to see what Canon could do with a full-blown R1. I think they would sell a lot more of them to wildlife people then their research indicates.
Market research aside, canon has lagged behind in sensor technology, and processor technology for years now. They've made huge strides in catching up with the R5 and R3, but their competition hasn't been sitting still. I don't believe canon has the engineering and manufacturing acumen to build a high megapixel super fast stacked sensor camera. Their autofocus systems, color science, metering, and white balance are some of the best, but I don't think they well catch up on sensors and processors with this generation of upgrades. I hope I'm wrong.
I tend to agree with you. Canon has its strengths, but sensor tech seems a bit behind Sony and Nikon uses Sony sensors as well.
@@whistlingwingsphotography It seems to stem from the fact that Canon develops the majority of their sensors and processors in house, especially for their pro and prosumer level cameras. They are a much smaller company than Sony, and are behind Sony, and Panasonic in sensor tech and processor speed. Those two things appear to be what holds Canon back in giving us a camera like the Nikon Z9/Z8 (sony sensors) or Sony A1 with high megapixels AND blazing speed with great dynamic range. I think they'll get there, but it's always going to be years later than their main competition. By the same token, they don't have to worry about competition cutting off their access to sensors or chips.
All very true and it may end up hurting Canon in the end if they cannot keep up tech-wise. It seems they may be hiding behind the "the market says sports and news photogs want 45mp" when it really has to do with the fact they don't have the tech to put out a 45mp camera with all the speed that Sony and Nikon bodies can muster.
Been saying that for awhile. Their sensors have performed mediocre in DxOMark tests. Probably can't make a high mpx sensor that can move at the frame rates of the competition...
Great video. Do you think the smaller battery in the R5 also is limiting to using big primes? I have the RF600 F4. I have heard that the R5 can only power one of the autofocus motors in it due to small batteries, in comparison to the larger in the R3, R1. Thanks!
Yep, it is about voltage. This is one of the reasons I would like to see Canon just let it rip and bring out a full-blown R1 at 32 - 45mp. It would be so great to have all the capabilities in one camera. I think Canon might be pleasantly surprised at the sales of a full-blown R! over targeting news and sports people with this camera.
Hi, Could I ask what kind of lens cap do you have on the Lens mounted on the R3?
It is made by Zemlin.
I am not concerned about the upcoming r1 & r5 ii how’s they gonna be, i am just still waiting for canon roadmap when it will wakes up and produce the lightweight 500mm & 600mm f/5.6 same as Nikon pf lenses !
Is it making sense canon had only one single lightweight 400mm f/5.6 since more than 20 years ago and stopped it !
Never know what canon are thinking
I agree on this point. It would be great for Canon to do more work on the DO lens side of things. I am not sure what to think about the reason for this not happening.
This unique set of needs for bird and wildlife photography is one of the key reasons that so many photographers have chosen Sony A1 and the Nikon Z8 and Z9. I was a Canon shooter for many years and I sold my Canon R3 to purchase the Nikon Z9. I have not regretted that choice for a single moment. In addition, Nikon offers more affordable lenses in the focal lengths needed for wildlife and bird photography.
I hear this more and more. I know Canon has the tech to do a full-blown R1 that would do as more or more that the a1 or Z9, but they chose to continue to segment their line-up. I hear the reasoning that Sony did the same thing with the a9III given it is 24mp, but it may be that Sony prioritized bringing out the global shutter and with the global shutter they could only do 24mp.
CrippleHammer™ is Canon's favourite thing. The R5II will be BSI stacked but DPAF, not much of an improvement over the current R5's buffer and still CFExpress/SD card slots imho. R1 will be 24mp but much faster FPS, dual CFExpress and much bigger buffer and QPAF...
And Canon will continue to lose customers as it continues to screw us over.
I regret sticking with Canon. Should have went the A1/200-600.
@@davepasternI really hope the R5ii has QPAF, the competition is too high not to move along feature/tech wise in my opinion. I’m hoping the R1 can entice R3 users but I agree, 24mp where the world has moved on and target market has broadened so much, is a bit low in my view.
I would love to see QPAF in the R5II that would be huge, but I don't think it will happen. QPAF is a segment defining feature for the R1 IMO.
@@mvp_kryptonite Canon has always very strongly CrippleHammered their product lines to protect their top products. I think you can safely expect the R5II to ONLY introduce a BSI stacked sensor and improved FPS and fix the overheating issues and nothing much else.
I agree with you...R1 should offer 45 megapixels at least. As flagship for Canon, it really should be 60 megapixels
Thanks for watching and adding your thoughts to the discussion. Always appreciated.
Can’t wait for your (quick!) review on the R5 mk II please! A much better autofocus, pre-capture and more fps will sell it for me!
I will be getting one asap after the announcement and will do my best to provide a comprehensive review as soon after. I am with you on what the R5II should bring. Thanks for watching and commenting.
I think Canon are selling themselves short if they make the R1 only 24 MGP. They would sell a ton more cameras if it was 36MGP +
I think that’s the case, but obviously they don’t or they do not have the capability to do so.
I'm just a wildlife hobby shooter but I use the R5 and R3 with RF600 F4 and RF100-500. I travel a lot and also do some guided tours and I see and meet tons of people just like me that it's just a hobby but we all have the top of the line gear from all brands, but I see more Canon and Nikon.
I believe the R3 was supposed to be the R1 also, I think they thought the 4mp jump over the 1DX III and the new eye control AF would be seen as big improvements. If the Rumored specs off the R1 are true I'll pass they aren't enough for me to replace my bodies now. For a R5 II if it has the R3 autofocus and the smart controller like the R3 I'll upgrade.
This is about how I am looking at it. It will be hard for me to upgrade from my R3 if the R1 is 24mp because the R3 AF is so good and the low light performance also is good. Unless the R1 brings something to the table that will really make my bird photography so much better I will have to pass on the R1.
I going on 69 and as always shoot Canon for wildlife, with the R5 and your help I was able to achieve some great in flight shoots but never like the guys that shoot Sony A1 and now Nikon Z9. Was waiting for the new generation of technology by Canon to come out and there Flagship body but not so sure about it anymore... Really hope that new R5 II is going to be up to my expectations...
I am hoping right along with you regarding the R5II. I hope the AF is a good as my R3. If so, I will be happy.
100% agree. I want the megapixels.
Hey, thanks for watching and taking the time to chime in.
Did you the 5DSR ??? 50.1mp
I had one a long time ago. Not for me given what I shoot which is a lot of birds in flight.
The camera you are looking for already exist bud it’s called the Sony A1 50mp x 30fps RAW. 9.1million view finder. What is missing??
He probably has a lot of RF lenses for a start.
I had a a1 for a long time and it is a great camera. However, I am not going to take the hit on lenses and other related gear to switch brands unless I am forced to. This may happen if Canon does not come through this round of bodies. I will state this however, the Sony a1 has some issues not the least of which is the form factor and the use of CFe type A cards. Have you ever held a Canon R3. It is the most ergonomic body I have ever held. It is just a joy to use. I also had a Nikon Z9, again, great camera with issues like all others.
I think Canon see the wildlife/bird shooter as the enthusiast sector so crop sensors should be enough. The sports shooters are their priority. I wouldn't mind a good crop sensor flagship type cam but the R7 isn't. I do like the cam but it isn't stacked or has any good pro build to it. The R3 would have been awesome if it was a aps-H (1.3x) at 24mp stacked sensor. These days I'm looking at the Nikon Z8 that's likely what an R5 II will have to spec against. Nikon do have a great lens line up as well for the bird shooter. I got a feeling you will be disappointed come 17th July. Anyway just wanted to say I don't comment often enough but I love your photo's.
Hey, thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. I have pretty much always loved Canon bodies and lenses, but if that is the way Canon is thinking, regarding cropped sensors, then I don't agree with them. I did really like the 1DIV with its APS-H sensor. I thought that was a great compromise between full frame and the 1.6x crops we are now dealing with.
I'm not buying the R1, but if I did I'd want 32 MPs over 24 MPs also.
❤and I would want 50 over 32..
Noted. And thanks for watching and commenting. Much appreciated.
Morning Ron Hope you are well as a bird photographer and wildlife photographer I would love 45 pixels on the R1 but unfortunately the rumours are 24 we will have to wait and see
you can never get what you want all the time with canon as you are aware take care from rainy England
Hey, great to hear from you. I get it, but 24mp on the R1 just seems wrong for 2024 and I can't believe Canon's marketing research backs up that decision. I really want to see who and how they came up with their numbers.
I think that it’s great that the R1 will be 24 megapixels as long as the lighter R3 Mark II has a 45-50 megapixel stacked sensor with no antialiasing filter for us wildlife shooter! That would make a lot of sense in my humble opinion. 😊 Thanks for your thoughts and updates!
That would be one way to go, but I am not very convinced there will be an R3 Mk. II. And if that camera does come, when will that be? Years down the road?
@@whistlingwingsphotography well that would be sad because the R3 is the perfect size for my hands and I also hear that the bigger batter will drive both motors in the big glass versus the smaller camera batteries. I assume to would make a bigger difference when using the 2x TCs 🤔
I think the R3 is the most comfortable camera to grip I have ever used. And yes, the bigger battery allows for the full capabilities of the big primes to be used. We will just have to wait as see what Canon does with respect to the future of the R3.
@@whistlingwingsphotography I’ll keep my fingers crossed 🤞 lol! Thanks ☺️
I think it's incredible that we're still waiting for Canon to announce these new cameras in the second half of 2024. I've seen rumours that Canon has had some issues regarding the development of these bodies, which suggests to me that the company is bringing in some new features we haven't seen before. Anyway, I think the R5II will be the camera to choose for wildlife work, simply because of the extra resolution, but we've been here before. The 5 series has been higher resolution than the 1 series for a long time, so no change there. As for the R1 and Canon's market research - I know quite a few professional sport and news photographers and for them, 24 megapixels is definitely a sweet spot. I think that's the market Canon is aiming at with the R1 so yea, I can see where they're coming from, even if I'd love to see a new 1 series body with upwards of ~32 megapixels. I'm following all this very closely though. I've used Canon for more than 25 years and at the moment, I'm sorely tempted to switch to Nikon. The biggest reason for this is Nikon's lens lineup, which I think is the best out there for wildlife work, but their bodies aren't half bad either. I'll see what Canon announce this month before making this decision. Finally - for me a "professional" photographer is someone whose primary source of earned income is from their photography work, but I think it's becoming such a misused phrase that I prefer to avoid it! Thanks for another great video.
Thanks so much for watching and chiming in. Agree with all you state here. I would love to see how many R1 sell and 24mp and then at say 32 or 45mp. I am wondering if the second situation would not prove to be more profitable. Alas, we will never know.
When I shot DSLR it was the Canon 5DIV and 1DX. Then came mirrorless in 2013 and I added Sony and these days, while I bought a EOS R5 when it came out (also had the EOS R) and updated to the latest RF glass I shoot Sony more especially for Wildlife and BIF with my two Alpha A1 @ 50 MPixels. If Canon doesn’t make their EOS R5 II a competitor to these or a Nikon Z8 I maybe done with Canon since for plain old events, portraits, and sports Sony has it full covered as well and actually had fast primes at 14, 20, 24, and 35mm that Canon never bothered to make. In fact for Canon I’m still using my adapted EF 35mm f1.4 II. Admit I’m no longer interested in 24 Mpixel cameras since I don’t shoot video. Also Canon huge delay on these bringing out these cameras has convinced me they are not their priority but I’m no sure what is. Appreciate your video. Take care.
I follow you on all of this. I really thought with this next iteration of bodies Canon was going to show what they could do. But they seem to be sticking with their old marketing and product segmentation plan and I have my doubts that that old plan is still relevant today. We shall see I guess. The good thing is there is Sony and Nikon and I may just go that route if the R5II is not what I need it to be to do my job the best I can do it. Thanks for watching and commenting.
They know their market! Look at the sidelines of an NFL Game. All Canon. They need speed in acquiring and speed in transfer to get it to their employers. They have big bucks to spend. Most Wildlife Photographers don’t get paid for photographs. They have a wish list but not the resources. The R6II and R5II should be more than enough for Bird Photography. BIF will always be difficult for any camera brand no matter the price.
Oh, I see the sidelines, but I also see the thousands of wildlife photographers I take on tours each year and the many thousands of other is the places I visit with the majority of them carrying flagship bodies and 400, 500, 600 fast prime lenes. That market has big bucks to spend as well. I would love to see a 24mp R1 and 45mp R1 go head to head in sales. I think the results would surprise some people. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Canon needs to make an R5ii that is better than Sony A1. Lower noise sensor. Better low light AF. Improve bird detection in a bush. Add RAW pre-capture with 60fps. Bird/Animal eye detection in video.
Not sure the 5 series is meant to go head to head with Sony's flagship line. The Bird/animal eye detection in video would be awesome.
@@whistlingwingsphotography well the 1 series bodies aren't going head to head with Sony...so if your thesis is correct, Canon has NOTHING going up against the A1...a 4 year old camera. That's rather shameful of Canon, no?
@@whistlingwingsphotography No its a bit odd. R5ii will match A1 and R1 will match A9iii
Yes, sort of. However, the a9III has a global shutter and the R1 will not. It is all goofy when trying to compare bodies among manufacturers. I really do not think Canon thinks it has to match anybody body for body. They seem to be staying the course on what the 5 and 1 series cameras have been for years and years now. I am just not sure that course does not need some correcting. Canon should know best and time will tell. I would love to see Canon produce a R1 with 45mp and one with 24mp and see which sells better. I would not be surprised if it would be the 45mp version. Maybe they just can't do that camera given their current tech.
@@whistlingwingsphotography sure, they can stay the course. It will eventually start to hurt their business.
I bet you're right about how many bird/wildlife photographers there are comapred to sports photographers. I was at Magee Marrsh BEFORE the Biggest Week and would estimate there was a million dollars worth of optics on the boardwalk the morning I was there. I'm not sure Canon is listening to these consummers. The R5 has been an amazing camera and for me, the Mark II would need to be exponentially better. They need to have an outstanding Pre-Capture or I won't even consider buying it and even then I'll wait for the reviews first. A significantly improved autofocus system-or why bother. If they've put their effort into the video system, forget it-I don't shoot much video and resent having to pay for something I don't need. As for the R1; way out of my price range.
Well, I will be doing one of the reviews you mention waiting for. I hope you will watch and I hope it will help with decision making as that is always my goal. I agree that the R5II needs to step way up in AF performance from the R5. We shall soon see.
When the R3 came out, I wanted it to be 35MP. I would have even been happy with 30MP.
But even though it was "only" 24MP, I bought it and replaced my 45MP R5.
Now I'm planning to get the R1, but would like to see 30MP to 35MP. Rumors say 24MP, which I guess we'll find out in a couple of weeks.
Yep, we will find out soon. We can hope for a miracle, for more than 24mp. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Simple, R1-26mpx. R3-45+And Canon trump card, A pro R7. in a R3 body?
Hey, bring it on. Overall, Canon needs to bring the 5, 1, and 7 series up to date with respect to stacked sensors, fast read outs, and elimination of detectable rolling shutter. We used to shoot 16, 18, 20, etc. megapixels and be happy, because that is all the tech could support. We are not well past that with 45-50mp being doable in the fastest bodies with few if any drawbacks. 24mp in the flagship and being the only body that can drive the larger lenses at full capability is not the way to go IMO.
@whistlingwingsphotography I totally agree Ron! It's really time for an R7ii with a better buffer, stacked sensor, better ISO performance and an updates autofocus system, I would accept 33mp again if the other specs are improved but 45mp would be fantastic especially as its an APS-C body.
Geez, it’s not just me, huh? Is Canon going to mess this up? It’s ridiculous how they messed up the r3? What is the definition of flagship, these days? Seems like Sony changed it from what it used to be when only Canon and Nikon were competing, and that led to the r3/r1 mess. If the r1 is just 24 MP, I’m not buying it, I’d get an r6mk2 for low-light, even though I do prefer the body of the r3. I don’t want to pay r3 money for a 24MP sensor, that’s nuts. I’m expecting to buy the r5mk2, though. Surely Canon knows the r5mk2 will be its cash cow going forward, right? Can they possibly mess this up? And this notion waiting 6 months if you don’t order within the first minute of availability is nuts too! Can anyone think it makes sense to make customers wait? And yes, bird photography is very popular. You see way more people out on weekends and on tours and what not these days? Where are all the pros, especially the shorts shooters? From what I see, companies won’t treat you well if you aren’t making video, so if you are a pro and not making video you may end up using your own equipment and not being on staff. So watch out for that.
I want the r5m2 to have the best AF possible when it streets, I’d rather it have 2 CFe cards and NO SD cards (can we finally get free of SD please?). I will never buy another Canon camera that has discernible rolling shutter, Canon!!! That is an affront to your customers to sell them a camera that produces a distorted mess of an image. Obviously we all want more DR and better low-light performance. I also expect the best ergonomics available from a non-flagship (talking r5mk2 here). And I personally think Canon needs to offer a grip that can drive those big F4 and F2.8 lenses at full speed!!! What is the logic for giving us less than full performance, especially if you are going to withhold the high MP sensor from the flagship? Think about this: the flagship is the only camera that can drive the super pricey lens well and they have the low MP sensors? Is this stupid or what? Come on, Canon!!! Stop doing stupid shit.
Yep, I hear this a lot and I am joining the mass of frustrated photographers. Thanks so much for watching and making your feelings known. I am not sure what Canon is thinking. Could it be they just don't have the tech to do a full-blown R1?
R3 will dramatically drop in price once the R1 is released and the sports photographers sell all of their R3s for the R1. The market will be flooded and they will be desperate to sell, so prices WILL drop. Give it 2-3 months after the R1 becomes available to the masses and not must elite photographers that Canon panders too and see. Canon has completely screwed R3 adopters with their R5II/R1 strategy and fuck all firmware updates to the R3. They don't give a shit about us.
Am I pissed off. You betcha.
I wonder if Canon realizes that R1 done right means most wildlife photographers would buy both R1 and R3 (as evidenced in posts above). But, getting it wrong would likely be the alternate (jumping ship and loosing all sales camera and lens...
@@woods1dj this from the same company that blocked AF on 3rd party lenses in what is legally an anti-competitive and monopolistic attack on the free market? Nah.
Don't expect the autofocus in the R5 MK2 to be anywhere near what they have in the current R3 and the newer R1. The R5 is definitely second tier and will continue to be. Canon isn't going to give you the same autofocus that they put in a $6500 camera for the price of the R5. What would compel anyone to buy their "flagship" then?
The R1 should be on a level of it's own! For starters at least 60mp not 45 alone with the R5 maybe bump the R3ii to 45mp whenever it comes out
I agree. The R1 being a flagship should stand out ,and right away, at 24mp, that just does not meet what a flagship should have in 2024 in many peoples minds.
I junked my R5 for an R6 MKII. The R6 II auto focuses wow! I'm using RF 200-800 with 1.4 tele. Crisp. And, if you use the histogram display to set light right and use fast shutter. I use 1/1600. The 24mp photos are so extremely well focused that they can be hugely cropped. But, I only shoot stills.
Hey, thanks for watching and adding your thoughts. Much appreciated.
The only manufacturer offering the best of both worlds is Nikon, with the Z9. And Nikon's lineup of lenses shows a real commitment to bird photographers. If only Nikon's AF would catch up with Canon's . . .
Yep the Z9 and their 400 and 600 TC lenses are great for the higher budget shooters and the Z8 and those PF lenses for people on a smaller budget are great, and I shoot Canon.
I agree. I have had the a1 and the z9, overall the R3 has the best AF I have ever used. But, the lower resolution at 24mp just hurts some times. In the R5II is 45mp and the AF is as good or better than the R3s I will be happy.
I agree. I too have the R5 and R3 and love them both, but I look forward to a R5mkII. Ideally an updated R3 with 32-36 mp with a tweaked auto focus would be the heat. Like you, i think Canon feels the pressure of competition to announce a new camera, but will suffer
"supply chain shortages" when it comes to delivering product. Look at how difficult it is to get a 200-800. I love my Canon cameras, but sometimes it is a challenge not to be intrigued by the new offerings of the competition.
I think you are spot on about wildlife shooters. We baby boomers exceed sports and photojournalist photographers by a large margin. I miss your more frequent videos.
Woody
Woody, thanks so much for watching and taking the time to comment. I agree with what you write here. With regards to my video posting, I will try and do better. Unfortunately, I am only one person and I run a tour business and my Speed-shooter Harness business as well, and there are only 24 hours in a day. Hey, if Canon would bring out some new stuff that bird/wildlife photographers would use I would do more videos as well. There has been a bit of a drought until now.
I appreciate the fact that unlike most photographers you’re not one of those “oh ____ amount of MP is enough”. Canon should always to strive for greater and greater MP. The only thing that is becoming less and less true and relevant is the notion that more MP means somehow less low light performance for video. It’s just simply not true anymore.
Hey, thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. Much appreciated.
What do you think about R7 maby r7 mark ii is give us a Wildlife camera
The R7 is a great camera, but with several limitation when it comes to wildlife/bird photography. The main issue is the very noticeable rolling shutter when using the electronic shutter. This can be dealt with via using the mechanical shutter, but then you don't get the advantage of the fps. If the Mk. II R7 gets rid of the rolling shutter issues then I see it as a much more capable bird photography body.
R7 also has a tiny buffer and mediocre autofocus. To make it more competitive it would take it out of the current price range. Expect a tiny incremental upgrade with Canon going heavy on comparisons to better cameras that really don't exist, like when they claimed the af in the R7 was derived from the R3 😂
The buffer is a big bottleneck with the ES for sure. I have found the AF to be pretty good. On par with the R3, no, but it does pretty well for me most of the time.
💯. R1 is just going to be an updated R3. Way more wildlife and bird photographers than sports photogs. Canon assumes pros are the only ones that can afford these cameras… BIG mistake!
Why is it the “sports photographers” get 2 pro cameras but Nikon and Sony can give there Flagship models these same Sport photographers 45 megapixels and no complaints 🤔
Some say, well look at the Sony a9III, it is only 24mp, so Sony sees the same thing as Canon and made the a9III for sports pros. Well, maybe, or perhaps it was because Sony prioritized bringing out a global shutter and they could only do a global shutter at 24mp. Would they have done the a9III at say 45mp if they could have? That is the question.
First have enjoyed some of your tours and have great shots of the belted kingfisher and the spoonbills. In each case you got us quite close and the rf100-500 lens was more than enough. The R5 did a great job and I did a lot of cropping. After a 5 month wait my RF200-800 lens arrived. As expected I like it but I don’t love it.
Why? Well, the limited light and the weight are big problems for me. I went to North Conservation area in Sebastian to shoot scrub jays. The weather was over cast and I wish I had my RF100-500 with me. Just not enough light and the lens is heavy.
What do I want? Just the R5 with its lighter weight and my 100-500 and if the weather is good, then the 200-800. Improvements would be to have the bracket detachable on the 200-800 and greater image stabilization and focus tracking as well as correction the over-heating issue. The R1 is something I don’t know anything about and given its size and weight I don’t want to know. Some of the things on our wish list may not be technically feasible at this time or would cost too much for most people. Their research covers a world of people of which birders are just a small part. I am sure they know what they are doing financially.
Hey, thanks for the kind words about my tours. As far as bird and wildlife photographers being a small part of the pie, maybe they do know better than me, but boy, there sure are a lot of us out there and many of us buy the flagship equipment.
@@whistlingwingsphotography only Canon knows the numbers
I’m going to guess that the R5ii will have a battery grip that uses the bigger battery if what I’m seeing about a fan in the grip is true. That will allow them to keep true to their origins in the 1 series 24mp fast camera and the higher res 5 series line. Canon for sure have been sluggish but they have to release things when is right for them. Thanks for the video, some interesting comments.
Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment.
The battery grip likely will just have two of the same batteries that are already in the current R5. It is probably an electrical nightmare to allow two different types/sizes/ voltage of battery to operate these cameras. Would be shocked if they somehow manage to engineer that. The current R5 already lowers frame rates when the battery gets below 60%. It's not nearly in the class of the R3 in any metric except IQ. Everything else is second tier.
I think Canon could take the two batteries from the grip and get a higher voltage out to the camera and thus the lens. It just is not clear if they will bring this in the R5II. Of course, I want to see this for sure as I want the full cap. of my 600 f/4 when using the R5II. We shall see on July 17 what the R5II is really about.
10:30 IMHO a “Professional” photographer is someone that photographs as a business. They apply a commercial focus to their images. From purchasing gear to booking to setup to capture to processing to distribution and sales, a Professional photographer keeps finances in mind when making decisions.
I too was disappointed to read rumors the R1 is going to be 24 megapixel. I’m now rethinking my gear plans and considering a R5 in addition to a pair of R1.
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Hey, thanks for watching and commenting. I think I will be right behind you with getting two R5IIs. But, the R5II needs to have at least as good an AF speed and accuracy as the R3. I hope they have a grip for it that will allow the camera to drive my 600 f/4 at full capability.
I'm pleasantly surprised with this video as I remember you were very adamant that the R3 was more than adequate. Canon is doing it's customers a huge disservice by not having a high megapixel pro body camera as their flagship. The R1 is more like an R3 upgrade. The new R5 MK2 is second tier in every metric and this is what Canon is pushing on bird photographers. When the R1 is released then Canon will have 5 cameras with 24mpx and one high mpx (if you consider 45 mpx high) mirrorless camera that like I said before is second tier in every metric. The Z9 is looking better every day. Big files are no more detrimental than culling redundant shots at 200fps. Give me an R1 with a stacked 45mpx sensor and a mechanical shutter at 16 fps and electronic at 30fps with a huge battery and tank like durability. This is a market that Canon is overlooking. But I now suspect their business model is high volume value cameras and gimmicky lenses. How about some competition to the Nikon PF lenses? I appreciate your input as you are a real photographer with skills and not some UA-cam "influencer" who does nothing but shill for Canon and their love affair with 24mpx!
Hey, thanks for the input and kind words. When the R3 came out it was "adequate" with respect to AF and many other parameters. It is still the best in the hand body I have ever used. However, in this round of new bodies I really am not thrilled with the R1 staying at 24mp. I am beginning to think Canon cannot pull off a high mp flagship given tech limitations. 24mp just does not make sense and I don't buy the idea that this is what sports and media shooters demand. I still contend that if Canon brought out a 45-50mp R1 that it would sell more than a 24mp version. With regards to high volume, sure the cheaper "mass market" bodies and lenses will always be important to Canon's bottom line, but you need to do right by all the market segments in the end to really do well. A bit frustrating to say the least.
Amusing as usual Ron. I agree on your comments re.the R5. I'd add the stacked sensor. Rolling shutter with leaning trees in the background on BIF drives me crazy. And an AF that can "AI" detect and avoid twigs, small waves and leaves. If it can do animal eye, it can avoid "non animal" one would think.
Oh, yes, for sure, stacked sensor with fast read out so there is no detectable rolling shutter is a must. If that is not part of the R5II and R1 then Canon has a big problem. Thanks so much for watching and taking the time to comment.
I think they have messed up as you said R3 24mp stacked sensor, R1 24mp stacked sensor one being flagship the other placed next in line as you said makes no sense you now have the R5ii competing with the Nikon & Sony flagships while the R1 will be in its own class & you won’t convince me it’s a class the buyers are wanting.
Yep, the R1 thinking is puzzling. I am beginning to wonder if Canon does not have the tech to make a very fast 45-50mp flagship and all this talk about catering to sports and news shooters is just an excuse. It sure seems Sony and Nikon have a different take on the wants and needs out in the field. Some use the Sony a9III as an example of Sony catering to the news and sports shooters, given it is only 24mp. But, I think it is 24mp because it had to be in order for Sony to implement a global shutter. If they could have made the a9III 45mp would they have?
@@whistlingwingsphotography A bit sad if the biggest camera company out there does not have the tech of the others eh.
Yes, that would be sad. Of course I have no idea, and it may just be Canon being Canon and sticking to their way of segmenting their cameras to specific markets. Markets perhaps that have shifted and they are not responding to. Again, they should know.
That's excatly my thinking. Thank you for this video!
I've been waiting for what feels like an eternity for an R1 with at least 30 megapixels.
Now the big disappointment - this camera is supposed to have only 24 Mpix - Too bad, I already have the R3 for that. So that leaves at least the R5 Mark II to buy.
I've been shooting with Canon for years. (I only switched to Sony with the A9 and A7 3 and IV with the 200-600 Zoom in 2016-2020 when Canon was "Sleeping Beauty").
Now I'm back to Canon, partly because of their brilliant lenses.
So Canon, for us birders - please bring out an R1S with 45 MPix. The market will be bigger than you think.
Or, should we join Nikon? They have a light 800mm 6.3 and the Z8, or Z9 all what we need.
However, who wants to have two camera systems.. (Maybe I am too old to master two different menu systems, ha ha.)
You echo a lot of others and myself in many ways. I higher mp R1 would be well received and possible surprise Canon by selling more than a 24mp version. However, I am beginning to think that Canon cannot produce a 45mp R1. Their tech just will not allow it. Sony and Nikon may have the upper hand.
@@whistlingwingsphotography I agree! Well spoken.
currently use a 5D4 and its 36MP.....want more that 36 if i to put hand in pocket. and want much better autofocus and dynamic range. Agree bet Canon makes more money on the wildlife people over the pro-sports people. In both camera bodies and long lenses
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I am with you. I won’t buy R1 for 24 mp. I want R5 II at 45 mp, stacked sensor, and quad AF. R1 should be at 60 mp or so. 30 fps is more than enough for me.
Yep, you will get the first two for the R5II, but not the quad pixel AF. That will be relegated to the R1 I think. Quad pixel AF is necessary in all Canon bodies as it will make the issue with oversensitivity to vertical elements go bye bye. And that sensitivity is a problem.
ill be honest i switch to canon from nikon when the r5 came out and im really dissapointed in them rite now
I think the R5II is going to be great and be where it needs to be for a 5 series camera. It is the R1 that I am really wondering about. Right off the bat 24mp just seems wrong for a flagship body in 2024.
@@whistlingwingsphotography i couldn't agree more..
I personally would prefer it in the 30-50 MPx range. But I'm not a professional, and probably not the target audience.
Thanks for watching and commenting. Many non-professionals use the flagship camera bodies from the various makers.
@@whistlingwingsphotography Naturally. However that in itself doesn't necessarily mean that Canon should cater to them with their product.
Just like in a competitive video game, balancing is done towards the top end professional players, not the casual players. Casual players typically can make do with the tuning that is tailored to the best players.
Perhaps the same thing could be said for camera bodies. "Enthusiast" consumers should be able to make do with the camera bodies tailored for the professionals. Like, if it's good enough for professionals, surely it's good enough for less high-end consumers?
But people and shooting styles are different, different people have different wish lists of camera features. Eventually you just choose the tool that works best for what you like to do and can afford.
🇵🇹 I'm an amateur photographer. I have an R6 (20mgp) and an R5 (45). 20/24 mgp is clearly insufficient to photograph birds, have a camera with top specifications!!! For me, both the R3 and the supposed R1 coming with (24 mgp) is a tremendous weakness for the asking price. If they had at least 33 mgp they would cover all areas of the photography and thus the asking price was justifiable... 👁☻️
Thanks so much for watching and adding your thoughts to the discussion. Much appreciated.
I completely agree with you. I shoot birds too, but mine are engine-powered and they’re metal 😅.
There are many times when I wish I can go out to 500mm with more MP on the sensor- I shoot the RF100-500L on airfields as an Aviation shooter. I do shoot the R6 Mark II as well and it has delivered awesome results but I want more.
Hey, there are many cool species of metal birds too. I think I could get into that. Anyway, I am hoping the R5II gives us what we want. I am just afraid that it will not drive my 600 f/4 to is full speed and that is an issue for me.
I'm already disappointed by the rumored specs on the Canon R5 Mark II staying at 45 mp. I was hoping for a bump up to at least match the Sony A1 or A7r5. Nothing better than seeing amazing resolution on a bird--it's like a new pair of eyes. I have not bought the expensive 660 f4 yet--so if the autofocus is just on par with Sony, I may just jump over to Sony entirely. I'm tired of waiting for Canon. It just seems like the innovations are coming out earlier and quicker on Sony. And its funny--I still have an order for the Canon Rf 200-600 unfulfilled going on 7 months. Their ability to execute and deliver is also questionable. Not sure what is happening to Canon--it is definitely behind both Sony and amazingly Nikon--which was the last to mirrorless system. Sad.
It is a bit worrying regarding the lack of availability of products. It seems Canon is having a harder time with this than Sony and Nikon.
R5 and R3 are awesome. think you dont need a new one :D
It all depends on what an individual needs for the type of work they do. For what I do, I would like a Canon body at 45mp that can do what the R3 does at 24mp. I am hoping the R5II will meet that need. It seems the R1 will not given it is likely to be 24mp.
Hi Ron, I completely agree with everything you said. I'll be thoroughly disappointed if the R1 is 24 mega pixels. I currently own both the R3 and the R5; generally my wife uses the R5 and prefers it for several reasons, but very importantly because it is lighter. I've always opted for the flagship Canon model and I like having a larger camera with the larger capacity battery and better form factor. I also like the R3 because it is superior for birds in flight (minimal rolling shutter) and better autofocus. We often take bird photos together, but when I go alone and I'm not shooting birds in flight, I've find myself more often taking her R5. I simply prefer processing R5 files over R3 files; the final result is better. I've already decided, if the rumors are true, and the R1 has only 24 mega pixels, on July 17th (or whenever they are announced) I'll be buying two R5 Mark II's instead of one R5 II and one R1.
I may be right behind you in getting two R5IIs. We shall see how this all plays out.
Are we not getting to materialistic and carried away with always having the best/better gear? I've been following bird photography for many years and still look back and see plenty of stunning images taken in years gone by with 18mp 1dx's and the like. I challenge anyone to look through a series of bird photos and see if they can guess the camera? I think our skill sets (mine anyway) are more limiting than the technology to be honest..
A valid point. However, those of us who make a living from wildlife/bird photography need to be able to make more impactful images at a higher rate than in the past. The market is supersaturated with great imagery and there is no doubt all the new AF and other tech that has come and continues to come to cameras and lenses have made the market even more saturated with great imagery. For me, better tech means a higher number of impactful images. Moreover, I would love to be able to have just one camera body in the field that can do what I need it to do for all the scenarios I find myself shooting, without having to wish I had my other camera for a particular action sequence that was happen before me. I am hoping the R5II will fill the need for me.
I shoot with a R3. For most of my photography journey, I've shot full RAW. Lately, I've been shooting in CRaw. I cannot tell a difference. Have you ever shot in CRaw? For those photographers that say they don't want to large files...why not shoot in CRaw? Then we get the best of both worlds. Am I missing something?
I shoot is CRAW all the time. I agree, shooting in CRAW helps a lot with file size.
If Canon's R1 were 45+ megapixels, I would buy it in a heartbeat. Not going to pay $6000 or more for a 24 megapixel camera. Nope. Never.
I get it. I feel the same way. I will get the R1, because I want to shoot it, evaluate it, and report on it here from the perspective of a bird/wildlife photographer. But, I pay for everything I get, so it will likely be sold once I am done with a month or two of eval.
32mp and above in R1
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R1 with 30+MP would be great. When I shoot high speed (40+), I do not want 45 MP as the computertime will increase. Improved autofocus will be the real extra value. I am afraid this will mainly apply to sports and not to wildlife photography initially.
Interesting. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Nikon Z8 and Z9 users are getting 45mp and high FPS and loving it for wildlife photography...perhaps you are the outlier?
@@davepastern I don’t mind, as more MP’s are not by definition needed nor better.
@@AndiusTeijgeler both statements are false. More pixels means more pixels on the bird. That means more detail. Also, as Ron says, you can't always get close to the bird(s), even when shooting with long focal lengths. I had the pleasure of seeing and imaging our Regent Honeyeater last Sunday - a species that is critically endangered with less than 300 left in the wild. Even at 700mm (500mm prime and 1.4x TC) they were small in the frame. To do them justice, I probably needed something like a 600f4 with 2x TC on a APS-C crop body. They are typically very high up in Eucalypts, feeding on the seeds. This is a species that will probably be extinct within the next 10 years, despite government intervention. Getting a great image of them would be awesome don't you think? I have a R3 and cropping with my700mm reach (100% crop) is less than desirable. 45mp would be much better.
Yep, this is the dilemma we face. I am hoping the R5II fills the bill with great, fast AF and 45mp. Then the R1 being at 24mp will not matter to me. If the R5II AF is not up to the level of what I get from my R3 then I will be disappointed all around, because I still will not have one camera that will fit my needs.
I want both 45MP, 60MP would be better and incredibly better than R3 AF too! I want improved dynamic range and improved low light image quality. I want dual CF Express card slots. I want it for under $3,800 USD (you asked).
I gave up waiting for the R5MkII to come out. I got a second R5 instead for a great price from the Canon Loyalty program.
Once the R5MkII comes out, I will read reviews, wait until Canon works out the bugs and after a year or so, I may get a used or refurbished one, if the upgrade is worth the expense. Hopefully, the price will be more affordable by then.
I did ask, and you provided your answer. I think the R5II will be more in the 3995 range, but I hope not much more.
@@whistlingwingsphotography Yeah my guess is you're right about the price. I hope I am right about everything else.
Me too.
Personally Ron, I'd go for the R5 mkii and hold off on the R1 as it's not going to be such a big improvement for your needs over the R3. There's been recent speculation about an R3 mkii coming in 2025 with 45mp sensor which might be a better option.
Interesting about the R3II. It being 45mp would be the only way bringing out an R3II would make sense to me. I will keep an ear and eye out for more information along this line.
those R3II rumours are nothing but rumours...just as the R1 rumours were 61mp (look how wrong that was).
I am positive pros like Jan Wegener already have a R1 and are silently testing it. Jan denied it verbally, but the look in his eyes and body language in a recent video said otherwise. And he was very confidently saying it was 24mp. I put money on it that as soon as it's announced, and the embargo is lifted, he'll have a review video out.
More than likely. He needs to be careful about what he leaks out if he does have an R1 for initial review. Those NDAs can bite back.
@@whistlingwingsphotography of course. But Jan could easily switch to Nikon or Sony if he really wanted. He has shot with a A1 in the past, and loves the Z9 with Nikon's wonderful lens offerings.
I have owned and shot with them all as well. We all have the option to switch. It is just whether we can afford it or have the willingness to do so. Me, I will use the best tool for the job and it that clearly becomes another brand than Canon I will make the switch. I need to see the R5II and shoot with it for a while. Then I will know.
Yes!!!!! Another Ronny vid let’s gooo 😂
Hey, thanks for watching!
@@whistlingwingsphotography When it comes to the new canon cameras specifically the R5II im hoping at a minimum we see 50fps on stills (R6II does 40) and for this to happen it needs to have a readout id guess under 5ms so it needs to be a stacked guy. Im not a stickler for LCD updates or viewfinder improvements really but I think the autofocus has a ton of room for improvement now owning an R6 (which is suppose to be similar to the R5). In terms of Pixel density coming from the R7 made me realize too dense photosites is for sure a drawback so as long as the R5II is kept between 45MP and ~60MP I feel that is enough for me. We can see now that with R7 and its roughly 85MP full frame equivalent that the ISO performance is not great and something about how it resolves lenses like the 200-800 and the big whites just dont seem as pleasing to me as the less dense R3, R5 and R6 in terms of image quality. Everyone always complains about not having enough MP but dont look at the other side of the equation where low light performance is affected.
Personally from the R1 I would love to see 50-60fps, better preshot performance, maybe 30-35MP, and better AF, maybe 4k 180 fps for video.
I think people get too caught up in titles like flag ship camera. The 1 D cameras were always targeted for news and sports. I always looked to the R5 as the more universal camera the gave many genres of photographers what they needed to get the job done. Among that group are wildlife photographers. It’s the functionality of the tool, not the label.
Except, a 5DM4 and now an R5 can't drive the motors in the big whites. That's a problem. I think we need the lens to move as fast and as accurate as possible, more so than sports shooters (not that they shouldn't have it, they need it too, but so do we).
True, for me though, I want my camera body to drive my 600 f/4 RF to full capability and the R3/R1 may be the only body to do this given voltage of the larger battery. If the R5II can drive my 600 at full speed then I will be a happy camper. If not...
Canon is failing to adapt. Dinosaurs did that. Look what happened to them.
Well, strictly speaking the dinos were around for about 150 million years and an asteroid strike is what killed most of them. Not much they could do about that. Moreover, it is still the age of dinosaurs given birds are the direct decedents of dinosaurs and there of about 10,000 species of birds alive today. More than the 4000 species of mammals. Sorry, I am a wildlife/avian research biologist of 40+ years. Could not help myself.
@@whistlingwingsphotography of course. But, a lack of adaption didn't help. Not all Dinosaurs were killed by the asteroid impact. And other smaller, mammalian species survived the impact. So, my statement, in essence is indeed correct. I'm well aware of birds evolution :-)
If they have the technology available, why not make their flagship R1 a dual adjustable sensor? 60mp high and 30mp low. Plenty of resolution on high and speed aplenty on low. One can dream can't one?!😂
Yes, that would be awesome. But I have a feeling that tech is not possible or would be prohibitively expensive. Who knows, not me that is for sure.
The R3 is better and if the R1 is better than the R3 then I would rather wait for that that then purchase the R5ii
For me, it all depends on the resolution of the R1. If it is 24mp that is just a bit low for my bird photography work. 45mp really is a sweet spot for what I do. I love the overall performance and ergo. of the R3 and I am sure the R1 will be even better, but in the end if the R5II has an AF as good as the R3's at 45mp I will go for the R5II.
@@whistlingwingsphotography I understand where you’re coming from even though that 24mp quality is another class above the rest. The pictures and video are good enough for professional bird photography. I’d rather have better low light performance and lighting fast autofocus with upgraded continuous autofocus tracking shooting sports which is almost a given with the R1 compared to the R5ii however I favor the R3 and eventually the R1’s battery life and light weight compared to the R5’s heavy grip pad for extended battery use
@@hawaiifreespeechnews It all depends on what you do and how you use your imagery. I agree 100% the image quality off the R3 is great, but resolution is resolution and if you need that resolution then there is not much you can do. Sure you can use something like Gigapixel, but I have found that solution to not be much of a solution for getting more res, especially for bird images. There is one solution, get both the R1 and R5II. Ha ha! Cheers, Ron
The irony is, you’ll be making this same video in three or four years time.
❤so true
Ha, you are probably correct.
I hate to break it to some people, but Canon isn't going to release a R3II. NO way in hell will they undermine their top flagship R1. Let's be realistic here - a 35mp R3II? If such a beast was released, it would be crippled so as to not upstage the R1. What would be crippled? AF performance? Check. FPS? Check. sensor performance (high ISO/DR)? Check. EVF/LCD screen? Check. Don't expect dual CFExpress slots or large buffer either. It would be so gimped as to not be worth it.
The same logic will apply to the R5II. It'll be crippled in terms of FPS, high ISO/DR, buffer, battery performance, EVF/LCD etc. Yes, the R5II will be better than the original R5 - it bloody well better be, since the R5 is near 4 years old. It Canon can't beat a 4 year old camera, then they are screwed. Oh wait, they can't be the A1...righto...
I'm not a Canon hater, but as a long time user (EOS630 in 1989) I am entitled to voice my displeasure with their products and decisions. I reserve that right as a consumer.
Yep, we all have our opinions and have the right to voice them for the most part. There is a lot of frustration out there it seems. I think the R5II is going to be a big jump over the R5. It is the R1 that makes me scratch my head at 24mp if that is what it turns out to have with respect to resolution. 24mp on a flagship just seems not the way to go in todays market and if that is what Canon's market research says they should do I would like to see the numbers.
@@whistlingwingsphotography I wholly agree on the R1 being only 24mp and it's the flagship. Canon has always delineated the line between its pro and amateur range of cameras (and lenses), or what I, and many others, call the CrippleHammer™. Let's be realistic this is a very true problem with all manufacturers, but Canon is significantly worse in this respect than Sony or Nikon. This is why I strongly suspect that the R5II will not be as good as many users are expecting. Again, my predictions are same EVF and rear LCD screen, 45mp BSI stacked, 40fps top in ES mode, overheating problem with 8k video mostly solved, slightly (and emphasis on the word slightly I might add) better buffer. I am hoping that they'll do dual CFexpress card slots, but I expect it'll be CFExpress/SD like the original R5. Perhaps they will do dual, but CFExpress PCIE v3 vs v4 in the R1.
What price do you anticipate the R5II to sell for Ron? I'm thinking AUD $6500 (~USD $4350).
The R5II will be $3999 USD I am pretty sure of that. It will have one CFe and one SD slot. SD is too valuable to many shooters as they are easily obtained and read while in the field. Also two CFe cards means more heat and heat dissipation in a small body is always an issue. I think the EVF will be improved given the camera is supposed to have the eye controlled AF of the R3, but the LCD will be the same. It will def have a stacked sensor. For me the big thing is the AF performance. I want it to equal or be better than what I have in my R3. It needs to run my RF 600 f/4 to its top capability like the R3 does. If it does not, then wow. I will be disappointed.
@@whistlingwingsphotography that's AUD $6000. SD is an old card format that should go the way of the Dinosaur. Yes, dual CFE presents some design issues with heat dissipation, but surely Canon's engineering team is good enough to solve such issues? That's a good point about the EVF, I didn't think of that.
Ron - the AF on the R5II will *never* match the R3 - the R3 can deliver better AF performance because the bigger battery means more current and more torque to the AF motors. A smaller batter that the R5II will almost certainly use, will never have the current delivery to do this.
We need to wait and see on this. With the grip I am sure Canon could supply the voltage needed via the two batteries if they chose to do so. I am not sure this will happen, but we will know on July 17 or shortly thereafter.
Honestly, I think canon is pretty stupid. Sony’s flagship is 50 , Nikons is 45. if the journalist don’t like 45 megapixels just keep using the R3. Flagship has a different definition now. It used to just be the low megapixel fast pro body.
Honestly, and we all know that this is true, The R3 was supposed to be the R1.
I agree, these days a flagship body like the R1 needs to more than 24mp. The low mp were needed before so the body could be fast due to the state of technology years back. Now, it is possible to have 45-50mp and very fast performance all the way around and thus, I think, that is where a flagship needs to be. Sony and Nikon at least think so. Some will argue the a9III only being 24mp shows this is not true. But, it may be that Sony, with the a9III, prioritized bringing out the global shutter and could not do more than 24mp and make it work. I bet is Sony could have made a 45mp global shutter work at a reasonable cost the a9III would have been 45mp or more.
In my opinion, any flagship camera for wildlife photography irrespective of brand, with a 24MP sensor, is an absolute joke. I am just an advanced hobbyist level photographer and have invested SIGNIFFICANTLY more money on my encrypted NVME raid SSD storage and computer for image processing, than my investment (over $80K) in the past few years for my RF600MM f4 (not to mention my R3 and R5 and other lenses). Purchasing a flagship camera with 24 MP sensor is a waist of money in the rest of my photography hardware portfolio. I am waiting to see what is released this year so I can decide if the last 2 years of saving money plus my $80 grand in Canon hardware supports the wait, or is it time for a dump and switch brands event. Canon needs to consider ALL the other stuff we purchase for our hobby/profession. Those decisions weigh heavily on the investments in hardware and software over and beyond just the camera/lens acquisition.
Canon may look at the R5II as being the "flagship" wildlife body and the R1 as the "flagship" sports and news body. I think that may be a mistake as I have been talking to and polling a lot of photographers and Canon may be underestimating the customer base they are missing by not putting out a 45mp R1.
@@whistlingwingsphotography I would even entertain an R1 32MP sensor as to not destroy all their speed and low light specs. But accepting 24 MP is too big an ask for me.
Hey, 32mp would be a nice bump over 24mp and I would be happy with that.
Canon sit on their tech and drip-feed the consumer. They have had perfectly useable sensors well over 100MP for at least the last 15 years sitting in their basement. Sony pushes forward with their tech and implements within a few years, 5/6 max! Yes Canon is nicer in the hand but Sony mirrorless provides a lot more options ahead of what Canon are offering, and it will remain so for at least the next decade. Very soon Sony will release over 100MP, maybe by the end of the year!
When Sony went mirrorless, the image quality, better noise, dynamic range made me switch. They weren't good for wildlife back then but within a few years are now strides ahead. If Canon don't meet your needs today why wait till tomorrow? Don't make excuses about ergonomics, selling lenses and gear at a loss.., every problem has a solution. Don't forget Sony can use Canon and many other 3rd party lenses adaptive and native mounts. Again it will be more than a decade before Canon catch up and wise up. Good luck! 🙃🙂👍
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I got fed up with all the hype from canon after waiting 15 weeks for my R7 I can see the R5mk2 being drawn out more so !😡.
I’ve sold myR7 ,100/500 ,1.4 and moved to Sony alpha 1, won’t be going back to canon
Seems this is happening more and more. We shall see what the future brings as it is nigh upon us.
Ron just think of it this way , the R7 has more mega pixels than the new R 1 , Just like what you said , Canon is full of a 4 lettered word , they have no idea what they're even doing I personally think Canon is hiring KIDS straight out of high school , just Look at some of the CRAPP they've come up with lately .
An interesting take, for sure.
The availability is a concern once it does come out. I’m still waiting for the 200 - 800 millimeter RF lens to become available. It’s been out of stock pretty much since it came out. I have the R5 camera. I would love for Canon to keep the megapixels at 45, but I’m hoping that the bird eye focusing system improves greatly.
Thank you very much for watching and taking the time to comment. I really think the AF on the R5II is going to be much better than the R5. It really has to be given 4 years of new tech development has gone into it. Availability is another issue. I find it difficult to swallow that you are still waiting for a 200-800. That just is not right. I do not see how Canon can continue if they cannot get product out to buyers. All we can do is hope they do better moving forward.