I bought a poseidon starlight 12 small aftermarket for $130 and it was barely used. However, the scroll wheel and dpi button is off center (scroll wheel sometimes grinds as a result), when tapping (not clicking) the right button it ticks, there's minimal rattle, and there's nicks in the paint job although that's probably from the seller, the skates are awful, and the coating is no where near the league of the x2 mini bl. My x2 mini bruce lee's quality is 1000 times better but I bought the sl12 as a collectors piece. Not really planning on using it.
If their hyperlight is the same quality, then I'm definitely not buying for actual use. It just feels so incredibly clunky and awful to use even though I technically perform well with it.
@@bearIyy $130 is a super good deal 👌 but stinks you didn't like it as much. Poseidon is a great collection piece tho, sweet color. Can't go wrong with that Bruce Lee tho enjoy it 🥷🫡
I'm not particularly interested about mice and mouse pads but your style of reviewing is so well done, that I can't help but click on more of your videos. Keep up the great work! This will be the first channel I look at when I retire my GPX.
Another great review, personally will never get one because they are a pain to get in Australia but its good to see a smaller reviewer get into these without overhyping or hating the product. Keep it up
Finally someone from Australia that I can relate to. During the drop I wasn't only in Australia, I was also in the Sydney Airport... In other words, I was out of luck
Quick note: the start of the video is scuffed with how the music cuts in because I had some copyright issue, had to let YT add other music over it or otherwise I'd need to reupload 😅 sorry!
I spent the whole day marathoning all its content and taking it as a reference for my channel! in my peripheral country such as these are not easy and simple to find and it is always good to acquire more knowledge before bringing something new and different to my audience, congratulations for the work! success.
great review lemonade, i just got my Tenz version and i'm amazed by the battery life of this mouse, thankfully my copy doesn't have any qc issues....... yet 😅 and i want to ask do you recommend updating to the latest firmware for the mouse?
Awesome review dude! I remember the excitement of getting my first Starlight with the Tenz S. Then after a few weeks I noticed I was performing better with other mice so I sold it. The grips were great but I do agree maybe too thick and not sitting flush bugged me, a LOT
Ya I'll have to see how it wears with time but so far can't complain. I think at least exclusively for fingertip it's near end game but we shall see this year.
I've had my OGs since launch, thankfully I never had Q/C issues apart from an off center scroll wheel but that's something that didn't mess with functionality. Apart from that they have been absolutely stellar for me, I also charge once a month and battery life has been great. The mice actually improved as time went by, the firmware reduced latency by quite a bit incrementally. Since firmware 1.3.1, the wireless performance has finally been made indistinguishable to wired performance. Recently got the TenZ and I can say without a doubt, they didn't call it PRO just for marketing. The clicks are much lighter now but apart from that, it is quite similar to the OG models. The base has been strengthened as well but this was never an issue with the OG's. I can feel it however because the PRO models are actually 2g heavier! Overall though, the Starlight Small shape is probably one of the best, I have the SE coming in tomorrow, and honestly the Viper Mini is the only shape that can rival the Starlight. It's funny how Razer ends up making a magnesium mouse but charges a 100 dollar premium for it. Everyone talked shit about FM for charging so much but realize now what a deal it was. If FM had wireless tech like Razer, they would have definitely been the best, thankfully we have the ULX coming out very soon. Carbon Composite Mouse at 29g, 4K Polling, USB-C, available in 3 different sizes, and is NOT limited. The only thing that stopped me from recommending FM beforehand was how limited they were. This has now been remedied and I can confidently recommend FM from here on out.
Ya totally agree it really comes down to availability and with that being addressed it's easier to recommend the brand. In terms of magnesium, ya you can clearly see it's a expensive process to scale with as Razers mouse is $280 and now Pwnage is coming out with one for $170-$180. So FM wasn't being crazy for being the first to work with the material. appreciate your insight on owning so many of these, cheers to the ULX and 2023 😉
@@UpgradeLemonade So I ended up getting a very low S/N (double digits), my SE has been perfect apart from a slight mismatch of the LMB and RMB. I was offered a free replacement but turned it down, honestly its not that bad, and not having the S/N match the # on the box would defeat the purpose of having 1 of 1337. The clicks are insanely crisp, crisper than anything I have ever used previously. The mouse feels much more solid vs the Starlight, thanks to it being a unibody magnesium piece. I modded the TenZ with the Razer 4K PCB and while the optical switches have improved the crispiness, the SE is even better. I thought I'd have a tough time deciding which to main but for me, the SE is just a tad too long VS the Starlight Small. So for the time being I will be maining the TenZ (Razer 4K Mod).
@@JtwasLuck Finalmouse on top 🤘😎 naw but hey at least your were honest with yourself, in the end overall shape/balance is the most important. But very cool to have a double digit SE Viper
@@UpgradeLemonade We get caught up on having low weight and getting the latest sensor but honestly all that matters is the shape of the mouse. We aren't using MLT04 sensors anymore where upgrading the sensor actually made a difference.
I honestly enjoy the aesthetic of the magnesium shell and having one of these (Starlight Phantom) as a mouse enthusiast is nice. It's a good mouse but lacks software and the ability to have Custom settings such as DPI which is a big downside for me personally. Finalmouse does roll out firmware updates to improve them and the process of doing so has become easier over time so that's one thing I can appreciate about them despite not making software. If I stick with it I feel I could definitely beat some aim scores but not really perform better in the games I play. I'm looking forward to trying to pick up one of the forged carbon mice they will be putting out this year.
Ya well said I did accidentally hit the dpi button once, I'd like software to disable it on these next mice. But overall they've done some good work for the peripheral community
Ayo! That Atlantis mini sounding like its over there on a bed! Another banger review! The buyer of that Last legend couldn't be happier with it. ;) Great reviewer, great review, great mouse, great person! PS. The mini I got has none of that creaking yours has (if where you pointed to was where you squeezed that produced that epic bed rocking sound). Either way, TIMBALAND TAKE THAT ISH AND DO SUMN FAM! W content!
@@Lumidon No, there is no communication between seller and buyer. They just list the product and you can offer a lower price or buy it at the price they list. In this case, it was a really random low listing and I bought it immediately. Stockx verifies the products authenticity so it isn’t a fake.
agree about the unboxing experience, its very bland. The puck needs to go for the adapter. Scroll wheel has never been straight since the first finalmouse. Good video lemonade
For the price I just don't see why they put such an old sensor into this mouse but I have to say that the build quality of my copy was great with no QC issues
Yeah I feel that, but luckily it's the best 3370 implementation I've ever tested. Very consistent. New mouse coming in June will have newer sensor tho 👌
any new mouse releases you're really interested in? would be cool to know the opinion of a person who already owns a good amount both for what ur looking at and ur eventual reviews :)
Lots of stuff always coming. Finalmouse new ULX, Pwnage Stormbreaker, Pulsars new lineup, LGG LA1, Ayre FCC1 , and ...... The new G Pro Superlight V2..... 😉😉😉
Cool review. The arm sleeve you use arrived yesterday since I finally decided to order it during the weekend but, my arm feels like it can't move as fast. Gpw is still endgame since I tried the Atlantis again and the clicks are a bit too short and the performance isn't as high,
Looks almost as good as my corded logitech g502. Imagine putting holes in your mouse to make it lighter when the g502 comes with extra weights you can add to it.
Got my LL, love it. Only issue is in 4 days of light use I get my LMB sticking so a single click will make me spray a wall with bullets in say valorant
@@UpgradeLemonade okay finally got my LL sent to my mod guy. hes gained a lot of traffic in his modding so the wait for him to get to my mouse can be either a week or 2. might possibly let me jump ahead a little cause its a quick switch swap and were buds but idk.
finalmouse have cool ideas in their products with their materials etc. but i just do not think about buying them as a serious prospect just because of all the stupid shit they do around marketing, hypebeast style drops and forced exclusivity
@@remkoe3418 MCU is a microcontroller unit , essentially it's the brains that's processes the data the sensor receives. Nordic is the company who makes this one. Nordic MCUs are regarded as some of the best in the industry(along with STM) but can be difficult to implement properly. That's why usually top tier mice brands use them cause they have teams who know how to work with them properly. Lesser MCUs brands you will see more commonly on budget mice are CompX and Sintex which are easier to work with but not always as consistent. Is it night and day difference? No, but it's a higher quality part overall
@@remkoe3418 I answered the MCU question on your other reply. In terms of 3370 no it's not old. The differences between a 3395/3950 and a 3370 are so insignificant you won't notice. The more important part is how the software is implemented with the MCU versus just the sensor alone. Like I showed on the graphs here the Finalmouse is just a bit more consistent overall even though the X2 mini runs a 3395 sensor
I'm not a big reviewer 😂 anyway it's all preference Chris, a Finalmouse isn't magically going to make anyone better. You can perform great with a $30 wired mouse. But Finalmouse does some cool stuff with materials, design and weight so from a hobby perspective it's interesting
Great video bro. Have to agree with the unboxing experience, even the sora at least to me has a slightly more premium unboxing experience for the price. Sucks that the QC on finalmice are still a hit or miss. keep it up
Owners of Starlights.... what are your thoughts, how do you feel about your purchase and the brand? 💞
Loved the video man !! Would you be willing to sell it ? Interested in buying
I bought a poseidon starlight 12 small aftermarket for $130 and it was barely used. However, the scroll wheel and dpi button is off center (scroll wheel sometimes grinds as a result), when tapping (not clicking) the right button it ticks, there's minimal rattle, and there's nicks in the paint job although that's probably from the seller, the skates are awful, and the coating is no where near the league of the x2 mini bl. My x2 mini bruce lee's quality is 1000 times better but I bought the sl12 as a collectors piece. Not really planning on using it.
If their hyperlight is the same quality, then I'm definitely not buying for actual use. It just feels so incredibly clunky and awful to use even though I technically perform well with it.
@@salvadorfernandez3455 um....no, I like it too much xD glad you enjoyed the video tho :)
@@bearIyy $130 is a super good deal 👌 but stinks you didn't like it as much. Poseidon is a great collection piece tho, sweet color. Can't go wrong with that Bruce Lee tho enjoy it 🥷🫡
I'm not particularly interested about mice and mouse pads but your style of reviewing is so well done, that I can't help but click on more of your videos. Keep up the great work! This will be the first channel I look at when I retire my GPX.
That's so refreshing to hear thank you so much 🙏🍻 glad you enjoy it. We should be getting a new version of the GPX this year so keep an eye out 😉😉
Another great review, personally will never get one because they are a pain to get in Australia but its good to see a smaller reviewer get into these without overhyping or hating the product. Keep it up
ya thats fair, its hard to grab these globally, hopefully that changes. Appreciate the kind words, I try to keep it fair !
Finally someone from Australia that I can relate to. During the drop I wasn't only in Australia, I was also in the Sydney Airport... In other words, I was out of luck
Quick note: the start of the video is scuffed with how the music cuts in because I had some copyright issue, had to let YT add other music over it or otherwise I'd need to reupload 😅 sorry!
I spent the whole day marathoning all its content and taking it as a reference for my channel! in my peripheral country such as these are not easy and simple to find and it is always good to acquire more knowledge before bringing something new and different to my audience, congratulations for the work! success.
Cheers brother and thank you for the kind words, glad it helped 🙂🙏
@@UpgradeLemonade you are welcome. Could you help me get in touch with the people at pulsar ?
@@losr you can reach them via Twitter message! I don't have a specific contact sorry
great review lemonade, i just got my Tenz version and i'm amazed by the battery life of this mouse, thankfully my copy doesn't have any qc issues....... yet 😅
and i want to ask do you recommend updating to the latest firmware for the mouse?
Great to hear! And thanks 🙏 also yes I always keep latest firmware
Awesome review dude! I remember the excitement of getting my first Starlight with the Tenz S. Then after a few weeks I noticed I was performing better with other mice so I sold it. The grips were great but I do agree maybe too thick and not sitting flush bugged me, a LOT
Ya I'll have to see how it wears with time but so far can't complain. I think at least exclusively for fingertip it's near end game but we shall see this year.
I've had my OGs since launch, thankfully I never had Q/C issues apart from an off center scroll wheel but that's something that didn't mess with functionality. Apart from that they have been absolutely stellar for me, I also charge once a month and battery life has been great. The mice actually improved as time went by, the firmware reduced latency by quite a bit incrementally. Since firmware 1.3.1, the wireless performance has finally been made indistinguishable to wired performance. Recently got the TenZ and I can say without a doubt, they didn't call it PRO just for marketing. The clicks are much lighter now but apart from that, it is quite similar to the OG models. The base has been strengthened as well but this was never an issue with the OG's. I can feel it however because the PRO models are actually 2g heavier!
Overall though, the Starlight Small shape is probably one of the best, I have the SE coming in tomorrow, and honestly the Viper Mini is the only shape that can rival the Starlight. It's funny how Razer ends up making a magnesium mouse but charges a 100 dollar premium for it. Everyone talked shit about FM for charging so much but realize now what a deal it was.
If FM had wireless tech like Razer, they would have definitely been the best, thankfully we have the ULX coming out very soon. Carbon Composite Mouse at 29g, 4K Polling, USB-C, available in 3 different sizes, and is NOT limited. The only thing that stopped me from recommending FM beforehand was how limited they were. This has now been remedied and I can confidently recommend FM from here on out.
Ya totally agree it really comes down to availability and with that being addressed it's easier to recommend the brand. In terms of magnesium, ya you can clearly see it's a expensive process to scale with as Razers mouse is $280 and now Pwnage is coming out with one for $170-$180. So FM wasn't being crazy for being the first to work with the material. appreciate your insight on owning so many of these, cheers to the ULX and 2023 😉
@@UpgradeLemonade So I ended up getting a very low S/N (double digits), my SE has been perfect apart from a slight mismatch of the LMB and RMB. I was offered a free replacement but turned it down, honestly its not that bad, and not having the S/N match the # on the box would defeat the purpose of having 1 of 1337. The clicks are insanely crisp, crisper than anything I have ever used previously. The mouse feels much more solid vs the Starlight, thanks to it being a unibody magnesium piece. I modded the TenZ with the Razer 4K PCB and while the optical switches have improved the crispiness, the SE is even better. I thought I'd have a tough time deciding which to main but for me, the SE is just a tad too long VS the Starlight Small. So for the time being I will be maining the TenZ (Razer 4K Mod).
@@JtwasLuck Finalmouse on top 🤘😎 naw but hey at least your were honest with yourself, in the end overall shape/balance is the most important. But very cool to have a double digit SE Viper
@@UpgradeLemonade We get caught up on having low weight and getting the latest sensor but honestly all that matters is the shape of the mouse. We aren't using MLT04 sensors anymore where upgrading the sensor actually made a difference.
@@JtwasLuck well said! Exactly my thoughts
I honestly enjoy the aesthetic of the magnesium shell and having one of these (Starlight Phantom) as a mouse enthusiast is nice. It's a good mouse but lacks software and the ability to have Custom settings such as DPI which is a big downside for me personally. Finalmouse does roll out firmware updates to improve them and the process of doing so has become easier over time so that's one thing I can appreciate about them despite not making software. If I stick with it I feel I could definitely beat some aim scores but not really perform better in the games I play. I'm looking forward to trying to pick up one of the forged carbon mice they will be putting out this year.
Ya well said I did accidentally hit the dpi button once, I'd like software to disable it on these next mice. But overall they've done some good work for the peripheral community
Ayo! That Atlantis mini sounding like its over there on a bed! Another banger review!
The buyer of that Last legend couldn't be happier with it. ;)
Great reviewer, great review, great mouse, great person!
PS. The mini I got has none of that creaking yours has (if where you pointed to was where you squeezed that produced that epic bed rocking sound).
Either way, TIMBALAND TAKE THAT ISH AND DO SUMN FAM!
W content!
Hahahah sounds like it's on a bed 😂😂😂 and ty for the kind words always brother, glad you are enjoying your copy
Cant wait to see you review the ulx and center piece.
Should be fun 😉
Just copped the Last Legend for $152 on stockx in size medium! Super excited
Amazing deal 😎enjoy it 😁
Did you have to haggle?
@@Lumidon No, there is no communication between seller and buyer. They just list the product and you can offer a lower price or buy it at the price they list. In this case, it was a really random low listing and I bought it immediately. Stockx verifies the products authenticity so it isn’t a fake.
agree about the unboxing experience, its very bland. The puck needs to go for the adapter. Scroll wheel has never been straight since the first finalmouse. Good video lemonade
Appreciate it Luna ☺️
You lost me at creek test. Creak.
LOL I never even noticed that, first one who caught it. Good job 😅
Hello, nice review. May I ask what arm sleeve you used from the video?
I found them on Amazon, come in a 2 pack. It's a compression style sleeve, comfortable overall and soft amzn.to/3EHzq8X
Ok bro, love your content. Its educational to someone who wants to customized their mouse switch. Thank youu!
@@OguunGames ya np glad I can help , thanks for watching 🙏
For the price I just don't see why they put such an old sensor into this mouse but I have to say that the build quality of my copy was great with no QC issues
Yeah I feel that, but luckily it's the best 3370 implementation I've ever tested. Very consistent. New mouse coming in June will have newer sensor tho 👌
any new mouse releases you're really interested in? would be cool to know the opinion of a person who already owns a good amount both for what ur looking at and ur eventual reviews :)
Lots of stuff always coming. Finalmouse new ULX, Pwnage Stormbreaker, Pulsars new lineup, LGG LA1, Ayre FCC1 , and ...... The new G Pro Superlight V2..... 😉😉😉
Cool review. The arm sleeve you use arrived yesterday since I finally decided to order it during the weekend but, my arm feels like it can't move as fast. Gpw is still endgame since I tried the Atlantis again and the clicks are a bit too short and the performance isn't as high,
Interesting on the arm sleeve hmmm 🤔 but hey it's all preference and feel so
@@UpgradeLemonade think i just need more time to get used to it
Looks almost as good as my corded logitech g502. Imagine putting holes in your mouse to make it lighter when the g502 comes with extra weights you can add to it.
you shall never speak of the dark days of adding weights, we were all wrong.
love ur vids man
Appreciate the kind words Saif 😊🙏
Got my LL, love it. Only issue is in 4 days of light use I get my LMB sticking so a single click will make me spray a wall with bullets in say valorant
Damn :/ is that an easy fix ? Haven't run into that
@@UpgradeLemonade not sure, shipping it to my mouse mod guy not to long from now to fix it.
@@I_Am_Hateful let us know
@@UpgradeLemonade okay finally got my LL sent to my mod guy. hes gained a lot of traffic in his modding so the wait for him to get to my mouse can be either a week or 2. might possibly let me jump ahead a little cause its a quick switch swap and were buds but idk.
@@I_Am_Hateful nice! Best of luck hopefully it gets you in quicker 😉
finalmouse have cool ideas in their products with their materials etc. but i just do not think about buying them as a serious prospect just because of all the stupid shit they do around marketing, hypebeast style drops and forced exclusivity
Ya I can respect that, going forward they will be easier to obtain and should have regular in stock versions so let's see how they execute
i now own 3 starlights i deff drank the koolaid lol
It really is something special I gotta give it to them 😅
It's so nice the weight balance is near perfect for me and the medium is my go-to size I got like Shaq hands
What pad is that? :O
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@@UpgradeLemonade i love u mr upgrade
@@hiimdrewdlr 🙏♥️
What’s the sensor in this mouse ?
Pixart 3370 adapted and using a Nordic MCU, it's very very consistent
@@UpgradeLemonade what is Nordic MCU ?
@@UpgradeLemonade is 3370 old for 2023 ? and is it good sensor ? + what is nordic mcu ?
@@remkoe3418 MCU is a microcontroller unit , essentially it's the brains that's processes the data the sensor receives. Nordic is the company who makes this one. Nordic MCUs are regarded as some of the best in the industry(along with STM) but can be difficult to implement properly. That's why usually top tier mice brands use them cause they have teams who know how to work with them properly. Lesser MCUs brands you will see more commonly on budget mice are CompX and Sintex which are easier to work with but not always as consistent. Is it night and day difference? No, but it's a higher quality part overall
@@remkoe3418 I answered the MCU question on your other reply. In terms of 3370 no it's not old. The differences between a 3395/3950 and a 3370 are so insignificant you won't notice. The more important part is how the software is implemented with the MCU versus just the sensor alone. Like I showed on the graphs here the Finalmouse is just a bit more consistent overall even though the X2 mini runs a 3395 sensor
sweet
Goat man 🫡
Can a big reviewer come out and just called these mice for what they are. SCAM
I'm not a big reviewer 😂 anyway it's all preference Chris, a Finalmouse isn't magically going to make anyone better. You can perform great with a $30 wired mouse. But Finalmouse does some cool stuff with materials, design and weight so from a hobby perspective it's interesting
Great video bro. Have to agree with the unboxing experience, even the sora at least to me has a slightly more premium unboxing experience for the price. Sucks that the QC on finalmice are still a hit or miss.
keep it up
Hmmm good point! Ya forgot how nice the Sora was to unbox 👌 thanks for watching and supporting dude 😎