I loved magsorc prior to the animation cancelling "nerfs". Was that a big shift for you? How have you adjusted if so? I found it so clunky that it drove me to play stam altogether, but I miss my frag procs and wizardly ascetics. Appreciate any response, thanks for the great content as always. Cheers
@@maxlsweet777 it takes flavor out of it, true, but the class still has a unique feel to it even if it's less animation cancelling than before. So it's not unplayable for me yet.
I’ve tried other builds for my mag sorc but I keep going back to crafty and grace with chudan + DDF or markyn. Wretched and RC are good sets but they just don’t fit magsorc the way I want them to. 53k mag with 20k+ stam just feels right for all circumstances in my opinion.
I use the same , Ancient Grace , Crafty Alfiq, mighty chudan, Markyn ring of majesty , 1 trainee . I also tried other builds but find this is so sweet my shields make me literally un killable since you get major resolve from chudan and minor resolve from vigour . Very tanky and still have hella max mag and spell damage
Thanks! Honestly I don't think healthsorc is viable for nocp, either way I'm not too bothered trying different playstyles other than the one nocp max mag build I have because nocp Cyrodiil is boring to me.
Great video, as always. Do you have any suggestions for a non pet dueling build? I’m running way of fire at the moment but I can’t find a good consistent second set to pair
I would suggest working out something with master ice staff on the backbar. It's a lot of DMG and DMG reduction. You could pair way of fire with draugrkin or vateshran inferno.
Great info, thank you. I know non-proc Cyro isn't very popular but I'm sticking with it for now. What do you think of Pariah over Torug's to pair with Crafty Alfiq for no CP? Which would you pick and why?
The build is updated on the website, very similar to this video. Noting much changed for sorc. Currently I run rallying cry Vitality ddf chudan, with crushing weapon as spammable instead of crushing shock, but it's preference.
Reallt want to try out the health sorc. Got a question tho , i sometimes play with friend. Would you slot suppresion field for that as ult? And if so would you trade out weapons expert cp to something else? Keep up the good work mate💪🏻
Thanks! It depends on the setup your friend has. If he's a melee brawler kind of player and has an aoe ult and you two coordinate ults well, it's a good idea to try negate. If your friend is a kite spec as well (like rollerblade or sorc) it's best to stick with overload. If you don't use overload weapons expert is not worth it, better go for master at arms, deadly aim, fighting finesse, ironclad or duelist's rebuff.
For the max mag sorc could khajiit work? That's what my sorc is and I have other crit builds I use on him and would hate to change race if I don't have to
Question could I use balorgh or kjalnar instead of chudan? Then use boundless storm and alliance spell pots as my source of major sorcery and prophecy? It also gives major intellect so I can use a damage bb set like rally instead of wretched. Or is crit surge too much of a big heal? Does Crit surge make a difference in survivability in magsorc. Is it a game changing heal?
im trying out imperium wrath 3 jewelry "(2 items) Adds 129 Weapon and Spell Damage (3 items) Adds 325 Weapon and Spell Damage to your ranged direct damage abilities" with wretched and maybe balorgs to pump out more spell damage and pen maybe vate sharan resto back bar for more recovery. what do you think?
Vateshran resto is not worth it, it's better to backbar vitality. Imperium wrath is ok and I've tried it out as well, so if you want to make a build with that it should work.
I haven't noticed, aside from the occasional shield and streak bugs where the input happens but there's a random 1s delay before casting, it's nothing consistent but it can be annoying if it's at the wrong time
@@MalcolM. I'll have some skills that have timers and show up in the status bar but had no animation. I don't even trust that they are actually applied.
2x Monster set - Head/Shoulder 1x Trainee - Chest 5x set 1 - 2x Frontbar Weapons + Leg/Boot/Glove 5x set 2 - 2x Backbar Weapons + Necklace/Ring/Ring 1x Mythic - Belt You can swap your mythic into any other body armor or jewelry slot, then move the 5 piece around, it doesn't need to be a belt. Just an example. There is a total of 14 slots. 7 armor, 3 jewelry, 2 front weapon, 2 back weapon.
just coming back after a long break from eso and a even longer break from sorc but looking hard at spinner instead of crafty for more pen and wd still sits 43k mag and 33k health on a high elf
Wretched Vitality is a good set for magsorc so you can't go wrong there. I don't like nmg on magsorc because it's just for barspace but I need my sets to carry DMG, sustain or healing since magsorc toolkit is mid. Plus elemental drain gives a nice bit of extra sustain and procs wretched Vitality. I'm not sure what you mean with ice shield.
@@MalcolM. hey m8 thx for answering I mean Hard Protect shield to shields ore Hard Protect on Front bar and healing shield on backbar .. yeah but I don’t like elemental drain in Cyro ore bgs is not so good my opinion… Sorry my English not so good I’m German haha
Alfiq and wretched Vitality are both very accessible then. You can run the max mag build in this video with some changes: You can replace chudan by 1pc baron thirsk and 1pc swarm mother. Replace the mythic by 2nd piece trainee. Put some more attribute points in health so you get 28k+. Replace elemental drain by hurricane.
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I loved magsorc prior to the animation cancelling "nerfs". Was that a big shift for you? How have you adjusted if so? I found it so clunky that it drove me to play stam altogether, but I miss my frag procs and wizardly ascetics. Appreciate any response, thanks for the great content as always. Cheers
@@maxlsweet777 it takes flavor out of it, true, but the class still has a unique feel to it even if it's less animation cancelling than before. So it's not unplayable for me yet.
@@MalcolM. Aye, your plays are evidence of that gusto. Thank you for the inspiration :)
I’ve tried other builds for my mag sorc but I keep going back to crafty and grace with chudan + DDF or markyn. Wretched and RC are good sets but they just don’t fit magsorc the way I want them to. 53k mag with 20k+ stam just feels right for all circumstances in my opinion.
grace?
@@princeofdorne7643 Im guessing grace of the ancients
do you mind sharing ur build?
Yeah u mind sharing ur build? Skills, mundus, like Malcolm has here?
I use the same , Ancient Grace , Crafty Alfiq, mighty chudan, Markyn ring of majesty , 1 trainee . I also tried other builds but find this is so sweet my shields make me literally un killable since you get major resolve from chudan and minor resolve from vigour . Very tanky and still have hella max mag and spell damage
Loving the dark deal changes on hybrid sorc. I had psijic leveled up but race agaisnt time overlapped with many skills i was already using
Yeah it's a strong buff for that spec as they weren't using rat anyway
Great video. For the health sorc, what sets would you recommend for no cp campaigns?
Thanks! Honestly I don't think healthsorc is viable for nocp, either way I'm not too bothered trying different playstyles other than the one nocp max mag build I have because nocp Cyrodiil is boring to me.
@@MalcolM.o you have this build posted? If so can you drop a link? It would be useful for battlegrounds players like myself.
Try crafty Alfiq & Torugs pact back bar.
Great video, as always. Do you have any suggestions for a non pet dueling build? I’m running way of fire at the moment but I can’t find a good consistent second set to pair
I would suggest working out something with master ice staff on the backbar. It's a lot of DMG and DMG reduction. You could pair way of fire with draugrkin or vateshran inferno.
Hey, what do you think about the Wretched Vitality+Snake in the Stars build? The new set is pretty weird.
Is old school duel wield mag sorc viable?
love the video! what kind of rotation would you advise? just started playing my magsorc in pvp but struggle with the rotation.
Great info, thank you. I know non-proc Cyro isn't very popular but I'm sticking with it for now. What do you think of Pariah over Torug's to pair with Crafty Alfiq for no CP? Which would you pick and why?
I was literally clenching cheeks watching you kite those blues lol
For the max mag build, what's outdate/updated for update 40? Also, what would you change for BGs?
The build is updated on the website, very similar to this video. Noting much changed for sorc. Currently I run rallying cry Vitality ddf chudan, with crushing weapon as spammable instead of crushing shock, but it's preference.
Reallt want to try out the health sorc. Got a question tho , i sometimes play with friend. Would you slot suppresion field for that as ult? And if so would you trade out weapons expert cp to something else? Keep up the good work mate💪🏻
Thanks! It depends on the setup your friend has. If he's a melee brawler kind of player and has an aoe ult and you two coordinate ults well, it's a good idea to try negate. If your friend is a kite spec as well (like rollerblade or sorc) it's best to stick with overload. If you don't use overload weapons expert is not worth it, better go for master at arms, deadly aim, fighting finesse, ironclad or duelist's rebuff.
@@MalcolM. thanks for the reply mate!
For the max mag sorc could khajiit work? That's what my sorc is and I have other crit builds I use on him and would hate to change race if I don't have to
Question could I use balorgh or kjalnar instead of chudan? Then use boundless storm and alliance spell pots as my source of major sorcery and prophecy? It also gives major intellect so I can use a damage bb set like rally instead of wretched. Or is crit surge too much of a big heal? Does Crit surge make a difference in survivability in magsorc. Is it a game changing heal?
How about engine guardian on the health sorc for some extra healing/sustain?
Nah engine guardian too op
nice build ! Why don't you use elemental susceptibility instead of ele drain? sustain?
Yeah just sustain, both are good though so use what you like.
in bgs I have sustain problems (high elf), even using drain T_T@@MalcolM.
What is this minimalistic CD addon? Is it stendarr, perchance?
What about Spell Strategist over Dragurkin for the Max Health build?
Draugrkin is more damage, but if you don't have it then ye spell strategist is an option, as well as clever alchemist.
Hello do you run tri Focus passive or no
nope
Do you not miss having an execute?
It's just not that good of a skill anymore. Looks cool though. You can try it out if you want, some still like it.
"You piss cheater... ESO..." had me dying lmao he got so mad
im trying out imperium wrath 3 jewelry "(2 items) Adds 129 Weapon and Spell Damage
(3 items) Adds 325 Weapon and Spell Damage to your ranged direct damage abilities" with wretched and maybe balorgs to pump out more spell damage and pen maybe vate sharan resto back bar for more recovery.
what do you think?
Vateshran resto is not worth it, it's better to backbar vitality. Imperium wrath is ok and I've tried it out as well, so if you want to make a build with that it should work.
Hey Malcom . Is this build still viable now !!! I ask this because ive been out the game for 2yrs !!! Amd im playing again !!!
welcome back !!! it is still viable, check the website linked in description, sorc page, for any updates to the build
@@MalcolM.thank you
Changing to Lightning staff Frontbar in update 39?
yeah that's about it
I Play draugrkins grip combined with rallying cry and gaze of sithis mythic this hits like a truck when you got the vateshran staff
My magsorc skills seem to take longer to fire than my other characters. I wonder if it is an animation problem with sorc or something else.
I haven't noticed, aside from the occasional shield and streak bugs where the input happens but there's a random 1s delay before casting, it's nothing consistent but it can be annoying if it's at the wrong time
@@MalcolM. I'll have some skills that have timers and show up in the status bar but had no animation. I don't even trust that they are actually applied.
How can I use 2x 5 piece sets, 1 Monster set (Head/Shoulder), 1piece Trainee and 1 Mythic? Can someone help me out please?
2x Monster set - Head/Shoulder
1x Trainee - Chest
5x set 1 - 2x Frontbar Weapons + Leg/Boot/Glove
5x set 2 - 2x Backbar Weapons + Necklace/Ring/Ring
1x Mythic - Belt
You can swap your mythic into any other body armor or jewelry slot, then move the 5 piece around, it doesn't need to be a belt. Just an example. There is a total of 14 slots. 7 armor, 3 jewelry, 2 front weapon, 2 back weapon.
just coming back after a long break from eso and a even longer break from sorc but looking hard at spinner instead of crafty for more pen and wd still sits 43k mag and 33k health on a high elf
I'm mainly PvE so I'd rather not become a vampire, can I run it just the same without vamp?
you can do this but you'll be squishier. I advise saving a vamp bite on the armory station.
the skills on the frone barkgh and the bactchkh barkgh coupled with the gearkgh make for a really good build
Hey m8! What u think about wretched vitality backbar and nmg front bar ? With fete ? Healing staff healing shield and ice shield ?
Wretched Vitality is a good set for magsorc so you can't go wrong there. I don't like nmg on magsorc because it's just for barspace but I need my sets to carry DMG, sustain or healing since magsorc toolkit is mid. Plus elemental drain gives a nice bit of extra sustain and procs wretched Vitality. I'm not sure what you mean with ice shield.
@@MalcolM. hey m8 thx for answering
I mean Hard Protect shield to shields ore Hard Protect on Front bar and healing shield on backbar .. yeah but I don’t like elemental drain in Cyro ore bgs is not so good my opinion…
Sorry my English not so good I’m German haha
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A beginner set? I have no ideas I'm cp 550 and have no mystic items or all dlc :(
Alfiq and wretched Vitality are both very accessible then. You can run the max mag build in this video with some changes: You can replace chudan by 1pc baron thirsk and 1pc swarm mother. Replace the mythic by 2nd piece trainee. Put some more attribute points in health so you get 28k+. Replace elemental drain by hurricane.
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Shew, I wish console had the bots to farm like pc does.
What u Think abou Orthers Wrath front RC back ? :/
So in other words, no changes.
So in other words, you didn't see the healthsorc changes.
it works but it's so boring omg
Do elaborate
@@MalcolM. I'm not hating or anything, it's just the gameplay meata itself, I wish I could effectively play your build like you did.
@@princeofdorne7643 well magsorc is mid right now and tankiness + sustain is very easy to come by on most other classes so makes sense
I must change my opinion after I tried it, magika one not so boring