Errors & Corrections: 1) Mawile is also a mono-steel type (the Bulbapedia list led me astray since the fairy-type was added in generation 6) 2) Regirock had blackouts in it's first playthrough because it had to lose against Wallace
Could hypothetically deplete Explosion and Self-Destruct PP against a Pokemon with the Damp ability to use Struggle, as a note. (Psyduck/Golduck/Wooper/Quagsire/Poliwag/Poliwhirl/Poliwrath/Politoed) (If this gets mentioned in the video I'll come back and edit this comment, and apologise for the obsolete comment.)
@@BloodfelX it wouldn't work. None of these Pokémon appear in the early game (especially since his issues come before the first may battle), not to mention that the only line available in emerald is psyduck, only appearing in the wild in the safari zone.
@@sup3rkidd333 Indeed, leaves it only a hypothetical solution - and I think the Regis have more moves in Heart Gold and Soul Silver so I don't think it would even be needed there, though Woopers probably appear too late in Johto as well anyhow.
@@BloodfelX HGSS and platinum are actually possible for all 3, without the need for a damp Pokémon, as all of them have stomp as a starting move. Though if they didn't have that it wouldn't be possible as the earliest encounters with a damp Pokémon would be wooper in HGSS after violet city (which has 2 required battles to make it there) and psyduck in platinum in the ravaged path (which has a few required battles to make it there on route 202). This does however mean that diamond and pearl are impossible as they only have explosion in those games to begin with.
"I need to do a bug or flying type for my next run just so I can defeat this thing easily" A Volbeat vs Illumise run would be fun if you haven't done so already.
Monkeys Paw.... oh Yanma! unfortunately not available natively in the Gen3 games (you'd need to trade for FRLG), so uhh.... Ninjask then (and yes I looked at the moveset first), YEEEES! the end of the video Beautifly vs Dustox would be another interesting challenge, given how the Wurmple evolves into one of them randomly apparently Wurmple's evolution isn't random, and that WOULD be an interesting technical deep-dive given the nature of these runs
Unfortunately, those Types are really stripped for STAB, this Gen still, so I don't think this is gonna go the way Scott hopes it will... still, those will surely be interesting (perhaps in a VS video?).
@@andreapareti324 Well, at least Volbeat is one of the few pokemon able to use signal beam. I thought for a second Illumise was as well, but after looking at its moveset... ouch.
@@KiranasOfRizon Volbeat indeed technically has the second best Bug STAB in the games up until that point... but it's Volbeat; before the Physical-Special split that made Tail Glow actually synergize with Signal Beam. And yeah, Illumise is just STAB-less, alongside also being really bad. They'll have some STAB in the form of Signal Beam or Bug Hidden Power (ouch), but my point was that they're so bad they will probably still have trouble, possibly even against the dreaded Ludicolo nemesis 😅.
You know, GiantGrantGames did that, but I'd definitely watch a series with Scott doing it. Maybe seeing which unit can complete the campaign the fastest. :P
Well done as usual, Scott! I think Regice above Registeel was a fair result since it was still a bit faster even with worse luck. The Regirock redemption arc really impressed me!
From the bottom of my heart, Scott, THANK YOU! Emerald vids are my fave and I especially love the Regis for their unsettlingly abstract designs. This was an amazingly fun and long video to watch
I watched this video over the course of a couple days and to say this had me on the edge of my seat was and is an understatement. Scott, I love your videos, and you always do such a great job, explaining and playing these games. And I think this versus video is probably my favorite between all the jokes, the comparison, and just how tight the race was. It was incredible and I am looking so forward to seeing every new video you come to post. :)
Thanks for your comment! I’m also really happy with how this one turned out. I first thought it was going to be a shorter, silly video, but it turned into something with a lot of substance.
The regis cant beat the game on their own, but what if you use all three of them at the same time? They can theoretically switch train each other to victory, but i wonder how a three pokemon run would go in this format.
I love this idea! I've been wanting to do an all-Regi run in Gen 3 and I would have just given them a second move (like Stomp). It could be neat to leave them with their base moves and have to switch train them until they learn a new move. A 3-Pokemon run would be interesting too because you're splitting the EXP 3 ways so you won't be overlevelled as quickly and TMs are not reusable, so you'll have to be careful how you distribute them.
I feel like this started out as an April Fools video about how all 3 of them are at the bottom of the Tierlist.. And then Scott tried to figure out in which order they should be in, and then genuinely tried to figure that out in the most scientific way possible - which ended up in a solo challenge for all the mons with the least intrusive change possible I don't know if this is right, but I love it already .Back to actually watching the video :)
The dedication you have to these videos is very impressive. The fact that you looked at three Pokemon who could not solo a game and said "but how can I rank them within the impossible tier" is amazing. I probably would have considered a universe in which the Regis start with their respective weak STAB moves, or even have them start with Stomp like they do in later generations, but the solution you used was way funnier. I noticed you using early Rare Candies, which I think is really good and will drastically improve your Emerald play by considering which Pokemon need them and when. One thing I'd consider doing differently with the solos is I'd have made Marshtomp the rival for Regirock instead of Grovyle just because it resists Rock moves. It especially would've made the second fight harder and maybe would have required training for Secret Power. Very very good video! I'm excited for more Emerald VS videos!
I'm SO excited for this starcraft channel WHAT Honestly what initially got me into this channel years ago was my love for Pokemon/challenge runs.. but also that I never played gen 1 more than a little, and really didn't have much deep knowledge in it. Your super through/rigorous breakdowns with these solo runs was the perfect infodump wonder for me I've loved watching you go into games I know better, and refine your layout and gameplay with time. But losing that magic as you've moved to more familiar gens left me less engaged recently, in all honesty. I've barely ever played StarCraft, and know absolutely nothing. That taste in the intro really recaptured that magic again for me! I'm so excited for this new channel, honestly.
I was really surprised about the starcraft intro. Normally I never knew anyone to really talk about that game unless they were in the community. Thanks for reminding me of that game, I spent years of my childhood playing it and it really brought me back
Ahhh I got to this video late, the Starcraft love always makes me happy, we should play someday! I'll send a message about the new channel as I'm a major expert on BW and can definitely offer some use over the long run. I saw that Infested Terran pro play match years ago. Hahaha.
Usually I wait to comment but oh my watching that StarCraft opening has just brought me back to being 8 years old. I was the exact same as you Scott and wasn't allowed the internet so played StarCraft campaign exclusively! However I preferred the Terrans cause I always thought I'd be like the marines I instantly went and subscribed to your other channel and I am very excited. Of course I don't remember StarCraft looking such high quality compared to my cube monitor back in the day haha
1:12:28 Steven swapping into Metagross to die to Earthquake was... uh... brilliant. Poor guy tried a switch strategy and got destroyed because of it lol. Great runs. Shame Regirock wasn't able to do as good later, but that's the fate of a Rock-type in Hoenn sadly.
Great stuff. Glad these guys got a chance to compete, even if they can't officially rank well on the tier list. I am so down to watch you discuss classic StarCraft content
This came on auto play after another video and I was VERY confused at first. I legitimately would be interested in some StarCraft videos though. Even though I have never played them more than a few minutes but listening to you talk about the infested Terran actually had me wondering about it. Goes to show that literally anything can be interesting if presented well!
These runs were quite the roller coaster with all their twists and turns, and I enjoyed it a lot Great work as always Scott, your videos are the highlight of my saturdays :)
I can't watch right now so I'll leave a comment for algorithm support + a prediction. Regice will win, Registeel will start strong but will fall of a little and Regirock will lose but it's going to be close edit: this was a massive rollercoaster. I'm glad to see Rock's performance
I'd watch an Infested Terran only StarCraft run. But I also watch StarCraft challenge videos anyway. If I wasn't paying attention I would have thought this was a video from another tab I have open. Interesting solution to the Regi problem. They were never intended to be level 5. I likely would have started the run with them being level 10, but that also unbalances the rest of the tier list. Explosion if obviously useless in solo runs, it would be interesting to see how it can help in runs where you have a team.
Scott: proceeds to list and say that special/physical coverage with Regirock/Regice is completely useless. Also Scott: "So I chose a nature that lowers Speed/my best stat". Why oh why. Keep in mind I'm just at the early portion of the video, so I don't know what's gonna happen, eventual realizations and optimizations, but this isn't the first time you make... out there choices for natures, right after you express sound reasoning about the Pokémon's movepool and stats.
I have now gotten to the Regirock vs Wallace portion of the video and... yeah 😅; but hey, experimentation is interesting and making mistakes and learning from them is part of that, right? As always, I admire your approach - just *please* consider Adamant, Modest, Timid or Jolly much more often; I get that this is before the Physical-Special split, but I don't think it's usually worth it to have anything else for coverage, especially for Pokémon that are this skewed towards one kind of offense, so they will generally be more useful natures when going in blind for a Pokémon; you always have the next playthrough to make adjustments, if you feel they're really needed.
I'm only at 48:00 into the video so far, so I don't know if you end up doing this, but I wanted to comment now because I know if I wait til the end I'll forget - I wonder if Registeel could have learned Substitute from the Lilycove move tutor over Hidden Power to deal with Juan rather than just setting up Curses raw. With a Persim Berry to shake off the first Sweet Kiss, I don't think the Luvdisc could really break the sub very easily, and obviously you can just re-learn Hidden Power from the Slateport vendor. Given Luvdisc's awful attacking stats, it can't really break a substitute; the only reason it's annoying is confusion, which substitute would protect you from, leaving it as basically setup fodder. Just a thought.
Scott, you have to learn to start your special day videos further in advanced, since we all know you are a perfectionist who will do 9873 playthroughs before he is satisfied :D
Glad you went for the 3 playthroughs. Personally, I believe Registeel is the best of the three but the hardest to play optimally due to its defensive playstyle. So thanks Austin haha. But yeah great video.
Roxanne looking at the Ninjask playthrough: "That's a nice ability. Would be a shame if I viewed a particular move as speed control." Yikes. Looks like you'll be playing for misses.
Yeah, when you've got only 50 base special attack and are primarily a physical attacker, it's always best to go adamant. The nature drop to such a low stat is barely even going to affect the moves used when you do use the rare special attack for a physical attacker or vice versa. Even Regice would probably perform better overall as Modest if it can still manage to pull off Whitney at the same level. It might be worth doing various playthrough comparisons to test this, but yeah, glad to see you're learning more about natures
I would love to see explosion be an option in play throughs. I think changing it to where it is a priority move that leaves you on 1 HP so if you don't knock out you run the risk of getting ko'd next turn!
1:11:17 I love that the victory music starts playing before you "officially" won, as if you used it because you were so happy about the double-freeze luck, lol.
When I was a kid there was a strategy game I used to watch my dad play on the computer and got to play a grand total of once. All these years later I've often wondered what it was. Watching this video I really think it might have been Starcraft. Thank you so much for that tangent.
well done Scott. Great watch as usual. I was listening to the vid on 1.25 speed and it sounds much better than the regular speed. Maybe consider changing the speed to 1.25 during production. Just a thought for Scott
holy ur a starcraft guy! i was wondering if i clicked on an artosis video or something. but the rage just wasnt there. ex grandmaster here on EU! protoss :)
Dude watching finally start to figure out emerald is wonderful. It's my favorite fame and your early plays were so crap. It feels greats to see this improvement
I think Regice using the Swagger strategy can get by the Rival at a much lower level and then make up the difference in Watson's gym, saving a lot of time. I think it has the highest ceiling out of all the Regis.
That's definitely possible. Regirock can clean up it's overworld routing a lot though with an Abra that's easier to obtain than with Regice. I think those two might continue to trade results.
Rock tomb is not useless on early game regirock. It helps shore up the limited pp problem you suffer from. Sure, it drops off in use pretty quickly but call it useless is long sighted in this case.
Anyone else feel like Scott is biased against ice types? I feel like every time one of these has a good time in a versus video, he is convinced one of the other combatants can do better, and he will do repeat playthroughs until one of them beats the ice type. Give the ice type some love too!
I'll have to examine that within myself. I don't think I am bias against them. It's hard to communicate the total experience of playing a run in a video like this. Regice was DRAMATICALLY less consistent than the other two. I had to restart the run over and over. It just kept losing to the early game trainers. The other two did not play like that. I'd be happy to be proven wrong though, so if anyone wants to sit down and play these runs 3+ times like I did I'll happily review their results and do more runs myself.
And if the Ice type is good, it probably will be in Paldea. But at that point almost every type could get up to the AI professors despite the difficulty spike.
I've said this before, but I find ranking within impossible tiers kind of fascinating. There'll certainly be others for gen3 - Wurmple, the cocoons and Feebas are all obvious, as well as some mons from other gens if Scott gets round to them. However it will still be interesting to see if there's any point where the playthrough is actually impossible for any or all of those or just monumentally improbable. Either way, they're all getting further than the unmodified Regis. Then there's a separate question of whether, like with Red in JRose's gen2 Spinarak run, there are any unevolved mons with actual movesets that just don't have any way to solve Steven so also drop into the top end of the "improbable" tier. Poochyena feels a strong candidate and I could also see it happen with Azurill (decent movepool but absolutely pathetic stats) or Slakoth (lolTruant).
Yeah, there will likely end up being and improbable and impossible tier. For now ranking these three was easy, but I'll have to examine each circumstance individually as they appear in the future.
Man, that this video started with a Starcraft reference made me smile. Though I can't call Infested Terrans weak in sc2 given the problems they caused in both Wings of Liberty and Legacy of the Void. But BaneTerrans in Broodwar were always interesting units, and definitely strong; though less so with the pathing and nature of BroodWar.
A nearly 2 hour video just to find out who gets the honorable spot at the top of the Impossible tier so far, quite the video but an enjoyable watch nonetheless
Very fun video to watch, definitely one of your better ones(although, I like all of them, even the very old ones xD) Interesting to see that if the Regis at least COULD struggle, they would still all be basically B Tier, which is pretty high for mons that need to struggle up to defeat Roxanne. One thing I noticed~ I think you sometimes forget Leppa Berries exist. For any fight where PP is a big deal, Leppa berries can really help out. Would have at least prevented one reset in this video and maybe Regirock couldve beaten Roxanne earlier with a leppa berry instead of struggling or leveling up to learn curse.
Good callout, I definitely forget that the early Leppa Berries exist. In other cases I'm remembering them, but I am likely wanting to prioritize whatever I think is the best held item.
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Makes sense, it's a very niche option. Reminds me of a solo Ditto run I have once seen. An interesting leppa berry strat: Start with 0 PP on Transform+a leppa berry, one-shot the first mon with struggle, leppa activates, transform into the second mon to win the fight x)
Scott, I used to play competitive Gen 3 You NEVER EVER EVER go with a negative speed nature The only good natures are Adamant, Jolly, Modest & Timid Figure out which of those 4 a Pokémon belongs to, & play it that way
I appreciate your comment. But this is limited thinking that doesn't apply when the context changes. Let me explain. In competitive your Pokemon are always going to be the same level with nearly maxed stats and ideal EVs. You also don't have a badge boost advantage over your enemy. In a play through the player gets EVs, level advantage, and badge boosts. The AI does not. Lowering speed can preserve your non-dominant attacking stat for specific moments. Having a higher attack with a special attacking mon can for example speed up early fights where that mon has to rely on tackle. Lowering total turns in battle by having a higher damage output reduces time. Also, defensive stats tend to be less important in solo runs because you know where you'll take damage against a set of fix enemy mons. As a result of this these natures tend to be the first options to consider: Rash, Naughty, then: Adamant, Modest If the Pokemon is extremely fast then considering speed lowering natures is better. I've recently learned that the base speed threshold is around 55-65 base speed. If you are above this a speed lower nature can be taken while still managing to outspeed the majority of targets in the run. The exceptions are Drake's Flygon (124) and Salamance (136), and Steven's Claydol (140). The fact of the matter is that solo running is fundamentally different from competitive play. Speed lowering natures can give a mon more flexibility with it's moves, especially when 1 mon has to solve a particularly different threat (or multiple) with constained moveset options.
Gonna really love to watch these emerald ranking vids while making my emerald romhack lol. It's seriously impressive how knowledgeable you are Scott, I've been binging your content since december and have loved all of it!
I love the regis!!!! They are my favorite legendary trio ever made. I'd love to see an actual regi of every type! I know there are YT videos of fan made ones but I'd love a game with a regi of every type
Just a thought if you ever do this video again. Setting explosion to always have 0 PP would make sense because you can't win after an explosion, so it's like a null space in the moves until it can be replaced.
Just starting the video and rooting for Registeel. My all-time favorite regi. ^^ Also, you should do the Regis again but in Platinum. They don't start with just explosion in there so it won't be impossible. :)
I still love the implication that the video is only going to be six minutes long. Like it’s a Scott video, so of course it’s going to be nearly two hours, but like, I guess I’ll describe the feeling: it’s like when you were making the video, you knew your audience was going to be thinking “oh, come on, Scott, do you really think that I’m gonna believe you didn’t record full playthroughs with all of these Pokémon?” It’s just such a good reflection of your style and personality I think.
I've also always felt the Regis were pretty emblematic of their Types! Granted, Regice is indeed slow, which is not ideal, for an Ice Type... but many of them are slow anyway; in that sense, I guess Regice is the quintessential Ice Type Pokémon, rather than incorporating well the Type itself and its strengths.
If anything, Weavile seems like the representative of Ice-type’s strengths: Ice forms the backbone of a lot of good dual STAB, so pair Ice offensively with utility or hard-hitting moves on a sweeper Pokémon and you are good.
@@iantaakalla8180 Weavile is indeed more fit for what Ice tends to be effective at as a Type; unfortunately, they don't tend to make many of those (probably because they know how strong the Type is offensively, but still).
Yo scott i was thinking about your rule in pokemon crystal of how you have coded in the game that morty treats your party as a single mon and doesnt spam mean look shouldnt the same rule be applied when mightyena roars you ???
Errors & Corrections:
1) Mawile is also a mono-steel type (the Bulbapedia list led me astray since the fairy-type was added in generation 6)
2) Regirock had blackouts in it's first playthrough because it had to lose against Wallace
Could hypothetically deplete Explosion and Self-Destruct PP against a Pokemon with the Damp ability to use Struggle, as a note. (Psyduck/Golduck/Wooper/Quagsire/Poliwag/Poliwhirl/Poliwrath/Politoed)
(If this gets mentioned in the video I'll come back and edit this comment, and apologise for the obsolete comment.)
@@BloodfelX it wouldn't work. None of these Pokémon appear in the early game (especially since his issues come before the first may battle), not to mention that the only line available in emerald is psyduck, only appearing in the wild in the safari zone.
@@sup3rkidd333 Indeed, leaves it only a hypothetical solution - and I think the Regis have more moves in Heart Gold and Soul Silver so I don't think it would even be needed there, though Woopers probably appear too late in Johto as well anyhow.
@@BloodfelX HGSS and platinum are actually possible for all 3, without the need for a damp Pokémon, as all of them have stomp as a starting move. Though if they didn't have that it wouldn't be possible as the earliest encounters with a damp Pokémon would be wooper in HGSS after violet city (which has 2 required battles to make it there) and psyduck in platinum in the ravaged path (which has a few required battles to make it there on route 202). This does however mean that diamond and pearl are impossible as they only have explosion in those games to begin with.
I wonder if you tried Sunny Day with Regirock to make Wallace easier.
"So I remind Registeel how to use Amnesia" is such a bizarre sentence even in context.
alzheimers registeel
I think it’s my favourite line in the video.
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Not the power of curse?
I mean, it would be much easier to deal with Dementia if they just forget to forget
'The impossible tier needs to be properly sorted'
And that's the kind of data I'm here for, Scott.
Weird how much Pokemon content there is in this Star Craft video
the greatest April's Fools prank Scott ever pulled was not evern posting on Aprilv1st
"I need to do a bug or flying type for my next run just so I can defeat this thing easily"
A Volbeat vs Illumise run would be fun if you haven't done so already.
Monkeys Paw.... oh Yanma!
unfortunately not available natively in the Gen3 games (you'd need to trade for FRLG),
so uhh.... Ninjask then (and yes I looked at the moveset first),
YEEEES! the end of the video
Beautifly vs Dustox would be another interesting challenge, given how the Wurmple evolves into one of them randomly
apparently Wurmple's evolution isn't random, and that WOULD be an interesting technical deep-dive given the nature of these runs
Unfortunately, those Types are really stripped for STAB, this Gen still, so I don't think this is gonna go the way Scott hopes it will... still, those will surely be interesting (perhaps in a VS video?).
@@andreapareti324 Well, at least Volbeat is one of the few pokemon able to use signal beam. I thought for a second Illumise was as well, but after looking at its moveset... ouch.
@@KiranasOfRizon Volbeat indeed technically has the second best Bug STAB in the games up until that point... but it's Volbeat; before the Physical-Special split that made Tail Glow actually synergize with Signal Beam.
And yeah, Illumise is just STAB-less, alongside also being really bad.
They'll have some STAB in the form of Signal Beam or Bug Hidden Power (ouch), but my point was that they're so bad they will probably still have trouble, possibly even against the dreaded Ludicolo nemesis 😅.
Loving the absolute villain arc that Ludicolo is having recently
He's lovin it too! I mean look at em!
Ludicolo is on his Villain era 💅💅 and I'm all here for it!
1st and only mono-steel type until generation 5? "sobs in Mawile"
As the number one Mawile enjoyer, I am very personally offended.
this saddened me as well
Honestly thought mawile was steel/dark for the longest time
@@slayersam1no it hasn't, its always been just Steel until gen 6
@dustindean4618 oh I'm well aware just how I thought it was for the longest time
Can't wait for Scott's spinoff series, "Scott's Thoughts - Starcraft - Solo Zergling."
You know, GiantGrantGames did that, but I'd definitely watch a series with Scott doing it.
Maybe seeing which unit can complete the campaign the fastest. :P
Well done as usual, Scott!
I think Regice above Registeel was a fair result since it was still a bit faster even with worse luck. The Regirock redemption arc really impressed me!
From the bottom of my heart, Scott, THANK YOU! Emerald vids are my fave and I especially love the Regis for their unsettlingly abstract designs. This was an amazingly fun and long video to watch
I watched this video over the course of a couple days and to say this had me on the edge of my seat was and is an understatement. Scott, I love your videos, and you always do such a great job, explaining and playing these games. And I think this versus video is probably my favorite between all the jokes, the comparison, and just how tight the race was. It was incredible and I am looking so forward to seeing every new video you come to post. :)
Thanks for your comment! I’m also really happy with how this one turned out. I first thought it was going to be a shorter, silly video, but it turned into something with a lot of substance.
The regis cant beat the game on their own, but what if you use all three of them at the same time? They can theoretically switch train each other to victory, but i wonder how a three pokemon run would go in this format.
Could do a gen 4 run and pit legendary trios against each other and rank that. Birds vs beasts vs golems vs sprites
I love this idea!
I've been wanting to do an all-Regi run in Gen 3 and I would have just given them a second move (like Stomp). It could be neat to leave them with their base moves and have to switch train them until they learn a new move.
A 3-Pokemon run would be interesting too because you're splitting the EXP 3 ways so you won't be overlevelled as quickly and TMs are not reusable, so you'll have to be careful how you distribute them.
I feel like this started out as an April Fools video about how all 3 of them are at the bottom of the Tierlist.. And then Scott tried to figure out in which order they should be in, and then genuinely tried to figure that out in the most scientific way possible - which ended up in a solo challenge for all the mons with the least intrusive change possible
I don't know if this is right, but I love it already .Back to actually watching the video :)
Regice my beloved you did so well. Regirock you improved so much I’m so proud of you. Godspeed Registeel you deserve the world.
The dedication you have to these videos is very impressive. The fact that you looked at three Pokemon who could not solo a game and said "but how can I rank them within the impossible tier" is amazing. I probably would have considered a universe in which the Regis start with their respective weak STAB moves, or even have them start with Stomp like they do in later generations, but the solution you used was way funnier. I noticed you using early Rare Candies, which I think is really good and will drastically improve your Emerald play by considering which Pokemon need them and when. One thing I'd consider doing differently with the solos is I'd have made Marshtomp the rival for Regirock instead of Grovyle just because it resists Rock moves. It especially would've made the second fight harder and maybe would have required training for Secret Power. Very very good video! I'm excited for more Emerald VS videos!
I’m sure this one is gonna be a blast.
wow, that is such a great idea for ranking the impossible ones, and also making a fun video about them! one of my favorites, for sure.
Never saw such a high amount of resets for a legendary run. What a Regiscam
i really thought the april fool’s joke was that the entire video was actually a starcraft video 😭
I'm SO excited for this starcraft channel WHAT
Honestly what initially got me into this channel years ago was my love for Pokemon/challenge runs.. but also that I never played gen 1 more than a little, and really didn't have much deep knowledge in it. Your super through/rigorous breakdowns with these solo runs was the perfect infodump wonder for me
I've loved watching you go into games I know better, and refine your layout and gameplay with time. But losing that magic as you've moved to more familiar gens left me less engaged recently, in all honesty.
I've barely ever played StarCraft, and know absolutely nothing. That taste in the intro really recaptured that magic again for me! I'm so excited for this new channel, honestly.
I was really surprised about the starcraft intro. Normally I never knew anyone to really talk about that game unless they were in the community. Thanks for reminding me of that game, I spent years of my childhood playing it and it really brought me back
"Registeel is the only mono-steel type until Gen V."
Mawile: "Am I a joke to you?"
Yes, Mawile, you are.
Got cool as a Mega. No one knew its name prior.
Was. *Was* a joke.
Once ZA comes out Huge Power Mega Mawile is going to prove you wrong
Still, it is a joke as a Steel-type. So yes, Registeel is the only mono-Steel-type to be worth noting on an overview of Pokémon Emerald.
Ahhh I got to this video late, the Starcraft love always makes me happy, we should play someday! I'll send a message about the new channel as I'm a major expert on BW and can definitely offer some use over the long run.
I saw that Infested Terran pro play match years ago.
Hahaha.
Usually I wait to comment but oh my watching that StarCraft opening has just brought me back to being 8 years old. I was the exact same as you Scott and wasn't allowed the internet so played StarCraft campaign exclusively! However I preferred the Terrans cause I always thought I'd be like the marines I instantly went and subscribed to your other channel and I am very excited. Of course I don't remember StarCraft looking such high quality compared to my cube monitor back in the day haha
They released a fantastic remaster of the game a few years back. It feels very faithful in style but dramatically improves the visuals.
1:12:28 Steven swapping into Metagross to die to Earthquake was... uh... brilliant. Poor guy tried a switch strategy and got destroyed because of it lol. Great runs. Shame Regirock wasn't able to do as good later, but that's the fate of a Rock-type in Hoenn sadly.
Great stuff. Glad these guys got a chance to compete, even if they can't officially rank well on the tier list. I am so down to watch you discuss classic StarCraft content
You could have named them crash boom! bang! 8<
Also that intro segue is one of the best I’ve seen, stellar work all around
This came on auto play after another video and I was VERY confused at first.
I legitimately would be interested in some StarCraft videos though. Even though I have never played them more than a few minutes but listening to you talk about the infested Terran actually had me wondering about it. Goes to show that literally anything can be interesting if presented well!
Dang, this is one trio of pokemon where they actually feel like they're on level playing field in a solo run!
Hearing that you’re a former competitive sc2 player makes so much sense for your analytical content! Really enjoying this one thanks man
Yeah - optimizing build orders translates well into optimizing solo challenges.
These runs were quite the roller coaster with all their twists and turns, and I enjoyed it a lot
Great work as always Scott, your videos are the highlight of my saturdays :)
Thank you for taking the time to do extra playthroughs was definitely worth the video being a little late
I can't watch right now so I'll leave a comment for algorithm support + a prediction.
Regice will win, Registeel will start strong but will fall of a little and Regirock will lose but it's going to be close
edit: this was a massive rollercoaster. I'm glad to see Rock's performance
Never that I thought i would be happy to see who is best in the impossible tier xD love it scott❤ gonna watch now bye
Love the intro. I used to play Starcraft as a kid. ♥️ One of the best games I've played.
Once again we all condone your incredible patience and determination, also love that you love Registeel, it has always been my favourite as a kid!
I always watch your videos or listen to them like podcasts. Best pokemon channel on UA-cam and that is saying something. Greetings from Germany
Emerald backport Regieleki, Regidrago and Regigigas, maybe? Rank the entire family in a single game!
I'd watch an Infested Terran only StarCraft run. But I also watch StarCraft challenge videos anyway. If I wasn't paying attention I would have thought this was a video from another tab I have open. Interesting solution to the Regi problem. They were never intended to be level 5. I likely would have started the run with them being level 10, but that also unbalances the rest of the tier list. Explosion if obviously useless in solo runs, it would be interesting to see how it can help in runs where you have a team.
Scott: proceeds to list and say that special/physical coverage with Regirock/Regice is completely useless.
Also Scott: "So I chose a nature that lowers Speed/my best stat".
Why oh why.
Keep in mind I'm just at the early portion of the video, so I don't know what's gonna happen, eventual realizations and optimizations, but this isn't the first time you make... out there choices for natures, right after you express sound reasoning about the Pokémon's movepool and stats.
I have now gotten to the Regirock vs Wallace portion of the video and... yeah 😅; but hey, experimentation is interesting and making mistakes and learning from them is part of that, right?
As always, I admire your approach - just *please* consider Adamant, Modest, Timid or Jolly much more often; I get that this is before the Physical-Special split, but I don't think it's usually worth it to have anything else for coverage, especially for Pokémon that are this skewed towards one kind of offense, so they will generally be more useful natures when going in blind for a Pokémon; you always have the next playthrough to make adjustments, if you feel they're really needed.
I'm only at 48:00 into the video so far, so I don't know if you end up doing this, but I wanted to comment now because I know if I wait til the end I'll forget - I wonder if Registeel could have learned Substitute from the Lilycove move tutor over Hidden Power to deal with Juan rather than just setting up Curses raw. With a Persim Berry to shake off the first Sweet Kiss, I don't think the Luvdisc could really break the sub very easily, and obviously you can just re-learn Hidden Power from the Slateport vendor. Given Luvdisc's awful attacking stats, it can't really break a substitute; the only reason it's annoying is confusion, which substitute would protect you from, leaving it as basically setup fodder. Just a thought.
That whole Starcraft tangent got me rolling. Keep up the good vids
Scott, you have to learn to start your special day videos further in advanced, since we all know you are a perfectionist who will do 9873 playthroughs before he is satisfied :D
Funny story. I've been thinking that for like 2 years :P
I love StarCraft bro, looking forward to StarCraft challenges
So excited for the starcraft stuff i did that so much as a kid cant wait for lurrkers reveres and dark templar
Zerg has always been my favorite
Glad you went for the 3 playthroughs. Personally, I believe Registeel is the best of the three but the hardest to play optimally due to its defensive playstyle. So thanks Austin haha. But yeah great video.
Roxanne looking at the Ninjask playthrough: "That's a nice ability. Would be a shame if I viewed a particular move as speed control."
Yikes. Looks like you'll be playing for misses.
I thought we'd get 3 separate videos for this. Amazing!
Yeah, when you've got only 50 base special attack and are primarily a physical attacker, it's always best to go adamant. The nature drop to such a low stat is barely even going to affect the moves used when you do use the rare special attack for a physical attacker or vice versa. Even Regice would probably perform better overall as Modest if it can still manage to pull off Whitney at the same level. It might be worth doing various playthrough comparisons to test this, but yeah, glad to see you're learning more about natures
Lol, when you call Flannery Whitney cause you're traumatized from gen 2 and talking about a tough female gym leader 😂
I would love to see explosion be an option in play throughs. I think changing it to where it is a priority move that leaves you on 1 HP so if you don't knock out you run the risk of getting ko'd next turn!
1:11:17 I love that the victory music starts playing before you "officially" won, as if you used it because you were so happy about the double-freeze luck, lol.
As soon as you said you had high hopes for Regirock I laughed. 7/10 too much water.
As someone who has never seen a starcraft game that intro made me instantly subscribe to the starcraft channel
When I was a kid there was a strategy game I used to watch my dad play on the computer and got to play a grand total of once. All these years later I've often wondered what it was. Watching this video I really think it might have been Starcraft. Thank you so much for that tangent.
The way regirock looks in the thumbnail looks like a dude wearing a flat billed cap, and i cant unsee it
Love the nice StarCraft treat before the actual video!
This will completely make my mind explode
I tend to watch your vids while i'm grinding on wow, hearing you talk about a blizzard game was a treat lol
well done Scott. Great watch as usual. I was listening to the vid on 1.25 speed and it sounds much better than the regular speed. Maybe consider changing the speed to 1.25 during production. Just a thought for Scott
Speed controls on UA-cam are there if you want to speed it up. It would be awkward to alter my voice in post-production like that.
holy ur a starcraft guy! i was wondering if i clicked on an artosis video or something.
but the rage just wasnt there.
ex grandmaster here on EU! protoss :)
Brethren! NA GM Protoss here. That was back in 2014-2015 though. I'm much worse now and mostly just have fun playing Protoss at C-B rank in BW.
Also, low GM. At least I could beat Avilo consistently ;)
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon what was your nickname? i should recognize it. mine was / is DiaBoLuS, but i was on EU. F avilo :D
Dude watching finally start to figure out emerald is wonderful. It's my favorite fame and your early plays were so crap. It feels greats to see this improvement
Thank you scotthew for this feature film
I think Regice using the Swagger strategy can get by the Rival at a much lower level and then make up the difference in Watson's gym, saving a lot of time. I think it has the highest ceiling out of all the Regis.
That's definitely possible. Regirock can clean up it's overworld routing a lot though with an Abra that's easier to obtain than with Regice. I think those two might continue to trade results.
I do not care about starcraft but its you so ill watch it anyway
Love all of your videos, so entertaining. I'd love to see someday a HG/SS Horsea line (including Kingdra) solo run!
Regice gets Bolt-Beam!? That's some great coverage.
I love this video so much! I did not expect something like this from you and I couldn't be more happy and proud ❤🎉😊
"I remind registeel how to use amnesia" made me laugh more than I thought it would 😂
I hope you´re playing Zangoose somewhat in the future. It´s my absolute favorite and I think he could pull off some unexpected time =)
It would be really funny if you introduced your mawile playthrough as the only mono steel type
Rock tomb is not useless on early game regirock. It helps shore up the limited pp problem you suffer from. Sure, it drops off in use pretty quickly but call it useless is long sighted in this case.
Slightly better than useless
Anyone else feel like Scott is biased against ice types? I feel like every time one of these has a good time in a versus video, he is convinced one of the other combatants can do better, and he will do repeat playthroughs until one of them beats the ice type. Give the ice type some love too!
I'll have to examine that within myself. I don't think I am bias against them. It's hard to communicate the total experience of playing a run in a video like this. Regice was DRAMATICALLY less consistent than the other two. I had to restart the run over and over. It just kept losing to the early game trainers. The other two did not play like that. I'd be happy to be proven wrong though, so if anyone wants to sit down and play these runs 3+ times like I did I'll happily review their results and do more runs myself.
Ice type is infamously bad though. They are Game Freak's red-headed stepchild.
And if the Ice type is good, it probably will be in Paldea. But at that point almost every type could get up to the AI professors despite the difficulty spike.
Only scott would put this much effort into an april fools videos and thats why we love him.
I've said this before, but I find ranking within impossible tiers kind of fascinating. There'll certainly be others for gen3 - Wurmple, the cocoons and Feebas are all obvious, as well as some mons from other gens if Scott gets round to them. However it will still be interesting to see if there's any point where the playthrough is actually impossible for any or all of those or just monumentally improbable. Either way, they're all getting further than the unmodified Regis.
Then there's a separate question of whether, like with Red in JRose's gen2 Spinarak run, there are any unevolved mons with actual movesets that just don't have any way to solve Steven so also drop into the top end of the "improbable" tier. Poochyena feels a strong candidate and I could also see it happen with Azurill (decent movepool but absolutely pathetic stats) or Slakoth (lolTruant).
Yeah, there will likely end up being and improbable and impossible tier. For now ranking these three was easy, but I'll have to examine each circumstance individually as they appear in the future.
Man, that this video started with a Starcraft reference made me smile. Though I can't call Infested Terrans weak in sc2 given the problems they caused in both Wings of Liberty and Legacy of the Void. But BaneTerrans in Broodwar were always interesting units, and definitely strong; though less so with the pathing and nature of BroodWar.
We all know the truest april fools prank would be you saying you're only going to do one playthrough in a video.
Scott... you are so speaking to my childhood it's scary!
Super psyched to see you talk about Starcraft!
A nearly 2 hour video just to find out who gets the honorable spot at the top of the Impossible tier so far, quite the video but an enjoyable watch nonetheless
Very fun video to watch, definitely one of your better ones(although, I like all of them, even the very old ones xD)
Interesting to see that if the Regis at least COULD struggle, they would still all be basically B Tier, which is pretty high for mons that need to struggle up to defeat Roxanne.
One thing I noticed~ I think you sometimes forget Leppa Berries exist. For any fight where PP is a big deal, Leppa berries can really help out. Would have at least prevented one reset in this video and maybe Regirock couldve beaten Roxanne earlier with a leppa berry instead of struggling or leveling up to learn curse.
Good callout, I definitely forget that the early Leppa Berries exist. In other cases I'm remembering them, but I am likely wanting to prioritize whatever I think is the best held item.
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Makes sense, it's a very niche option.
Reminds me of a solo Ditto run I have once seen. An interesting leppa berry strat: Start with 0 PP on Transform+a leppa berry, one-shot the first mon with struggle, leppa activates, transform into the second mon to win the fight x)
A second channel to listen to Scott talk about things on? SIGN ME UP my guy
Scott,
I used to play competitive Gen 3
You NEVER EVER EVER go with a negative speed nature
The only good natures are Adamant, Jolly, Modest & Timid
Figure out which of those 4 a Pokémon belongs to, & play it that way
I appreciate your comment. But this is limited thinking that doesn't apply when the context changes. Let me explain.
In competitive your Pokemon are always going to be the same level with nearly maxed stats and ideal EVs. You also don't have a badge boost advantage over your enemy. In a play through the player gets EVs, level advantage, and badge boosts. The AI does not. Lowering speed can preserve your non-dominant attacking stat for specific moments.
Having a higher attack with a special attacking mon can for example speed up early fights where that mon has to rely on tackle. Lowering total turns in battle by having a higher damage output reduces time.
Also, defensive stats tend to be less important in solo runs because you know where you'll take damage against a set of fix enemy mons.
As a result of this these natures tend to be the first options to consider:
Rash, Naughty, then: Adamant, Modest
If the Pokemon is extremely fast then considering speed lowering natures is better. I've recently learned that the base speed threshold is around 55-65 base speed. If you are above this a speed lower nature can be taken while still managing to outspeed the majority of targets in the run. The exceptions are Drake's Flygon (124) and Salamance (136), and Steven's Claydol (140).
The fact of the matter is that solo running is fundamentally different from competitive play. Speed lowering natures can give a mon more flexibility with it's moves, especially when 1 mon has to solve a particularly different threat (or multiple) with constained moveset options.
Gonna really love to watch these emerald ranking vids while making my emerald romhack lol.
It's seriously impressive how knowledgeable you are Scott, I've been binging your content since december and have loved all of it!
I’m glad my stuff is binge worthy!
Oh man, I forgot Vigoroth vs Slaking technically wasn't a vs, since it was two videos.
Kudos on the first Emerald vs video!
I love the regis!!!! They are my favorite legendary trio ever made. I'd love to see an actual regi of every type! I know there are YT videos of fan made ones but I'd love a game with a regi of every type
Just a thought if you ever do this video again. Setting explosion to always have 0 PP would make sense because you can't win after an explosion, so it's like a null space in the moves until it can be replaced.
I love what u did with the hi for this video going to watch more after this video u earn my sub
I still play brood war regularly. This is the least expected crossover I've ever experienced. gl on your second channel
Just starting the video and rooting for Registeel. My all-time favorite regi. ^^
Also, you should do the Regis again but in Platinum. They don't start with just explosion in there so it won't be impossible. :)
Ah yes, I too appreciate the simplicity of a Pokémon that sounds like a transformer and sticks its right arm to the sky.
I love the thumbnail artwork! ❤️
Brian is KILLING it with these!
1:05:03 It feels so poetic that when Regirock powers through like a trooper with 1 hp remaining, Ludicolo comes in with 1 more point of speed.
I was always sort of sad that the Regis start with Explosion, but I should've known you'd still take their runs so seriously. Love it.
I still love the implication that the video is only going to be six minutes long. Like it’s a Scott video, so of course it’s going to be nearly two hours, but like, I guess I’ll describe the feeling: it’s like when you were making the video, you knew your audience was going to be thinking “oh, come on, Scott, do you really think that I’m gonna believe you didn’t record full playthroughs with all of these Pokémon?” It’s just such a good reflection of your style and personality I think.
infested terran only run O.O so excited
I've also always felt the Regis were pretty emblematic of their Types! Granted, Regice is indeed slow, which is not ideal, for an Ice Type... but many of them are slow anyway; in that sense, I guess Regice is the quintessential Ice Type Pokémon, rather than incorporating well the Type itself and its strengths.
If anything, Weavile seems like the representative of Ice-type’s strengths: Ice forms the backbone of a lot of good dual STAB, so pair Ice offensively with utility or hard-hitting moves on a sweeper Pokémon and you are good.
@@iantaakalla8180 Weavile is indeed more fit for what Ice tends to be effective at as a Type; unfortunately, they don't tend to make many of those (probably because they know how strong the Type is offensively, but still).
All this for an impossible
Now that's dedication
Yo scott i was thinking about your rule in pokemon crystal of how you have coded in the game that morty treats your party as a single mon and doesnt spam mean look shouldnt the same rule be applied when mightyena roars you ???
Crazy results! Great job on the playthroughs!!