Dr Ishtiaq Ahmed ji - India started with Twin Gandhian Principles of Truth and Non Violence . But immediately thereafter, Pakistan attacked and took away a part of Kashmir. Gandhian India, instead of throwing the Invaders out , chose the peaceful method of 'dispute' resolution through just constituted United Nation. Since then the status quo continued. But this encouraged our other neighbour ,China who thought ,India is weak, and Kashmir is available for a grab and attacked and took away another part of Kashmir. Encouraged by this, now Pakistan once again attacked , the perceived weakened India and attacked in Kashmir in 1965. But by now ,Gandhian India had lost her innocence and gave a bloody nose to Pakistan by opening International Border at Lahore. China again got encouraged by this Pakistan action and attacked India in 1967 and got a severe beating at Nathu LA. Their casualties were 400 against our 40 martyred. Later when opportunity came, India bifurcated Pakistan and created Bangladesh. After that Pakistan has since continued a low coat,low risk with deniabilty , a war with cross border terrorism. Every peace offer by India has been responded by Terrorism. India has now started the policy of Defensive Offence. No more appeasement. Tell us what is India's fault in continuation of these hostilities ?
But the Professor is sponsored, supported and surrounded by Nehruvian SICKularists as he travels through Bharat so you can only expect this fake narrative.
In all his 3 books he points out role of Muslim League who sacrificed millions of innocent lives for safeguarding their lands, jagirs, jealousy for not being at higher position in British administration and most importantly scared of not being called the ruler class of India. Now even after 75 years they’re unable to get over India hatred, forced conversions imposing wars and radicalization of society. Pakistani society doesn’t opened a mouth when Nobel laureate Dr.Abdul Salam was thrown out of country and declared non Muslim. So what can one Ishtiaq Ahmed can do 😂 Our Indian people should get out of this mentality of self destruction by expecting peace from Pakistan and it’s people. Nehru and Gandhi did that blunder, then Shastri, Indira Rajiv, to Vajpayee and Modi tried what we got in return is hatred and the more surprising part is they’re unapologetic about it. Indian so called enlightened class should get out of this dilemma that by being nice and calling peace you will achieve anything History is shouting at you to not repeat your ancestors mistakes 😢but seems like our people are not willing to learn anything from past
He praises Mohamm Bin Qasim, justifies Jazia, praises invaders, gives credit of indias progress and education to madrassa chap Abdul Kalam Azad who was instrumental to distorting history books and allowing proliferation of madrassas. Our educated ignorant people are lapping it up. Tired of appeasement by "Kafir's", who are worst of beings in their asmani kitab!
Yes. I have been following his vitriolic writings in pak newspapers over the last 20 years plus his vlogs in last few years. He has openly written against both Hindus and Hinduism … written that is blessed that his forefathers converted from Hinduism to Islam… never ONCE will he ever say a word in praise for Hindus except obliquely refer to Nehru and Gandhi and maulana azad as making Hindus into modern etc. vile man to the core
@@dustydrives Country was divided in the name of kalma (islam), but kafir-mushrik majority country is doing well after 75 years, kalma 98% muslims country is sinking. Failure of Pak will be failure of his deen islam! This old momin cannot accept this. He also knows without better relations with Mushrik India, Pak economy will not improve. So he is working hard to save his 'mulk' based on his deen. “The militant Muslim is the person who beheads the infidel, while the moderate Muslim holds the feet of the victim." - Marco Polo When the situation arises, people such as him will hold our feet with joy.
@@dustydrives Where was Dr Ahmed before 15,20,25 years ago? Are there any articles written by him on the Pakistani establishments - political as well as army - criticising them of terrorist activities against India, atrocities committed against Hindu minorities and decimating them in Pakistan. Where was he? Champion of peace? I just don’t understand why Indian’s are so awe of him. Believing him in what he propagates is like living in a fool’s paradise. Dr Ahmed is a hypocrite to the core.
@@dustydriveswell he indeed praised Hindus as secular by nature in one of his videos but he shy aways saying this everywhere. After all he has Pakistani blood so hindu hate will always be there. He is biased towards Hindus and knows that Moslems created chaos before partition. But this man will always stand for his failed Pakistan.
@33:46 Dr. Sahab seems to be saying that the Prophet had a way and played with words. Earlier he said that Jinnah too was a master of argumentation and rhetoric and messaging flexibility. Looks like the Qaid and the Prophet had common ways.
What was the cause a communal jinnah started to call Hindu congress while congress was throughout secular in character with intention to serve all indian irrespective of caste or creed.
See Ishtiaq Ahmed knows that Hindus never had any issues with Moslems living with them in independent India. It was Moslems who started violence and asked for Paxtan. Ishtiaq Ahmed still has pakistani blood so he'll never be unbiased. He calls today's India as majoritarianism which is actually opposing jihad violence.
Dr. Ishtiaq Ahmed tries misleading false equivalence by comparing Jinnah and Savarkar. In pre independence India, Savarkar and Hindu Maha Sabha were not supported by most of the Hindus. More than 90% of Hindus and Congress did not support the partition of India. In contrast, partition by Jinnah and Muslim League was supported by 90% of Muslims. With all due respects, false equivalence is not right and won't befool many.
Pakistan is singing different tune now just because it's on the verge of the bankruptcy, we will wait and see when it and if improve its economical situation,what tune it sings. And then we will see and react accordingly. Till then maintain the status quo, ignorance is the bliss
Dr. Saab, what is missing in understanding is, whether the fear of some one attack me is a circumstantial or pre determined ? i say pre determined ? i say same phylosophy or ideology that attacked and destroyed India by invaders since 1000 years. Second comment is you mentioned by end of Moguls rule only 20% of Indians converted, so not a big deal, thats is not small number but my point is, Invaders already destroyed enough Hindu and Budhist cultural icons which contributed to Indian civilization since 2000+ years, like 5-6 famous Universities, 6000 temple complexes(including most holy places Ayodya/Kashi/Mathura, Somanath), "renaming" historic places. What you are not getting is, say you have beatiful home in Stockhome, some one accidentally drive car and damages your house and house got partially destroyed. As a human you may pardon him with little fine or money settlement. You mayn't hate him. But if a white guy comes and damages your house with intention you are "Muslm", and destroy your holiest place where you do Namz because same reason. Do you settle with little money or have some self respect ? which one ? I have no issue with peace deal and i don't support anyone hate, but if you don't change the basic idealogy that pakistan operate which is based on hate you are putting other party in danger. Hope you think logically rather emotionally. So please don't worry or stop advicing about India/RSS all stern believer of Hinduism, which "thrives where every one is happy". Please take care of Pakistan or any other Islmk states, be lead the effort to make Pakistan "Secular", "Nation over Religion" friendship between India and pakistan will be 'no brainer' ! My point is please address the main problem first rather just selling your books. I still appriciate your understanding towards humanity and honest effort to achieve it. As a human many hatredness is reaction of certen actions. listed more of them. 1. Say we hear muslm prayer 5 times a day, what it says loud and clear is, "our god is only the god" how this is secular ? Hinduism teaches world is our family. 2. Who devided nation based on religion ? how muslm leage is secular as Congress RaGadhi says? 3. Just look at Kashi, which is Mecca like holy place for Hindus, where we can see Masque is built on a old temple, even kid can tell there was a temple, but hindus have to prove it. 4. See Minorities/Hindus are decimated in Pakistan, no democracy cares that why ? 5. India is the only contry where Minorities have more rights than majority. Please show me one another nation like this. 6. India is only contry since 1000 years minorities ruled ! please mention another contry . Lecturing is easy but facts doesn't lie, history doesn't lie. "If you don't learn from history you will be history". As a human we should have self respect atleast. Pakistan did so much crime like Bangla genocide, Kashmir genocide, Minorities genocide so many but was funded and protected by USA and China. Now the life support is removed so went bankrupt so eager to make peace with India. Things to be noticed is if they economically well to do again they start the criminal activities. So question for Dr. saab is how he make sure it doesn't happen again, and what is changed in terms of idealogy ? Please don't take my question as scolding or insult to anyone, but if you can put your honest comments i will be greatful. I am also learning about social fabricks.
Dr. Ishtiaq Ahmed says to Indian audience "You talk about Your history of thousands of years". Is that history not part of Ishtiaq Ahmed and other Muslims of India, who became Muslims only in the last thousand years or less?
We have no issue being secular, in fact we are secular by DNA, but when we see the activities of muslims along with communal parties, we feel threatened.
Is Pakistan need Peace if yes then what about two nation theory and Nazariya Pakistan ? we are happy without Pakistan we are not serious about this, this is compulsion of Pakistan, once Pakistan stable will go to same path they can't change hatrate policy this is Islamic fundamental Will Pakistan Why need peace today why not day from bigining, this is useless effort, and just like Aman ki Aasha as earlier
It’s ok Dr Ishtiaq Ahmed and the ones like him saying very often that both countries should have good relations with one another but what about the military and political establishments of Pakistan. Do they have the same attitude and mentality? So it is futile for Dr Ahmed just harping the same tune of having good relations. Firstly Pakistani establishments has to prove themselves that they genuinely want peace relations with India and the necessary efforts and steps it has to take to make a change. Unless this happens good relations and peace between India and Pakistan is a distant dream. Jai Hind!🇮🇳
Porkistan is currently miserably down, and hence this messenger of Porkistan pleading for aid and peace talk. This is the opportunity for us to ensure that Porkistan meets the same fate as Yugoslavia and this terrorist entity is permanently enfeebled 🛑
@@TQrfoeljU8lN8tVy1Y2ffA yes I have not read his books but I did hear him on UA-cam videos of Pakistani UA-camr’s. When he visited Pakistan earlier this year I did heard his talk on ‘The Black Hole’. I find him in his remarks about the Pakistani establishment very controlling. He doesn’t harshly comments on them of their wrong-doings. Also he pays lip service when questioned about the situation of Hindus in Pakistan but is more concerned and worried about Indian Muslims. Always harping the same tune of having good relations between India and Pakistan. He knows that fault lies mostly with Pakistan. I feel if he genuinely cares for the betterment of Pakistani society he should come back to Pakistan and try to change Pakistani mindset inside out. Giving lectures on UA-cam or visiting India and crisscrossing the whole of India and telling we Indians of having good relations between India and Pakistan is like shedding crocodile tears because the Pakistani people and the establishments - political and army - are not going to change their mindset and attitude vis-à-vis India and Dr Ahmed knows this better and I too know this by conviction that Pakistan and it’s people are impossible to believe in.
@@amitabhjoshi8957 that’s not the point, being defensive doesn’t help either. If they are of a particular level he have to act accordingly, please see their body language as well as the articulation whilst speaking, at a VC level they are expected to be better.
Doctor sahab 80% Sanatani (Hindus) rehte hain Bharat mein. Yaad rakhna yeh baat. Aap ke pair chookar aapko izzat dene waale Hindus (Sanatani) hain. Aapne jab bhi baat kari hai, aapne bola hai ki dono taraf extremists hain. Sanatana dharam mein extremism naheen sikhaya jaata hai. Duniya bhar mein musalman extremists aur terrorists hai. Aap jo bhi baat karte hain, yeh yaad rakhna ki 80% Hindus (Sanatani) hain. Aap yeh bhi yaad rakhen ki Quran mein kafir nafrat bataya gaya hai, Hadiths mein bhi Kafiron ke khilaaf nafrat sikhaya gaya hai. Madarson mein galat aur nafrat sikhaya jaata hai. Pakistan ke educational institutions mein galat history, nafrat, jihad sikhate hain. Bharat mein aisa naheen sikhate hain. Kabhi bhi Sanatanion (Hindus) ke baare mein aisi baaten matt karna. Yeh namak harami batata hai aapki. Hinduism (Sanatana Dharam) mein peace, love, inclusiveness, and education hai. Musalman unki religious teaching ke wajah se Violence shuru karte hain. Kabhi bhi Ramanavami ke din Shri Ramchandra Ji ki juloos nikalti hai, Hanuman ji ka juloos, ya Shiv ji ka juloos nikalte hain, ya durga puja ke time juloos nikalte hain to muslims chat ke oopar se pathar fainkte hain, aur kuch thookte hain, soda bottles fainkte hain....to fir response jab dete hain hindu, to fir musalman victim play karte hain, aur kehte hain ki zulm ho gaya. Doctor sahab aapko Sanatan dharam ke baare mein kuch pata naheen hai??? You were interested in mentioning and spreading narrative again and again as "dono taraf extremists" hain. It is always muslims who started violence because their religious books teach them that. You were invited, received, treated and served by hindus (sanatanis), but you do not have the intellect and courtesy to appreciate 80% sanatana dharma people. Did not expect from you such insensitivity. Please remember how Sanatanis treated you and that is due to our religious teachings and tarbiyat. Thank you for not mentioning. If in India there would have been 80% muslims what would have been the condition of India or Hindus, Sikhs, jains?? Also what if you were a hindu???? We Indians would like to know.
Jeziya Tax was intolerant and not fair. India is a civilizational sub continent wirh a long history. Why even many Pakistani intellectuals have no deep understanding of pre Islamic India?
Great speech professor 👏. The reason prof is getting so much of attention is cause Indian minds are curious to learn. Unfortunately Islam has destroyed the ability to constructively learn and question. Although prof has noble intentions he is a Swedish national & not Pakistani. His learning has been through the western education system where the emphasis is on critical thinking & then presenting fact based on your findings. I don't think in million years an Islamic Pakistan will ever become enlighten as the core education there sucks and is seeped in the concept of Riyasat-e-pudina
This man is not living in Pakistan for past 50 years ….. otherwise he had been full of hate towards Hindu & Hindustan instead of wisdom just like Pakistani 🇵🇰 awaam
If temporal and religious authorities can be separate in Islam, why most Muslim majority nations are Islamic and not Secular? Even Turkey is secular in name only.
Since Gokhale Institute of political science has its core domain cut out... would request it's faculty to conduct research on a very crucial subject.... If demographic in India change and Hindus become a minority... will India continue to be a free secular democracy???? This question is like the elephant in the room which no ao called intellectual wants to address..
I think we all know the answer; Gokhale institute like all other institutes and people in India, live in a politically correct illusory world and seek aman ki aasha, with grave consequences.
Can Dr. Ishtiaq Ahmed, or anyone, throw any light as to how none of the leaders of India and Pakistan, as also the British rulers, could foresee the possibility of the blood-bath which, unfortunately, did take place, at the time of the trans-migration of the people on either side, on partition? For, earlier, in March,1947, i.e. before partition, the muslims had massacred thousands of sikhs in Rawalpindi/Sialkot, to which the sikhs had more than retaliated in East Punjab, later. There were other killings also, like at Noakhali. Jinnah's incendiary call of 'Direct Action', was in itself such as to be the cause of an ever-spreading poison to the minds of his followers. In such bakground, was it not apparent that the miscreants could have a free-hand to do anything with the migrating people, and that their misdoing could have a rippling effect en-masse in both the communities, leading to atrocities, which did occur? Gandhi, Nehru, Patel, Moulana Azad, Jinnah, Mountbatten and all the effective persons of their kind - none could visualise the grimness of the situation? Or some did (who?), and foretold it, but it was not heeded to? Properly, some thought should have been given as to how a smooth transition could be made possible for the migrating people, taking all possible precautions, like, for example, deploying the army itself to prevent any untoward incidents ( - because the army was free at the time), arranging unarduous transportation, etc., which was not done. Why should the above persons, therefore, not be held as being truly responsible for the unthinkable misery caused to the people involved, and be calumniated, instead of being honoured by having their names immortalised in monuments, governmental institutions, currency notes, etc.? Please enlighten, if anyone can, about the details of the thinking, utterances, etc. of the above leaders/persons about how the migration was to be planned and carried out and how they failed to achieve that.
Unfortunately this asset have little to none influence in foreign policy in Pakistan. His books are more read in India than in Pakistan. It’s good to appreciate his work but it’s foolish to expect one individual or a group of Pakistani people can change anything. He’s a Swedish citizen with Turkish wife and real Pakistani society is what you see in their textbooks, on social media and TV/UA-cam reaction channels 😂
@@skamaljeetsingh8720 🙏 does anybody having with them Dr Ishtiaq Ahmed’s views about India say 10/20/30 years old in the form of print/ video or in any other way and can they share it on UA-cam so that we here in India can assess him correctly. Is his opinion about India have remained same 20/25 years ago or have they changed now due to degradation of Pakistan and the drastic progress of India over the past 3 decades. Thank you! Jai Hind! 🇮🇳
It is naive and cowardly to support the colonial BRI projects of China, which includes CPEC. Building roads and bridges is not a rocket science. It is not worth giving up national sovereignty and control just to build roads and infrastructure. India is building huge network of highways and ports at a rapid pace without any foreign involvement.
Agreed. Even the esteemed doctor favours the Mughals and is preaching to Indians about what language to use. He should go to Pakistan and educate them first!!!
Dear Ishitaq Sir, Nice to hear your kind words but I have huge disagreement with your style of thinking. First you say India has become majoritarian state without even understanding the reason. Opposing jihad violence is right of any sane community. Hindus are exactly doing that to save their lives and culture from Islamic jihad. You cant call it "majoritarianism". Secondly, Maualana Azad advocated for a distorted history to show muslim invaders as heroes and Hindus warriors and kings have been kept hidden from the masses. Third, Muslims were always against Hindu majority nation so revolted. The fault lies in Muslim community. Their way of thinking is reason for instability in middle east and south Asia for now. Europe will suffer in coming future.
You casually use the word majoritarianism and accuse Hindus of the same whereas the actual majoritarianism is seen in Pakistan even before partition the moslem majority provinces had subjugation and persecution of kaffirs including the christians who are people of the book. Opposing the jihad violence is not majoritarianism but the defence for survival.
Dr Ishtiaq Ahmed ji -
India started with Twin Gandhian Principles of Truth and Non Violence .
But immediately thereafter, Pakistan attacked and took away a part of Kashmir.
Gandhian India, instead of throwing the Invaders out , chose the peaceful method of 'dispute' resolution through just constituted United Nation.
Since then the status quo continued. But
this encouraged our other neighbour ,China who thought ,India is weak, and Kashmir is available for a grab and attacked and took away another part of Kashmir.
Encouraged by this, now Pakistan once again attacked , the perceived weakened India and attacked in Kashmir in 1965.
But by now ,Gandhian India had lost her innocence and gave a bloody nose to Pakistan by opening International Border at Lahore.
China again got encouraged by this Pakistan action and attacked India in 1967 and got a severe beating at Nathu LA.
Their casualties were 400 against our 40 martyred.
Later when opportunity came, India bifurcated Pakistan and created Bangladesh.
After that Pakistan has since continued a low coat,low risk with deniabilty , a war with cross border terrorism.
Every peace offer by India has been responded by Terrorism.
India has now started the policy of Defensive Offence.
No more appeasement.
Tell us what is India's fault in continuation of these hostilities ?
Good question. Obviously no answer.
Non Violence cannot cannot be the state policy in Security matters.
India and Pakistan are no twins,i don't agree.
And India gain it's freedom and Pakistan was born.
But the Professor is sponsored, supported and surrounded by Nehruvian SICKularists as he travels through Bharat so you can only expect this fake narrative.
In all his 3 books he points out role of Muslim League who sacrificed millions of innocent lives for safeguarding their lands, jagirs, jealousy for not being at higher position in British administration and most importantly scared of not being called the ruler class of India. Now even after 75 years they’re unable to get over India hatred, forced conversions imposing wars and radicalization of society. Pakistani society doesn’t opened a mouth when Nobel laureate Dr.Abdul Salam was thrown out of country and declared non Muslim. So what can one Ishtiaq Ahmed can do 😂 Our Indian people should get out of this mentality of self destruction by expecting peace from Pakistan and it’s people. Nehru and Gandhi did that blunder, then Shastri, Indira Rajiv, to Vajpayee and Modi tried what we got in return is hatred and the more surprising part is they’re unapologetic about it. Indian so called enlightened class should get out of this dilemma that by being nice and calling peace you will achieve anything History is shouting at you to not repeat your ancestors mistakes 😢but seems like our people are not willing to learn anything from past
He praises Mohamm Bin Qasim, justifies Jazia, praises invaders, gives credit of indias progress and education to madrassa chap Abdul Kalam Azad who was instrumental to distorting history books and allowing proliferation of madrassas. Our educated ignorant people are lapping it up. Tired of appeasement by "Kafir's", who are worst of beings in their asmani kitab!
Yes. I have been following his vitriolic writings in pak newspapers over the last 20 years plus his vlogs in last few years. He has openly written against both Hindus and Hinduism … written that is blessed that his forefathers converted from Hinduism to Islam… never ONCE will he ever say a word in praise for Hindus except obliquely refer to Nehru and Gandhi and maulana azad as making Hindus into modern etc. vile man to the core
@@dustydrives Country was divided in the name of kalma (islam), but kafir-mushrik majority country is doing well after 75 years, kalma 98% muslims country is sinking. Failure of Pak will be failure of his deen islam! This old momin cannot accept this. He also knows without better relations with Mushrik India, Pak economy will not improve. So he is working hard to save his 'mulk' based on his deen. “The militant Muslim is the person who beheads the infidel, while the moderate Muslim holds the feet of the victim."
- Marco Polo
When the situation arises, people such as him will hold our feet with joy.
@@snathan3198 yup perfectly said
@@dustydrives Where was Dr Ahmed before 15,20,25 years ago? Are there any articles written by him on the Pakistani establishments - political as well as army - criticising them of terrorist activities against India, atrocities committed against Hindu minorities and decimating them in Pakistan. Where was he? Champion of peace? I just don’t understand why Indian’s are so awe of him. Believing him in what he propagates is like living in a fool’s paradise. Dr Ahmed is a hypocrite to the core.
@@dustydriveswell he indeed praised Hindus as secular by nature in one of his videos but he shy aways saying this everywhere. After all he has Pakistani blood so hindu hate will always be there. He is biased towards Hindus and knows that Moslems created chaos before partition. But this man will always stand for his failed Pakistan.
@33:46 Dr. Sahab seems to be saying that the Prophet had a way and played with words. Earlier he said that Jinnah too was a master of argumentation and rhetoric and messaging flexibility.
Looks like the Qaid and the Prophet had common ways.
What was the cause a communal jinnah started to call Hindu congress while congress was throughout secular in character with intention to serve all indian irrespective of caste or creed.
Congress is communal today. Bhutto also called Congress communal.
See Ishtiaq Ahmed knows that Hindus never had any issues with Moslems living with them in independent India. It was Moslems who started violence and asked for Paxtan. Ishtiaq Ahmed still has pakistani blood so he'll never be unbiased. He calls today's India as majoritarianism which is actually opposing jihad violence.
Dr. Ishtiaq Ahmed tries misleading false equivalence by comparing Jinnah and Savarkar. In pre independence India, Savarkar and Hindu Maha Sabha were not supported by most of the Hindus. More than 90% of Hindus and Congress did not support the partition of India. In contrast, partition by Jinnah and Muslim League was supported by 90% of Muslims. With all due respects, false equivalence is not right and won't befool many.
Pakistan is singing different tune now just because it's on the verge of the bankruptcy, we will wait and see when it and if improve its economical situation,what tune it sings. And then we will see and react accordingly.
Till then maintain the status quo, ignorance is the bliss
Dr. Saab, what is missing in understanding is, whether the fear of some one attack me is a circumstantial or pre determined ? i say pre determined ? i say same phylosophy or ideology that attacked and destroyed India by invaders since 1000 years.
Second comment is you mentioned by end of Moguls rule only 20% of Indians converted, so not a big deal, thats is not small number but my point is, Invaders already destroyed enough Hindu and Budhist cultural icons which contributed to Indian civilization since 2000+ years, like 5-6 famous Universities, 6000 temple complexes(including most holy places Ayodya/Kashi/Mathura, Somanath), "renaming" historic places.
What you are not getting is, say you have beatiful home in Stockhome, some one accidentally drive car and damages your house and house got partially destroyed. As a human you may pardon him with little fine or money settlement. You mayn't hate him. But if a white guy comes and damages your house with intention you are "Muslm", and destroy your holiest place where you do Namz because same reason. Do you settle with little money or have some self respect ? which one ?
I have no issue with peace deal and i don't support anyone hate, but if you don't change the basic idealogy that pakistan operate which is based on hate you are putting other party in danger. Hope you think logically rather emotionally. So please don't worry or stop advicing about India/RSS all stern believer of Hinduism, which "thrives where every one is happy". Please take care of Pakistan or any other Islmk states, be lead the effort to make Pakistan "Secular", "Nation over Religion" friendship between India and pakistan will be 'no brainer' !
My point is please address the main problem first rather just selling your books. I still appriciate your understanding towards humanity and honest effort to achieve it.
As a human many hatredness is reaction of certen actions. listed more of them.
1. Say we hear muslm prayer 5 times a day, what it says loud and clear is, "our god is only the god" how this is secular ? Hinduism teaches world is our family.
2. Who devided nation based on religion ? how muslm leage is secular as Congress RaGadhi says?
3. Just look at Kashi, which is Mecca like holy place for Hindus, where we can see Masque is built on a old temple, even kid can tell there was a temple, but hindus have to prove it.
4. See Minorities/Hindus are decimated in Pakistan, no democracy cares that why ?
5. India is the only contry where Minorities have more rights than majority. Please show me one another nation like this.
6. India is only contry since 1000 years minorities ruled ! please mention another contry .
Lecturing is easy but facts doesn't lie, history doesn't lie. "If you don't learn from history you will be history". As a human we should have self respect atleast.
Pakistan did so much crime like Bangla genocide, Kashmir genocide, Minorities genocide so many but was funded and protected by USA and China. Now the life support is removed so went bankrupt so eager to make peace with India. Things to be noticed is if they economically well to do again they start the criminal activities. So question for Dr. saab is how he make sure it doesn't happen again, and what is changed in terms of idealogy ?
Please don't take my question as scolding or insult to anyone, but if you can put your honest comments i will be greatful. I am also learning about social fabricks.
Very appropriate reply to all the points Dr. Ahemad, he talks very lightly and shortly about cruelity of mualim rule and radicalization.
very well put up. I totally agree with you.
Audio quality is not good...need to improve...
Dr. Ishtiaq Ahmed says to Indian audience "You talk about Your history of thousands of years". Is that history not part of Ishtiaq Ahmed and other Muslims of India, who became Muslims only in the last thousand years or less?
He is a hypocrite after all a pakistani
We have no issue being secular, in fact we are secular by DNA, but when we see the activities of muslims along with communal parties, we feel threatened.
Is Pakistan need Peace if yes then what about two nation theory and Nazariya Pakistan ? we are happy without Pakistan we are not serious about this, this is compulsion of Pakistan, once Pakistan stable will go to same path they can't change hatrate policy this is Islamic fundamental
Will Pakistan
Why need peace today why not day from bigining, this is useless effort, and just like Aman ki Aasha as earlier
It’s ok Dr Ishtiaq Ahmed and the ones like him saying very often that both countries should have good relations with one another but what about the military and political establishments of Pakistan. Do they have the same attitude and mentality? So it is futile for Dr Ahmed just harping the same tune of having good relations. Firstly Pakistani establishments has to prove themselves that they genuinely want peace relations with India and the necessary efforts and steps it has to take to make a change. Unless this happens good relations and peace between India and Pakistan is a distant dream.
Jai Hind!🇮🇳
Porkistan is currently miserably down, and hence this messenger of Porkistan pleading for aid and peace talk. This is the opportunity for us to ensure that Porkistan meets the same fate as Yugoslavia and this terrorist entity is permanently enfeebled 🛑
@@TQrfoeljU8lN8tVy1Y2ffA yes I have not read his books but I did hear him on UA-cam videos of Pakistani UA-camr’s. When he visited Pakistan earlier this year I did heard his talk on ‘The Black Hole’. I find him in his remarks about the Pakistani establishment very controlling. He doesn’t harshly comments on them of their wrong-doings. Also he pays lip service when questioned about the situation of Hindus in Pakistan but is more concerned and worried about Indian Muslims. Always harping the same tune of having good relations between India and Pakistan. He knows that fault lies mostly with Pakistan. I feel if he genuinely cares for the betterment of Pakistani society he should come back to Pakistan and try to change Pakistani mindset inside out. Giving lectures on UA-cam or visiting India and crisscrossing the whole of India and telling we Indians of having good relations between India and Pakistan is like shedding crocodile tears because the Pakistani people and the establishments - political and army - are not going to change their mindset and attitude vis-à-vis India and Dr Ahmed knows this better and I too know this by conviction that Pakistan and it’s people are impossible to believe in.
Not same mentality…not same attitude infact just opposite
@@TQrfoeljU8lN8tVy1Y2ffA wishfull thinking is the TRUTH cz of the attitude and mentality of Pakistan
Introduction by both people was very ametuerish
An attempt by amatuers is better than no attempt by experts
@@amitabhjoshi8957 that’s not the point, being defensive doesn’t help either. If they are of a particular level he have to act accordingly, please see their body language as well as the articulation whilst speaking, at a VC level they are expected to be better.
Doctor sahab 80% Sanatani (Hindus) rehte hain Bharat mein. Yaad rakhna yeh baat. Aap ke pair chookar aapko izzat dene waale Hindus (Sanatani) hain. Aapne jab bhi baat kari hai, aapne bola hai ki dono taraf extremists hain. Sanatana dharam mein extremism naheen sikhaya jaata hai. Duniya bhar mein musalman extremists aur terrorists hai. Aap jo bhi baat karte hain, yeh yaad rakhna ki 80% Hindus (Sanatani) hain. Aap yeh bhi yaad rakhen ki Quran mein kafir nafrat bataya gaya hai, Hadiths mein bhi Kafiron ke khilaaf nafrat sikhaya gaya hai. Madarson mein galat aur nafrat sikhaya jaata hai. Pakistan ke educational institutions mein galat history, nafrat, jihad sikhate hain. Bharat mein aisa naheen sikhate hain. Kabhi bhi Sanatanion (Hindus) ke baare mein aisi baaten matt karna. Yeh namak harami batata hai aapki. Hinduism (Sanatana Dharam) mein peace, love, inclusiveness, and education hai. Musalman unki religious teaching ke wajah se Violence shuru karte hain. Kabhi bhi Ramanavami ke din Shri Ramchandra Ji ki juloos nikalti hai, Hanuman ji ka juloos, ya Shiv ji ka juloos nikalte hain, ya durga puja ke time juloos nikalte hain to muslims chat ke oopar se pathar fainkte hain, aur kuch thookte hain, soda bottles fainkte hain....to fir response jab dete hain hindu, to fir musalman victim play karte hain, aur kehte hain ki zulm ho gaya. Doctor sahab aapko Sanatan dharam ke baare mein kuch pata naheen hai??? You were interested in mentioning and spreading narrative again and again as "dono taraf extremists" hain. It is always muslims who started violence because their religious books teach them that. You were invited, received, treated and served by hindus (sanatanis), but you do not have the intellect and courtesy to appreciate 80% sanatana dharma people. Did not expect from you such insensitivity. Please remember how Sanatanis treated you and that is due to our religious teachings and tarbiyat. Thank you for not mentioning. If in India there would have been 80% muslims what would have been the condition of India or Hindus, Sikhs, jains?? Also what if you were a hindu???? We Indians would like to know.
Jeziya Tax was intolerant and not fair. India is a civilizational sub continent wirh a long history. Why even many Pakistani intellectuals have no deep understanding of pre Islamic India?
why do we need friendship with Pakistan ?
Absolutely nothing to do with Porkistan.
Great speech professor 👏. The reason prof is getting so much of attention is cause Indian minds are curious to learn. Unfortunately Islam has destroyed the ability to constructively learn and question. Although prof has noble intentions he is a Swedish national & not Pakistani. His learning has been through the western education system where the emphasis is on critical thinking & then presenting fact based on your findings. I don't think in million years an Islamic Pakistan will ever become enlighten as the core education there sucks and is seeped in the concept of Riyasat-e-pudina
This man is not living in Pakistan for past 50 years ….. otherwise he had been full of hate towards Hindu & Hindustan instead of wisdom just like Pakistani 🇵🇰 awaam
If temporal and religious authorities can be separate in Islam, why most Muslim majority nations are Islamic and not Secular? Even Turkey is secular in name only.
I had no idea he was here in Pune. I'd have definitely attended this talk.
Since Gokhale Institute of political science has its core domain cut out... would request it's faculty to conduct research on a very crucial subject.... If demographic in India change and Hindus become a minority... will India continue to be a free secular democracy???? This question is like the elephant in the room which no ao called intellectual wants to address..
I think we all know the answer; Gokhale institute like all other institutes and people in India, live in a politically correct illusory world and seek aman ki aasha, with grave consequences.
Hindus will never be a minority in India .Improve your maths .
Can Dr. Ishtiaq Ahmed, or anyone, throw any light as to how none of the leaders of India and Pakistan, as also the British rulers, could foresee the possibility of the blood-bath which, unfortunately, did take place, at the time of the trans-migration of the people on either side, on partition? For, earlier, in March,1947, i.e. before partition, the muslims had massacred thousands of sikhs in Rawalpindi/Sialkot, to which the sikhs had more than retaliated in East Punjab, later. There were other killings also, like at Noakhali. Jinnah's incendiary call of 'Direct Action', was in itself such as to be the cause of an ever-spreading poison to the minds of his followers. In such bakground, was it not apparent that the miscreants could have a free-hand to do anything with the migrating people, and that their misdoing could have a rippling effect en-masse in both the communities, leading to atrocities, which did occur? Gandhi, Nehru, Patel, Moulana Azad, Jinnah, Mountbatten and all the effective persons of their kind - none could visualise the grimness of the situation? Or some did (who?), and foretold it, but it was not heeded to? Properly, some thought should have been given as to how a smooth transition could be made possible for the migrating people, taking all possible precautions, like, for example, deploying the army itself to prevent any untoward incidents ( - because the army was free at the time), arranging unarduous transportation, etc., which was not done. Why should the above persons, therefore, not be held as being truly responsible for the unthinkable misery caused to the people involved, and be calumniated, instead of being honoured by having their names immortalised in monuments, governmental institutions, currency notes, etc.? Please enlighten, if anyone can, about the details of the thinking, utterances, etc. of the above leaders/persons about how the migration was to be planned and carried out and how they failed to achieve that.
Dr. Vishal Gaekwad ,
You were FELICITATING Dr. Ishtiyaq Ahmed, and Not FACILITATING him .
Please note it for your future functions .
Dr Ahmed is an asset of the the subcontinent in the field of political science and history.😮
Unfortunately this asset have little to none influence in foreign policy in Pakistan. His books are more read in India than in Pakistan. It’s good to appreciate his work but it’s foolish to expect one individual or a group of Pakistani people can change anything. He’s a Swedish citizen with Turkish wife and real Pakistani society is what you see in their textbooks, on social media and TV/UA-cam reaction channels 😂
@@skamaljeetsingh8720 🙏 does anybody having with them Dr Ishtiaq Ahmed’s views about India say 10/20/30 years old in the form of print/ video or in any other way and can they share it on UA-cam so that we here in India can assess him correctly. Is his opinion about India have remained same 20/25 years ago or have they changed now due to degradation of Pakistan and the drastic progress of India over the past 3 decades. Thank you!
Jai Hind! 🇮🇳
It is naive and cowardly to support the colonial BRI projects of China, which includes CPEC. Building roads and bridges is not a rocket science. It is not worth giving up national sovereignty and control just to build roads and infrastructure. India is building huge network of highways and ports at a rapid pace without any foreign involvement.
Great subject. Appreciated from Kolkata.
Ishtiaq Ahmed please we don't want relationship with Pakistan
TU konta hota hai be bolna wala
@@Husna-v2h1xIndian. He has his rights.
Agreed. Even the esteemed doctor favours the Mughals and is preaching to Indians about what language to use. He should go to Pakistan and educate them first!!!
@@Husna-v2h1x Abe totle achhe bol Pakistani hai kya tu
@@Desiboy646 Abe lavde totla hoga tera baap aur mei indian hun ..tu nepali hoke india ke internal matter mei na padh
You can not find another Pakistan 🇵🇰 man with this mentality and wisdom
Sir India did not become secular in 1947. It was in 1976 that Indira Gandhi inserted the word Secular in the preamble of Indian constitution slyly.
Dear Ishitaq Sir,
Nice to hear your kind words but I have huge disagreement with your style of thinking. First you say India has become majoritarian state without even understanding the reason. Opposing jihad violence is right of any sane community. Hindus are exactly doing that to save their lives and culture from Islamic jihad. You cant call it "majoritarianism".
Secondly, Maualana Azad advocated for a distorted history to show muslim invaders as heroes and Hindus warriors and kings have been kept hidden from the masses. Third, Muslims were always against Hindu majority nation so revolted. The fault lies in Muslim community. Their way of thinking is reason for instability in middle east and south Asia for now. Europe will suffer in coming future.
Pakistan has more than 220 million people and Not 170 million people .
Proper homework should have been done .
Prof. Ishtiaq Ahmed is a rare honest bold Pakistani intellectual.
👍🏼🙏🏽
You casually use the word majoritarianism and accuse Hindus of the same whereas the actual majoritarianism is seen in Pakistan even before partition the moslem majority provinces had subjugation and persecution of kaffirs including the christians who are people of the book. Opposing the jihad violence is not majoritarianism but the defence for survival.
Prof. Istiaq Ahmed - Great Polictical scientist from Pakistan
Nice Talk
Kon aane deta in ko india me
Pakistani lovers, aman ki Asha tamasha lovers
Junglee kabutoor sent
Dr Ishtiaq Ahmed is a nonsense thats it period 😂