@@GameDSS I coded an entire Ultima Online engine, together with socket handling, extension, custom scripting language, etc, all in C in `mcedit` in early 2000s. This is how people used to code. :)
first of all mosts IDEs can not even work on sources as large as the Linux kernel, or Firefox and slow down to a crawl or crash. 2nd, when I live streamed my lunch break I did not expect they just renamed stuff, I thought hey actually changed more API details and that is why I was reviewing this changes. All the smart IDE talking people probably never worked on low level code as large as the Linux kernel. Every big company already called over the last 15 years and waned to hire me as in most project we work in I'm perceived as an 10x engineer with my old school Unix techniques. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@Circe-wz3kg i think mostly philosophy, you have devs that learn a js framework every 2 months and then there are people that still use vi and do everything in raw C. When you have been doing something for so long it becomes a part of your character (i am pulling all this info straight out of my ass )
Happy to see one of those Magic Wizard guys of kernelprogrammers. Thank you and your colleagues for the hard work every day!❤ I would like to support you guys! But i think my programming skills are not strong enaugh…😢
This is very good and therapeutic. To use svn instead of git is one thing, but to actually write in accordance with the Law takes this thing to a whole new level.
Im back. Everytime I feel tired or not wanting to study or practice I watch you video and help me to be motivated again. I don't really know why, it just happens. Thaks for the motivation!
Absolutely mesmerizing to watch a true Linux master at work! The way you effortlessly navigate through the code and command line is truly inspiring. Your expertise in Linux development is evident, and I'm learning so much just from observing your process. Keep up the fantastic work!
Man, that eight-character tab space makes code incredibly readable, even if you're not using Tree-sitter for colorschemes -- I've been using that style for a long time.
Brilliant. I think it's too bad most people will never truly know the amount of hard work that goes into this sort of development, done by people like you.
Doesn’t matter if it’s your 2nd day or if you’re a kernel Linux developer. You will always go UP with your keyboard to avoid writing again any command on your Terminal.
Watching you coding in the terminal reminded me how IDEs and IntelliSense boost productivity. Never coded in the terminal but it brings me back to when I used to code in Sublime. Don't know how I ended up here but thanks for your work in the Linux Kernel btw.
I've never seen so many people pressed about what IDE a person uses and telling them to install a dozen plugins. He is not you. This is how he likes to work and he can be dropped onto any system and be 100% effective because he doesn't have to install all those plugins and key bindings. Chill people.
Amazing video! I find kernel development and low level development in general very interesting and I want to get started but I don't know where to start :( any tips?
I am also a programmer. But I appriciate because you are using terminal only for coding. That's totally great. I always use ide that helps me, suggests code and so on. You have so much dedication , no doubt
after watching this i'm thankful for vscode's merge conflict editor. It was pretty funny watching those typos on the same word `error` happen. First it was `rrror` and then it was "fixed" to `errror`. Half the video is just resolving the merge conflict. slightly frustrating to watch because his workflow seemed less efficient. for example there is a vim shortcut to change the case of a letter. In normal mode its `~`. Also there is replace mode, just type `R` in normal mode, and as you type it replaces letters below the cursor. Its like `r` but for multiple letters. And also my fav vim command `.` that basically does the last edit in a new place, it surprisingly works very well. I'm not even a vim expert nor is it my main editor. I just wished he was more efficient somehow.
I have read other comments of him saying hes a 10x developer and its not possible to use IDEs for linux kernal. sounds fair, but I expect a 10x dev to know vim which is where he spends most of his time editing.
@@syllogismo Never tried working on the Linux kernel but this isn't really true, IDEs have a hard time working on large codebases like unreal engine but the only problem is that you won't fully get the nice features of parameter/function info, autocomplete, syntax highlighting or other niceties. It's still better to have partial help than non at all. It also catches simple errorsmost of the times like typos and even some UBs. I didn't even see him use terminal multiplexing which would help in comparing commits. To each their own tools but it feels like he didn't master what he uses.
When I imagine msyelf being a successful programmer, I dont see myself overly paid to be a manager, etc. Its to be a code monkey speaking tongues in Assembly in the dark, solo, and having a blast at it
7:11 there's typo in: const int err = ztd_get_rrror_code(ret); --? at this point I can't continue watching, looks too awsome. I mean in general, this looks more like real life sculpting from junk of clay into much more detailed realistic something. It's like not too caring approach to actually caring a lot. Didn't know one can do that at all with coding. omg. If that's true, Ressspeect!
What a god! Guy uses Vi instead of neovim, and even have not line numbering. By the way, what's the best way to start to contribute to linux? I know a couple of old books, but the kernel version they explain is older than 3.0 (6.3 latest today)
Btw I have never grown out of scripty adolescence 😀, my game addiction is preventing me from growing professionally, do you know 0ad I play that maybe you can help the technical problems the dev team is facing in this open source game
this guy is using svn instead git? WTF !!!
I work in D-Link India as Developer and yes we also use 'svn' , haha
Good god
@@zuu379 good gracious
my project too use SVN 🤣🤣
svn is alive and well on enterprise work
You look exactly how i imagined linux kernel developer
Thanks!
😭💀
young carl from up
LOL exactly!!
this is the man that stackoverflow goes to for answers
this is the YT channel stackoverflow readers go to when they don't find an answer thru google search, ...
He is speaking in assembly.
😂
😭
Need to maximize those cycles...
😃
We had game streaming now we have dev streaming what a time to be alive
no syntax highlighting, just raw dogging the terminal is CRAZY
That's how I grew up learning to code ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@MoreReneRebe nowadays impossible haha
@@GameDSS I coded an entire Ultima Online engine, together with socket handling, extension, custom scripting language, etc, all in C in `mcedit` in early 2000s. This is how people used to code. :)
"Raw dogging the terminal", lmao, what a phrase I've never heard before
Raw dogging the terminal... Lmfao 🤣🤣🤣
No fancy terminal theme, No custom neovim, using single 1080p monitor, Microsoft 400 keyboard, sitting on a stool. This guy is shredding Kernel dev.
and he’s writing directly into the .patch files 🙌
Ridículous, tecnologie and facilities are good to use, its doesn’t mean he is a good programmer, but a stupid one
@gofernandez345 And it takes him 30 minutes to do what "rename" does in a real IDE in 2 clicks
first of all mosts IDEs can not even work on sources as large as the Linux kernel, or Firefox and slow down to a crawl or crash. 2nd, when I live streamed my lunch break I did not expect they just renamed stuff, I thought hey actually changed more API details and that is why I was reviewing this changes. All the smart IDE talking people probably never worked on low level code as large as the Linux kernel. Every big company already called over the last 15 years and waned to hire me as in most project we work in I'm perceived as an 10x engineer with my old school Unix techniques. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
LOLLL😂
Bro I got no clue what is happening but i am here for it
haha same bro
this guy codes in VI without an LSP nor Treesitter to at least color the code symbols, what in the heck this guy is a hero
I would love to know why, is that for speed or there is an other reason?
yes i want to know too.@@7pri2
Probably the chadness@@7pri2
@@7pri2 mb he just grew up coding in phosphor monitors with only one tone of green and get used coding in this setup
@@7pri2 maybe but to some extent it's also Linux kernel developer vibes^^
Watching you write the very OS im using rn, writing code i could never dream of understanding in depth. Keep up the awesome work🎉🎉
I'm a software engineer but this is indeed some tough stuff!
mid to low level development is reeeally hard.
Good job!
Soon as I saw default VI w/ no customizations I knew I needed to subscribe, wow
Real dawg
Why use vi instead of vim?
@@Circe-wz3kg i think mostly philosophy, you have devs that learn a js framework every 2 months and then there are people that still use vi and do everything in raw C. When you have been doing something for so long it becomes a part of your character (i am pulling all this info straight out of my ass )
@@aliawada4541 I think thats about right though
@@aliawada4541thank you for citing your sources
This guy talk to him self and we just watched it, but i like it.. XD
Until I saw you, I thought my job was difficult.. Big respect man
😂😂😂😂😂
No, what he did is not difficult. He just has to change some identifiers.
@@analinizotwocka4599gttr
Truly a hardcore programmer 👍🏼👍🏼
6:42 😬, it was therapeutic until I saw the triple r's, then it became stressful! 😆
yea...i kept thinking now is when he gets it
only took 7 minutes to catch it too. honestly impressive
13:08 errror (with 3 'r's) - I'm not sure if this got fixed later
Saw same 6:42 , hoping it didn't go out 😆
i don't understand a single thing
HE IS SPEAKING THE LANGUAGE OF GODS!
Indeed
I didn't understand how to code linux before, now I am like before
Happy to see one of those Magic Wizard guys of kernelprogrammers. Thank you and your colleagues for the hard work every day!❤ I would like to support you guys! But i think my programming skills are not strong enaugh…😢
This is very good and therapeutic. To use svn instead of git is one thing, but to actually write in accordance with the Law takes this thing to a whole new level.
The "Law"?
@@Zwettekop Yes, I mean "the Law" in the same sense as in the book "The Cyber AI of the Law". Have you heard of this book?
@@BlackHermit I can't find it, who is the author?
Loving the use of vi. Haven't done low level code for 22 years now and spend more time in PowerPoint and Visio now. Good video !
you know what kind of person he is when you see him, and this guy is one of them. lovely
madman coding with no syntax highlighting. my man
haha watching this is awesome. Insane skills. Cheers! Subscribed
Thanks for the sub!
Holy shit! You just don't know how impressed I am right now. This is insane. You sir, are insane!
Im back. Everytime I feel tired or not wanting to study or practice I watch you video and help me to be motivated again. I don't really know why, it just happens. Thaks for the motivation!
Dam. Those first two minutes was INTENSE😅
Really clutch to make it trough 💆
Either scattered mind, or bad tools, or complicated environment. But definitely good will!
UA-cam algorithm: this guy will watch anything at this point
Homie looks like Edward Snowden
Thanks for what you do, Linux is the best thing that ever happened to computers
Absolutely mesmerizing to watch a true Linux master at work! The way you effortlessly navigate through the code and command line is truly inspiring. Your expertise in Linux development is evident, and I'm learning so much just from observing your process. Keep up the fantastic work!
Wish I can land my low-level programming job some day, it is challenging but will feel like learning many low-level system issues.
Very hardworking man. Respect!
you are everything I aspire to be
Man, that eight-character tab space makes code incredibly readable, even if you're not using Tree-sitter for colorschemes -- I've been using that style for a long time.
I am learning linux fundamentals now and when I saw this I feel bad for myself lmao. But I subscribed because your skill is outstanding.
actual video title: Neo and The Matrix console
Brilliant. I think it's too bad most people will never truly know the amount of hard work that goes into this sort of development, done by people like you.
This isn't a Linux Developer, it's Half-life's Gordon Freeman!
I would love to see your scripts/Build-Target to learn on how to build .iso out of custom built kernel. Thank you!
it's all in #t2sde: t2sde.org svn.exactcode.de/t2/trunk
@@MoreReneRebe Thank you very much. I didn't know this. It is the first time I discover your channel. I'll check it out.
I don't even know what's going on but I have the feeling that I should be impressed
no idea whats going on but it looks cool
Note the presense of XZ, interesting to see it in these older videos. Now a CVE 10.0
amazing video :) aaaand yes, you are a beast doing this thing. ✌
thank you so much!
Wouldn’t a GUI editor make large pieces of code easier to comprehend and the workflow faster?
Not necessarily. Modern IDEs are often slow and cumbersome to use. Especially with projects as large as the Linux kernel.
I can't imagine developing without IDE
How did you learn kernel development from scratch? Any roadmap
Landed C, started modifying the Linux kernel to my liking.
Great movie. I don't understand anything but it looks good to me.
those glasses explains everything... I mean there is no chance if someone is not a kernel developer wearing those glasses.
subscribed!
hope you will release more of this type of content
as a java junior developer,i have no idea what you’re doing , but it seems pretty cool
most normal OS Developer
I'm learning English. Title: developer, now deveoper.
Doesn’t matter if it’s your 2nd day or if you’re a kernel Linux developer. You will always go UP with your keyboard to avoid writing again any command on your Terminal.
So this is the guy doing black magic so that I can play around in Linux.
Bro I don't understand shit but I like it and it's a good asmr
Watching you coding in the terminal reminded me how IDEs and IntelliSense boost productivity. Never coded in the terminal but it brings me back to when I used to code in Sublime. Don't know how I ended up here but thanks for your work in the Linux Kernel btw.
In each ide in slower.
One day I'm gonna know what you're talking about. One day, I promise.
🖖
If I were to make a movie about aliens, that would definitely be in it.
I have watched the entire video while wondering what's going on. I love it!
This is indeed therapeutic.❤
This guy is a genius
I've never seen so many people pressed about what IDE a person uses and telling them to install a dozen plugins. He is not you. This is how he likes to work and he can be dropped onto any system and be 100% effective because he doesn't have to install all those plugins and key bindings. Chill people.
Exactly! Just give me a terminal and an editor ;-)
OK that cleared up a lot of things for me, thank you! Now, time for a few more kitten vids
How can you write the code without syntax highlighting and error lens???
By just knowing the code I guess ;-)
I'm watching this kind of videos to remind me I'm not so good as I might think when I manage to code something.
He is the exact type of guy which the Hacker movies try to potray .
I think he mentions it, but can someone explain what part of the kernel he is patching?
Back in that stream zstd compression, otherwise something else often live every other day ;-)
Linux System Administrator Fundamental Boot camp
May be we are all in a matrix and he might be the matrix developer 😂
No syntax highlighting man i wish i had this superpower
Thanks for sharing, amazing learning for us :)
Glad you enjoyed it!
Sounds like boomhauer from king of the hill
I watched only the first part, and looked like he is changing camel case to snake case.
Amazing video! I find kernel development and low level development in general very interesting and I want to get started but I don't know where to start :( any tips?
assembly)
I think arduino is a great place to start.
Start from the filesystem since everything is a “file” in Unix based OSs
There is a udemy course i am doing now Developing a multithreaded kernel from scratch by Daniel Mckarthy
@@mod7ex_fx
assembly is the pill to cure wanting to go low level XD
what kind of assembly anymway, x86, arm, risc-v? ...
I have no idea what he is doing, but I am loving it
Exactly the persona of a Linux Kernel engineer
just rawdogging VI. beautiful video.
At 6:40 I think you made a substitution error there... Not sure if it got caught or not but wanted to mention it.
yep was just about to comment the same thing ;p
I am also a programmer. But I appriciate because you are using terminal only for coding. That's totally great. I always use ide that helps me, suggests code and so on. You have so much dedication , no doubt
Thanks!
as he has mentioned in a reply to another comment , the linux kernel cannot be handled by say vs code .
after watching this i'm thankful for vscode's merge conflict editor. It was pretty funny watching those typos on the same word `error` happen. First it was `rrror` and then it was "fixed" to `errror`. Half the video is just resolving the merge conflict. slightly frustrating to watch because his workflow seemed less efficient.
for example there is a vim shortcut to change the case of a letter. In normal mode its `~`. Also there is replace mode, just type `R` in normal mode, and as you type it replaces letters below the cursor. Its like `r` but for multiple letters. And also my fav vim command `.` that basically does the last edit in a new place, it surprisingly works very well. I'm not even a vim expert nor is it my main editor. I just wished he was more efficient somehow.
I have read other comments of him saying hes a 10x developer and its not possible to use IDEs for linux kernal. sounds fair, but I expect a 10x dev to know vim which is where he spends most of his time editing.
@@syllogismo Never tried working on the Linux kernel but this isn't really true, IDEs have a hard time working on large codebases like unreal engine but the only problem is that you won't fully get the nice features of parameter/function info, autocomplete, syntax highlighting or other niceties.
It's still better to have partial help than non at all.
It also catches simple errorsmost of the times like typos and even some UBs.
I didn't even see him use terminal multiplexing which would help in comparing commits.
To each their own tools but it feels like he didn't master what he uses.
@@syllogismohe's using Vi not Vim. Maybe those features don't exist in Vi lol
Do you run your coding environment in a VM? just curious.
When I imagine msyelf being a successful programmer, I dont see myself overly paid to be a manager, etc. Its to be a code monkey speaking tongues in Assembly in the dark, solo, and having a blast at it
Now try freebsd kernel development 😊
I see glimpse of Keanu from Neo, Steve Jobs as well! BTW I have less idea what's going on but I believe this guy is having a monk time!
Looks interesting, but I think I will stick to frontend and backend dev 😂
my bro even speaks in assembly
7:11 there's typo in: const int err = ztd_get_rrror_code(ret); --?
at this point I can't continue watching, looks too awsome.
I mean in general, this looks more like real life sculpting from junk of clay into much more detailed realistic something. It's like not too caring approach to actually caring a lot. Didn't know one can do that at all with coding. omg. If that's true, Ressspeect!
Thanks!
This dude coses on THE vim... A menace to society. I bow down in front of you sir
I mean i guess…just feels prone to mistakes. Like at 6:40 when he misnames a function zstd_rrror_code(ret)
He's using Vi, vim is much more sane compared to to vi
as a mobile developer im jealous af of your skill. very nice vids!
Thank you!
The first 20 minutes was spent renaming functions. relatable
=D Side effect of installing windows.. I didn't know that was on the list.. haha
What a god! Guy uses Vi instead of neovim, and even have not line numbering. By the way, what's the best way to start to contribute to linux? I know a couple of old books, but the kernel version they explain is older than 3.0 (6.3 latest today)
How does he code without syntax coloring is the biggest mystery for me
look at some source code ?
which distro you currently use ?
I only use my t2sde.org for 25y already
He is speaking in Fortran
I liked you work.
Keep going sis.
Thank you, I will !
I hope one day will be like you.
this was 2 years ago? I was searching for this kind of videos 2 year ago.
the YT algorithm only started to love us recently :-/ I guess share, like and subscribe helped ;-)!1!
@@MoreReneRebe I think script kiddies are beginning to get bored at javascript, they are ready for the next level
Btw I have never grown out of scripty adolescence 😀, my game addiction is preventing me from growing professionally, do you know 0ad I play that maybe you can help the technical problems the dev team is facing in this open source game