To round up the parameter lenght, try the following: Create a second parameter, for example lenght2, it is defined as ceil((lenght) / 1 mm) * 1 mm, the result will be the full next unit, so 11,1mm will get 12mm, 23,5mm will get 24mm and so on. If you use ceil((lenght) / 10 mm) * 10 mm it will round up to the next full ten. 23mm will get 30mm, 56,8 will get 60mm. The function floor makes the same in the other direction. I don't know if it is possible to round the summary of the pieces in the BOM. Normally the ERP system is responsible for this. Use this parameter as Export.
great video, CAN YOU MAKE THAT THE INFO OF EACH iPART APPEARS SEPARATELY IN THE PARTLIST, I DONT WANT THE TOTAL LENGHT OF THREE PARTS, I WANT THE LENGHT OF EACH ONE, LIKE: ITEM1 800mm ; ITEM2 500mm ; ITEM3 1000mm...etc
True... that's how I've always documented this sort of stuff. Then you could give a length descriptive name sting in the description field rather than getting the "multiple valued apply" fuckery... PCB Carrier Board mm.
Magic Neil. I'll set up our Cable tray to do this. We currently have to B*gg*r about manually with the exported BOM. It's a pain in the bum ! Very good tutorial as always. Thank you. Jim
Love these videos. Thanks. I would not make qty length. You can bring the length variable in to the parts list directly or put a sketch on the part called partlength and export as custom param. I use the bom structure and qty to put out a quantity. What I want to know is how to make a drawing for the factory or one part and get a new drawing for each new part. Especially for putting different notching or features in each iteration which is possible on a custom ipart. Also, how to move ipart files.
Hi Jockey, Thanks alot for the tut, I used it as instructed and it work brill. BUT I then would like to have a count of how many of each of the ipart in my BOM. Is this possible? Or have I missed a step somewhere? Or am I just thick? Cheers again
I love your videos!! I was hoping that I am able to use iparts for a roller conveyor. The length and width obviously will change, but I also need the legs and rollers to populate as needed. Is this possible?
Is there a way to use this system, but in an iAssembly? So you place an iAssembly, fill in a custom length that it updates, but with some other components constrained to it?
I love this, but I'm having an issue of where Inventor saves the Member. I'd like to set a location for the Member save, but it's just adding it to my Working Folder and I cannot find any way to change this. The Interweb has a zillion different ideas, but none of them work. You seem to know what you're doing, so I hope you have a fix.
Hi, You have best videos available in UA-cam so far! I have problem to Drive iPart LENGTH param by an iAssembly table's Custom Parameter Column what way it is possible? Would You be able to make tip for that?
I like very much the way you teach Inventor specially the iParts. Can you do a training or help me in develope an Ipart Brick Wall? The way I visualize it is, that I will have a wall with two or maybe more sizes. But just to start with something imple, I would like to understand the array and the offset when you place a second row or alternating the bricks. One more thing, could be that the dimensions change and will rebuilt and place more bricks. And the third item needed is that there will be cut pieces that will be none standard size. The sizes could be 9"x6"x3" 4 1/2"x6"x3" (to be able to start the next row by offsetting half full brick and the cut pieces will have Lx6"x3". Can be possible? I really appreciate all the help I can get to do this. Thank you so much
hi , i have a really complicated question .. i want to use un I-part in I-assembly but it is really difficult to chose depending on key parameters and it refuse to set a value for the custom parameter. can you help please?
It would be perfect to name member with length. If we are working with Vault and for example 2 designers create the same part with the same length, it would create 2 exacly the same parts with different names. It is not an big issue but it might be confusing. Currently we deal with that ipart has all the lengths options with 1 mm accuracy but the problem is that such an ipart works slowly if it has 6000 possibilities.
If your working with vault, it would be better to convert the iPart to a Content Center part in vault and tie your projects to the vault content center. It will save the content center parts as lengths.
Hi, was there an updated version of this tutorial? Would be great to know if what was the improvement in Inventor up to this date with referring to creating an iParts. Thanks!
Hello, this tutorial is very uesefull. How about iassembly. Can we use custom length (extrusion) of one part (let's say master part) to controll the length of other parts i.e. if I put 300mm on master part in assembly, can other parts have same length generated automatically?
What happens when you create a length that has once been created already? example: part 01 was 500mm, two years later you create part87 that is also 500mm Does inventor recognize this? Does it even really matter?
Is it possible to place the iPart in an assembly from a library and save all the derivatives in the workspace? Similar to placing a steel section from content centre?
Would it be possible to create iparts this way of valves? It would not be the length that differs, but a custom property called "TAG" each valve has it's own TAG number, but now I need to copy each valve to a new part and change TAG's
Have you given anymore thought to mapping the cut length into the file name? This would be extremely helpful for me. Please let me know if you have any tips to accomplish this task. Thank you…
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If you publish your iPart to the Content Center, it is possible. In the Content Center table editor you can use expressions for the columns, so it's possible to include the "length" parameter in the file name column.
What I do with this is I open the excel spreadsheet for the factory and run a "concatenate" function to populate the length in as part of the filename. iPart factories have their downsides, they are difficult to manage in the vault system (very difficult to move), so the only time we use them is when publishing a part to the content center. Hope this helps.
Thanks for the vid, your the man for sure. Can I pick ya huge Brain please? I need to set up a ipart as you have shown - Brill, then add a left and right ipart together - still no problem - but now I would like to add this sub assembly into an assembly but still be able to adjust the length to suit my design of the day. Can this be done in one go? or do you have to use the table for each part and change component.
Nice, Thank you for your tutorial is very usefull. To round up the Length is it possible to create another User Parameter an put the equation ceil(Length) on it?
I am attempting to incorporate iParts at my workplace. Most of our designs require custom cut lengths. Is there a way to name the member as the length parameter? I haven't found a way yet. Also is it possible to avoid duplicating the member if the same length is entered? P.S. I have recently discovered your page and I enjoy the videos! Keep up the good work!
I am making iparts like these now. I need to make a sketch that reports the partlength to parameters as a driven value. I must do this do to miters and notching (repeat must). So each variation has a different part length. When I try to bring partlength parameter into the table to be exported to the partlist for the drawing, Inventor populates the entire column with the active part length. Under no circumstances can I have actively linked part lengths in my drawing part list. I have a workaround, but I would like an active link that updates when I change the input variables in the table. I this possible?
Thanks a big help this one, could I do a similar thing but with the extrusion length adaptive? I have tried this and failed but I was using the joint feature instead of the constraint command, would this render further constraints impossible? i.e. placing the part then constraining the end to create the length through the adaptive extrusion. I am trying to place aluminium flat bar into slots which can vary many times and may also be subject to design change which is where the adaptive feature would come into play. Thanks... Keep the videos coming.
This is a great overview! but I got a question, is it possible to limit the length base on material availability? Like If it's more than the standard length, the BOM will generate another column so you can order per unit length rather than doing the calculation in manual to order?
+Luke Niederhauser No m8 it's intentional, as all 3 parts are the same part (they all have the same part number), Inventor combines them. In this case it combines them and says look, all 3 of these are the same and you need 1.8m of it. If the parts were counted as 'each', it would combine them and just say you need 3 of these. Imagine the parts list for a massive machine with 300 of the same type of washer in it, it would be a pretty crazy sized parts list if it had 300 lines in the parts list for the same washer!
+Luke Niederhauser Typically the Part Number field should be the unique identifier and the Stock Number the same indicating that the three diff parts were cut from the same stock. Neil had it the other way around and then Inventor will show it like he had it in his drawing. Typically in Vault for instance you would not be able to assign the same Part or Item number to three parts which are physically different. They should each have a unique Part Number.
Pieter van der Westhuizen I think it might differ based on where somebody works. In all the places I've worked it would be the same part number as in this example, you're buying the same part from a supplier, you're just then cutting it to a custom length once you're received it. If they came in pre-cut sizes then it would be different part numbers I guess.
+Pieter van der Westhuizen Just in addition to this, I've just noticed the mention of Vault Pro and items. I can't speak for every company, but for every Vault Pro implementation I've done the part number would be the same even when using Vault items. Take an O-ring for example, one O-ring can have multiple separate IPT files representing the same part just modeled at a different stretch radius, you'd then have 1 item with those multiple files linked to it because each file represents the same O-ring. You release the item, it releases multiple files. I can't see the logic in having multiple items all with different part numbers representing the same part, that would surely be unmanageable?
I can't say enough how good these videos are. They should be a must in construction classes at schools. 👍
To round up the parameter lenght, try the following: Create a second parameter, for example lenght2, it is defined as ceil((lenght) / 1 mm) * 1 mm, the result will be the full next unit, so 11,1mm will get 12mm, 23,5mm will get 24mm and so on. If you use ceil((lenght) / 10 mm) * 10 mm it will round up to the next full ten. 23mm will get 30mm, 56,8 will get 60mm. The function floor makes the same in the other direction. I don't know if it is possible to round the summary of the pieces in the BOM. Normally the ERP system is responsible for this. Use this parameter as Export.
Thanks - you are spot on, entertaining, and we are all better for it!
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great video, CAN YOU MAKE THAT THE INFO OF EACH iPART APPEARS SEPARATELY IN THE PARTLIST, I DONT WANT THE TOTAL LENGHT OF THREE PARTS, I WANT THE LENGHT OF EACH ONE, LIKE: ITEM1 800mm ; ITEM2 500mm ; ITEM3 1000mm...etc
thanks a lot.
Still it can be helpful to have length specified for each item.
True... that's how I've always documented this sort of stuff. Then you could give a length descriptive name sting in the description field rather than getting the "multiple valued apply" fuckery...
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Magic Neil. I'll set up our Cable tray to do this. We currently have to B*gg*r about manually with the exported BOM. It's a pain in the bum !
Very good tutorial as always. Thank you.
Jim
Great video
but how do you take a i assembly and put it in a new assembly with unique cut lengths
Brilliant
Love these videos. Thanks.
I would not make qty length. You can bring the length variable in to the parts list directly or put a sketch on the part called partlength and export as custom param. I use the bom structure and qty to put out a quantity.
What I want to know is how to make a drawing for the factory or one part and get a new drawing for each new part. Especially for putting different notching or features in each iteration which is possible on a custom ipart. Also, how to move ipart files.
Hi Jockey, Thanks alot for the tut, I used it as instructed and it work brill. BUT I then would like to have a count of how many of each of the ipart in my BOM. Is this possible? Or have I missed a step somewhere? Or am I just thick? Cheers again
When you put it into the content center, you can use the length as a part of the file name.
What do you mean, "when you put it into the content center"?
I love your videos!! I was hoping that I am able to use iparts for a roller conveyor. The length and width obviously will change, but I also need the legs and rollers to populate as needed. Is this possible?
Is there a way to use this system, but in an iAssembly? So you place an iAssembly, fill in a custom length that it updates, but with some other components constrained to it?
What would I have to do to display all 3 parts separately in the parts list?
Thanks for very good tuts
Have you ever figured out how to map the length into the filename?
I love this, but I'm having an issue of where Inventor saves the Member. I'd like to set a location for the Member save, but it's just adding it to my Working Folder and I cannot find any way to change this. The Interweb has a zillion different ideas, but none of them work. You seem to know what you're doing, so I hope you have a fix.
The Description can be mage with cut length used in conjunction with iLogic
Hi, You have best videos available in UA-cam so far!
I have problem to Drive iPart LENGTH param by an iAssembly table's Custom Parameter Column what way it is possible? Would You be able to make tip for that?
I like very much the way you teach Inventor specially the iParts. Can you do a training or help me in develope an Ipart Brick Wall?
The way I visualize it is, that I will have a wall with two or maybe more sizes. But just to start with something imple, I would like to understand the array and the offset when you place a second row or alternating the bricks.
One more thing, could be that the dimensions change and will rebuilt and place more bricks.
And the third item needed is that there will be cut pieces that will be none standard size.
The sizes could be 9"x6"x3" 4 1/2"x6"x3" (to be able to start the next row by offsetting half full brick and the cut pieces will have Lx6"x3".
Can be possible? I really appreciate all the help I can get to do this.
Thank you so much
Hi, great video
I have a question, is it possible to define a default folder where all these iparts versions will be saved?
Can you make a video of creating cable trays
hi , i have a really complicated question .. i want to use un I-part in I-assembly but it is really difficult to chose depending on key parameters and it refuse to set a value for the custom parameter. can you help please?
It would be perfect to name member with length. If we are working with Vault and for example 2 designers create the same part with the same length, it would create 2 exacly the same parts with different names. It is not an big issue but it might be confusing. Currently we deal with that ipart has all the lengths options with 1 mm accuracy but the problem is that such an ipart works slowly if it has 6000 possibilities.
If your working with vault, it would be better to convert the iPart to a Content Center part in vault and tie your projects to the vault content center. It will save the content center parts as lengths.
Hi, was there an updated version of this tutorial? Would be great to know if what was the improvement in Inventor up to this date with referring to creating an iParts. Thanks!
what if I go into one of generated and placed part and change the Length? what if I generate the part with length that already was generated?
Hello, this tutorial is very uesefull. How about iassembly. Can we use custom length (extrusion) of one part (let's say master part) to controll the length of other parts i.e. if I put 300mm on master part in assembly, can other parts have same length generated automatically?
What happens when you create a length that has once been created already?
example: part 01 was 500mm, two years later you create part87 that is also 500mm
Does inventor recognize this? Does it even really matter?
Is it possible to place the iPart in an assembly from a library and save all the derivatives in the workspace? Similar to placing a steel section from content centre?
Would it be possible to create iparts this way of valves? It would not be the length that differs, but a custom property called "TAG" each valve has it's own TAG number, but now I need to copy each valve to a new part and change TAG's
Have you given anymore thought to mapping the cut length
into the file name? This would be extremely helpful for me. Please let me know
if you have any tips to accomplish this task. Thank you…
If you publish your iPart to the Content Center, it is possible. In the Content Center table editor you can use expressions for the columns, so it's possible to include the "length" parameter in the file name column.
What I do with this is I open the excel spreadsheet for the factory and run a "concatenate" function to populate the length in as part of the filename. iPart factories have their downsides, they are difficult to manage in the vault system (very difficult to move), so the only time we use them is when publishing a part to the content center. Hope this helps.
Thanks for the vid, your the man for sure. Can I pick ya huge Brain please? I need to set up a ipart as you have shown - Brill, then add a left and right ipart together - still no problem - but now I would like to add this sub assembly into an assembly but still be able to adjust the length to suit my design of the day. Can this be done in one go? or do you have to use the table for each part and change component.
Thanks
Nice, Thank you for your tutorial is very usefull.
To round up the Length is it possible to create another User Parameter an put the equation ceil(Length) on it?
I am attempting to incorporate iParts at my workplace. Most of our designs require custom cut lengths. Is there a way to name the member as the length parameter? I haven't found a way yet. Also is it possible to avoid duplicating the member if the same length is entered?
P.S. I have recently discovered your page and I enjoy the videos! Keep up the good work!
Please add Inventor Sheet Metal & Dynamic Simulation.
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I am making iparts like these now. I need to make a sketch that reports the partlength to parameters as a driven value. I must do this do to miters and notching (repeat must).
So each variation has a different part length. When I try to bring partlength parameter into the table to be exported to the partlist for the drawing, Inventor populates the entire column with the active part length. Under no circumstances can I have actively linked part lengths in my drawing part list. I have a workaround, but I would like an active link that updates when I change the input variables in the table. I this possible?
How to do this with a hole pattern in the profile? Changing the amount of holes bij cut length.
Create the hole pattern in the master and make it adaptive to length. Several ways to do it.
Thanks a big help this one, could I do a similar thing but with the extrusion length adaptive? I have tried this and failed but I was using the joint feature instead of the constraint command, would this render further constraints impossible? i.e. placing the part then constraining the end to create the length through the adaptive extrusion. I am trying to place aluminium flat bar into slots which can vary many times and may also be subject to design change which is where the adaptive feature would come into play.
Thanks...
Keep the videos coming.
What would I have to do to display all 3 parts separately in the parts list?
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oh man get on with it!
This is a great overview! but I got a question, is it possible to limit the length base on material availability? Like If it's more than the standard length, the BOM will generate another column so you can order per unit length rather than doing the calculation in manual to order?
Nah not with iParts, you'd need to look at coding that using iLogic. And I'm still a total noob with iLogic hence why I've done no videos on it!
Thanks! as usual, your video are very informative!
Isn't the parts list wrong? There are three parts. Shouldn't there be three items in the parts list?
+Luke Niederhauser No m8 it's intentional, as all 3 parts are the same part (they all have the same part number), Inventor combines them. In this case it combines them and says look, all 3 of these are the same and you need 1.8m of it. If the parts were counted as 'each', it would combine them and just say you need 3 of these. Imagine the parts list for a massive machine with 300 of the same type of washer in it, it would be a pretty crazy sized parts list if it had 300 lines in the parts list for the same washer!
+Luke Niederhauser
Typically the Part Number field should be the unique identifier and the Stock Number the same indicating that the three diff parts were cut from the same stock. Neil had it the other way around and then Inventor will show it like he had it in his drawing. Typically in Vault for instance you would not be able to assign the same Part or Item number to three parts which are physically different. They should each have a unique Part Number.
+Luke Niederhauser
A Quick fix could be to switch off "Part Number Row Merge" in the BOM Window. That should then display the items separately.
Pieter van der Westhuizen I think it might differ based on where somebody works. In all the places I've worked it would be the same part number as in this example, you're buying the same part from a supplier, you're just then cutting it to a custom length once you're received it. If they came in pre-cut sizes then it would be different part numbers I guess.
+Pieter van der Westhuizen Just in addition to this, I've just noticed the mention of Vault Pro and items. I can't speak for every company, but for every Vault Pro implementation I've done the part number would be the same even when using Vault items. Take an O-ring for example, one O-ring can have multiple separate IPT files representing the same part just modeled at a different stretch radius, you'd then have 1 item with those multiple files linked to it because each file represents the same O-ring. You release the item, it releases multiple files. I can't see the logic in having multiple items all with different part numbers representing the same part, that would surely be unmanageable?
But Neil, how can I make that part length driven by a parameter within the assembly? :D
was looking for this exact question. Do you have the answer yet?
@@lennartkuiper5157 possibly... would need more information on how you have things setup.
Great but.....iParts not adaptable.