What I always found fascinating about Jeong Jeong is that he was a rare case of a bender who wasn’t happy with the element he could bend, resenting fire’s wild and destructive nature, and lamenting how Waterbending provided utility in healing. How happy he’d have been to hear about the Firebending healing that was developed before Korra’s era.
@@stephanievanderboom7145 No, In beginnings part 1, when Korra loses her memory, she was healed by fire sages of bhanti tribe (the same tribe Nyahitha belonged to in Kyoshi novels) recover her memory through firebending healing.
It's interesting that there was no mention of Iroh's spiritual side or how he knew that to make a better bender without being the Avatar was to study like an Avatar and learn from the others, like how his study of waterbenders led him to develop the ability to redirect lightning.
Yes, I loved that aspect of the story. I mean, makes sense, given that the idea behind ATLA was balance. And the elements are all part and parcel with each other. But I also LOVED how this was shown on two levels, the mastery a regular bender achieves with a single element (or twoish) vs the mastery an avatar achieves. All the pre-spirit world stuff where the avatars could connect to their past lives, the creativity with which they bend everything…on a whole mother scale. It was so cool!
There will never be a moment when I see the scene where Zuko returns to Iroh, and Iroh lovingly accepts him back, that I don't get blurry-eyed. Best moment in all of avatar imo.
Agreed the moment when he started singing and then it showed his son I cried not very many things make me cry with that was truly a moment of reflection.
@@julycowboy2100 in that case, you better strip Aang and Korra of their additional 3 elements for these things. Korra + Raava = Avatar Korra Aang + Raava = Avatar Aang Unalaq + Vaatu = Avatar Unalaq
@@julycowboy2100 Unalaq still experienced a power boost in waterbending when he became the Dark Avatar Unalaq was an avatar in the just same way Wan was an Avatar - and you wouldn’t go ‘Wan wasn’t an Avatar’ would you?
@@lucasrobin2788 Unalock shouldn’t be considered a member of the red lotus, everything he did went against the beliefs members of the red lotus follow.
Just to make Unalaq more of the villain he's supposed to be, remember that this guy killed the Avatar Cycle and is the reason why we never saw Aang return for seasons 3 & 4.
It was necessary for the plot. Cause if that continued there was no way any villain could ever pose a threat to the avatar since they could take their bending away. And each avatar would get stronger and stronger every cycle cause they’ll have the knowledge and experience of more past avatars
I'm sorry no, P'li out classes Ming'wa everyday of the week. Combustion bending is volatile, but with the exception of lavabending and bloodbending, it is the powerful offensive bending disicpline. Mingwa made tentacles out of water. I know that's underplaying it but still, P'li always has to be taken out or distracted for the heroes to get the upper hand, the battle in Zao Foo, The air temple ambush, etc.
But p’li is like a double edge sword. If she isn’t truly focused while using her combustion, she can easily be taken out or have it used against her. Ming hua is a lot more agile and versatile.
I think Ming Hua's water-bending special capabilities is how she control the water(that's the obvious one), also on how she harden it vice versa, and the surface tension.
Wrong, P’Li was the strong arm of the group, she could take on a group of metal benders alone, among them included Kuvira, Lin and Suyin, and she almost won. Also, when she was knocked out in Zaofu they lost. She’s extremely versatile and agile, never underestimate her.
P'Li was definitely skilled but she had the same glaring weakness that sparky boom man did. Which ultimately caused her downfall. Her combustion bending is as much a liability as it is a skill. she has to have an unbelievable amount of awareness so as to not either get hit...or get her face covered. As strong as she was, she was definitely the weak link of the Red Lotus.
is it weird that i want to see an alternate timeline where Unalock becomes the dark avatar but nobody knows about it and he develops his bending overtime unnoticed and disguised in different nations? like just imagine how cool that fight between Korra and him would have been.
@@KaiserRebbut he didn't say he can't beat him , Even with the flight Tenzin will still beat him I will rate him as the weakest of them although his the leader He was never an Airbending master
Dude gazhan is the strongest. Dude did what the fire nation failed to achieve in 100 years (destroy the basing se wall) he also melted the whole giant air temple alone. There was literally no counter to his lava bending
I was thinking the same except none of them can redirect lightning so iroh could possibly just 1 shot them. Without his lightning tho id def put bumi and jeong above him
I understand why Unalaq is here but considering that he betrayed the Red Lotus way before he even got his Dark Avatar powers, Aiwei would've deserved a spot on this list more than him.
how many of us forgot that unalaq was a red lotus member? I was expecting Xi Bou from the comics to be number one considering that he left the white lotus to start the red lotus.
At first i was like, how is Zaheer not number one, dude can literally fly But then i saw unalaq and remembered him and korras epic battle in republic city
Ich finde schon das Meister Piandro beeindruckende Fehkeiten hat, obwohl er kein Bändiger ist. Aber es sollten nur Bändiger im Ranking sein, denn ihre Kräfte sind doch einfach überwältigend.
The competition is fierce. Jeong Jeong could firebend as if Sozin's was always there (wall of fire over water). Bumi showed mastery in small and precise bending, quick adaptive bending, and colossal bending of earth. Toph and Bumi were all alone in that might as earth benders in the original series. Iroh didn't show the maximum output of Jeong Jeong, but he straight up invented new and useful styles that he didn't even need at the time. If Pakku goes up, someone has to go down. I know the official atla youtube is changing character rankings between lists. The top benders (any element) have a different order to the fire benders than the top fire bender ranking. So you can take all rankings with a grain of salt. My personal list would be 1. Bumi 2. Iroh 3. Pakku 4. Jeong Jeong 5. Piandao in when looking individually. If they are to cooperate I'd have 1. Iroh 2. Jeong Jeong 3. Pakku 4. Bumi 5. Piandao I do not have much confidence in Bumi as a collaborator. His persona impedes him. Piandao is left in the dust by the inequality of bending being something your born with. He is better than a lot of benders, but the top benders are in another league.
My favorite white lotus member is iroh he is a king generous man and he cares about his family he is wise and a great bender he helped the dragons he helped alot
Sorry, but Iroh is definitely overrated. Bumi has as much of a master title as Iroh does, but has way better feats. And how is p'li last. She's like 90% of the red lotus' power.
What I always found fascinating about Jeong Jeong is that he was a rare case of a bender who wasn’t happy with the element he could bend, resenting fire’s wild and destructive nature, and lamenting how Waterbending provided utility in healing.
How happy he’d have been to hear about the Firebending healing that was developed before Korra’s era.
Wait, there's firebending healing?? That's so cool!! Could someone please explain that to me, I've never heard of it before.
@Whimsical🌨 That's so cool!! Was that in the comics?
@@stephanievanderboom7145 No, In beginnings part 1, when Korra loses her memory, she was healed by fire sages of bhanti tribe (the same tribe Nyahitha belonged to in Kyoshi novels) recover her memory through firebending healing.
@@parthkadam3004 Ooooh right, I forgot about that. That's cool, thanks for telling me!
I wished he had met Ran and Shaw 🤔
King Bumi and Iroh were my favorites of the old generation. Bumi for his craziness and unpredictability. Iroh for his compassion, humility and Wisdom
And tea!
❤
It's interesting that there was no mention of Iroh's spiritual side or how he knew that to make a better bender without being the Avatar was to study like an Avatar and learn from the others, like how his study of waterbenders led him to develop the ability to redirect lightning.
Yes, I loved that aspect of the story. I mean, makes sense, given that the idea behind ATLA was balance. And the elements are all part and parcel with each other. But I also LOVED how this was shown on two levels, the mastery a regular bender achieves with a single element (or twoish) vs the mastery an avatar achieves.
All the pre-spirit world stuff where the avatars could connect to their past lives, the creativity with which they bend everything…on a whole mother scale. It was so cool!
He’s also the only one still alive on this hole list as he transcended his physical body. The dude was so spiritual he became a spirit.
@@kevind3974 zaheer?
@@trollivur1719 iroh
@@mamunrashid6404 ?
There will never be a moment when I see the scene where Zuko returns to Iroh, and Iroh lovingly accepts him back, that I don't get blurry-eyed. Best moment in all of avatar imo.
Iroh is the one and only goat
And bumi
And docm77
@@Alexman. bumi means earth
Agreed the moment when he started singing and then it showed his son I cried not very many things make me cry with that was truly a moment of reflection.
Iroh the reason I mostly drink tea today
Desna: There's certainly no way anyone's breaking out of here
The Red Lotus: *Are you sure about that?*
He was right though, she didn’t exactly break out, she was rescued.
2:16 When I first saw this scene, I thought that Azula was in that prison XD
I wish it was
I wanted to see How Korra would deal with a crazy firebender
It may have been made for her originally. Although I don’t think that’s true since she appears in the comics.
that some f jokes
she is voiced by azula however
@@projectunknown132 Because cartoon characters voice each other😌
YES OUR UNCLE IROH IS #1!
RIP Makoto Iwamatsu 🙏⚰💐
10:19-11:17 This reunion always 😢😭
When Zaheer is ranked below Unalaq:
*The Red Lotus has invited you to Laghima's Peak*
Wait hol up.
I mean... yeah? Zaheer was very talented and lethal, but Unalaq was literally an Avatar.
@@julycowboy2100 in that case, you better strip Aang and Korra of their additional 3 elements for these things.
Korra + Raava = Avatar Korra
Aang + Raava = Avatar Aang
Unalaq + Vaatu = Avatar Unalaq
@@julycowboy2100 Unalaq still experienced a power boost in waterbending when he became the Dark Avatar
Unalaq was an avatar in the just same way Wan was an Avatar - and you wouldn’t go ‘Wan wasn’t an Avatar’ would you?
@@lucasrobin2788 Unalock shouldn’t be considered a member of the red lotus, everything he did went against the beliefs members of the red lotus follow.
Just to make Unalaq more of the villain he's supposed to be, remember that this guy killed the Avatar Cycle and is the reason why we never saw Aang return for seasons 3 & 4.
It was necessary for the plot. Cause if that continued there was no way any villain could ever pose a threat to the avatar since they could take their bending away. And each avatar would get stronger and stronger every cycle cause they’ll have the knowledge and experience of more past avatars
I'm sorry no, P'li out classes Ming'wa everyday of the week. Combustion bending is volatile, but with the exception of lavabending and bloodbending, it is the powerful offensive bending disicpline. Mingwa made tentacles out of water. I know that's underplaying it but still, P'li always has to be taken out or distracted for the heroes to get the upper hand, the battle in Zao Foo, The air temple ambush, etc.
But p’li is like a double edge sword. If she isn’t truly focused while using her combustion, she can easily be taken out or have it used against her. Ming hua is a lot more agile and versatile.
Just imagine if Amon would have been a red lotus member...
He will be overpower.
Why woud he be a member? He could knock down any white or red lotus member instantly and take their bending away.
@@tomkostolom6559 not any
@@biddie6789 no one stands a chance against amon besides unalaaq
@@coyotestarrk9428 What could Unalaq do?
I think Ming Hua's water-bending special capabilities is how she control the water(that's the obvious one), also on how she harden it vice versa, and the surface tension.
Wrong, P’Li was the strong arm of the group, she could take on a group of metal benders alone, among them included Kuvira, Lin and Suyin, and she almost won. Also, when she was knocked out in Zaofu they lost. She’s extremely versatile and agile, never underestimate her.
P'Li was definitely skilled but she had the same glaring weakness that sparky boom man did. Which ultimately caused her downfall. Her combustion bending is as much a liability as it is a skill. she has to have an unbelievable amount of awareness so as to not either get hit...or get her face covered. As strong as she was, she was definitely the weak link of the Red Lotus.
It’s a popularity list not a real power scalers list
*SPARKY BOOM MAN>>>>>>>P'LI*
Nah, one hit in the eye and she's done.
Yeah I'd say she was the strongest from both side in actual combat
“You can’t knock me down”
*proceeds to get knocked down*
is it weird that i want to see an alternate timeline where Unalock becomes the dark avatar but nobody knows about it and he develops his bending overtime unnoticed and disguised in different nations? like just imagine how cool that fight between Korra and him would have been.
Iroh is literally the g.o.a.t
No wonder he had the title of The dragon of the west...
He was the best side character in the avatar series next to zuko
Zuko is definitely a main character. Where tf did you get side character from? And stop riding irohs meat so vigorously
side character? i thought he was a main one
He's overrated in combat
Both of them are my favorite heroes 💮 group and villains 🥀 group in my Avatar Franchise list
zaheer wasn’t nearly as strong as ming hua and ghazan
do you see him easily breaking through the 2nd safest city in the world?
He was there best fighter without bending. And mastered it in 1 month
Even tenzin post flight said he’s stronger than him
@@KaiserReb he never said that
@@pavanmulani9567 when his daughter wanted to help Korra he stated that zaheer is too powerful now. He’s mastered the highest form of air bending
@@KaiserRebbut he didn't say he can't beat him ,
Even with the flight Tenzin will still beat him
I will rate him as the weakest of them although his the leader
He was never an Airbending master
@@jamespattinson-so7fuI wonder if he learned chi blocking as a non bender in which could give him an advantage but probably not as it is never shown
I think gazan have 2nd place because he can lavabend as you said and that ability is so special
Flight is more rare than lava bending
I honestly want a combustion bender that is not evil! For some reason everytime we see a bender with this special ability they are villains!
I think ming hua is underrated, she's amazing fighter and she's without hands!
Yeah
The red lotus without the ladies wouldn’t be nearly as threatening, P’Li and Ming Hua should have been second and third respectively after Unalaq.
Agree
Zaheer? I think he can defeat MingHua and P`li.
Dude gazhan is the strongest. Dude did what the fire nation failed to achieve in 100 years (destroy the basing se wall) he also melted the whole giant air temple alone. There was literally no counter to his lava bending
is it true, bumi is 112 years old when he met aang at earth kingdom?
Yes they are at the same age but he was not in the iceberg
I love Iroh but he is definitely weaker than Jeong Jeong and Bumi.
He is an amazing character on his own but definitely not the strongest bender.
I was thinking the same except none of them can redirect lightning so iroh could possibly just 1 shot them. Without his lightning tho id def put bumi and jeong above him
Iroh 🍵 ☕️
Awesome list 👍👍
Aiwei counts as the red lotus right?
Yes, they forget about him
He is useless anyway
thanks for making this video
I understand why Unalaq is here but considering that he betrayed the Red Lotus way before he even got his Dark Avatar powers, Aiwei would've deserved a spot on this list more than him.
Where is metalbender from red lotus?
@Toph Beifong Yeahh
I forgot that unalaq was the member of red Lotus
Wow I did not no that bumi was that strong I know he was Old but still that's still I
mpressive
What is your favorite season in legend of Korra
Mine is the third one with Zaheer
Same
Same
5:20
*_"You are not ready! You are TOO WEAK!"_*
Number 1 should be Boomy the dude has 112 years old, and still has a 6 pack (edit. besides what is with mouth at 7:26 xD wth?)
I'm a huge fan!!
You guys should rank the members of Team Avatar from both teams. 👍🏼
how many of us forgot that unalaq was a red lotus member? I was expecting Xi Bou from the comics to be number one considering that he left the white lotus to start the red lotus.
Pli was put in a very cold like very cold prison to weaken her fire bending but zuko was just able to use firebending without a problem
Irons scene with zuko makes me tear up all the time
Is no one going to talk about how the White Lotus had 2 firebenders?😮
katara: you cant knock me down
literally 5 seconds later #3:14
First of all , one does not simply say Iroh without first adding Uncle before it. Secondly , cool video 😂
To be fair, he isn't attacking firebenders at 1:20 or they'd be blasting him with some comet-juice fire.
Bumi playing with mud and burying himself, his way of thinking and fighting are funny and interesting
for some reason i think P'Li is better than Ming hua and Zaheer is better than Unalaq (without Vaatu ofc)
When iron and Zuko meat back up makes me cry every time
6:41 fair point
The avatar book: 📕📗📘📙📔 If uncle iroh tried to capture the avatar: 📖
At first i was like, how is Zaheer not number one, dude can literally fly
But then i saw unalaq and remembered him and korras epic battle in republic city
jeong jeong was legit in creative mode
😂
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Ich finde schon das Meister Piandro beeindruckende Fehkeiten hat, obwohl er kein Bändiger ist. Aber es sollten nur Bändiger im Ranking sein, denn ihre Kräfte sind doch einfach überwältigend.
Sparky sparky boom man 😂😂😂😂
no Zaheer is the weakest in the RL. P'li is an absolute unit and easily the strongest in the red lotus. and Bumi > Iroh (fighting wise).
@Toph Beifong He isn't better as a character but I also believe he is a more powerful bender.
I agree on the P’Li part
Avatar series is epic
I don’t agree because number one red
For your next episode if it’s OK with your crew can you show their faces
Then, Amon took all their bendings away 😂
I completely forgot that Unalaq was a member of the Red Lotus.
well at the bottom of the white lotus is the nameless members, so every member is Kora and the flower shop member
Me too big fan
“I’m the most powerful earthbender you’ll ever see!”
*Toph has entered the chat*
No toph is melon lord
oh
P'li is 3 in red lotus for me but umm... ok
For me she’s 2nd
She actually said sparky sparky boom man
Sparky sparky boom man is a crazy fire bender that can shoot fire and bombs from his brain
I think Master Pakku should be higher, he fought off DOZENS of firebenders and tanks ALONE during Siege of The North
The competition is fierce.
Jeong Jeong could firebend as if Sozin's was always there (wall of fire over water).
Bumi showed mastery in small and precise bending, quick adaptive bending, and colossal bending of earth. Toph and Bumi were all alone in that might as earth benders in the original series.
Iroh didn't show the maximum output of Jeong Jeong, but he straight up invented new and useful styles that he didn't even need at the time.
If Pakku goes up, someone has to go down.
I know the official atla youtube is changing character rankings between lists. The top benders (any element) have a different order to the fire benders than the top fire bender ranking. So you can take all rankings with a grain of salt.
My personal list would be
1. Bumi
2. Iroh
3. Pakku
4. Jeong Jeong
5. Piandao
in when looking individually. If they are to cooperate I'd have
1. Iroh
2. Jeong Jeong
3. Pakku
4. Bumi
5. Piandao
I do not have much confidence in Bumi as a collaborator. His persona impedes him.
Piandao is left in the dust by the inequality of bending being something your born with. He is better than a lot of benders, but the top benders are in another league.
Agree Pakku should be #3 and Jheong Jheong should be #4
Iroh when tea is in danger
My favorite white lotus member is iroh he is a king generous man and he cares about his family he is wise and a great bender he helped the dragons he helped alot
Ming hua should be higher up
Yeah, gahazan should be number four
I really wasnt expecting unalaq to be one of the red lotus members
When Aiwei is the #1 red lotus member
when master piandao is also an undercover T1000
they did ming hua dirty fr
Piandao turned Genji-mode (from Overwatch)
actually lavabending is molten earth bending so its not either fire or water
Iroh 🙇♂
Lets not forget jeong jeong was able fly with firebending
Nice
This seems to rank them more on popularity than power, downplaying or hyping up several characters big time.
New animation of avatar plsssss
I always wait the next avatar after koora
Uncle iroh is the most powerful character, because even dou he was fire: rage… he harnessed LOVE
1:49 you do realize she’s probably the second strongest member of the red lotus right?
Bumi!
Pli should be the strongest
No its not iroh's immense wisdom its his love of tea
Hes definetly british
Chinese*
@@gabyspook6822 BRITISH
Whats the music in the background during Ming-Hua?
White lotus, Red lotus,
Big lotus, little lotus.
Iroh is always number 1
😂😂😂😂😂
🤣🤣👍
I forgot unalack was a red lotus member
Master Piandao is a non bender fire nation that makes swords ⚔️
Sorry, but Iroh is definitely overrated. Bumi has as much of a master title as Iroh does, but has way better feats. And how is p'li last. She's like 90% of the red lotus' power.
Yeah,bumi is better but Iroh is pretty powerful
Agree
shh, you will get the fandom mad
P'li didn't fight the metal clan on her own, for this level of disrespect.
@@aurelias4939 exactly
Piandao is right The sword that does not belong to one nation it can be longer to put the water tribe, the earth kingdom and the air nomads
I always imagine Toph as a white Lotu but in the LOK with her age, idk why
Watching avatar I loved uncle iroh
Lava bending is just like earth bending but only the pieces of rock are from made out of magma
Iroh was like my on screen dad
i wonder who would win in a battle, old bumi or young toph?
I love Iroh and I would definitely put him at #2 but without Sozin's comet, could he be more powerful than King Bumi?
Fun fact : ming Huas name in Chinese is 明花