Slate VSX: Hot or Hype?

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  • Опубліковано 7 чер 2023

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  • @dookieshoe2905
    @dookieshoe2905 Рік тому +363

    Judging from my shitty phone speaker I'd say A.

  • @joeyhochgesang1391
    @joeyhochgesang1391 Рік тому +202

    To me, the instruments seem more balenced and defined in mix A.

  • @socialist_mac_miller
    @socialist_mac_miller Рік тому +125

    Mix A is superior for sure

  • @craigsi16
    @craigsi16 Рік тому +80

    If mix A turns out to be the headphones I'm gonna turn into the living embodiment of the "shut up and take my money" meme so fast

    • @kirkholdegraver3218
      @kirkholdegraver3218 11 днів тому

      I own these since I don't have a mix room that is treated. I highly recommend VSX for the cost but mostly the mixes I get.

  • @Hellwilliam1
    @Hellwilliam1 18 днів тому +2

    Listened on headphones, too. Still both sound just fine.

  • @theviking8189
    @theviking8189 Рік тому +77

    I like mix A. Mix B seemed a little harsh in the top end, but hey, I've got horrible tinnitus, so more top end tends to suck for me. Great job as always, Glenn!

    • @clint68
      @clint68 Рік тому +1

      Agreed, my tinnitus brother!

  • @IcedForce
    @IcedForce Рік тому +49

    A is more balanced while B lacks the low end, so I say A is better.

  • @martijnvanderark4117
    @martijnvanderark4117 Рік тому +24

    B sound good for when you are a guitar player and you wanna hear yourself through everything. With vocals it would sound way too sharp and high and you wouldn’t get an even mix.
    A is definitely more balanced. You can hear everything and the bass and guitar sound better “glued” together. And really important there is room for bass

  • @steph_nyc
    @steph_nyc 3 місяці тому +7

    This is not what Slate claims. They never said : it's better than studio monitors. They said if your room is not treated like a professional studio, you can achieve a professional mix that translates perfectly everywhere with the help of their technology. Also a mix relies on the person's skills and personal taste. Put a professional mix engineer compared to a beginner, you won't get the same result. But can you get a perfect balanced mix with those headphones and the software? Yes, without a doubt.

  • @chunkuswumpus3515
    @chunkuswumpus3515 Рік тому +18

    Preferred mix A. Everything sat nice in its space. B had some extra fizzy high mids to my ear (not on the bestest headphones) that felt like it ended up as a lower quality mix but quite close

  • @bryonricketts385
    @bryonricketts385 Рік тому +18

    Mix A is definitely better.

  • @icksbocks
    @icksbocks Рік тому +8

    Listened to both mixes on studio monitors and on Sennheiser HD650 headphones. In both cases, I greatly preferred Mix A.

  • @Laserus
    @Laserus 7 місяців тому +4

    So what was the answer to this ?

  • @seankinsella4564
    @seankinsella4564 Рік тому +12

    B is on the headphones because the low end is stripped out and that tells me the bass was heavier in the headphones. And im judging this from 1 shitty cheap wireless earbud in my left ear

  • @Hellwilliam1
    @Hellwilliam1 18 днів тому

    Both sounded just fine.

  • @zool84
    @zool84 Рік тому +3

    For me mix A because to my ears seems fuller, less harsh and the guitar sits in the right place.

  • @thorolf8758
    @thorolf8758 Рік тому +2

    Mix A was FRICKIN KILLING IIIIIIT !!!

  • @doomslayer6566
    @doomslayer6566 Рік тому +3

    might wanna do this again glenn they just released v4 of vsx and it is night and day difference

  • @Noshimonoriku
    @Noshimonoriku Рік тому +1

    They're both pretty badass mixes. The first one is thicker. 🤷‍♂️

  • @irondarwin2483
    @irondarwin2483 Рік тому +6

    Doesn't really, its just uninspired, unoriginal crap either way.

  • @samuelcorbishley6016
    @samuelcorbishley6016 11 місяців тому +2

    Mix B has next to no bass, there is an unpleasant resonant thump in the snare drum, there's too much high-mids in the guitar making it sound boxy, and the cymbals have too much treble leading to the mix sounding piercing.

  • @HansonProductions112
    @HansonProductions112 Рік тому +1

    A is the winner for me.

  • @robjohnson5829
    @robjohnson5829 11 місяців тому +16

    Hi Glenn. Are we going to get a follow up on this? Thanks.

    • @ryanwylervids
      @ryanwylervids 3 місяці тому +4

      I’d like to know which one was mixed with VSX

  • @RichardTheWizard
    @RichardTheWizard Рік тому

    Both sound good.

  • @Zarag0d
    @Zarag0d 11 місяців тому +1

    It's so good that it sounds like you exported a well mixed track and then put a random "B" in the video 🤣

  • @nathancorrao8570
    @nathancorrao8570 11 місяців тому

    The first mix was nice

  • @leoharling1747
    @leoharling1747 Рік тому +1

    I liked Mix a more, every track clearly shone through and Had ITS space and glue in the mix

  • @JonnyTravieso
    @JonnyTravieso Рік тому +1

    mix a sounded better to me. I like the yellow font of mix b better though. 🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @raxusquin
    @raxusquin Рік тому +1

    I gotta go with A, however I could see where stylistically B could work.

  • @vincentpeer5188
    @vincentpeer5188 Рік тому +1

    Honestly, that’s a tough call. First pass was on my phone speaker. It was a clear win for A.
    Had to get some earbuds to check it out again. Seems like A has more low end, but B has more clarity. I think I actually prefer B. But I’d want to put some vocals to it and see how that goes.

  • @D34THC10CK
    @D34THC10CK Рік тому +1

    B seemed to have what I can only describe as a "wider" sound, whereas A seemed to be more mid focused. Both sounded great though, but IMO I'd use B for rhythm and A to track leads

  • @EndyBoye
    @EndyBoye Рік тому +2

    Mix A sounds more balanced. Mix B has harsher highs especially on the drums.

  • @Fishplants
    @Fishplants 7 місяців тому +1

    Mix A for phone
    Mix B for car

  • @phantasmich
    @phantasmich Рік тому +1

    I like the Mix B, I hear a bit more of the high end and the clank of the bass strings, sounds great

    • @WrapMasterLLC
      @WrapMasterLLC 2 місяці тому

      I thought that too.. the clarity is better ❤

  • @ezrabrown5978
    @ezrabrown5978 9 днів тому

    Mix A every instrument was standing by itself while Mix B the instruments got blended to fit the entire sound as a whole if that makes sense. Mix A is from the monitors while Mix B headphones

  • @Catywampus.Kerfuffle
    @Catywampus.Kerfuffle Рік тому

    They sounded close enough to my ears to have considering pulling the trigger on the VSX system. Considering my living arrangement has acoustic treatment and high volumes off the table, this is my best option to get the ball rolling.

  • @jakehills1402
    @jakehills1402 Рік тому

    Got to be the second one for me. The top end opens up a little better

  • @adamroycroft4455
    @adamroycroft4455 Рік тому

    Mix A sounds to have slightly more bottom end, while mix B is a little tighter. So I guess it comes down to reference, if the headphones accurately reproduce accurate bottom end or if they make too much or too little. Either way still great mixes.

  • @kotymccallister5150
    @kotymccallister5150 Рік тому +1

    Mix B has more clarity. Mix a is muddy in comparison. And I can only assume the headphones would pump more highs at your ears so you would have compensated by bringing them down so I think the one with the clarity is the studio monitors

  • @becknorland587
    @becknorland587 Рік тому

    First one for sure, second one seemed tinnier and I had more trouble picking out the instruments

  • @endlessminder9723
    @endlessminder9723 Рік тому

    B sounds like mixed on headphones😊

  • @Audioman45
    @Audioman45 Рік тому

    A had a better balance, but B had a brighter punch, which I personally like.

  • @danielnielsen6900
    @danielnielsen6900 Рік тому

    I don't know why but I really like the crispy highs in mix B

  • @WasabiKodai
    @WasabiKodai Рік тому +3

    Mix A definitely. The guitar seemed like it got lost in B.

  • @raybbaby
    @raybbaby Рік тому +1

    I liked A. I should add I am not a producer/engineer type AT ALL. The A mix just sounds quite a bit fuller and bigger to me. *shrugs

  • @Delamidas
    @Delamidas Рік тому

    On my headphones I liked mix A more. It was reminiscient of In Flames, one of my favourite bands. Cheers from Finland!🇫🇮

  • @Keshro
    @Keshro Рік тому

    Mix A preferred for me. Listened on Kali LP6 monitors.

  • @brownbreadinc127
    @brownbreadinc127 Рік тому

    B sounded clearer, but also lacked a bit of low end

  • @Hartlor_Tayley
    @Hartlor_Tayley Рік тому +2

    It’s hard to tell with without vocals or clean/acoustic instruments. If your mixing instrumental metal you have more options

    • @steph_nyc
      @steph_nyc 3 місяці тому +1

      Exactly...
      How can a professional sound engineer do this kind of clickbait videos...

  • @Fullhouse98LP
    @Fullhouse98LP Рік тому

    I liked both, the mix A was more clear to me in my headphones and more modern sounding, the B mix was more rough, raw, had more energy but sounded more like 20 years ago sound.

  • @antzztatic9481
    @antzztatic9481 Рік тому

    I like the A mix more, I can admit I know nothing of mixing, but I like being able to hear the guitar at least that's what it sounded like to me!

  • @splinkerton
    @splinkerton Рік тому

    Mixing in A was definitely clearer but mix B sounded a little heavier. Idk how to describe it

  • @neilfoodguy8667
    @neilfoodguy8667 10 місяців тому

    Mix a bit both sounded good

  • @lloydholley5396
    @lloydholley5396 19 днів тому

    Mix A kicks ASS!!! HANDS DOWN!!!!!

  • @AndrewFite
    @AndrewFite Рік тому

    Both mixes sound close to me, but Mix B seems to have some hot sauce on it. I'm having difficulty trying to explain why, but it seems more cohesive.

  • @memetime1784
    @memetime1784 10 місяців тому

    I preferred B. I’ve heard loads of mixes that sound like A, so B was just something new and interesting to me.

  • @robertdahlqvist5402
    @robertdahlqvist5402 21 день тому

    He must be half deaf, screaming at us 😂

  • @caerdwyn7467
    @caerdwyn7467 Рік тому

    Pretty dang similar, TBH. If I had to pick, I'd say mix B, by the thinnest of margins. Mix B seems to be very slightly brighter around 2-4k, which helps my old ears.

  • @CrashingJawls
    @CrashingJawls Рік тому

    A definitely

  • @dillonadelman2094
    @dillonadelman2094 10 місяців тому

    A hands down! Listened in car and on phone speakers. On A individual notes on the guitar were actually audible on the phone

  • @MrDingDong2
    @MrDingDong2 Рік тому

    On my HiFi, mix A was more alive, and had very much low-end, as compare to B which sounded flatter, narrower and more "digital". I preferred A.

  • @barrry9
    @barrry9 Рік тому

    I did it as a blind listen so I had no idea when the mixes switched over and also tried not to be ultra attentive in the listening (like the average listener!) VERY difficult to tell apart IMHO and I'd say I liked different aspects of both
    With a super attentive listen, I'd say Mix A is slightly better

  • @duanescott878
    @duanescott878 Рік тому +1

    Sounds the same on my phone speaker haha

  • @charlotteice5704
    @charlotteice5704 Рік тому

    I was only listening through my phone speaker, but judging by that, I prefer mix A. B has a harsher high end and the drums are so prominent that the guitars sound like background music for them. It reminds me of old school Swedish death metal's abrasive sound and it could work for that if the drums were a bit less promenant.

  • @rawkinj6609
    @rawkinj6609 Рік тому

    second one was brighter and nasal in the high mids...I think i like the first one!

  • @DANIELMENDOZA-mo6bg
    @DANIELMENDOZA-mo6bg Рік тому

    A is for me. ❤

  • @atrumluminarium
    @atrumluminarium Рік тому

    If I were a client and I got either mix, I'd be happy. However putting them side to side I'd pick A purely based on personal preference

  • @AngelPl4y3r
    @AngelPl4y3r Рік тому

    I mean they are different, A was balanced but flat, B was a harsh in the high end but definitely felt more dynamic.

  • @GreenCanoeb
    @GreenCanoeb Рік тому

    Guitar player here, missing 70dB & 50dB on the top end of my hearing so my opinion might not be very valuable, but I liked mix B better. Seemed to have a little more "presence.".

  • @mikesmith1290
    @mikesmith1290 Рік тому

    A sounds fuller, and more professional. It wouldn’t surprise me if A was done on those headphones

  • @jeremiahdaluperit4026
    @jeremiahdaluperit4026 Рік тому

    Mix A sounds crisp and clean to me where mix B sounds slightly muted

  • @arthurnunez970
    @arthurnunez970 13 днів тому

    I liked the first mix 🤷‍♂️

  • @BrendanMiranda
    @BrendanMiranda 11 місяців тому

    I’m gonna guess A is the Adam monitors mixed with an ear that uses them in the same studio space all the time, and B is the VSX with a different room than you’re used to and a short adjustment period

  • @brendanfineran3612
    @brendanfineran3612 Рік тому

    I like mix A more (just by listening on phone speakers). Seemed more balanced to me. the high end in mix B sounds a little harsh. Mixing can be done on headphones you just gotta know what to compensate for/adjust for when listening to them. Have I tried to do this: yes. Have I failed: every single time yes

  • @ingokolb6871
    @ingokolb6871 Рік тому

    a for adams because of the pronounced highs they put out, that wouldnt allow for a harsh mix like b

  • @cjstevensonmusic1642
    @cjstevensonmusic1642 Рік тому

    A for sure 👌

  • @shaunwise7653
    @shaunwise7653 Рік тому

    I prefer A through my speakers and headphones. B was too scooped for me and the highs were to harsh for this style.

  • @coreyrramsay8858
    @coreyrramsay8858 Рік тому

    I love Mix A. The 2nd one seemed a bit thin? Lacking punch?

  • @daveleblanc3558
    @daveleblanc3558 Рік тому

    Mix A for me too.

  • @kangazkorva5674
    @kangazkorva5674 Рік тому

    (A) for sure! And I guess, it might be explained by the fact, that the most of headphones have a bass frequency boost. So during the mixing process we will natively compensate it, am I wrong? 🤷‍♂️
    Huh… that gives me new idea, though! I hate senheiser headphones, because they have really annoying shift to the high frequency (to my taste). So maybe they are good for mixing but not for listening? Would be great to see other point of view 🤔

  • @gravelrhoads
    @gravelrhoads Рік тому

    Mix B sounds brighter to me, but I'm hard pressed to say which I prefer. They sound very close to one another.

  • @Lumerdrums
    @Lumerdrums Рік тому

    I think A sounds more clean. B has something more brutal sounding in it tho, and I like that too :D

  • @chanceperez5038
    @chanceperez5038 Рік тому

    After listening, is double times, mix A is more well-balanced, and has more low end. Which leads me to believe that mix A was mixed with the Adam monitors. Mix B is more pronounced in the upper mid range area. But lacking balance from lack of lows. Which always happens when I mix with headphones.

  • @christianokami2220
    @christianokami2220 Місяць тому

    Mix A was done on monitors

  • @tschaggon
    @tschaggon Рік тому

    I like the A version better, the guitars in B were too dark for my taste. But the mix was great either way.

  • @chrisbaltazar7164
    @chrisbaltazar7164 Рік тому

    I’d say it’s possible to mix in either. Depends how you developed your mixing ears. I’ve met some guys who have solid mixing and mastering but did it in headphones and others who’ve done it in speakers.
    I did mine in headphones and a laptop because of my roommates and bleeding noise plus the room quality ain’t the best to mix in. And if I need to mix in a different environment I always had that option.

  • @unhuman3781
    @unhuman3781 Рік тому

    I definetly like mix a more, it seems more relaxed in the highs and a bit more balanced mids. Die high mids to highs in b sound a bit more piercing

  • @jtech011ify
    @jtech011ify 2 місяці тому

    yes

  • @francobuzzetti9424
    @francobuzzetti9424 Рік тому

    I'd say mix A is speakers cause it sounds more like i remember your mixes sounding , didn't notice anything standing out in any of them, they were just different in the balance

  • @MrOpaquelens
    @MrOpaquelens Рік тому

    My mixes have improved since using VSX. I reckon they were used on mix A because my results come out beefier.

  • @wojciechrokosa1395
    @wojciechrokosa1395 Рік тому

    I prefer mix b as you have a clearer separation between kick/bass and guitar. Not good for vocals but that's not the assigned task.

  • @noodlegts
    @noodlegts 4 місяці тому

    I'm listening on my KRK monitors and I prefer Mix A. It sounds more well rounded to me. Mix B has some harsh top end stuff I wasn't hearing in A.

  • @8KilgoreTrout4
    @8KilgoreTrout4 Рік тому

    I seem to have more even clarity on A, however when I’m listening with my eyes closed I cannot tell when the A/B switches. I had to look to see that B was playing.
    So pretty much have the most unreliable opinion 😅

  • @metallicafan3124
    @metallicafan3124 Рік тому

    honestly couldn't tell the difference from my laptop speakers. From my AT 30s, I prefer mix A. The mids in mix B sound a bit too scooped

  • @FuzzWoof
    @FuzzWoof Рік тому +1

    Definitely A after listening to it on a few different things. B felt like it lost all the weight from the mix.

  • @ricksanchezito8972
    @ricksanchezito8972 Рік тому

    It's close, but I'd pick A.

  • @Tony-zp8xn
    @Tony-zp8xn Рік тому

    Mix A. Seemed more hi-fi, while Mix B seemed to lack a certain depth. I listened on Edifier MR4 monitors in both monitor mode and multimedia mode, and with Boom3D set to both the windows preset and the flat preset.
    On the windows preset, the difference was more noticeable. On the flat preset, you could still hear a difference between A and B, but it didn't seem as drastic.
    Also, gave a listen on some OneOdio Monitor 80 open back headphones, once again with Boom3D on the windows preset and the flat preset, and again the difference wasn't drastic when set to flat, but Mix A was still more hi-fi sounding than Mix B.

  • @mrcuracao
    @mrcuracao Рік тому

    I like B Better I personally find I can hear each instrument individually better in the mix!!? But what do I know? Just have fun peace and Love!

  • @kammuri666
    @kammuri666 Рік тому

    I'll go for Mix B. The bass sounds clearer to me.

  • @Thatduckolope
    @Thatduckolope Рік тому +1

    Mix A by far. That’s your studio monitors.