It was an absolute pleasure to share the training floor with Jesse Enkamp. He is an excellent technician, great training partner to work with and a very nice person too.
Loved that you allowed Jesse to try the applications of the kata on you. So many instructors are "above" doing that. You seem like a really good instructor!!
The instructor is one of the best instructors I've ever seen. The way he explains everything is so clear and concise. I'm only a purple belt but I feel like I could have done everything he explained
I've taught TKD, and it's always a pleasure to see a truly excellent instructor. Exactly as you said. It makes everything to straight forward. It gives you the pieces you need to genuinely do it well, and with no wasted words. Takes years of hard work and humility to carry that kind of excellence. Fantastic to see.
@@KARATEbyJesseTaekwondo and Tang Soo Do are both Korean Karate and are pretty much the same art just with different names just like Yudo,Judo and Sambo.Jeet Kune Do and Jeet Kune Do Unlimited.
Jeet Kune Do is the original MMA mixed in with street fighting plus effective self defense tactics. Use what works for you and throw out all that does not, and be like water so that you can adapt to the situation you’re in. (Fun fact) Bruce Lee’s favorite move is the finger jab to the eye, whaaa!!
really the culprit there is pat johnson, also known as the ref in karate kid 1. he trained in tang soo do, and was the fight choreographer for karate kid, so especially cobra kai, is basically tang soo do kicks.
As a TSD practitioner I was so excited to see “Korean Karate” in the title and then find out you are trying out legit Tang Soo Do! I’ve said for some time that TSD is closer to Japanese/Okinawan karate than it is to Tae Kwon Do and I’m glad you saw the similarities as well.
The Poomsa/Tul are more closely related to Karate but the motions and strikes are VERY close to TKD. TSD is a precursor to TKD if I am correct, also the only real difference is the that TSD is more hand driven where TKD utilizes kicking.
唐手道 would be pronounced Táng shǒu dào by Chinese, Tang Soo Do by Koreans, and Karate Do by Japanese. same Chinese characters. Literally means Tang Hand Way. Tang here means Tang Dynasty China. or Great Tang Empire. Surname of ruling family of Tang Dynasty was "Li" sometimes transliterated as "Lee".
@@eoghanmyers2330 If you go into the history of TaeKwonDo, basically few Koreans under Japanese Occupation went to Japan and learned Okinawan Karate, and came back to Korea to open Dojo's. When Japanese surrendered after WW2, Dr. Syngman Rhee became the president of South Korea, and these Karate practitioners demonstrated their skills in front of President Rhee. After seeing the martial art, Dr. Rhee thought it was TAEKKYON, an actual traditional Korean martial art that he saw when he was young, and called it as such. Since anti-Japanese sentiment was great after the liberation, these Karate practicioners decided to change the name and TAEKKYON gave them an idea. and they came up with similar sounding name of TaeKwonDo. ie, TaeKwonDo is basically modified version of Karate, and has no relationship with TAEKKYON, which is actual traditional Korean martial art.
@@davidjacobs8558 Taekkyon by all accounts was never a real martial art but a Korean folk game. After the creation of TKD, Koreans needed something to prove that they have genuine martial arts which are unrelated to Japanese martial arts so they created the myth of the ancient martial art of Taekkyon.
I like this sensei! He doesnt talk too much or get sidetracked easily when explaining things like alot of mcdojo ppl do. He's advice is straight-to-the-point and easy to understand
Same. I've just started it in february of this year and man is it a challenge for my out of shape ass but it's been great for getting me active again. Testing for my yellow belt on the 18th 😰
Thank you, Jesse! You continually step out of your comfort zone. A great role model for traditional and modern martial arts. Discipline, humor, and always demanding excellence! Thanks again, I love it!
I always love how the masters you show in your videos are so respectful with others martial arts as you do. That shows how this master love and respect the martial arts, instead of blame on others. Respect sensei.
@@AMLagonda to be fair its a mix of a lot of styles. the style i train is rather complete in my opinion. going over striking as well as takedowns, some grappling, and boxing on some nights. the gym i go to in many cases can be considered an mma gym with karate as its basis.
@@AMLagonda it's not a mix of tang soo do. TSD came before TKD. Think about how BJJ came out of Judo which came from Jujitsu. TKD came out of TSD which came from Shotokan.
I studied Tang Soo Do from about 9- 15 years old and loved every minute of it (leaving wasn't my choice). I even have a picture of me and Grandmaster Shin during a retreat. It really was like a family.
I'm so happy to see this episode! I'm a student of GM Dale Drouillard, the first American to earn a Dan under GM Hwang Kee. I owe my love of martial arts to TSD MDK. Thank you for covering it!
I really enjoyed that as a student of Tae Kwon Do, I really appreciate the teaching style of the instructor teaching technique for executing the kicks regarding body mechanics. Great work as always Mr Encamp. 👊🏼
I have been a member of the WTSDA for 28 years now, the association Jesse trained with for this video. I have to say, it was pretty awesome seeing some familiar faces. I know Jesse had a hard class, especialliy if it was Master Homschek who was teaching the majority of it. Tang Soo.
I agree. This was super exciting to watch, plus the realization that it was Master Homschek! I've been training TSD for 12 years and have even gotten the chance to learn from him a couple of times. Super cool video to see
As someone who has been practicing Tang Soo Do for the last 20 years, it’s cool to see it featured in this way and shown respect by Jesse! Thanks for this video!
Tang Soo Do Sweden and our local club in Täby not only enjoyed the visit by some fantastic US Masters of the WTSDA. The visit by Jesse to Master Marcko’s dojang and members was a fabulous treat. Jesse really showed true interest in everything we did. He’s not only an excellent Karateka but quite the gentleman!
Jesse is always humble whenever he is at other Martial Arts dojo/dojang. Can't wait to see Jesse visiting any ITF Taekwon-Do dojang! It would certainly be awesome😄🥋💪🏻
I've done various karate, jujitsu, and tkd over the course of almost two decades. That instructor was a pleasure to watch in his explanations. Clear instructions with a clear "why is don't that way and how to achieve it" explanations.
I have been a TKD practitioner since 1972. An instructor since I was 19. TKD was called Korean Karate back then. There were grabs, sweeps, some throws and joint locks. About 60% kicks. Power was really emphasized. The idea of ending a fight with one shot, but throwing in combination. Hard sparring at the end of every class too. I am curious as to why no sparring was shown here? The TSD head instructor was quite good btw.
I started in tkd then eventually switched to an old school style of tkd and I noticed that the majority of the forms and movements we practiced were the exact same. Our master was nearing his 60s by then, which leads me to believe that tkd and tsd may have diverged fairly recently.
@@chunkyunun7434 They diverged at different times for different instructors. A lot of instructors previously taught arts under different names, but rebranded under Tae Kwon Do in response to the Korean government's push to unify their martial arts. TSD was the most prolific, but there were teachers from other lineages doing the same. A lot of instructors made the switch over the course of the 60s to 70s, but for some, it meant transitioning to the standardized Tae Kwon Do forms, while others transitioned to teaching under the Tae Kwon Do banner while keeping the same forms.
@@maxhensley1685wait, so Tang Soo Do & Tae Kwon Do are essentially the same art? I thought TSD was adapted from Okinawan Te & TKD had purely Korean roots.
@@mariorodriguezjuniori am 3rd degree tkd black belt, and i must say that it is almost identical. From what i've seen, tang soo do forms are different just like said in the video. But for the techniques, philosophy and basis the're the same. Because of the olympics, tkd has become almost fully sport oriented, instead of an effective martial art, to the point that joint locks, takedowns, grabs and punch strikes are nearly not used in standard tkd training nowadays
I am currently an inactive practitioner, but I advanced to 2nd degree before I went to college. It's nice to see this video and I'm glad you had a great experience with my style. Seeing you try it makes me miss it!
Would love to see Jesse do a video on Soo Bahk Do, always seemed like the most complete Korean karate style while maintaining the most traditional roots out of them as well.
I’ve done Shotokan for over ten years and did Tang Soo Do for a little while after I got my black belt in the former. It surprised me at the time how similar they both were. I think that the Korean style that comes closest to Shotokan is Soo Bahk Do.
Soo Bahk Do is not more than a name change and an change of emphasis from the original Tang Soo Do curriculum. Many people had left the Tang Soo Do Moo Duk Kwan for political reasons (such as WTSDA, the association in this video), and HC Hwang (son of Hwang Kee) wanted to create a separate identity, so the name change came in the late 90s after the 50th Anniversary. They still do the same forms, but they have shifted their emphasis in many ways. No contact free sparring, an emphasis on the forms created by Hwang Kee and not the traditional Okinawan forms, how to generate power for techniques, etc.
Tae Kwon Do, which came from Tang Soo Do, was my first art starting at 9 years old and I absolutely loved it. It gave me really great kicking technique. After concentrating on wrestling in high school, I switched to Goju Ryu after I graduated, which developed my hand technique, then in in my early 20's in about 2008, I found a traditional Japanese Jujutsu/Judo dojo, and I've trained exclusively there since. I still practice my tae kwon do and karate on my own though. And I loved seeing that Shiho Nage (one of my favorite jujutsu throws) thrown in there! It reminded me of the little bit of Hapkido we did from time to time in Tae Kwon Do.
I learned Tang Soo Do from both the Chung Do Kwan and Moo Duk Kwan lines. I received my first dan from Grand Master Duk Sung Son who was the second president of Chung Do Kwan. After receiving my 2nd dan, I joined a Moo Duk school because I wanted to do full contact sparring. There is so much to learn from both styles. Chung Do taught me how to kick ungodly hard, while Moo Duk taught me how to spar. Dang man. Tang Soo Do is just fun. Korean martial arts in general are just fun.
Don't forget also, Cobra Kai is Tang Soo do. Having trained for a good while in TSD, I loved this video. Though we also learned techniques from other martial arts that my kwanjangnim knew very well. Still not exactly sure if the ridge hand technique is Tang Soo Do or not; always preferred that over the knife hand.
In my tae kwondo dojang we use both knife hand and ridge hand. In the system I study, all techniques - even blocks - can be strikes - so we use both knife hand and ridge hand as strikes. But so far I've never seen ridge hand used as a block, only a strike; knife hand can block and strike.
"Karate", which originated from Okinawa, and "Okinawa" originated from Chuck Norris. And he puched a white crane or something. Ipso facto Chuck Norris=Karate
I'm actually doing taekwondo for college while coming from a karate background. I've doing my own training in my own time and I always thought that both martial arts are amazing compliments to each other despite cultural differences. Amazing video like always Jesse! Never stop learning.
I greatly admire how humble you are as a person, as well as your willingness to be a student all over again. We are all lifetime students. Never stop learning.
I feel you, Jesse. I was confused by the korean terms when I, a shotokan karateka, started oldschool Taekwondo (as taught by grandmaster Kwon). Also, so many moves are similar but, to make it more of a challenge, not identical to karate.
Very interesting, as usual with Jesse. And Jesse is so nice, humble, curious and professional, that it sure inspires his audience to be a better person, not just a better fighter. Love this guy, really.
I used to think that Tang Soo Do was simply Korean Shotokan. But now I see that Tang Soo Do is closer to karate's Okinawan roots (and therefore to its Chinese roots) than Shotokan.
I study Tang Soo Do and my wife was a Shotokan instructor for many years - there are definitely lots of similarities, especially in hyungs/katas, but in practice a lot of the focuses are different. Like they mentioned, we're a lot more kick focused in Tang Soo Do, and generally a little faster/lighter than Shotokan, which seems to focus a lot more on power. (at least in our region!)
My son is a black belt and instructor in Tang Soo Do and studied 4:43 Jujutsu. He went from a couch potato to instructor. I would recommend that for anyone.
It is interesting to look at the subtle change from Shorin Ryu to Shotokan to Tang Soo Do ! There is a direct link ; the character / culture of Korea shaped their arts . Kicking someone in the head had much more class than kicking in the groin !
This was awesome! I studied Tang Soo Do for a number of years as a youth. I recognized the forms you were doing, even having been out of it for as long as I have been. 😊
Much like Karate, this style should also be a descendant of Fujian White Crane, IIRC the name does translate to "Chinese hand" much like the pre-1930s reading of 唐手 (Tode).
@@brandonwells1175 AFAIK, all of the original 5 gwans of Korean martial arts from the early 40s were founded by people who studied under Funakoshi. Not all of them admit it, because of the collaborationist stigma. TSD wasn't one of the 5 original gwans, but I heard it grew out of or was associated with 무덕관, a style most prevalent in the southwest of the Korean peninsula.
yes. it writes with the same chinese characters, tang soo do is the korean reading of toudedo Okinawans use the word "hand" in the same way we use the word "tongue" to say language, we use the part of the body that we use to make a thing to name that thing. The Okinawans use the word for mouth instead of tongue for language though. So tode really means "chinese martial arts"
This was a very interesting summary on Tang Soo Do, You showed the basics of the moves, philosophy and history in a short video, with great respect and kept it interesting! I had only heard of it, but now I know the basic story and can recognize the style. Congratulations on the video!
A work colleague of mine was a third grade black belt Tang Soo Do practitioner; and her daughter was only 12 years old when she was awarded her first grade black belt. She nearly always referred to it as Korean karate. Interestingly, however, during a black belt only session, her teacher, a 7th grade, told them that none of them would last long in a street fight.
The more you can do without thinking the better chance you have. The only people that consistently do well in street fights are those that street fight often.
That is misconception, IMO. People say that "people who practice Muay Thai or Jiu Jitsu will be better prepared for a street fighter" but, in the end, it's more a personal attitude than actually only techniques. In a real fight you will need to deal with a lot of things, and that's is dificult to prepare you. IMO depends if you practice fight in your dojo, if you do you will be prepared for a fight, even if you willl have a lot of protections.
Mindset has a lot to do with it. I trained Tang Soo Do off and on during middle school and high school. My technique was decent. but I would have gotten clobbered during an actual fight since I was small (not enough power behind my strokes), I didn’t know how to grapple, and I lacked the necessary aggression required to intentionally harm people.
Tang Soo Do is basically a Korean version of Shotokan Karate. The Japanese occupied Korea for a good part of the early 20th Century. They only allowed Japanese Martial Arts to be practiced. Various Koreans studied one version or another of Japanese Karate (Tang Soo Do is the Korean word for Karate). Hwang Kee depending on who you listen to either studied under Funakoshi. Or read his book and copied the forms. For example the Pinan forms of Karate are the same forms Tang Soo Do practices. Along with Bassi, Chinto, etc.. For a long time after liberation from the Japanese the Koreans wanted nothing to do with anything Japanese. Their were supposedly some native Korean arts that emphasized kicking (Tae Kyun or Soo Bak Do). Tang So Do is a variation of Shotokan with more of an emphasis on kicking. As Tang So Do transitioned it took on a flavor of it’s own. But again like most styles of Karate it had it’s roots in the Martial Arts that were introduced to Japan from Okinawa. Tang Soo Do is like Shorin Ryu, Shinto Ryu, Wado Ryu, is a stylistic change of Shotokan. No cut to Tang Soo Do. It is as good as the above mentioned arts. But stories of its origin that were told to us in the 1960’s were for the most part fabrications.
I trained at a chuck norris UFAF (United fighting arts federation) school to begin with. One of my instructors was in a few Walker episodes. All commands were in english. The footwork was different than other local TSD schools. One of the kata (UFAF1)was considered a fighting form and featured slide-up, step through and step behind movement mixed with jabs and reverse punches. They slowly integrated bjj curriculums , Krav Maga. Even the sport acrobatic forms started popping up in their schools. In the early 90’s the style was called Chun Kuk Do. It reverted back to the chuck norris system a few years back.
As a Tang Soo Do practitioner I'm happy to see some more quality videos covering our art. Having studied a little Tae Kwon Do (Jhoon Rhee) and Shotokan. I've always seen Tang Soo Do (Moo Duk Kwan Lineage) as being in between the two, but definitely closer in technique and philosophy to the Japanese/Okinawan karate. On a historical note The term Tang Soo Do (唐手道) is a generic term for Way of the China [Tang] hand and when read in Japanese would read as Karate-do. Being generic many of the original Korean Kwans referred to themselves as Tang Soo Do. I think of these various Kwans as "Ryu" is thought of in japanese karate. Eventually most of these Kwans were consolidated into the amalgamation that is Tae Kwon Do. Today, though when MOST people refer to Tang Soo Do, they are referring Hwang Kee's Moo Duk Kwan Tang Soo Do. Though a few of the other Kwans will also use term Tang Soo Do (such as Jidokwan), they are slightly different. (confused yet?) While Hwang Kee resisted the unification, some of his students did combine with Tae Kwon Do, so you may see Moo Duk Kwan Tae Kwon Do. You may also see Soo Bahk Do, which is what Hwang Kee changed the name of his system to in the 70's-80's while incorporating more Chinese/soft elements into his system. So Moo Duk Kwan (the -ryu) may be Tae Kwon Do, Tang Soo Do, or Soo Bahk Do. Over time they have diverged between each other. Of those three, Moo Duk Kwan Tang Soo Do seems to hold the closest to Japanese karate.
My kids do Goju-Ryu (for about 11 years), I've taken some classes with them. I do Tang soo Do and, in my Marine Corps days I saw karate in Naha Okinawa and Korean Karate demonstrated in Suwon (near Seoul). The styles and teaching methodology are so different that a lot of my Tang Soo Do training interferes with the Goju-Ryu I'm trying to learn. I've found them to be strikingly dissimilar.
@@shawnveltheim1688 Yea, I did a summer in Kenpo and someone that switched from Goju-Ryu was my instructor. He said it had a lot of similarities but Kenpo was very circular with a lot of soft striking. I switched to TSD after that summer and it was very different, with a focus on straight, powerful attacks. The instructor in this video was excellent.
Chuck Norris and I actually had the same teacher, Jae Joon Kim. Our style was Moo Duk Kwan, Tang Soo Do. Master Kim taught me at his school in Flint, Michigan. I was honored to be invited to his grandson's birthday celebration.
It was really cool seeing the instructor point something out and then seeing you do it …. And actually noticing right away the difference as a non practitioner
Sorry Jesse I'm already a member subscriber 😁, you enjoy the water ..... I'm good. 🙂👍🏾🥇🥋 Also may I say your form is perfect. 👌🏾 Your spirit in adapting to different styles is extraordinary, good job. 🥋🥇
There's a unique style in Korea called Taekkyeon which really looks like a folk dance, however it has these kicks that really doesn't resemble Taekwondo. Check it out.
My father/ and my own style, Jidokwon, is very similar to Tang Soo do and was primarily founded in the US by Henry Cho. Cho ran the all American tournament in NYC which Bruce Lee and Chuck Norris regularly attended. Jidokwon is almost identical to shotokan and have even less jumping kicks than TSD. The style was eventually incorporated into TKD but to be honest I think it was more accurate to call it Korean karate. Thanks for this video Jessie!
As a Tangsoodoka, I really appreciate this video. Many dojos/dojangs are different and so is the use of Japanese or Korean terminology. Most Tang Soo Do schools in the US remind me of how Sensei Seth runs things
Very good overview of Tang Soo. I’ve trained for 33 yrs and have reached 5 the degree black belt Master. I love it and at 71 still train two to three days per week.
Nice video. I got my start in Tang soo do under the same organization in America. If it wasn’t for TSD I honestly don’t know where I would be in life it’s teachings both in mind and body has shaped me into the man I am today.
Oh, I thought it was taekondo for a sec when I saw the thumbnail. But it is an interesting martial arts. It seems like Koreans really mixed with their own kicks and punches.
Moo duk kwan splitted in two when Hwang Kee wanted to do his own thing and the other side joined to form the Kukkiwon Taekwondo. So the two arts have the same history. Also in Finland and Denmark (at least) we have a family of kukkiwon taekwondo clubs whose master is from moo duk kwan and we train pyung ahn (pinan) forms.
@@KARATEbyJessethe politics in Taekwondo from origin to now are fascinating. From spies to kidnappings to money laundering and fraud and the divide of North and South Korea. It could make a fascinating Documentary.
Yes, there are many similarities with Karate. The oldest forms being similar to Karate’s is not an accident but an influence of the Japanese martial arts. I do Taekwondo and there are schools of different traditions within that as well.
Agreed. The WT taekwondo that I practice is from the jidokwan line, and we try (as much as possible) to keep some of the traditional aspects rather than succumbing fully to the “sportification” of taekwondo. There’s some bunkai (application), but even within our style a lot is lost in time since the teachers only took what they had learned from karate and made due
I took tang soo do classes as a kid in Southern California and absolutely loved it. The intensity level of sparring was delightful, as the art prioritizes tempo and initiative! I had to start back as a white belt in tae kwon do when my family moved to Oklahoma, and I was a holy terror on the sparring floor because I'd spent a couple years learning fight mechanics from a naturally aggressive vantage. I love this art. It's a blast.
The Chinese characters are 唐手道, which are the original Chinese characters that the Ryukyu masters used for Karate. Moo Duk Kwan 武德會 which was founded by Hwang Kee 黃琦 was the largest Tang Soo Do organization among the 5 or so organizations. Some of his students refused the change of name to Taekwando and retained Tang Soo Do. Hwang Kee, liked Mas Oyama, lived in Manchuria when young and supposedly learned various Chinese styles like Taiji and 18 Hamds. The most popular styles in Manchuria was Chuo Jiao, Baji, and Tongbei.
Grew up training at Sherman Oaks Karate in L.A (Ball Wall & Norris's Dojo). I found tournaments stressful as a kid, but that environment made me into a lifer. I'm an old man now... still training and loving it.
Thanks for all your great video‘s dear Jesse. I practise Tang Soo Do 28 years now ( in the netherlands). The atmosphere and vibes are exactly the same. TSD is the traditional martial art where TKD is made from.
I just started Tang Soo Do 3 weeks ago so i’m obviously still a white belt & my dojang is affiliated with the Independent Tang Soo Do Association. I’m very much enjoying it right now & it’s cool to see someone using my style on UA-cam
I love how you try other styles and make good videos showing your experience in trying them. Too many UA-camrs make negative videos on things they have never even tried.
As a lifelong Karateka, I've always enjoyed learning what brief snippets of other styles and this is the first time I've heard of the whole difference between height and distance. That makes so much sense and definitely something I'm putting into my training.
This is incredible! Thank you for sharing this video. I've been watching all your videos and they are so well documented and informative. I've been looking for a path.. a journey. and your videos has helped me find what I was looking for. thank you so much!
Yes! When I tell people I have a black belt in Tang Soo Do people just look at me as if I didn't know how to say Taekwondo. Thank you for making a video about the martial art I practiced 🙏🏽
More than 20 years ago I did 5 years of Tang Soo Do and received my First Dan black belt. I left when I moved out of the area. I regret not staying and going up to a 3rd Dan. Loved the sparring and learn more when sparring against big opponents since I am short.
Something ironic about Tang Soo Do (당수도) is that it's much more popular/common outside of Korea than in it. I live in Cheongju (a city of 850-875,000 people). The nearest Dojang of 당수도 that I found on a Korean navigation/mapping app are in cities 1.5 hours away by car in good traffic in other provinces. Whereas back in the US, you can find some for it in practically any city.
Enjoyed watching it. Thank you so much for going around exploring different martial arts and sharing your experience and knowledge with the rest of us around the world. Respect!!! 🤟
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Jesse I am a white belt in karate and my biggest issue is I don't know how to ki on command, is there any tips you have?
Rule-wise, is it just like Shotokan?
It was an absolute pleasure to share the training floor with Jesse Enkamp. He is an excellent technician, great training partner to work with and a very nice person too.
Thank you for sharing your time, experience and expertise with me and my viewers! 🙏
Tang Soo, sir. It was awesome seeing familiar and friendly faces on this video. Jesse did an awesome job
Yoooo those kicks you were throwing was awesome! I hope I’m moving like that when I’m older! Really badass!
It was good to see you there, sir! TANG SOO!!!
Loved that you allowed Jesse to try the applications of the kata on you. So many instructors are "above" doing that. You seem like a really good instructor!!
The instructor is one of the best instructors I've ever seen. The way he explains everything is so clear and concise. I'm only a purple belt but I feel like I could have done everything he explained
I've taught TKD, and it's always a pleasure to see a truly excellent instructor. Exactly as you said. It makes everything to straight forward. It gives you the pieces you need to genuinely do it well, and with no wasted words. Takes years of hard work and humility to carry that kind of excellence. Fantastic to see.
Jesse can never say Okinawa without saying the birth place of karate😂❤❤
Ever since he spared with sensei Seth I’ve noticed and can’t help but laugh
It’s only because sooo many people think it’s Tokyo 😂
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Well, does anyone ever say Pirate Roberts without saying The Dread?
@@KARATEbyJesseTaekwondo and Tang Soo Do are both Korean Karate and are pretty much the same art just with different names just like Yudo,Judo and Sambo.Jeet Kune Do and Jeet Kune Do Unlimited.
Tang Soo Do, the style practiced by Terry Silver in Karate Kid III and Cobra Kai! Amazing! 🐍🥋
They actually practiced a cheaper style known as Plone soo Dang.
It is also the style which practiced by William Zabka aka Jhonny Lawrence in the Karate Kid 1 and the Cobra Kai series in Netflix
Jeet Kune Do is the original MMA mixed in with street fighting plus effective self defense tactics.
Use what works for you and throw out all that does not, and be like water so that you can adapt
to the situation you’re in. (Fun fact) Bruce Lee’s favorite move is the finger jab to the eye, whaaa!!
@@josephdioneda2881The Karate the Cobra Kai demonstrate in KK1 looks very different (better) than the karate in Cobra Kai tv show.
really the culprit there is pat johnson, also known as the ref in karate kid 1. he trained in tang soo do, and was the fight choreographer for karate kid, so especially cobra kai, is basically tang soo do kicks.
As a TSD practitioner I was so excited to see “Korean Karate” in the title and then find out you are trying out legit Tang Soo Do! I’ve said for some time that TSD is closer to Japanese/Okinawan karate than it is to Tae Kwon Do and I’m glad you saw the similarities as well.
seems relatively close to ITF taekwon-do but with Kata from karate rather than Tul
The Poomsa/Tul are more closely related to Karate but the motions and strikes are VERY close to TKD. TSD is a precursor to TKD if I am correct, also the only real difference is the that TSD is more hand driven where TKD utilizes kicking.
唐手道 would be pronounced Táng shǒu dào by Chinese, Tang Soo Do by Koreans, and Karate Do by Japanese.
same Chinese characters. Literally means Tang Hand Way.
Tang here means Tang Dynasty China. or Great Tang Empire.
Surname of ruling family of Tang Dynasty was "Li" sometimes transliterated as "Lee".
@@eoghanmyers2330 If you go into the history of TaeKwonDo, basically few Koreans under Japanese Occupation went to Japan and learned Okinawan Karate, and came back to Korea to open Dojo's. When Japanese surrendered after WW2, Dr. Syngman Rhee became the president of South Korea, and these Karate practitioners demonstrated their skills in front of President Rhee. After seeing the martial art, Dr. Rhee thought it was TAEKKYON, an actual traditional Korean martial art that he saw when he was young, and called it as such. Since anti-Japanese sentiment was great after the liberation, these Karate practicioners decided to change the name and TAEKKYON gave them an idea. and they came up with similar sounding name of TaeKwonDo. ie, TaeKwonDo is basically modified version of Karate, and has no relationship with TAEKKYON, which is actual traditional Korean martial art.
@@davidjacobs8558 Taekkyon by all accounts was never a real martial art but a Korean folk game. After the creation of TKD, Koreans needed something to prove that they have genuine martial arts which are unrelated to Japanese martial arts so they created the myth of the ancient martial art of Taekkyon.
I like this sensei! He doesnt talk too much or get sidetracked easily when explaining things like alot of mcdojo ppl do. He's advice is straight-to-the-point and easy to understand
I'd like to see Jesse do an episode on ITF Taekwon-do.
Same. I've just started it in february of this year and man is it a challenge for my out of shape ass but it's been great for getting me active again. Testing for my yellow belt on the 18th 😰
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I would like to see him do an episode on Hap Ki Do
@@xxfloppypillowxxgood luck👍🏻
@@xxfloppypillowxxgood luck👍🏻
As a Tang Soo Do practitioner, I really appreciate you giving our style a try! This dojang looks like a great place. Tang Soo!
Thank you, Jesse! You continually step out of your comfort zone. A great role model for traditional and modern martial arts. Discipline, humor, and always demanding excellence! Thanks again, I love it!
Just doing what I love! 🙏
@@KARATEbyJesse Hey Jesse! Could you do a Taekwondo Video!! ITF style please!
I always love how the masters you show in your videos are so respectful with others martial arts as you do. That shows how this master love and respect the martial arts, instead of blame on others. Respect sensei.
In my opinion Tang Soo Do is one of the more underrated styles of karate. It has a lot of application for a lot of situations.
But its TKD mix? to me its like watching very old school TKD in a Karate style :)
@@AMLagonda to be fair its a mix of a lot of styles. the style i train is rather complete in my opinion. going over striking as well as takedowns, some grappling, and boxing on some nights. the gym i go to in many cases can be considered an mma gym with karate as its basis.
@@AMLagonda it's not a mix of tang soo do. TSD came before TKD.
Think about how BJJ came out of Judo which came from Jujitsu.
TKD came out of TSD which came from Shotokan.
I agree!
@@robertoliver2651 TSD cames from Taekion and then mix wt Shotokan
I studied Tang Soo Do from about 9- 15 years old and loved every minute of it (leaving wasn't my choice). I even have a picture of me and Grandmaster Shin during a retreat. It really was like a family.
Hey Jesse! I appreciate you giving recognition to a very underrated martial art! Keep it up man!
Always!
I had to comment and compliment the instructor. He is well versed and explained the basis of those moves perfectly. I enjoyed this video.
I'm so happy to see this episode! I'm a student of GM Dale Drouillard, the first American to earn a Dan under GM Hwang Kee. I owe my love of martial arts to TSD MDK. Thank you for covering it!
Are you in Detroit?
I really enjoyed that as a student of Tae Kwon Do, I really appreciate the teaching style of the instructor teaching technique for executing the kicks regarding body mechanics. Great work as always Mr Encamp. 👊🏼
I have been a member of the WTSDA for 28 years now, the association Jesse trained with for this video. I have to say, it was pretty awesome seeing some familiar faces. I know Jesse had a hard class, especialliy if it was Master Homschek who was teaching the majority of it. Tang Soo.
I'm tkd
I agree. This was super exciting to watch, plus the realization that it was Master Homschek! I've been training TSD for 12 years and have even gotten the chance to learn from him a couple of times. Super cool video to see
As a Tang Soo Do Black Belt, I really enjoyed this video. Tang Soo!!😊
As a TSD black belt I fully agree ❤
As someone who has been practicing Tang Soo Do for the last 20 years, it’s cool to see it featured in this way and shown respect by Jesse! Thanks for this video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Tang Soo Do Sweden and our local club in Täby not only enjoyed the visit by some fantastic US Masters of the WTSDA. The visit by Jesse to Master Marcko’s dojang and members was a fabulous treat.
Jesse really showed true interest in everything we did. He’s not only an excellent Karateka but quite the gentleman!
Jesse is always humble whenever he is at other Martial Arts dojo/dojang. Can't wait to see Jesse visiting any ITF Taekwon-Do dojang! It would certainly be awesome😄🥋💪🏻
Sounds fun 😊
I agree. I love that he is always respectful. That’s as it should be. Hopefully he would touch on the early Shotokan influence on TKD.
I think what I respect most about you is your open mind and willingness to learn.
Great stuff! Great to see you continuing to show differences and similarities between styles from all over the world.
Glad you enjoyed it 😊 More to come! 👍
@@KARATEbyJesse Hey Jesse! Could you do a Taekwondo Video!! ITF style please!
Its amazing to see what a change in instruction comes from an instructor who understands body mechanics
I appreciate how proficient they are while at the same time humble.
I've done various karate, jujitsu, and tkd over the course of almost two decades. That instructor was a pleasure to watch in his explanations. Clear instructions with a clear "why is don't that way and how to achieve it" explanations.
I'm still amazed when I see someone execute a crescent kick. I had trouble with it as a kid in my tang soo do classes, and still do.
I have been a TKD practitioner since 1972. An instructor since I was 19. TKD was called Korean Karate back then. There were grabs, sweeps, some throws and joint locks. About 60% kicks. Power was really emphasized. The idea of ending a fight with one shot, but throwing in combination. Hard sparring at the end of every class too. I am curious as to why no sparring was shown here?
The TSD head instructor was quite good btw.
I started in tkd then eventually switched to an old school style of tkd and I noticed that the majority of the forms and movements we practiced were the exact same. Our master was nearing his 60s by then, which leads me to believe that tkd and tsd may have diverged fairly recently.
@@chunkyunun74341967 is when Palgwe forms were created replacing the Pyong Ahn forms.
@@chunkyunun7434 They diverged at different times for different instructors. A lot of instructors previously taught arts under different names, but rebranded under Tae Kwon Do in response to the Korean government's push to unify their martial arts. TSD was the most prolific, but there were teachers from other lineages doing the same. A lot of instructors made the switch over the course of the 60s to 70s, but for some, it meant transitioning to the standardized Tae Kwon Do forms, while others transitioned to teaching under the Tae Kwon Do banner while keeping the same forms.
@@maxhensley1685wait, so Tang Soo Do & Tae Kwon Do are essentially the same art? I thought TSD was adapted from Okinawan Te & TKD had purely Korean roots.
@@mariorodriguezjuniori am 3rd degree tkd black belt, and i must say that it is almost identical. From what i've seen, tang soo do forms are different just like said in the video. But for the techniques, philosophy and basis the're the same. Because of the olympics, tkd has become almost fully sport oriented, instead of an effective martial art, to the point that joint locks, takedowns, grabs and punch strikes are nearly not used in standard tkd training nowadays
I am currently an inactive practitioner, but I advanced to 2nd degree before I went to college. It's nice to see this video and I'm glad you had a great experience with my style. Seeing you try it makes me miss it!
Would love to see Jesse do a video on Soo Bahk Do, always seemed like the most complete Korean karate style while maintaining the most traditional roots out of them as well.
Noted!
@@KARATEbyJesse Amazing, I would love to see that too, as a practitioner. I like the explanations and breakdown done by this master.
@@KARATEbyJesse Soo Bahk Do is basically the same as Tang Soo Do. The founder renamed it to Soo Bahk Do.
It’s an absolute joy to watch this video. Thank you!
I’ve done Shotokan for over ten years and did Tang Soo Do for a little while after I got my black belt in the former. It surprised me at the time how similar they both were. I think that the Korean style that comes closest to Shotokan is Soo Bahk Do.
Soo Bahk Do is not more than a name change and an change of emphasis from the original Tang Soo Do curriculum. Many people had left the Tang Soo Do Moo Duk Kwan for political reasons (such as WTSDA, the association in this video), and HC Hwang (son of Hwang Kee) wanted to create a separate identity, so the name change came in the late 90s after the 50th Anniversary. They still do the same forms, but they have shifted their emphasis in many ways. No contact free sparring, an emphasis on the forms created by Hwang Kee and not the traditional Okinawan forms, how to generate power for techniques, etc.
@@cerrudmanuelWow, you believe that?
I practiced WTSD for several years and loved it. I had the pleasure of meeting the late Grandmaster Shin at a tournament. He was such a kind man.
Tae Kwon Do, which came from Tang Soo Do, was my first art starting at 9 years old and I absolutely loved it. It gave me really great kicking technique. After concentrating on wrestling in high school, I switched to Goju Ryu after I graduated, which developed my hand technique, then in in my early 20's in about 2008, I found a traditional Japanese Jujutsu/Judo dojo, and I've trained exclusively there since. I still practice my tae kwon do and karate on my own though. And I loved seeing that Shiho Nage (one of my favorite jujutsu throws) thrown in there! It reminded me of the little bit of Hapkido we did from time to time in Tae Kwon Do.
I learned Tang Soo Do from both the Chung Do Kwan and Moo Duk Kwan lines.
I received my first dan from Grand Master Duk Sung Son who was the second president of Chung Do Kwan. After receiving my 2nd dan, I joined a Moo Duk school because I wanted to do full contact sparring. There is so much to learn from both styles. Chung Do taught me how to kick ungodly hard, while Moo Duk taught me how to spar.
Dang man. Tang Soo Do is just fun. Korean martial arts in general are just fun.
It's interesting to see the different styles of Martial Arts from different parts of the world. Thank you for this video.
Wow I never thought I would be interested in Tang Soo Do until this video. Excellent!
It was cool to see you try out a martial art that I train in! And my master's Tang Soo Do master also happened to be trained alongside Chuck Norris.
Don't forget also, Cobra Kai is Tang Soo do. Having trained for a good while in TSD, I loved this video. Though we also learned techniques from other martial arts that my kwanjangnim knew very well. Still not exactly sure if the ridge hand technique is Tang Soo Do or not; always preferred that over the knife hand.
I’ve been taught that knife hand is a block and ridge is a strike
In my tae kwondo dojang we use both knife hand and ridge hand. In the system I study, all techniques - even blocks - can be strikes - so we use both knife hand and ridge hand as strikes. But so far I've never seen ridge hand used as a block, only a strike; knife hand can block and strike.
You don't try out Chuck Norris' Karate Style. Chuck Norris' Karate Style tries out you...
LoL 💀
It's not karate? Or is it? Maybe kung fu
Lol😂
"Karate", which originated from Okinawa, and "Okinawa" originated from Chuck Norris.
And he puched a white crane or something.
Ipso facto Chuck Norris=Karate
Chuck Norris once made fun of Will Smith’s wife. Will Smith slapped himself!
I'm actually doing taekwondo for college while coming from a karate background. I've doing my own training in my own time and I always thought that both martial arts are amazing compliments to each other despite cultural differences. Amazing video like always Jesse! Never stop learning.
Yay!! you are finally doing my style, been practicing Tang Soo Do/Moo Duk Kwan for 37 years, it is so wonderful to see you do this, awesome video :)
I greatly admire how humble you are as a person, as well as your willingness to be a student all over again.
We are all lifetime students. Never stop learning.
Cobra Kai from Karate Kid series was also Tang Soo Do!!
I feel you, Jesse. I was confused by the korean terms when I, a shotokan karateka, started oldschool Taekwondo (as taught by grandmaster Kwon). Also, so many moves are similar but, to make it more of a challenge, not identical to karate.
Very interesting, as usual with Jesse. And Jesse is so nice, humble, curious and professional, that it sure inspires his audience to be a better person, not just a better fighter. Love this guy, really.
I used to think that Tang Soo Do was simply Korean Shotokan. But now I see that Tang Soo Do is closer to karate's Okinawan roots (and therefore to its Chinese roots) than Shotokan.
I study Tang Soo Do and my wife was a Shotokan instructor for many years - there are definitely lots of similarities, especially in hyungs/katas, but in practice a lot of the focuses are different. Like they mentioned, we're a lot more kick focused in Tang Soo Do, and generally a little faster/lighter than Shotokan, which seems to focus a lot more on power. (at least in our region!)
In my tsd school we do an Okinawan side kick as well as the Korean side kick.
My son is a black belt and instructor in Tang Soo Do and studied 4:43 Jujutsu. He went from a couch potato to instructor. I would recommend that for anyone.
It is interesting to look at the subtle change from Shorin Ryu to Shotokan to Tang Soo Do ! There is a direct link ; the character / culture of Korea shaped their arts . Kicking someone in the head had much more class than kicking in the groin !
Amazing video! Great work Jesse!
Tang Soo Do is a really good style of martial arts, very similar to Taekwon-Do! Keep it up Jesse 🙏🙏
Will do! We cover the differences towards the end of the video
Yes I see@@KARATEbyJesse
@@KARATEbyJesseInstructor was thoughtful enough not to say "sport" or "game" when comparing TKD.
This was awesome! I studied Tang Soo Do for a number of years as a youth. I recognized the forms you were doing, even having been out of it for as long as I have been. 😊
Much like Karate, this style should also be a descendant of Fujian White Crane, IIRC the name does translate to "Chinese hand" much like the pre-1930s reading of 唐手 (Tode).
You’re on the right track
And Chojun Miyagi went on to create Goju Ryu Karate.
Wasn't TSD founded by a Korean student of Funakoshi?
@@brandonwells1175 AFAIK, all of the original 5 gwans of Korean martial arts from the early 40s were founded by people who studied under Funakoshi. Not all of them admit it, because of the collaborationist stigma. TSD wasn't one of the 5 original gwans, but I heard it grew out of or was associated with 무덕관, a style most prevalent in the southwest of the Korean peninsula.
yes. it writes with the same chinese characters, tang soo do is the korean reading of toudedo
Okinawans use the word "hand" in the same way we use the word "tongue" to say language, we use the part of the body that we use to make a thing to name that thing. The Okinawans use the word for mouth instead of tongue for language though.
So tode really means "chinese martial arts"
This was a very interesting summary on Tang Soo Do, You showed the basics of the moves, philosophy and history in a short video, with great respect and kept it interesting! I had only heard of it, but now I know the basic story and can recognize the style. Congratulations on the video!
A work colleague of mine was a third grade black belt Tang Soo Do practitioner; and her daughter was only 12 years old when she was awarded her first grade black belt. She nearly always referred to it as Korean karate. Interestingly, however, during a black belt only session, her teacher, a 7th grade, told them that none of them would last long in a street fight.
The more you can do without thinking the better chance you have. The only people that consistently do well in street fights are those that street fight often.
The best street fighters are street people.
That is misconception, IMO. People say that "people who practice Muay Thai or Jiu Jitsu will be better prepared for a street fighter" but, in the end, it's more a personal attitude than actually only techniques. In a real fight you will need to deal with a lot of things, and that's is dificult to prepare you. IMO depends if you practice fight in your dojo, if you do you will be prepared for a fight, even if you willl have a lot of protections.
Mindset has a lot to do with it.
I trained Tang Soo Do off and on during middle school and high school.
My technique was decent. but I would have gotten clobbered during an actual fight since I was small (not enough power behind my strokes), I didn’t know how to grapple, and I lacked the necessary aggression required to intentionally harm people.
Tang Soo Do is basically a Korean version of Shotokan Karate. The Japanese occupied Korea for a good part of the early 20th Century. They only allowed Japanese Martial Arts to be practiced. Various Koreans studied one version or another of Japanese Karate (Tang Soo Do is the Korean word for Karate). Hwang Kee depending on who you listen to either studied under Funakoshi. Or read his book and copied the forms. For example the Pinan forms of Karate are the same forms Tang Soo Do practices. Along with Bassi, Chinto, etc.. For a long time after liberation from the Japanese the Koreans wanted nothing to do with anything Japanese. Their were supposedly some native Korean arts that emphasized kicking (Tae Kyun or Soo Bak Do). Tang So Do is a variation of Shotokan with more of an emphasis on kicking. As Tang So Do transitioned it took on a flavor of it’s own. But again like most styles of Karate it had it’s roots in the Martial Arts that were introduced to Japan from Okinawa. Tang Soo Do is like Shorin Ryu, Shinto Ryu, Wado Ryu, is a stylistic change of Shotokan. No cut to Tang Soo Do. It is as good as the above mentioned arts. But stories of its origin that were told to us in the 1960’s were for the most part fabrications.
I trained at a chuck norris UFAF (United fighting arts federation) school to begin with. One of my instructors was in a few Walker episodes. All commands were in english. The footwork was different than other local TSD schools. One of the kata (UFAF1)was considered a fighting form and featured slide-up, step through and step behind movement mixed with jabs and reverse punches. They slowly integrated bjj curriculums , Krav Maga. Even the sport acrobatic forms started popping up in their schools. In the early 90’s the style was called Chun Kuk Do. It reverted back to the chuck norris system a few years back.
As a Tang Soo Do practitioner I'm happy to see some more quality videos covering our art. Having studied a little Tae Kwon Do (Jhoon Rhee) and Shotokan. I've always seen Tang Soo Do (Moo Duk Kwan Lineage) as being in between the two, but definitely closer in technique and philosophy to the Japanese/Okinawan karate. On a historical note The term Tang Soo Do (唐手道) is a generic term for Way of the China [Tang] hand and when read in Japanese would read as Karate-do. Being generic many of the original Korean Kwans referred to themselves as Tang Soo Do. I think of these various Kwans as "Ryu" is thought of in japanese karate. Eventually most of these Kwans were consolidated into the amalgamation that is Tae Kwon Do. Today, though when MOST people refer to Tang Soo Do, they are referring Hwang Kee's Moo Duk Kwan Tang Soo Do. Though a few of the other Kwans will also use term Tang Soo Do (such as Jidokwan), they are slightly different. (confused yet?) While Hwang Kee resisted the unification, some of his students did combine with Tae Kwon Do, so you may see Moo Duk Kwan Tae Kwon Do. You may also see Soo Bahk Do, which is what Hwang Kee changed the name of his system to in the 70's-80's while incorporating more Chinese/soft elements into his system. So Moo Duk Kwan (the -ryu) may be Tae Kwon Do, Tang Soo Do, or Soo Bahk Do. Over time they have diverged between each other. Of those three, Moo Duk Kwan Tang Soo Do seems to hold the closest to Japanese karate.
Thanks for sharing 😊
My kids do Goju-Ryu (for about 11 years), I've taken some classes with them. I do Tang soo Do and, in my Marine Corps days I saw karate in Naha Okinawa and Korean Karate demonstrated in Suwon (near Seoul). The styles and teaching methodology are so different that a lot of my Tang Soo Do training interferes with the Goju-Ryu I'm trying to learn. I've found them to be strikingly dissimilar.
@@shawnveltheim1688 Yea, I did a summer in Kenpo and someone that switched from Goju-Ryu was my instructor. He said it had a lot of similarities but Kenpo was very circular with a lot of soft striking. I switched to TSD after that summer and it was very different, with a focus on straight, powerful attacks. The instructor in this video was excellent.
Well done, Jesse. Being open-minded and willing to continuously learn is what makes the difference. Keep up the good work. Love the videos.
Chuck Norris and I actually had the same teacher, Jae Joon Kim. Our style was Moo Duk Kwan, Tang Soo Do. Master Kim taught me at his school in Flint, Michigan. I was honored to be invited to his grandson's birthday celebration.
It was really cool seeing the instructor point something out and then seeing you do it …. And actually noticing right away the difference as a non practitioner
What a cool martial art! To think I barely knew anything about Tang Soo Do except for its name before this.
Always more to learn!
Sorry Jesse I'm already a member subscriber 😁, you enjoy the water ..... I'm good. 🙂👍🏾🥇🥋
Also may I say your form is perfect. 👌🏾 Your spirit in adapting to different styles is extraordinary, good job. 🥋🥇
There's a unique style in Korea called Taekkyeon which really looks like a folk dance, however it has these kicks that really doesn't resemble Taekwondo. Check it out.
Nice. Its so nice to see that there are still people who are willing and enthusiast to practice traditional martial arts like karate.
My father/ and my own style, Jidokwon, is very similar to Tang Soo do and was primarily founded in the US by Henry Cho. Cho ran the all American tournament in NYC which Bruce Lee and Chuck Norris regularly attended. Jidokwon is almost identical to shotokan and have even less jumping kicks than TSD. The style was eventually incorporated into TKD but to be honest I think it was more accurate to call it Korean karate. Thanks for this video Jessie!
This was so informative. I can't believe it.
As a Tangsoodoka, I really appreciate this video. Many dojos/dojangs are different and so is the use of Japanese or Korean terminology. Most Tang Soo Do schools in the US remind me of how Sensei Seth runs things
(This is Sweden) ;-)
Very good overview of Tang Soo. I’ve trained for 33 yrs and have reached 5 the degree black belt Master. I love it and at 71 still train two to three days per week.
Nice video. I got my start in Tang soo do under the same organization in America. If it wasn’t for TSD I honestly don’t know where I would be in life it’s teachings both in mind and body has shaped me into the man I am today.
Right on!! 🔥
That's the beauty of martial arts
I love how respectful and inquisitive Jesse is with other styles. You kicked ass in tang soo do! But then again it is basically karate haha
Oh, I thought it was taekondo for a sec when I saw the thumbnail. But it is an interesting martial arts. It seems like Koreans really mixed with their own kicks and punches.
Me too lol
No doubt!!
Me too lol
This was great! Takes me back to my days in the ‘80s and ‘90s training TKD/TSD.
@0:23, is that a karate push up?!!! lol
Excellent review and explanation of the style. Thank you very much for the work and effort to put this together. Really enjoyed it.
Moo duk kwan splitted in two when Hwang Kee wanted to do his own thing and the other side joined to form the Kukkiwon Taekwondo.
So the two arts have the same history.
Also in Finland and Denmark (at least) we have a family of kukkiwon taekwondo clubs whose master is from moo duk kwan and we train pyung ahn (pinan) forms.
Politics as usual 🥲
@@KARATEbyJessethe politics in Taekwondo from origin to now are fascinating. From spies to kidnappings to money laundering and fraud and the divide of North and South Korea. It could make a fascinating Documentary.
Jesse you rock, each of your video is so great to see.
Yes, there are many similarities with Karate. The oldest forms being similar to Karate’s is not an accident but an influence of the Japanese martial arts. I do Taekwondo and there are schools of different traditions within that as well.
So much to learn 👊
Agreed. The WT taekwondo that I practice is from the jidokwan line, and we try (as much as possible) to keep some of the traditional aspects rather than succumbing fully to the “sportification” of taekwondo. There’s some bunkai (application), but even within our style a lot is lost in time since the teachers only took what they had learned from karate and made due
I took tang soo do classes as a kid in Southern California and absolutely loved it. The intensity level of sparring was delightful, as the art prioritizes tempo and initiative! I had to start back as a white belt in tae kwon do when my family moved to Oklahoma, and I was a holy terror on the sparring floor because I'd spent a couple years learning fight mechanics from a naturally aggressive vantage. I love this art. It's a blast.
COBRA KAI! COBRA KAI! COBRA KAI!
The Chinese characters are 唐手道, which are the original Chinese characters that the Ryukyu masters used for Karate. Moo Duk Kwan 武德會 which was founded by Hwang Kee 黃琦 was the largest Tang Soo Do organization among the 5 or so organizations. Some of his students refused the change of name to Taekwando and retained Tang Soo Do. Hwang Kee, liked Mas Oyama, lived in Manchuria when young and supposedly learned various Chinese styles like Taiji and 18 Hamds. The most popular styles in Manchuria was Chuo Jiao, Baji, and Tongbei.
Grew up training at Sherman Oaks Karate in L.A (Ball Wall & Norris's Dojo). I found tournaments stressful as a kid, but that environment made me into a lifer. I'm an old man now... still training and loving it.
So excited that you tried this style out! One is opening up, maybe 3 minutes, away from my house and I was curious about it vs other arts.
Thanks for all your great video‘s dear Jesse. I practise Tang Soo Do 28 years now ( in the netherlands). The atmosphere and vibes are exactly the same. TSD is the traditional martial art where TKD is made from.
I just started Tang Soo Do 3 weeks ago so i’m obviously still a white belt & my dojang is affiliated with the Independent Tang Soo Do Association. I’m very much enjoying it right now & it’s cool to see someone using my style on UA-cam
I love learning how interconnected various martial arts are.
I love how you try other styles and make good videos showing your experience in trying them. Too many UA-camrs make negative videos on things they have never even tried.
I appreciate that!
Excellent point, Master Dan!
He seems like a great instructor. He provides great detail and explanation.
Thank you Jesse for ALL you have done and continue to do for Karate
Been watching your vids for a few years now and love them. Haven't watched for awhile. Started back. Learned something new every time I come on here.
his teaching actually helped me a good deal with understanding crescent kick mechanics
As a lifelong Karateka, I've always enjoyed learning what brief snippets of other styles and this is the first time I've heard of the whole difference between height and distance. That makes so much sense and definitely something I'm putting into my training.
This is incredible! Thank you for sharing this video. I've been watching all your videos and they are so well documented and informative. I've been looking for a path.. a journey. and your videos has helped me find what I was looking for. thank you
so much!
Yes! When I tell people I have a black belt in Tang Soo Do people just look at me as if I didn't know how to say Taekwondo. Thank you for making a video about the martial art I practiced 🙏🏽
Really enjoy good instructors giving good information out to students. Jesse you make a very good student as well at these training sessions.
More than 20 years ago I did 5 years of Tang Soo Do and received my First Dan black belt. I left when I moved out of the area. I regret not staying and going up to a 3rd Dan. Loved the sparring and learn more when sparring against big opponents since I am short.
Something ironic about Tang Soo Do (당수도) is that it's much more popular/common outside of Korea than in it.
I live in Cheongju (a city of 850-875,000 people). The nearest Dojang of 당수도 that I found on a Korean navigation/mapping app are in cities 1.5 hours away by car in good traffic in other provinces.
Whereas back in the US, you can find some for it in practically any city.
Enjoyed watching it. Thank you so much for going around exploring different martial arts and sharing your experience and knowledge with the rest of us around the world. Respect!!! 🤟
Nicely done! Wonderful to see comparisons, contrasts and culture mixed in this video. Osu!!
As a Tang Soo Do instructor, this warms my heart to see!
Jesse. You are one of the most wholesome martial arts guys out there. God bless you and your family.