Kel-Tec Gen 3 S2K: UNRELIABLE?

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 25 лип 2024
  • Optics Planet Discount Code: HRFUNK (7% off your purchase)
    HOP Munitions Discount Code: HRFUNK (5% off your purchase)
    Targets Online: www.targetsonline.com
    Save 10% on your order from Zeta6 with the Discount Code: HRFUNK (Cannot be used with other discount codes)
    SSP Eyewear Website: sspeyewear.com
    12% SSP Discount Code: HRFUNK12 (Good for orders of $35 or more!)
    Olight Discount Code: HRFUNK
    Join this channel to get access to exclusive members only content:
    / @hrfunk
  • Розваги

КОМЕНТАРІ • 103

  • @joshuaestes-oz1eu
    @joshuaestes-oz1eu Місяць тому +20

    i love it when an inexpensive USA made firearm delivers on performance.

  • @thomashoffman5745
    @thomashoffman5745 Місяць тому +5

    My Gen2 has been flawless so far. It's never malfunctioned on me.

  • @bigshug3127
    @bigshug3127 Місяць тому +6

    Looks at my multitude of glocks "hey ugglies, I may regret a few of you.. but never had a single issue out of any of you"

  • @anthonybattaglia5937
    @anthonybattaglia5937 Місяць тому +3

    Thanks for putting this video out. I have had my Gen 2 for about 2 years now and never had any issues from cheap ammo to carry ammo. When I shoot indoors at 75 feet using iron sights, I'm pretty accurate dead center. The only thing I did was paint the front sight yellow to see it better for myself. It's a fun gun and I refuse to put a red dot on it. Keep up the great videos!

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Місяць тому

      Will do Anthony. Thanks for watching!

  • @YellowHammer26
    @YellowHammer26 Місяць тому +4

    👍👍great test, definitely looks reliable.

  • @davidjernigan8161
    @davidjernigan8161 Місяць тому +3

    I have a CP33, and a PMR30, and the only issue I have had other than operator induced rim lock is a broken bolt hold open on the CP33. Kel Tec sent two replacements and a video on how to replace the part.

  • @clintonlayne9253
    @clintonlayne9253 Місяць тому +3

    H.R Got to Love the Joy sticks .

  • @johnnyrocko2933
    @johnnyrocko2933 Місяць тому +3

    Thank you for posting this. I’ve been on the fence about a couple of these for backpack guns for my wife and I but was hesitant because of the different opinions about reliability. I’m a little more confident about them now. Thanks again 👍

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Місяць тому +2

      If you decide to get one, be sure to let me know what you think of it.

  • @roykiefer7713
    @roykiefer7713 Місяць тому +6

    To begin, Howard I applaud your methodology and I believe your results are meaningful.
    Now I have a confession. I won’t own any firearm designed, produced and supported by a manufacturer with a questionable reputation. For example, I won’t depend on a Taurus, despite the facts that (in recent years) their quality seems to be better and a good many individuals I respect have had no problems with their firearms. Further, I have placed Kel-Tec in roughly the same category. But that may be unfair and this Sub-2000 really seems to be a reliable and functional weapons . . . at a very affordable price.
    Aggregate reputations can be resorted, of course, but it takes considerable time and managerial effort to do so. Obviously, Remington is currently attempting to resurrect its once stellar stature, and Marlin/Ruger seems to be destined to do so.

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Місяць тому +7

      I understand completely. I wanted nothing to do with Kel-Tec products for about 20 years after seeing how dismally some of their early pistols performed. Then, a few years ago, I decided to take a chance on a Gen-2 Sub2000. As I mentioned in the video, I've been quite impressed with it. The Gen-3 seems to be equally dependable and adequately accurate for my purposes. As always, thanks for watching and thanks for the comment!

    • @kevinallies1014
      @kevinallies1014 Місяць тому

      You are either lying through your teeth or you don’t own a single gun. Every gun manufacturer has had some gun that either wasn’t reliable or had issues. Anyone that says otherwise is a god damned liar.

    • @elsullo2
      @elsullo2 Місяць тому

      I have a Kel-Tec P-11 9mm pistol that is OVER THIRTY YEARS OLD that still works perfectly---and I got it USED! I have put over 400 rounds of mostly HOT hollowpoints through and it has never failed in any way, EXCEPT with a cheapo aftermarket magazine full of cheapo weak BigMart bulk-box ammo ONE day. It is STILL very accurate and looks like new (stainless steel slide.)
      I am convinced that some big name manufacturers use paid ringers to submit fake bad reviews to YooooToooob to make cheaper-priced rivals LOOK BAD. I have SEEN a YouuuToooob reviewer deliberately test using light hollowpoints specifically forbidden by the Kel-Tec owner's manual, and then being SHOCKED and surprised that the .22 magnum pistol did not perform perfectly, just like the manual said it would not! It was embarrassing to see him PRETEND to look surprised and disturbed---he is not an actor! And there are many others, reviewers that you cannot trust, lying for money behind the scenes............................elsullo

  • @raybo34
    @raybo34 Місяць тому +5

    Nice test my friend. Kel-Tec gets a bad rap for some reason. I would prefer the Gen 2 if I were to get one though. I do wish they would do something about the reciprocating charging handle.

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Місяць тому +4

      Thanks Ray. The only time I've ever had an issue with the charging handle has been while firing from the bench. In all fairness, though, that's not what the S2K was meant for.

  • @HSmith-uk9hl
    @HSmith-uk9hl Місяць тому +3

    An interesting and fun experiment. The Kel-Tec performed perfectly. In my experience, UTG makes a better product than the price would suggest. I have several UTG parts for a budget build AR15 and the quality doesn't disappoint.

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Місяць тому +2

      I agree I have been quite satisfied with several of their products I have used in the past.

  • @mikereinhardt4807
    @mikereinhardt4807 Місяць тому

    Great video. Would like to see more of these type videos with other PPC's. Again thanks...

  • @emilcampeanu8533
    @emilcampeanu8533 Місяць тому +1

    Ok, see you in 45 years for part 2.
    Thank you, great video as usual.

  • @davidjacoboski4657
    @davidjacoboski4657 Місяць тому +3

    HR great quality test.

  • @eclectic3618
    @eclectic3618 Місяць тому

    Love my 40 cal sub2k, thanks for the tip on the UTG mags, gonna look them up!

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Місяць тому +1

      I'm not sure if they make them in .40. Check the Leapers website for all their mag offerings.

  • @vegasab7186
    @vegasab7186 Місяць тому +3

    Excellent presentation

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Місяць тому +1

      Thanks!

  • @I_LIKE_GUNS_56
    @I_LIKE_GUNS_56 Місяць тому +1

    Having a lot of experience with Glock clone magazines, I’ve found that the ones that work best are the ones that follow the original design. The only exception to that are the Shield Arms mags for the G43X/G48 but they are all steel. The steel “frame” covered by “plastic” ones often have the ability to drop free, not so much with the all “plastic” ones. The PMags and ETS mags often swell when they are full, making them not even drop free when fully loaded. I use KCI mags for range use. They can be had for sub $10 too and I’ve had zero malfunctions with them. Now, you have to make sure you get their Gen 2 as they had some issues with their early generations. Anyway, thanks for this video. I have a Just Right Carbine that doesn’t like the mag being used as a support regardless of the brand used.
    I’m just glad you are finally getting closer to obtaining Glock Perfection, even if it is one mag at a time! lol 😂 😂😂😂😂

  • @brctom1
    @brctom1 12 днів тому

    Thanks for the video!!

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  12 днів тому

      You’re welcome. Thanks for watching!

  • @terrybarnes0712
    @terrybarnes0712 Місяць тому +1

    Awesome video

  • @user-zw5vc5pw2d
    @user-zw5vc5pw2d Місяць тому

    KEL-TEK has certainly improved their QC.

  • @jamesvatter5729
    @jamesvatter5729 Місяць тому +2

    Wow! That was certainly a real "Jammomatic!" 😂 😅

  • @roderick2315
    @roderick2315 Місяць тому +2

    *Unreliable!* should be an interesting video. I see very few reviews on firearms that provide, good critical evaluations of them.

  • @thomaswhite2802
    @thomaswhite2802 Місяць тому +2

    Hi guys ; I’ve never fired a key-tec but the local shop sells them so I’m interested, this’ll be good

  • @willbar1961
    @willbar1961 Місяць тому

    I'm still running a gen 2 with Beretta mags. I picked it due to being heavily vested in the 92fs/M9 pistol. Still interested in your work with the gen 3.

  • @Sgtkode
    @Sgtkode Місяць тому

    Two things Chief , the first you should try my friend the in barrel laser for sight adjustment. I set my sights at home before going to the range. It works great. The second is kinda just strange or weird off the wall information but here goes. That was the same model gun used in the Highland park mass shooting. I'm glad it's in the hands of good.

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Місяць тому +2

      I know. It just goes to show that the firearm has no free will of its own. Everything is determined by the person who possesses that firearm.

    • @Sgtkode
      @Sgtkode Місяць тому

      @@hrfunk I thought you might!

  • @flysubcompact
    @flysubcompact Місяць тому

    My new gen 3 has had about 700 rnds run through it. Mostly cheap ball. Zero malfunctions.

  • @shootsouthpaw7771
    @shootsouthpaw7771 5 днів тому

    No forgetting eye protection for me. I'm left handed and my Sub gen 2 would spray me in the face after every shot. That plus all the plastic caused me to sell it. When I disassembled it I couldn't believe I was looking at a plastic feed ramp.

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  5 днів тому +1

      The thing is, they work.

    • @shootsouthpaw7771
      @shootsouthpaw7771 5 днів тому

      @hrfunk it did, but for how long is the question. If you go the MCARBO route you're basically rebuilding it to an acceptable standard. Right down to the screw posts. Rather than all that, I sold it and went down the M&P FPC path.

  • @Elnu01
    @Elnu01 Місяць тому

    cost effective and reliable !

  • @alancrews2066
    @alancrews2066 Місяць тому

    Cool

  • @thomaswhite2802
    @thomaswhite2802 Місяць тому

    Worst case scenario is a good idea

  • @Bob-bb3ur
    @Bob-bb3ur Місяць тому

    Seems to work ?

  • @scottdebruin3167
    @scottdebruin3167 Місяць тому

    Still trying to decide which PCC is for me; Keltek, S&W or Ruger

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Місяць тому

      Tough choice. Let me know which one you select.

    • @flysubcompact
      @flysubcompact Місяць тому

      It was a tough choice for me. That new SW offering is pretty nice, but so is the price. The only other Keltec i ever owned runs perfectly, so...

  • @kaa_man
    @kaa_man Місяць тому +1

    I must have missed the UNRELIABLE part of the video. Apparently, this is a very good firearm.

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Місяць тому +2

      I missed it too, but since people keep insisting the S2K is unreliable, I titled this video appropriately (I guess).

    • @LUVDOGS1954
      @LUVDOGS1954 Місяць тому

      Irony, sarcasm, humor, satire...

  • @sunglee2048
    @sunglee2048 Місяць тому

    Is this where I can say "...there's progress and then there's change?"

  • @LUVDOGS1954
    @LUVDOGS1954 Місяць тому +1

    What!

  • @tommcqueen3145
    @tommcqueen3145 Місяць тому

    👍👍

  • @roykiefer7713
    @roykiefer7713 Місяць тому +2

    Well, this certainly should be “illuminating.”

  • @rebelyankee4910
    @rebelyankee4910 Місяць тому +1

    Yup. Run the gen 2 9mm. with Glock mags, and Amend 2 thirty three round mags. Various ammunition zero malfunctions. Reliable, American made. Affordable, and ya gotta love the portability of the fold. 😊

  • @libra7624
    @libra7624 Місяць тому +2

    i know what you mean, everyone expects a torture test it seems but i am against torture tests because when weapon is made ready for defense use wich will only be a few seconds in a defense incident it will be already clean, have lube and a cold barrel, a tourture test deprives weapon of cleaning, lube and cold barrel by over heating it, wich doesnt prove anything for the context of usage wich is not a battle field of constant fire but a personal defense application. we dont torture test our vehicles pulling the oil plug and putting brick on gas pedal to prove to someone how reliable our vehicle is and same with guns in those crazy tourture tests prove nothing because we are not going to use guns in the method they torture them. short simulated defense drills are good enough for testing a gun that has been cleaned, lubed and a cold barrel, this is how a gun is going to enter a defense situation, your not going to melt your barrel and start it on fire in any gun fight, if so it means we are not hitting the target if we need 1000 rounds of non stop firing, so torture tests make no sense for most firearms we are using in the context of short defense situations as private citizen

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Місяць тому +2

      Well said. The same thing applies to torture tests of optics. If I devise some wildly unrealistic test and manage to destroy an optic, the only thing I have proven is that it can be broken. The same might be said of virtually anything constructed by human beings.

    • @libra7624
      @libra7624 Місяць тому

      @@hrfunkexactly, drop optic from a 50 story building, put it in a bucket of mud or put it in water and freeze it, its crazy

    • @LUVDOGS1954
      @LUVDOGS1954 Місяць тому

      @@libra7624 all the evidence based logic and clear thinking of a fellow Libra...we are so inherently sagacious!

  • @frankhinkle5772
    @frankhinkle5772 Місяць тому

    Good shooting. It got boring watching you out-shoot me:10x, 10x,10x... Both magazines worked and the Sub2000 digested all the ammo that you fed it.

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Місяць тому

      With an optic, it's an easy firearm to shoot well. I'm still looking for the reliability problems people keep telling me these things are prone to.

  • @sleigh4019
    @sleigh4019 Місяць тому

    Listen its made from MT dew bottles but these SOB just run ..had 2 and hate them but they run

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Місяць тому

      Why do You hate them?

  • @fuzzyreticle
    @fuzzyreticle Місяць тому +1

    Keltec marketing, “we’re better than a rock”.

    • @clintonlayne9253
      @clintonlayne9253 Місяць тому +1

      A Rock is quieter and more plentiful it doesn't have misfires or hand fires . 😅

    • @waggtech4883
      @waggtech4883 Місяць тому +1

      Rock quality varies and is inconsistent…

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Місяць тому

      Better than a rock? That might depend upon the size of the rock and the distance from which it falls.

  • @showtime2629
    @showtime2629 Місяць тому +3

    If there's one thing I've learned from over a decade of watching gun videos on UA-cam is someone will ALWAYS question your reliability test results
    And someone will always believe if it doesn't start with Glock it isn't reliable.

  • @fireguy_75
    @fireguy_75 Місяць тому

    So why is this video titled unreliable?

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Місяць тому +2

      Because that’s what people keep telling me about the S2K. Weird huh?

    • @fireguy_75
      @fireguy_75 Місяць тому +1

      @@hrfunk Ok, kinda gives the wrong impression to someone just scrolling who’s considering purchasing one? But ok, guess they gotta watch. I had a Gen 1 & just didn’t like the sight picture/cheek positioning, but been considering getting the Gen3 because of the new folding design that allows for a permanent red dot attachment.

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Місяць тому

      If you get one, be sure to let me know what you think of it.

  • @fmike15
    @fmike15 Місяць тому

    My RDB was garbage and of course I got no help from Keltec

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Місяць тому +2

      That's kind of surprising. They seem to be proud of their customer service.

  • @petesheppard1709
    @petesheppard1709 Місяць тому +1

    NOT unreliable!!Maybe a question mark in the title??

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Місяць тому

      I was simply restating some of the sentiments I've received.

    • @petesheppard1709
      @petesheppard1709 Місяць тому

      True, there’s a lot of snobbery out there. OTOH, if you did find a problem I’m confident you will discuss it fairly and accurately.

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Місяць тому +1

      Absolutely.

  • @lintlicker4178
    @lintlicker4178 Місяць тому

    Well she's a keltec soooooo...

  • @raybo34
    @raybo34 Місяць тому +1

    Well can't expect to much from a gun made out of recycled beer cans and recycled milk jugs 😂

    • @johnqpublic2718
      @johnqpublic2718 Місяць тому +1

      Commented before you watched eh?

    • @raybo34
      @raybo34 Місяць тому +1

      Obviously this was posted before the video and was meant to be a joke based on what other guntubers have said about the Kel-Tec.

    • @johnqpublic2718
      @johnqpublic2718 Місяць тому +1

      @@raybo34 that may be true, but it's not obvious.

  • @TheJackmilla
    @TheJackmilla Місяць тому

    I think the title "Unreliable!" should be changed to "Unreliable?" to indicate you are testing the weapon versus saying its bad before you even begin. The title is misleading some viewers 😅

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Місяць тому

      The title is simply a reflection of the opinion people keep expressing to me with regard to this firearm. Seems kind of strange, doesn’t it?

  • @10thmtn86
    @10thmtn86 Місяць тому +1

    Would respectfully suggest you change the title of this video as a lot of people will just see the title and not watch the video or read the comments, to see that the carbine was actually reliable.

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Місяць тому

      . Thank you. I understand your concern. I chose this title purposely, because it conveys the opinion people keep expressing to me with regard to this firearm.

    • @10thmtn86
      @10thmtn86 Місяць тому

      @@hrfunk I figured you did, but I don't think you are doing the gun or manufacturer any favors with the title. I almost didn't watch the video myself, and would have gone away with the wrong idea.

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Місяць тому

      @@10thmtn86 Thanks again. I may change the exclamation mark to a question mark, but I'm going to wait a little longer before I do. It seems to me that people who express a negative opinion about a firearm, when they have little or no experience with that firearm, are far more detrimental than my title.

  • @t44e6
    @t44e6 Місяць тому +2

    I'll still never buy a Kel-Tec. To each hisown.

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Місяць тому

      I said the same thing for over 20 years.

  • @trolling4attention
    @trolling4attention Місяць тому

    I've stopped watching another yt channel for misleading video titles

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Місяць тому +1

      The title simply reflects the opinion people keep expressing to me with regard to this firearm. Your displeasure might better be directed toward such individuals.

    • @LUVDOGS1954
      @LUVDOGS1954 Місяць тому

      Yeah, hrfunk does it all the time!

  • @richvest7212
    @richvest7212 Місяць тому

    Overpriced &unreliable
    Buy a g19 & a micro roni

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Місяць тому +1

      By the time you buy the pistol, you'll have more invested in that system.

    • @darrelldunlap7249
      @darrelldunlap7249 Місяць тому

      I actully tried that system twice and it seemed reasonably viable.
      I almost liked it!
      For me I could never get the accuracy I required at distance.

  • @jamesdelong6401
    @jamesdelong6401 Місяць тому

    Good morning, HRFUNK and family. ☕️🥓🧇🥯. Man! That! Looks fun. I've heard that UTG keeps on improving their quality control in their products. Now! You need to find a duel 50-round drum magazine. O!!!!! YEA!!!!

    • @hrfunk
      @hrfunk  Місяць тому

      I agree. Leapers (parent company of UTG) had an impressive display at the NRA meeting. The more I use their products, the more impressed I am with them.

  • @thomaswhite2802
    @thomaswhite2802 Місяць тому

    Cool