Kel-Tec Gen 3 S2K: UNRELIABLE?
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i love it when an inexpensive USA made firearm delivers on performance.
My Gen2 has been flawless so far. It's never malfunctioned on me.
Looks at my multitude of glocks "hey ugglies, I may regret a few of you.. but never had a single issue out of any of you"
Thanks for putting this video out. I have had my Gen 2 for about 2 years now and never had any issues from cheap ammo to carry ammo. When I shoot indoors at 75 feet using iron sights, I'm pretty accurate dead center. The only thing I did was paint the front sight yellow to see it better for myself. It's a fun gun and I refuse to put a red dot on it. Keep up the great videos!
Will do Anthony. Thanks for watching!
👍👍great test, definitely looks reliable.
I have a CP33, and a PMR30, and the only issue I have had other than operator induced rim lock is a broken bolt hold open on the CP33. Kel Tec sent two replacements and a video on how to replace the part.
H.R Got to Love the Joy sticks .
Thank you for posting this. I’ve been on the fence about a couple of these for backpack guns for my wife and I but was hesitant because of the different opinions about reliability. I’m a little more confident about them now. Thanks again 👍
If you decide to get one, be sure to let me know what you think of it.
To begin, Howard I applaud your methodology and I believe your results are meaningful.
Now I have a confession. I won’t own any firearm designed, produced and supported by a manufacturer with a questionable reputation. For example, I won’t depend on a Taurus, despite the facts that (in recent years) their quality seems to be better and a good many individuals I respect have had no problems with their firearms. Further, I have placed Kel-Tec in roughly the same category. But that may be unfair and this Sub-2000 really seems to be a reliable and functional weapons . . . at a very affordable price.
Aggregate reputations can be resorted, of course, but it takes considerable time and managerial effort to do so. Obviously, Remington is currently attempting to resurrect its once stellar stature, and Marlin/Ruger seems to be destined to do so.
I understand completely. I wanted nothing to do with Kel-Tec products for about 20 years after seeing how dismally some of their early pistols performed. Then, a few years ago, I decided to take a chance on a Gen-2 Sub2000. As I mentioned in the video, I've been quite impressed with it. The Gen-3 seems to be equally dependable and adequately accurate for my purposes. As always, thanks for watching and thanks for the comment!
You are either lying through your teeth or you don’t own a single gun. Every gun manufacturer has had some gun that either wasn’t reliable or had issues. Anyone that says otherwise is a god damned liar.
I have a Kel-Tec P-11 9mm pistol that is OVER THIRTY YEARS OLD that still works perfectly---and I got it USED! I have put over 400 rounds of mostly HOT hollowpoints through and it has never failed in any way, EXCEPT with a cheapo aftermarket magazine full of cheapo weak BigMart bulk-box ammo ONE day. It is STILL very accurate and looks like new (stainless steel slide.)
I am convinced that some big name manufacturers use paid ringers to submit fake bad reviews to YooooToooob to make cheaper-priced rivals LOOK BAD. I have SEEN a YouuuToooob reviewer deliberately test using light hollowpoints specifically forbidden by the Kel-Tec owner's manual, and then being SHOCKED and surprised that the .22 magnum pistol did not perform perfectly, just like the manual said it would not! It was embarrassing to see him PRETEND to look surprised and disturbed---he is not an actor! And there are many others, reviewers that you cannot trust, lying for money behind the scenes............................elsullo
Nice test my friend. Kel-Tec gets a bad rap for some reason. I would prefer the Gen 2 if I were to get one though. I do wish they would do something about the reciprocating charging handle.
Thanks Ray. The only time I've ever had an issue with the charging handle has been while firing from the bench. In all fairness, though, that's not what the S2K was meant for.
An interesting and fun experiment. The Kel-Tec performed perfectly. In my experience, UTG makes a better product than the price would suggest. I have several UTG parts for a budget build AR15 and the quality doesn't disappoint.
I agree I have been quite satisfied with several of their products I have used in the past.
Great video. Would like to see more of these type videos with other PPC's. Again thanks...
Ok, see you in 45 years for part 2.
Thank you, great video as usual.
HR great quality test.
Love my 40 cal sub2k, thanks for the tip on the UTG mags, gonna look them up!
I'm not sure if they make them in .40. Check the Leapers website for all their mag offerings.
Excellent presentation
Thanks!
Having a lot of experience with Glock clone magazines, I’ve found that the ones that work best are the ones that follow the original design. The only exception to that are the Shield Arms mags for the G43X/G48 but they are all steel. The steel “frame” covered by “plastic” ones often have the ability to drop free, not so much with the all “plastic” ones. The PMags and ETS mags often swell when they are full, making them not even drop free when fully loaded. I use KCI mags for range use. They can be had for sub $10 too and I’ve had zero malfunctions with them. Now, you have to make sure you get their Gen 2 as they had some issues with their early generations. Anyway, thanks for this video. I have a Just Right Carbine that doesn’t like the mag being used as a support regardless of the brand used.
I’m just glad you are finally getting closer to obtaining Glock Perfection, even if it is one mag at a time! lol 😂 😂😂😂😂
Thanks for the video!!
You’re welcome. Thanks for watching!
Awesome video
KEL-TEK has certainly improved their QC.
Wow! That was certainly a real "Jammomatic!" 😂 😅
*Unreliable!* should be an interesting video. I see very few reviews on firearms that provide, good critical evaluations of them.
Hi guys ; I’ve never fired a key-tec but the local shop sells them so I’m interested, this’ll be good
I'm still running a gen 2 with Beretta mags. I picked it due to being heavily vested in the 92fs/M9 pistol. Still interested in your work with the gen 3.
Two things Chief , the first you should try my friend the in barrel laser for sight adjustment. I set my sights at home before going to the range. It works great. The second is kinda just strange or weird off the wall information but here goes. That was the same model gun used in the Highland park mass shooting. I'm glad it's in the hands of good.
I know. It just goes to show that the firearm has no free will of its own. Everything is determined by the person who possesses that firearm.
@@hrfunk I thought you might!
My new gen 3 has had about 700 rnds run through it. Mostly cheap ball. Zero malfunctions.
No forgetting eye protection for me. I'm left handed and my Sub gen 2 would spray me in the face after every shot. That plus all the plastic caused me to sell it. When I disassembled it I couldn't believe I was looking at a plastic feed ramp.
The thing is, they work.
@hrfunk it did, but for how long is the question. If you go the MCARBO route you're basically rebuilding it to an acceptable standard. Right down to the screw posts. Rather than all that, I sold it and went down the M&P FPC path.
cost effective and reliable !
Cool
Worst case scenario is a good idea
Seems to work ?
Still trying to decide which PCC is for me; Keltek, S&W or Ruger
Tough choice. Let me know which one you select.
It was a tough choice for me. That new SW offering is pretty nice, but so is the price. The only other Keltec i ever owned runs perfectly, so...
I must have missed the UNRELIABLE part of the video. Apparently, this is a very good firearm.
I missed it too, but since people keep insisting the S2K is unreliable, I titled this video appropriately (I guess).
Irony, sarcasm, humor, satire...
Is this where I can say "...there's progress and then there's change?"
What!
👍👍
Well, this certainly should be “illuminating.”
Yup. Run the gen 2 9mm. with Glock mags, and Amend 2 thirty three round mags. Various ammunition zero malfunctions. Reliable, American made. Affordable, and ya gotta love the portability of the fold. 😊
i know what you mean, everyone expects a torture test it seems but i am against torture tests because when weapon is made ready for defense use wich will only be a few seconds in a defense incident it will be already clean, have lube and a cold barrel, a tourture test deprives weapon of cleaning, lube and cold barrel by over heating it, wich doesnt prove anything for the context of usage wich is not a battle field of constant fire but a personal defense application. we dont torture test our vehicles pulling the oil plug and putting brick on gas pedal to prove to someone how reliable our vehicle is and same with guns in those crazy tourture tests prove nothing because we are not going to use guns in the method they torture them. short simulated defense drills are good enough for testing a gun that has been cleaned, lubed and a cold barrel, this is how a gun is going to enter a defense situation, your not going to melt your barrel and start it on fire in any gun fight, if so it means we are not hitting the target if we need 1000 rounds of non stop firing, so torture tests make no sense for most firearms we are using in the context of short defense situations as private citizen
Well said. The same thing applies to torture tests of optics. If I devise some wildly unrealistic test and manage to destroy an optic, the only thing I have proven is that it can be broken. The same might be said of virtually anything constructed by human beings.
@@hrfunkexactly, drop optic from a 50 story building, put it in a bucket of mud or put it in water and freeze it, its crazy
@@libra7624 all the evidence based logic and clear thinking of a fellow Libra...we are so inherently sagacious!
Good shooting. It got boring watching you out-shoot me:10x, 10x,10x... Both magazines worked and the Sub2000 digested all the ammo that you fed it.
With an optic, it's an easy firearm to shoot well. I'm still looking for the reliability problems people keep telling me these things are prone to.
Listen its made from MT dew bottles but these SOB just run ..had 2 and hate them but they run
Why do You hate them?
Keltec marketing, “we’re better than a rock”.
A Rock is quieter and more plentiful it doesn't have misfires or hand fires . 😅
Rock quality varies and is inconsistent…
Better than a rock? That might depend upon the size of the rock and the distance from which it falls.
If there's one thing I've learned from over a decade of watching gun videos on UA-cam is someone will ALWAYS question your reliability test results
And someone will always believe if it doesn't start with Glock it isn't reliable.
So why is this video titled unreliable?
Because that’s what people keep telling me about the S2K. Weird huh?
@@hrfunk Ok, kinda gives the wrong impression to someone just scrolling who’s considering purchasing one? But ok, guess they gotta watch. I had a Gen 1 & just didn’t like the sight picture/cheek positioning, but been considering getting the Gen3 because of the new folding design that allows for a permanent red dot attachment.
If you get one, be sure to let me know what you think of it.
My RDB was garbage and of course I got no help from Keltec
That's kind of surprising. They seem to be proud of their customer service.
NOT unreliable!!Maybe a question mark in the title??
I was simply restating some of the sentiments I've received.
True, there’s a lot of snobbery out there. OTOH, if you did find a problem I’m confident you will discuss it fairly and accurately.
Absolutely.
Well she's a keltec soooooo...
Well can't expect to much from a gun made out of recycled beer cans and recycled milk jugs 😂
Commented before you watched eh?
Obviously this was posted before the video and was meant to be a joke based on what other guntubers have said about the Kel-Tec.
@@raybo34 that may be true, but it's not obvious.
I think the title "Unreliable!" should be changed to "Unreliable?" to indicate you are testing the weapon versus saying its bad before you even begin. The title is misleading some viewers 😅
The title is simply a reflection of the opinion people keep expressing to me with regard to this firearm. Seems kind of strange, doesn’t it?
Would respectfully suggest you change the title of this video as a lot of people will just see the title and not watch the video or read the comments, to see that the carbine was actually reliable.
. Thank you. I understand your concern. I chose this title purposely, because it conveys the opinion people keep expressing to me with regard to this firearm.
@@hrfunk I figured you did, but I don't think you are doing the gun or manufacturer any favors with the title. I almost didn't watch the video myself, and would have gone away with the wrong idea.
@@10thmtn86 Thanks again. I may change the exclamation mark to a question mark, but I'm going to wait a little longer before I do. It seems to me that people who express a negative opinion about a firearm, when they have little or no experience with that firearm, are far more detrimental than my title.
I'll still never buy a Kel-Tec. To each hisown.
I said the same thing for over 20 years.
I've stopped watching another yt channel for misleading video titles
The title simply reflects the opinion people keep expressing to me with regard to this firearm. Your displeasure might better be directed toward such individuals.
Yeah, hrfunk does it all the time!
Overpriced &unreliable
Buy a g19 & a micro roni
By the time you buy the pistol, you'll have more invested in that system.
I actully tried that system twice and it seemed reasonably viable.
I almost liked it!
For me I could never get the accuracy I required at distance.
Good morning, HRFUNK and family. ☕️🥓🧇🥯. Man! That! Looks fun. I've heard that UTG keeps on improving their quality control in their products. Now! You need to find a duel 50-round drum magazine. O!!!!! YEA!!!!
I agree. Leapers (parent company of UTG) had an impressive display at the NRA meeting. The more I use their products, the more impressed I am with them.
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