Ned Rorem / Symphony No. 3 (Bernstein)

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  • Опубліковано 27 вер 2024

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  • @Twentythousandlps
    @Twentythousandlps 4 роки тому +6

    Bernstein said in prepared remarks at this concert: "the Third Symphony of Ned Rorem is a frankly romantic work, appealing, tender, lyrical; and spiced with jazz elements in its 2nd and final movements. Actually Rorem is best known for his songs; he is a marvelous composer for the voice; his lyricism is true and deep inside him; and it shows up in his longer works as well. Perhaps we could call this a song-symphony, with a few dance movements for relief. Listen particularly hard to the two short movements in the middle, one after the other; they are the key to the whole work."

    • @alexkije
      @alexkije 2 роки тому

      Very well said!

  • @JohnPennello
    @JohnPennello 10 років тому +5

    The third and forth movements are super beautiful! Such delicate sensitivity.

  • @pavelbezukhov
    @pavelbezukhov 11 років тому +5

    This has been a favorite work of mine since I was a child. I'm so glad to finally get to hear the Bernstein recording. Thank you so much for posting this lesser known gem.

  • @jacklaw7932
    @jacklaw7932 10 років тому +4

    This give me bittersweet memories of New York City.

  • @vladislovkyzinski3430
    @vladislovkyzinski3430 8 років тому +2

    WOW! Am revisiting this delightful symphony. There are so many diverse motifs in this bittersweet sounding work. I hear music quite like Leonard Bernstein used in West Side Story around 7:04. Show biz motifs. Snatches of 1950s TV show underscore. It is tragic that music like this is not more widely played. But Thank God for UA-cam. But no thanks to the rather snide remarks of the queens. God may forgive the evil in their hearts.

    • @Obaysch
      @Obaysch 7 років тому

      Vladislov Kyzinski snide remarks from queens are quite apropos with Rorem, who has specialized in that. Love this master dearly anyway.

    • @alexkije
      @alexkije 2 роки тому

      It's the music. Don't knock the composer, per se.

  • @jimstokes6742
    @jimstokes6742 7 років тому +1

    I like the 1st and the last movements. And I very much like the painting Summer Night by George Bellows.

  • @7karlheinz
    @7karlheinz Місяць тому

    I love Bernstein, but Abravenel’s recording on Turnabout (conducting the Utah Symphony Orchestra) is still my favorite version of this symphony.

  • @jacklaw7932
    @jacklaw7932 10 років тому +3

    I hear a West Side Story motif here. Most likely coincidence or inadvertent use of Rorem's theme by Bernstein. Danged if I know or anyone else does. The beginnings of WSS go waaaay back to 1947. Fascinating how the storyine evolved!
    But listen to the last movement of Sym #3 here, and you'll hear the Jet's theme from WSS. But then Rorem also has what sounds like the opening phrase to Another Opening, Another Show, too.

    • @jerryhagen5926
      @jerryhagen5926 5 років тому

      Most likely synchronicity. Birds of a feather. After all, Ned and Lenny were both homosexual, which I don't hold against them.

    • @jdoggtn7
      @jdoggtn7 4 роки тому

      Check out the prelude to the first act of Blitzstein's Regina. Bernstein plagiarized it note for note to make "Maria" in West Side Story. Of course he and Blitzstein had a "thing" going at one time.

    • @alexkije
      @alexkije 2 роки тому

      @@jerryhagen5926 hahah. They held each other. Everybody needs somebody, sometime. I'll take a redhead, brunette, or blond lass or lady.

  • @sergejtikhonov4962
    @sergejtikhonov4962 Рік тому

    The opening theme is "O Fortuna" reminiscence. Isn't it?..
    R.I.P., mesmerizing Ned Rorem !

  • @vladislovkyzinski3430
    @vladislovkyzinski3430 10 років тому +2

    AHA! This is LIVE. In the recording, there's is an added "cha-cha-cha" phrase at the very end! And the first movement is more uptempo!

  • @giovannismartini479
    @giovannismartini479 6 років тому

    The Largo reminds me the rautavaarian strings writing, even though it was two or three decades before !

  • @alexkije
    @alexkije 2 роки тому

    AHA! Starting at 7:00. It wounds like "Something's Coming" from West Side Story. Parts of this symphony would to well a s underscore to tough movie set in NYC.

  • @patrickmichaud9076
    @patrickmichaud9076 Рік тому +1

    Magnifique symphonie. Superbe interprétation de Leonard Bernstein.
    Wonderful Symphony like Leonard Bernstein performance

  • @Twentythousandlps
    @Twentythousandlps 6 років тому

    By 1958 most of the younger composers had a more chromatic, dissonant style, and Rorem himself went in that direction later.(Try his Piano Concerto no. 3, for example.) But a conductor today would be more apt to choose this for an audience to hear. Far more "relatable".

  • @jacklaw7932
    @jacklaw7932 8 років тому +1

    VIVA NED ROREM. Another good Ameri/Norsky composer.

    • @Glinkaism1
      @Glinkaism1 8 років тому

      +Jack Law WH00PY ludefiske!

  • @yowzephyr
    @yowzephyr 3 роки тому

    Alas I am allergic to mono. I think it's a headphones thing. If I had speakers maybe it wouldn't bother me so much.

    • @alexkije
      @alexkije 2 роки тому

      Get used to it, snowflake.

  • @written12
    @written12 6 років тому

    Great music and the perfect conductor for it.
    The nasty exchange between the painfully snobby, on the one hand, and the gay bashes, on the other, was quite unexpected and sickening. Oh, and there was some Latino bashing as well.

  • @MrInterestingthings
    @MrInterestingthings 8 років тому +4

    My dear , that's because ring fights and 50's movies are all you 've ever been exposed to .Try expanding your horizons and you'll get more pleasured references when you listen to music . Ned Rorem is one of the greatest living American Masters .Of course you don't know how to listen so just be quiet . Why are the ignorant always making pronouncements in public ?

    • @ivanmanuellarcodegregori4481
      @ivanmanuellarcodegregori4481 8 років тому

      My English is not so well, but I'm agree with you, Ignorance is audacious and insolent, that is the case of Mr. Vladislov Kyzinski.
      Ned Rorem is so high that he can't see and listen this marvelous music.

    • @ivanmanuellarcodegregori4481
      @ivanmanuellarcodegregori4481 8 років тому +1

      +Roger Wilco ¿A qué le temes Roger Wilco (si ese es tu nombre) a tu homosexualidad o a tu ignorancia?
      What are you afraid of Roger Wilco (If that is your name) to your homosexuality or your ignorance?

    • @RichardASalisbury1
      @RichardASalisbury1 7 років тому

      ". . . where would should be spelled 'you've' That just for starters." Huh? Your grammar, syntax, etc. are worse than his, and your comments even snarkier and more juvenile. Grow up and just enjoy the music.

    • @heterosectional
      @heterosectional 5 років тому

      @@jimstokes6742 no shit. does a bear defecate in the woods? hahaha

    • @carloscuadrosoriundocarlos6523
      @carloscuadrosoriundocarlos6523 5 років тому

      @@heterosectional What are you afraid of Roger Regor (If that is your name) to your homosexuality or your ignorance?

  • @billyoumans1784
    @billyoumans1784 Рік тому +1

    Sorry to hear of Ned’s passing. I knew him a little. Rip.

  • @heterosectional
    @heterosectional 10 років тому +4

    What's the painting?
    I have a recording of this on cassette that I taped off the radio years ago. It starts at the crescendo at about 0:29. I thought that's how it started. And have got so used to it I rather like it upcut like that. :)

    • @kicsiobi
      @kicsiobi 6 років тому +2

      The painting is George Wesley Bellows: Summer Night, Riverside Drive (1909)

    • @alexkije
      @alexkije Рік тому +1

      @@kicsiobi Ah, I see it. Thanks for the whole title. It is utterly grand from a much better time. So intricate and for-real!

  • @fgldnglbs
    @fgldnglbs 10 років тому +3

    @Jack Law: Can't be. West Side Story opened in 1956, while this was written in 1958. Bernstein and Rorem apparently took a few dabs from the same palette.

    • @Glinkaism1
      @Glinkaism1 8 років тому

      +fgldnglbs Aha! :)

    • @davidking663
      @davidking663 3 роки тому

      And they both loved Aaron Copland!

    • @alexkije
      @alexkije 2 роки тому

      Hey! There ya go. However, I bet Ned took several years to compose this.

  • @jimstokes6742
    @jimstokes6742 8 років тому +2

    I like the painting, too. Thanks for the explanation of the score.

  • @vladislovkyzinski3430
    @vladislovkyzinski3430 10 років тому +2

    Sounds like music for a gritty NYC b&w movie of the 50s. The bell at about :45 sounds like the bell to start fight in a ring.

    • @vladislovkyzinski3430
      @vladislovkyzinski3430 10 років тому +1

      8:12 sounds like "Another opening, another show" quote. :)

    • @Glinkaism1
      @Glinkaism1 8 років тому +2

      +Vladislov Kyzinski Indeed! Very astute.

    • @Glinkaism1
      @Glinkaism1 8 років тому +2

      +Roger Wilco By golly, I think you may be right, Vlad.

    • @jacklaw7932
      @jacklaw7932 8 років тому +1

      +Vladislov Kyzinski My gosh, yes!!! Like music for a 1950s film.

  • @williametheridge1764
    @williametheridge1764 Рік тому

    No. Tries too hard

  • @marcelolasta6636
    @marcelolasta6636 4 роки тому

    Muuuuy buena!!