William Halsey said: "There are no extraordinary men... just extraordinary circumstances that ordinary men are forced to deal with." A hero is an ordinary person who rises to the occasion. We need to get rid of this idea that our heroes need to be perfect. Lincoln, MLK, Mandela, Churchill, etc. are no less heroic because of their flaws. In fact, they can be emulated BECAUSE of those flaws: it means any of us can also do good.
@@jackalkin6757 Exactly, which was my main point. Should a personal failing discount great deeds? The point was that we should not automatically throw someone in the rubbish bin because they were not perfect. There is no such thing as a perfect human and the good should be weighed against the bad. In some cases, like Hitler and Stalin, the bad far outweighs the good. Others, like those I mentioned and some on this list, the good outweighs the bad.
@@hectorsmommy1717 well yeah, but there are some interesting ethical questions that arise. Do you prosecute a hero who raped his daughter? Most would say yes, but that limits the good they can do in the future. Im not making an argument against doing that, but its interesting. On top of that, I get that no ones perfect, but I have never done the terrible things on the list. Being a hero doesnt give you a free pass, and I consider those who think that it does as non heros.
We can admire their accomplishments, (both living and dead), we really shouldn't put people on a pedestal. To quote Shakespeare, "The evil that men do lives after them, the good is often interred with their bones. "
@@maxwelljacobs8830 actually, no, not gay. Women were for making babies and caring for the house. A "youth," or a young man between 16 and 25, who wasn't married, might be "educated" by an older man, generally married. This was considered normal and the idea was that the elder would show the younger things about being a free man in Greek society. Yes, they had sex, with the elder always in control, but that was considered part of the education. Not our way, but also no "gay."
The last three are products of their time. Einstein would be great in today’s time. Lincoln would be more anti racist in today’s time Aristotle would be more feminist in today’s time. Their eras formed certain behaviors within them.
I already know about John Lennon's abuse of both of his wives, that's a very sad 😭 story. And he was also was jealous of his former partner Sir Paul McCartney 🤔.
And how ironic is it when Lincoln didn’t classify the slaves as being American; as if he was the first to walk among the land 😂 Edit: One sweet day the human population will realize that they never had any claim over any land.
I heard in an interview with someone who had worked with Walt Disney that he was also a racist. There was a case once of the studio hiring a Hindu man, and when Walt saw him, he said "What's that n-- doing on my property?" They explained to him that the guy was Indian, not African American, but he still insisted on the man being fired.
@@hydrolito What does that have to do with what the OP said? But okay. I'll add that if India is making more movies than Hollywood (Which wouldn't exactly be a surprise) you pretty much have to go to India to see them. The rest of the world says, " meh...whatever." Oh, but wait. I heard somebody somewhere said there's a huge market for Bollywood in, uh, Canada. And Yemen, too. Hooray.
Well, if we're looking at numbers instead of scale, then NASCAR drivers aren't really speed demons; the majority of their driving is outside of work, where they're stuck with speed limits 😏
Roll over, Chuck Berry. Sister Rosetta Tharpe beat him by at least a decade as far as being an originator of rock and roll. She even proceeded him in doing a version of the Chuck Berry "duck walk".
Thank you, and your whole team for making such amazing videos, they bring me a lot of joy and no matter how bad of a day I am having or how much pain I am in. Please keep up the good work and don't let other people's comments discourage you!
Terrible person and in NJ he's treated like a saint. We are literally taught about him from K-12th grade. He was great at taking credit for things he did not do and extremely greedy
@@timkramar9729 it wasn't he didn't like them. Some he did. He just couldn't raise them because he had a hard time predict their actions. But he cheated on his sick so I agree he should have been one hear
Like Marilyn Monroe.. And before she started dating the Kennedy Brothers, she was actually the girlfriend of Sonny Franzese (the world's oldest living mafioso)
This was raised in Red Dwarf in the time hopping episode when they go back to the time when JFK was supposed to be killed and remembered as a ‘good guy’ instead of becoming a terrible president!
Wow! He could have gone a LOT further if he wanted to, The “Rat Pack” of the 50s and 60’s campaigned hard for JFK especially Sammy Davis Jr. When JFK was elected he invited the Pack to come to the Inauguration Ball…. Except Sammy Davis Jr. Because he had a white wife, they all knew how hard Sammy worked for him, gave speeches for him and used his popularity to help JFK win. But he was too racist to invite him to the inauguration. Frank Sinatra for 0ne, I don’t know about how many did NOT go because of Sammy treatment,
rewatched. excellent closing. again welcome back guys. you really are great content and are of my first as well as longest lasting continuously watched subscriptions since I got into UA-cam so many years ago now.
Glad you put that disclaimer on the end. This writer expressed more opinions than facts and used anecdotal moments as proof, which is a lazy way to support his/her ideas.
Lincoln changed his mind and developed respect for black slaves as great American citizens with the outstanding bravery, cunning and stamina of 200,000 Colored Troops in the US Civil War. He said so in his 2nd inaugural address.
When it comes to Aristotle, his beliefs of women were common for the time. That, of course, does NOT excuse him, but context is important. And let's face it: every woman has met a man like that.
@@MS-sr6mj I never said it was. It's just important to note that he was not the only one at that time to think that way. When you take that into consideration, it isn't just him that was wrong about it. It does not excuse him; it merely offers an explanation as to why he thought the way he did.
If you had read my statement thoroughly, you would have noticed that I had stated that it did not excuse him. Meaning that I noted that it was not okay or excusable. I do apologize if this was not clear.
You are forgetting that these people were products of their times. Cash, King and Ali grew up close to our times, so we can use modern morals to look at them the rest grew up in different times and social norms
Verbally, emotionally and physically abusive towards his entire family. I've never watched any of his films since I found out about his off-screen personality.
@@randibgood don't know about his wife. His estranged sons alleged his daughters made it up. One of his daughters said he was a good father. I'm only saying what I heard.
He hated it because his dad would force him to do labor for neighbors and then take the money. It made him furious that one man would do the work and not see a penny for it. Sorry for the 3 year later flogging on a dead comment.
He murdered hundreds of his own people. He was a terrorist and thanks to the liberal USA start the destruction of a super country. Look at it now. A shadow of what it used to be.
It would be a mistake to assume they were above mistakes. They were human afterall. Some were a product of their time, others didn't live long to regret or realize their own stupidity. Still, we should appreciate and focus their contributions to society, because we are not better than they were.
@@pandapegasus5597 Oprah creates a false "culture of whining" but is ruthless in her business life. She has carried 'feel sorry for me' all the way to the bank.
1:04 What about Alexander’s best friend late in life (believed to be his lover) whose passing left Alexander inconsolable with some people saying he gave up on life?
I am a South Asian-Canadian. So I learned a bit more about famous people in India. Gandhi actually REFUSED to support Muslims and Buddhists who were also fighting the oppressors such as the British, French, and other European superpowers. In fact, when the British started killing Buddhist monks in majority Buddhist Sri Lanka plus the uprising lead to a shortage of food. The Sri Lankan people asked Gandhi's help. His response can be LOOSELY translated to, "I will send you shovels to bury the dead and plant trees for food". Mother Theresa is a criminal according to the current Geneva Convention on Human Rights. She forced children into Christianity. She separated children from parents who refused to convert. She refused to help anyone who asks for food but refused god. She plays the judge, jury, and prosecutor, which is against Christian values. Mother Theresa also had a vindictive vengeance against Hinduism and Buddhism. In fact, she advocated violence against Buddhists and Hindus who refuse Christianity by provocation (blocking access to drinking water supplies, blocking access to food, etc, etc. Imagine if someone block access to oil, gas and free-markets to the USA today? Ooops nevermind, they do create wars!). She is a religious imperialist and we will call those people White Saviour Syndrome.
Dr Duess was an absolute awful man. He cheated on his wife when she had Cancer and she eventually committed suicide but her suicide note didn't say anything bad about him so that his fans wouldn't know the kind of person he truly was. He later went on to marry the woman he had been cheating with.
We are all the products of the times we live in. Just as what was acceptable 100 years ago isn't now, what we view as morally acceptable now will undoubtedly be questionable 100 years from now.
Many physicist today would claimed that physics might be vastly different without Einstein. His insight on relativity is groundbreaking to say the least..
And this you know how? The most public information is that of Winnie cheating on him with now EFF party member, Dali Mpofu. Upon Mandela's return, he faced ridicule from this and could only last in the marriage for a few years before calling it off.
Is it casting stones to remind other that all people have faults or have done bad things .... Celeb idolatry is a pervasive problem in the us. This tends to lead us to forget their downsides while unabashedly praising them.
And Jesus himself had a lot of flaws, if you've actually read the Bible. NOT the gentle soul so often depicted talking to children while holding a lamb.....
The thing about Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. is that he (like more genuine leaders than we want to accept) could bring together the scattered ideals of others and unify them. One of his best quotes, *_A genuine leader is not a searcher for consensus but a molder of consensus. _* is simplified version of that ideology. Jesus Christ also did the same while adding his own words as well, which we are all to do. Also, Abraham Lincoln changed those views on black people on visiting both the battlefield and nearby cemeteries of Gettysburg when he accepted Jesus Christ as Lord. Lastly, the irony that so many Leftists (John Lennon and Karl Marx for example) are some of the most racist misogynist slime on the planet should surprise NO ONE.
Some Greeks had higher estimate of females as Athena was the goddess of wisdom, also of disabled as Hephaestus was disabled and the god of logic, also called by Romans Vulcan where we get Star Trek character Mr. Spock a Vulcan that likes to emphasize logic. On Star Trek Romulans had planets Romulus and Remus that were supposed names of founders of Rome. So much of Star Trek is based on mythology they even encountered Apollo in one episode. Romulus also was recorded as killing his brother Remus, so not a role model either. After Attila the Huns death his sons fought against each other and his empire fell apart. So history is filled with flawed people.
Can't fact check all of them, but the Ghandi one is very missleading. He went to bed late at night after being told to do so by his Uncle. After being by his father's side for a long time, a few minutes later he died.
It was comedic how the father of Communism had a dark side of missing his dad's funeral. A bit like mentioning that Ted Bundy didn't really appreciate women.
I knew Mr Rogers and Bob Ross wouldn't be on the list. I'm also happy bot to see Louisa May Alcott, a childhood icon. Freud was definitely a great influence on understanding the hidden mind, but many of his theories were influenced by misogyny. AND, he allowed money and zeitgeist to influence how he treated and viewed real problems his female patients had with abuse. Everything else pails in comparison to dismissing abuse and then forming theories based on pressure rather than evidence.
I agree that women have a different place than a man in a proper family structure but not that they're of any lesser value; in a sense, they're of MORE value. Without a woman, a man is incomplete. The men do the physical work in and out of the house, teach various life skills, etc., but the women nurture the family, raise/educate the children with meaningful values (schooling included), teach how things are to be taken care of in and around the house and on one's person, but both parents never hold back their unending love and affection for eachother and the family. These values make for a successful, happy, and fulfilled family that doesn't end up growing apart.
Weird question. Is this channel your "career"? Or do you have another job? And is it just you that records and edits the video and the research and everything? Or how many people does it take to put it all together? Ik. Probably sounds weird. Just kinda popped in my head I guess?...lol 🤷♀️
Lincoln's colonization ideas predated Emancipation. By the end of the war, he had abandoned them. Abraham Lincoln is one of the most profound stories of personal growth in American life. He went from a racist free-soiler in 1858 to a full on good guy (per Frederick Douglass, whose judgment I trust in such things).
I didn't attend my father's funeral either. My mother took a nervous breakdown, our car was fucked, and no one from his side of the family did not make the trip to come and get me. 😭
Yeah, well that doesn't make it ok. It's still discusting. I think the same about certain countries. Age of consent being so young is just gross and wrong. Nothing anyone says will ever change my mind about that.
Some states 15 and 16 or even younger were age of consent. Elvis Presley met Priscilla when she was 14, and Jerry Lee Lewis married a young cousin which was 13 if what I read is correct.
And they were all wrong and gross! Just because something is legal does not make it morally right. They knew they were messing with children! None of that is excusable!
4:12 Racism is racism, no matter what race the instigator is and what race the target is. I’ve encountered racism from both black and white people. The white people have mostly claimed it as a joke, but still
Love this video ... Millennials discover all people have flaws, and act like nobody else knew this. No ones perfect including the person writing this message (me), the person reading this (you) nor the people making this video.
My parents always told me that Nelson Mandela was a terrorist and nothing else. It wasn't until I entered high school, where I learned of apartheid and what you're "supposed" to think about him. Not even gonna talk about the irony of the whole situation with non Africans living in South Africa today.
One thing i have found out about famous and "Great men" and now women is that they may have been great at what they did but were not family people, to put it lightly
I disagree with the #1 pick. Everyone at that time viewed women as second class citizens, including men, women, children, and slaves. That view continues to this day. Think about how often men versus women make the top 25 lists... GIRL POWER!
You know you’re probably making people angry. Lincoln was known to have said something that should be so obvious but simple. He said “A man should not have the right to Own another man. And John Lennon was not nearly as bad in life as people who are jealous because of his talent! As the Beatles were such Hugh band and everyone , especially young Girls. The liked them for something most boy did not. .
William Halsey said: "There are no extraordinary men... just extraordinary circumstances that ordinary men are forced to deal with." A hero is an ordinary person who rises to the occasion. We need to get rid of this idea that our heroes need to be perfect. Lincoln, MLK, Mandela, Churchill, etc. are no less heroic because of their flaws. In fact, they can be emulated BECAUSE of those flaws: it means any of us can also do good.
Does the same go for someone like hitler? He was just put in an unfortunate circumstance and tried to solve the problem in his own creative way
While I will agree with the commentators of this post, there' one other thing, you guys must know.
No-one's perfect.
@@jackalkin6757 Exactly, which was my main point. Should a personal failing discount great deeds? The point was that we should not automatically throw someone in the rubbish bin because they were not perfect. There is no such thing as a perfect human and the good should be weighed against the bad. In some cases, like Hitler and Stalin, the bad far outweighs the good. Others, like those I mentioned and some on this list, the good outweighs the bad.
@@hectorsmommy1717 well yeah, but there are some interesting ethical questions that arise. Do you prosecute a hero who raped his daughter? Most would say yes, but that limits the good they can do in the future. Im not making an argument against doing that, but its interesting. On top of that, I get that no ones perfect, but I have never done the terrible things on the list. Being a hero doesnt give you a free pass, and I consider those who think that it does as non heros.
William Halsey quote.
We can admire their accomplishments, (both living and dead), we really shouldn't put people on a pedestal. To quote Shakespeare, "The evil that men do lives after them, the good is often interred with their bones. "
Aristotle was GREEK, none of the Greeks of the time thought too highly of women.
Leah McGrew lmao they were all gay
@@maxwelljacobs8830 actually, no, not gay. Women were for making babies and caring for the house. A "youth," or a young man between 16 and 25, who wasn't married, might be "educated" by an older man, generally married. This was considered normal and the idea was that the elder would show the younger things about being a free man in Greek society. Yes, they had sex, with the elder always in control, but that was considered part of the education. Not our way, but also no "gay."
Neither do a lot of men now but here we are
You're going to receive a lot of flack for this one. I applaud you.
The last three are products of their time. Einstein would be great in today’s time. Lincoln would be more anti racist in today’s time Aristotle would be more feminist in today’s time. Their eras formed certain behaviors within them.
Agreed
overrated, jerk? What has u done in your life? How u compare someone from past to the future.....literally that shows how dumb u are
@J Bisker hahaha wtf man guys like u need to be treated...get some help man
@J Bisker lol wrong reply sorry
Lincoln was never racist. He understood people.
You should make a list of history's bad guys who had a surprising bright side.
A way tougher list to research, to be sure.
Adolph Hitler was a tea totalling vegetarian who wouldnt stand for
anyone mistreating a dog.
@@danielkokal8819 He was also a militant non-smoker and had programs to help his soldiers quit. This was back in the 1930s.
tHANK yOU FOR BRINGING OUT THE TRUTH ABOUT John Lennon.
I already know about John Lennon's abuse of both of his wives, that's a very sad 😭 story. And he was also was jealous of his former partner Sir Paul McCartney 🤔.
And how ironic is it when Lincoln didn’t classify the slaves as being American; as if he was the first to walk among the land 😂
Edit: One sweet day the human population will realize that they never had any claim over any land.
I heard in an interview with someone who had worked with Walt Disney that he was also a racist. There was a case once of the studio hiring a Hindu man, and when Walt saw him, he said "What's that n-- doing on my property?" They explained to him that the guy was Indian, not African American, but he still insisted on the man being fired.
And he was also very antisemitic and believed in eugenics
Walt Disney was not a good human in my opinion! He obviously created a wonderful fantasy world that we can enjoy today, but I don’t like him.
Now India is making more movies than Hollywood.
Walt Disney was a horrible example of a human.
@@hydrolito What does that have to do with what the OP said? But okay. I'll add that if India is making more movies than Hollywood (Which wouldn't exactly be a surprise) you pretty much have to go to India to see them. The rest of the world says, " meh...whatever." Oh, but wait. I heard somebody somewhere said there's a huge market for Bollywood in, uh, Canada. And Yemen, too. Hooray.
My father taught me long ago. There is no such thing as inherently great or evil people. We are the sum of our decisions both good bad.
The world is ran by sociopaths
Just because you accidentally start one fire doesn't make you a "firestarter". That is stretching things a bit.
I mean he started a pretty big one
Well, if we're looking at numbers instead of scale, then NASCAR drivers aren't really speed demons; the majority of their driving is outside of work, where they're stuck with speed limits 😏
The dude killed 49 ENDANGERED animals!
@@RookyFury57 - key word ACCIDENTALLY. Yes it was wrong, but not intentional
@@RookyFury57 - key word ACCIDENTALLY. Yes it was wrong, but not intentional
Roll over, Chuck Berry. Sister Rosetta Tharpe beat him by at least a decade as far as being an originator of rock and roll. She even proceeded him in doing a version of the Chuck Berry "duck walk".
Worthwhile video. For most of the persons cited, there are numerous other significant flaws. You only scratched the surface.
Thank you, and your whole team for making such amazing videos, they bring me a lot of joy and no matter how bad of a day I am having or how much pain I am in. Please keep up the good work and don't let other people's comments discourage you!
Where is Edison?
QAISAR BEGUM absolutely!!! Terrible terrible cruel and greedy man!
Terrible person and in NJ he's treated like a saint. We are literally taught about him from K-12th grade. He was great at taking credit for things he did not do and extremely greedy
Great list! I thought Dr. Seuss would have been here.
Melon Cornets oh yeah, he cheated on his wife when she had cancer
Theodore Giselle.
Yeah that was kinda shocking to see that he wasnt on here.
He didn't actually like children.
@@timkramar9729 it wasn't he didn't like them. Some he did. He just couldn't raise them because he had a hard time predict their actions. But he cheated on his sick so I agree he should have been one hear
JFK had many affairs as well
Like Marilyn Monroe.. And before she started dating the Kennedy Brothers, she was actually the girlfriend of Sonny Franzese (the world's oldest living mafioso)
This was raised in Red Dwarf in the time hopping episode when they go back to the time when JFK was supposed to be killed and remembered as a ‘good guy’ instead of becoming a terrible president!
@Jo Gill Lots of people do drugs and are successful. I know some.
Just goes to show that not one single soul that’s ever existed in this world was or is perfect.
Wow! He could have gone a LOT further if he wanted to, The “Rat Pack” of the 50s and 60’s campaigned hard for JFK especially Sammy Davis Jr. When JFK was elected he invited the Pack to come to the Inauguration Ball…. Except Sammy Davis Jr. Because he had a white wife, they all knew how hard Sammy worked for him, gave speeches for him and used his popularity to help JFK win. But he was too racist to invite him to the inauguration. Frank Sinatra for 0ne, I don’t know about how many did NOT go because of Sammy treatment,
Jesus was, but we’re not meant to be perfect.
Keanu Reeves: (He’s breathtaking)
This was not an " easy " or popular opinion top25 video. kudos for your courage ☆
You know something heavy is coming when Mike says “However”
I bet Mike and Tristan have some interesting "dark secrets"......lol
I heard they like to take baths together.
Who doesn't?
rewatched. excellent closing. again welcome back guys. you really are great content and are of my first as well as longest lasting continuously watched subscriptions since I got into UA-cam so many years ago now.
Awesome! Thank you!
Good men still have flaws but are still used for the greater good.
Glad you put that disclaimer on the end. This writer expressed more opinions than facts and used anecdotal moments as proof, which is a lazy way to support his/her ideas.
Lincoln changed his mind and developed respect for black slaves as great American citizens with the outstanding bravery, cunning and stamina of 200,000 Colored Troops in the US Civil War. He said so in his 2nd inaugural address.
When it comes to Aristotle, his beliefs of women were common for the time. That, of course, does NOT excuse him, but context is important. And let's face it: every woman has met a man like that.
@@MS-sr6mj I never said it was. It's just important to note that he was not the only one at that time to think that way. When you take that into consideration, it isn't just him that was wrong about it. It does not excuse him; it merely offers an explanation as to why he thought the way he did.
If you had read my statement thoroughly, you would have noticed that I had stated that it did not excuse him. Meaning that I noted that it was not okay or excusable. I do apologize if this was not clear.
You are forgetting that these people were products of their times. Cash, King and Ali grew up close to our times, so we can use modern morals to look at them the rest grew up in different times and social norms
You missed Bing Crosby, he was extremely abusive towards his wife.
And his sons, too.
Verbally, emotionally and physically abusive towards his entire family. I've never watched any of his films since I found out about his off-screen personality.
@@randibgood That isn't true. His sons even admit he made it up
@@andywinslow9638 I don't know what his sons said. I know what his wife and daughters reported.
@@randibgood don't know about his wife. His estranged sons alleged his daughters made it up. One of his daughters said he was a good father. I'm only saying what I heard.
The think Abraham Lincoln didn't like about slavery when the slave owners sold the kids of the slave's off to never to see there parent's ever again
He hated it because his dad would force him to do labor for neighbors and then take the money. It made him furious that one man would do the work and not see a penny for it. Sorry for the 3 year later flogging on a dead comment.
I get the feeling that you will get an incredible amount of hate thrown your way over this, but the truth is the truth.
Not to mention all of the “necklacing” that Mandela and his wife favored….
He murdered hundreds of his own people. He was a terrorist and thanks to the liberal USA start the destruction of a super country. Look at it now. A shadow of what it used to be.
It would be a mistake to assume they were above mistakes. They were human afterall. Some were a product of their time, others didn't live long to regret or realize their own stupidity. Still, we should appreciate and focus their contributions to society, because we are not better than they were.
Hey Fella, nice video. I haven't been to your channel lately!
Number 1: That's nothing new. That was a typical way of thinking from Ancient Civilizations up to XXth Century.
I dont like oprah Winfrey
Agreed
A feminist turns out to be a sanctimonious asshole?
Where is this world coming to...
Why not
@@pandapegasus5597 Oprah creates a false "culture of whining" but is ruthless in her business life. She has carried 'feel sorry for me' all the way to the bank.
what do you think about the idea that black people cant be racist?
1:04 What about Alexander’s best friend late in life (believed to be his lover) whose passing left Alexander inconsolable with some people saying he gave up on life?
Thank you for your honesty! Good man!
I am a South Asian-Canadian. So I learned a bit more about famous people in India. Gandhi actually REFUSED to support Muslims and Buddhists who were also fighting the oppressors such as the British, French, and other European superpowers. In fact, when the British started killing Buddhist monks in majority Buddhist Sri Lanka plus the uprising lead to a shortage of food. The Sri Lankan people asked Gandhi's help. His response can be LOOSELY translated to, "I will send you shovels to bury the dead and plant trees for food". Mother Theresa is a criminal according to the current Geneva Convention on Human Rights. She forced children into Christianity. She separated children from parents who refused to convert. She refused to help anyone who asks for food but refused god. She plays the judge, jury, and prosecutor, which is against Christian values. Mother Theresa also had a vindictive vengeance against Hinduism and Buddhism. In fact, she advocated violence against Buddhists and Hindus who refuse Christianity by provocation (blocking access to drinking water supplies, blocking access to food, etc, etc. Imagine if someone block access to oil, gas and free-markets to the USA today? Ooops nevermind, they do create wars!). She is a religious imperialist and we will call those people White Saviour Syndrome.
Dr Duess was an absolute awful man. He cheated on his wife when she had Cancer and she eventually committed suicide but her suicide note didn't say anything bad about him so that his fans wouldn't know the kind of person he truly was. He later went on to marry the woman he had been cheating with.
how is John Lennon supposed to be one of history's best people considering, for starters, his ego?
Who would've guessed a narcissistic asshole has a dark side?
Looking at you too, Bono (pun intended).
@Samantha Dunn but then he (Lennon himself) thought the Beatles were more popular than Jesus for starters
We are all the products of the times we live in. Just as what was acceptable 100 years ago isn't now, what we view as morally acceptable now will undoubtedly be questionable 100 years from now.
Many physicist today would claimed that physics might be vastly different without Einstein.
His insight on relativity is groundbreaking to say the least..
"You got this, Dad. Booty call!" Gandhi
For all of you complaining about the people not on this list. It's List25 not List250.
8:23 I liked his song Right Here Waiting for You!
Always a interesting list 😉
Whew! I was so nervous Mike or Tristan were going to be on this list...you guys are my heroes,
Aristotle didn't think much of women was your number #1? WTF? Almost every man was guilty of that in his day; and for most of the time since!
So I'm going to be a bad person because I'm not going to my father's funeral?
You forgot Errol Flynn. I can't even go into what he did throughout his life without getting iratly angry and wanting to desecrate his grave.
He was very handsome and knew it, but what did he do??
Read David Niven's biography coz he was his best friend n flat mate
You can find a lot of biographies about it. Deplorable human being. Charlie Chaplin had nothing on that man and Hollywood let him get away with it.
Got curious one day and looked up the origin of the saying "in like Flynn". Disgusting man indeed.
If you're looking for a perfect human being you'll be disappointed your whole life.
Nelson Mandela cheated on his first wife multiple times, and beat her up when she confronted him about this.
And this you know how? The most public information is that of Winnie cheating on him with now EFF party member, Dali Mpofu. Upon Mandela's return, he faced ridicule from this and could only last in the marriage for a few years before calling it off.
@@kmodiselle1 witness accounts, dude. And the fact Nelson Mandela admitted it
Dear Author, What Jesus DID say, was " Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone" , but then we wouldn't have this list, would we ?
Is it casting stones to remind other that all people have faults or have done bad things .... Celeb idolatry is a pervasive problem in the us. This tends to lead us to forget their downsides while unabashedly praising them.
And Jesus himself had a lot of flaws, if you've actually read the Bible. NOT the gentle soul so often depicted talking to children while holding a lamb.....
It still doesn't make none of those things right. 👍
The thing about Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. is that he (like more genuine leaders than we want to accept) could bring together the scattered ideals of others and unify them. One of his best quotes, *_A genuine leader is not a searcher for consensus but a molder of consensus. _* is simplified version of that ideology. Jesus Christ also did the same while adding his own words as well, which we are all to do. Also, Abraham Lincoln changed those views on black people on visiting both the battlefield and nearby cemeteries of Gettysburg when he accepted Jesus Christ as Lord. Lastly, the irony that so many Leftists (John Lennon and Karl Marx for example) are some of the most racist misogynist slime on the planet should surprise NO ONE.
I don't see where you have been making any new 25 lists. I hope you bring this back soon!
Some Greeks had higher estimate of females as Athena was the goddess of wisdom, also of disabled as Hephaestus was disabled and the god of logic, also called by Romans Vulcan where we get Star Trek character Mr. Spock a Vulcan that likes to emphasize logic. On Star Trek Romulans had planets Romulus and Remus that were supposed names of founders of Rome. So much of Star Trek is based on mythology they even encountered Apollo in one episode. Romulus also was recorded as killing his brother Remus, so not a role model either. After Attila the Huns death his sons fought against each other and his empire fell apart. So history is filled with flawed people.
Long story short: Even famous people are just people and they all have their failures.
Moral of the story: Don't put anyone on a pedestal.
And that's excusable?
Can't fact check all of them, but the Ghandi one is very missleading. He went to bed late at night after being told to do so by his Uncle. After being by his father's side for a long time, a few minutes later he died.
I think you're fascinating! Thank you!
Wow... we're all flawed human beings. Brilliant list. -.-
What about Walt Disney being anti-Semitic?
Karl Marx is "one of history's best people"? What is wrong with you...?
It was comedic how the father of Communism had a dark side of missing his dad's funeral.
A bit like mentioning that Ted Bundy didn't really appreciate women.
I knew Mr Rogers and Bob Ross wouldn't be on the list. I'm also happy bot to see Louisa May Alcott, a childhood icon.
Freud was definitely a great influence on understanding the hidden mind, but many of his theories were influenced by misogyny. AND, he allowed money and zeitgeist to influence how he treated and viewed real problems his female patients had with abuse. Everything else pails in comparison to dismissing abuse and then forming theories based on pressure rather than evidence.
Typical shrink.
Lyndon Johnson had affairs I heard. And used to show his "junk" to reporters and bragged about the size of it.
Does anyone consider Johnson one of "History's Best People" though?
Maybe that’s how ‘Johnson’ became associated with that male appendage. Better than a roster analogy.
@@dalesaylors9251 Maybe.😆😆😆😆
Seabass Cribel it’s was actually JFK that positioned the USA in Vietnam. Our involvement started as a ‘Police Action’.
Newton did Hook so dirty 😂
I agree that women have a different place than a man in a proper family structure but not that they're of any lesser value; in a sense, they're of MORE value. Without a woman, a man is incomplete. The men do the physical work in and out of the house, teach various life skills, etc., but the women nurture the family, raise/educate the children with meaningful values (schooling included), teach how things are to be taken care of in and around the house and on one's person, but both parents never hold back their unending love and affection for eachother and the family. These values make for a successful, happy, and fulfilled family that doesn't end up growing apart.
Wow.
I wouldn't call someone I murder my best friend. But maybe I'm different?
"Each man kills the thing he loves"
William Shakespeare.
@@benjamintaylor3934 yea. Probably because I'm a monster, incapable of love that I don't kill
I have a friend who feels this way about Hayao Miyazaki and can make him sound like number one
Humans are often idealistic we want to believe great musicians and great athlete ‘s are great people but often this is not the case.
Weird question. Is this channel your "career"? Or do you have another job? And is it just you that records and edits the video and the research and everything? Or how many people does it take to put it all together?
Ik. Probably sounds weird. Just kinda popped in my head I guess?...lol 🤷♀️
Lincoln's colonization ideas predated Emancipation. By the end of the war, he had abandoned them.
Abraham Lincoln is one of the most profound stories of personal growth in American life. He went from a racist free-soiler in 1858 to a full on good guy (per Frederick Douglass, whose judgment I trust in such things).
Interesting and surprising list you guys 😦🙂👍
#9 November 1996 she had an exorcism less than a year before her death!
BUDDHA ABANDONED HIS FAMILY TO LIVE IN THE FOREST
I didn't attend my father's funeral either. My mother took a nervous breakdown, our car was fucked, and no one from his side of the family did not make the trip to come and get me. 😭
The mlk bit is propaganda made by the fbi
Precisely
2:45 to be fair back then the age of consent was much lower so instead of it being underaged it was a average age
Yeah, well that doesn't make it ok. It's still discusting. I think the same about certain countries. Age of consent being so young is just gross and wrong. Nothing anyone says will ever change my mind about that.
Some states 15 and 16 or even younger were age of consent. Elvis Presley met Priscilla when she was 14, and Jerry Lee Lewis married a young cousin which was 13 if what I read is correct.
And they were all wrong and gross! Just because something is legal does not make it morally right. They knew they were messing with children! None of that is excusable!
@@DesiGalCrochet thank you. To men it's all about sex. But to a female it's emotional and it messes them up as they get older
9:06 Mandela also participated in some horrible things before being imprisoned. I believe included committing or overseeing murder.
Me: Drinking milk and admiring Napoleon Bonaparte.
List25: Also, Napoleon Bonaparte participated in midget porn!
Me: Milk splashes everywhere. Childhood ruined...
Actually Nepoleon wasn't a midget he was 5'9 average height for his time
Hi Mike! Was researching this list as much of a bummer as I suspect?
At 12:01
Mike: He was treating everyone like *bleep*
Me: I know, right?
4:12 Racism is racism, no matter what race the instigator is and what race the target is. I’ve encountered racism from both black and white people. The white people have mostly claimed it as a joke, but still
Love this video ... Millennials discover all people have flaws, and act like nobody else knew this. No ones perfect including the person writing this message (me), the person reading this (you) nor the people making this video.
My parents always told me that Nelson Mandela was a terrorist and nothing else. It wasn't until I entered high school, where I learned of apartheid and what you're "supposed" to think about him. Not even gonna talk about the irony of the whole situation with non Africans living in South Africa today.
GOD BLESS YOUUUU !!!! ol'abe , didnt care/couldnt / never cared , about the blacks. TRUTH IS HE ALLOWED THIS TO BE ADDED , FOR VOTES!!! get woke ppl.
One thing i have found out about famous and "Great men" and now women is that they may have been great at what they did but were not family people, to put it lightly
When I heard that Lincoln quote and perceived that a different way. Perhaps he was saying if you think that slavery isn't bad then nothing is.
U r the best with nothing unpleasant
Cahes Clay.....said it , TRUE !!!! ❤
Who are your sources for this information?
Actually Jesus or correctly Josuha barJoseph never said that
You could say that the line "nobody's perfect" is a paraphrase of Paul's words in Romans chapter 3.
Saying that communities of Jews have customs which make them unpopular among gentiles is not antisemitism; it is simply an observation.
I disagree with the #1 pick. Everyone at that time viewed women as second class citizens, including men, women, children, and slaves. That view continues to this day. Think about how often men versus women make the top 25 lists... GIRL POWER!
Hmm. Maybe that's why Solitaire became known as, "Napoleon at St Helena." He kept cheating at things so he had to play alone.😂
Should retitle it to best people in some peoples opinion. No way of knowing who best people were probably people we never heard of.
I think I really only recognized less than half on this list, kinda shows how much I care about other people.
You know you’re probably making people angry. Lincoln was known to have said something that should be so obvious but simple. He said “A man should not have the right to Own another man. And John Lennon was not nearly as bad in life as people who are jealous because of his talent! As the Beatles were such Hugh band and everyone , especially young Girls. The liked them for something most boy did not. .