Konnan on: the REAL reason for Bret Hart's heat with Kevin Nash
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DAVE LANDAU talks about the mysterious disappearance of ARTIE LANGE and where he might be ua-cam.com/video/9BgNB1RBA8Q/v-deo.html
@C 1983 K100Questions@Gmail.com... nice timely response
I always loved how the Kliq guys like Hall and Nash buried Bret by saying he was a mark for himself whilst their buddy Shawn was refusing to lose at the same time and just giving up the belts. Pretty funny to me the hypocrisy
You realize Hall and Nash have both stated Shawn is a prick too right? I bet if you go back and review Bret and Shawn though, you'd find Shawn did more jobs than Bret. Bret didn't want to Job for Hogan, Bret didn't do it for Nash why do you think he had to beat Bob Backlund? Did Bret ever job for Sting? www.liveabout.com/bret-hart-timeline-2787645 Why don't you take a look at his massive Ego. Scott Hall jobbed for Sting, Flair, DDP, Goldberg, Piper, he jobbed for Jericho, he made Disco look good.. But Bret Hart? Of course not, the business was too real for him. It gets tiresome to see Bret fangirls get so butthurt when the dude gets called out for what he is.
@@genocidereaper1 well firstly Pritchard has stated they had Nash beat Backlund because they didn’t want to beat Bret so that’s one. Bret put over Sid(twice) Yokozuna, Shawn(who then refused return the favour thus the “lost my smile”, Bob Backlund just to name a few. If Bret had refused to job for Hogan in WCW do you honestly think Bret had the political power to do that? Bret had a big ego no doubt I’m not denying that
Nash has taken shots at HBK for doing the exact same stuff.
@@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL Oh absolutely but Bret did business more often than not. He may of taken himself too seriously at times but Montreal aside which was just a cluster of a situation anyway, he put people over when it mattered. Win or Lose, Austin, Owen, Shawn, Bulldog etc etc
@@ant0586 Bret screwed bret
Bret and Nash had a really underrated match at the 1995 Royal Rumble. Excellent match.
i remember it being really long. Their Survivor Series rematch was good though.
Nash's best match at least top 3.
Yeah his Diesel days were on point. He slowed down later tho
A testament to how good Bret Hart was.
Bret could work magic on anyone.
No one got better work out of Nash than the hitman.
Something even Nash has admitted.
Hogan in 1999
Bret vs diesel from Survivor Series 95 is a classic. Their King Of The Ring 94 match is an great underrated match!
Bret carried his worthless ass.
Bret hart could have a solid match with fridge box in 97
Nash was so boring!
It's always interesting hearing these takes (especially because it's K-Dawg and D.I.) because I grew up in the 80's watching the programs. I don't watch much wrestling any more, but what's fascinating is the business side of the industry. I don't have an opinion on who was right and who was wrong. Thanks for the content.
stay tuned for more coming soon.
Undertaker has never confirmed this story, so this idea of Taker being mad at Bret is only coming from Nash (you can find the clip by looking for Nash on Kayfabe Commentaries).
But Bret had a point - At that year's Royal Rumble, Undertaker tombstoned Bret and was about to win when Nash interfered at the end, saving Bret's title. Then we had the cage match at the very next ppv between Bret and Nash for the title where Bret was supposed to be jackknifed right before Undertaker would interfere and cost Nash the match win. Bret didn't want to take the jackknife because he was defending his position as world champ by saying, "You're burying me before Wrestlemania by having me semi-lose two title matches before I'm supposed to outright drop the belt to Shawn." Is that not a fair point? Nash doesn't think so.
Yet Nash, in that entire Kayfabe interview, gave a double-standard about being the world champ. He talked about when he was champ at Wrestlemania 11 and how he was mad that he and Shawn weren't the final match on the card (Lawrence Taylor and Bam Bam were), when Nash blatantly said, "Nothing should be higher than the world championship," right before he went on his tangent about how Bret (the world champion at Wrestlemania 12) needed to put over Taker and Diesel, and their undercard match, at the cost of him (Bret) looking weak.
And to the point of Nash and Hall both not really liking Bret behind the scenes, they have both talked about how disappointed they were with Bret because they wanted more money out of Vince. Bret was the top guy above both of them, and he refused to ask for more money himself. Nash and Hall could never make more (make more than Bret, especially), so that's why Scott left for WCW and eventually convinced Nash to leave as well. Scott has complained that Bret only ever cared about winning matches, while Nash has complained that Bret never cared about putting anyone else over (which are two insane, separate statements).
This info is all over UA-cam in pieces here and there, and it's all laid out with the Kayfabe guy's interviews. So, you can definitely find them easily. But the point is, Nash resented Bret, and was friends with Michaels and the Kliq. Bret was the hottest wrestler in the world going in to WCW (having just gone through Montreal), and people with influence in that company buried him. Listen to any non-biased interview about Bret and how everyone says WCW was so screwed up as a company that they wasted what Bret could have brought to them just because their main stars resented him (while those same main-stars are the ones who ran WCW into the ground).
Undertaker has never confirmed the story to who?
@@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL To anyone. Nash says "Undertaker yelled at Bret to think of other people besides himself." Undertaker has never confirmed whether this story is true or not and/or if he ever said that to Bret. This story is all coming from Nash's mouth and no one else's.
Right, and it all sounds like no big deal. We as viewers like to hang on every word from a shoot and set their feelings into stone. But just because they all had a disagreement while trying to protect themselves mean there’s any heat. Nash has said it was the final straw for him leaving, but he was just tired in general and wanted something new
Taker & Bret were super close so I doubt it was that big of an argument. That’s is if it actually happened the way Nash Laid it out.
Plus, Taker was a Face and Nash was the Heel, it doesn't surprise that Bret was willing to put Taker over as having him 'beat' but not Nash.
BRET HART, IS THE TUPAC OF WRESTLING.. HIS STORIES NEVER GETS OLD
Huh? Tupac drew money
Tupac was cool and he wasn't overrated garbage like bret
I'll say this though, WCW did make a mistake of not booking Bret vs Scott Hall at Starrcade 97. Neither guy was booked in a match yet were both there for the show anyway. It would have been a cool way to start Bret off.
that would have been great.
@Koffin Radio by then it expired. he had a broken hand.
Ya that is a good iea, on top of that Hal dont give a shit about doing the job most of the time, so Bret could of came in and got a nice win.
@Koffin Radio i did not know that. I guess that explains it.
Koffin Radio he didn't have a no compete until January. No competes don't allow you to appear on television at all, and nobody credible has ever mentioned a no compete clause in relation to Bret after Montreal, including bischoff and Bret himself.
The only reason I might not put Bret at #1 of all time is Randy Savage. Granted, neither one is Disco Inferno or Konnan, but they each had such great matches.
@Keepin' It 100 OFFICIAL
Bret Hart's relationship with Kevin Nash is strange. He said in an interview back in 2015 & to this day that he always liked Nash but he never liked HBK & Triple H.
it's hard to tell with Bret, he switches opinions a lot
Bret has always said good things about Nash, the only time he changed his opinion and said something bad about him was when Nash said that the Montreal Screw Job was a work. Bret called him an idiot for that but otherwise he has always put over Nash and vice versa. If you look at their respective social media posts over the years they have posted multiple pictures with each other and have wished each other Happy Bdays and other pleasantries.
@@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL think you have him confused with hbk...
Bret said something like, he thought Nash had talent and tried to build him up e.g KOTR '94 and RR '95, but he thought Shawn sandbagged Diesel at Mania 11.
@@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL I think that’s quite the opposite he seems to say the same thing all the time , I have watched almost every shoot on UA-cam lol 😂 nash & hall are the degenerates come on?? Those 2 specially hall lies through their teeth , I don’t mind them as wrestlers but let’s be honest with our self Bret has stayed consistent with pretty much everything he’s said...
I heard this story from the Undertaker. This shows me that Bret Hart truly understands his fans and what they want and expect from him. What you guys don't understand is that it is all about him, to his fans. You don't have to mess up someone's rep in order to get things done. If more people understood the fans like Bret did, then they would have figured out a way to setup Undertaker and Nash without messing with Bret, they would have figured out a way to have the Undertaker win the championship from Bret then give it to Shawn instead of the screwjob, and we would actually have a worthy end to the Streak.
Regardless of what really went down and who had the pencil, wasting away Bret Hart signing with WCW might go down as the worst travesty in pro wrestling history. The story practically writes itself. Unbelievable.
tell me what you know about Bret's contract though.
I don't think so. At the ti.e the WWF was humiliating all the Wrestlers that had jumped ship so I think WCW was just getting even by making one of their biggest stars look average. Can't blame em
Find it hard to believe Undertaker spoke to Bret like that as they are very good friends
You've never gotten angry at a friend and yelled at them?
Undertaker was set to win a match against Bret Hart at some pay-per-view I think it was and Bret Hart refused to do it. It was a push for Undertaker. Undertaker said Fine, I will do the job and lose to Bret. Undertaker beat him on another night. I heard it in a shoot interview on UA-cam.
Someone's never had a friend
Love the show keep on keeping it 100
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The only thing Brett truly has a right to be salty over was that when Nash became a Booker at WCW he continued the trend of WCW bookers not properly Using his talents
Nash didn’t have the book when Hart got there. That happened much later. Get it right !
Best royal rumble championship match in rumble history period
They usually always worked well together.
Just to add a little more to the Brett not taking the powerbomb story. Nash mentioned that it goes back to when Taker had someone else best before Nash screwed them to loose so wanted to have Brett best before he got screwed so it would have the story that they both cost each other the title
Still had that story, not quite as effective and decisive as a powerbomb, but the company is also billing WM12 headline title match iron man match between Bret and Shawn, and I see Brets point on how this makes him look weak and the title match seems a little less important. Though i do like having more guys in the chase for the belt, and is more effective in that time period than champion wins and holds the belt for 5-6 years like it had been up until the end of the Hogan era. That formula was dying out.
Bret did this same angle at KOR 94 with Diesel, brets first ppv match after WM 10. It ended with powerbomb 2 3/4 count and neidhart broke up pin and Diesel won by dq (and the storyline was would Bret have kicked out?) It def came across as Diesel had him beat and this is really Nash first real singles match on TV/PPV and right after his big spot in RR 94. Bret Hart got Diesel over that night big, and technically gave him a W over him. Put him in the main event picture right from the get go.
It would not have helped Bret vs Shawn at WM 12. The actual main event of WM 12.
To take a powerbomb and taker comes up in grab him that would never hurt Bret
That wasn't the point. Back then, the better the card, the better the buyrate and the better the money for everybody. They weren't on guaranteed contracts. Taker had already hit the tombstone on Bret, only for Nash to interfere. So, what would be logical? For Nash to then hit Bret with the Jackknife, only for Taker to interfere. It would have added more to their feud, than it would have taken away from Bret vs Shawn, because they still did the entire finish in that cage match, except the powerbomb. Bret still crawled out. Nash still had Bret on the ropes.
Diesel vs Bret in your house 96 in the cage is one of the greatest matches of 90s. In my opinion Nash's best match of his career
Yeah, 1) there's reasons he refused to lose to shawn and it was well documented. 2) when you're at the top coming in, you don't lose bro....if bret came in and lost instantly, who the fuck would care about bret being there.
Yup that was them trying to bury him simple and plain.
Bret's first WCW match was a win over Flair in early 1998 if I'm not mistaken. Nash didn't have the book then did he?
Nash wasn't booking when Bret arrived, that happened later on.
Until Undertaker confirms that story, I don't believe it.
planning to speak to him soon?
Konnan should have a rap crew that raps over 90's Jungle beats called "Los Aceres".
I remember Bret once saying. "I like Kevin. You just had to get him away from the others and you would see the real Kevin." He went on to claim that he was easily influenced by Shawn and Scott. I cant say what he recall work wise if comments were made, however he did make a claim to Kevin and him always talking about family.
Bret always had to be careful in WWF. He was in the top spot but he was never anointed by Vince who was always trying to replace him with someone else; (Nash, Sid. HBK). Especially in his last year in the company it was obvious if Bret hadn’t resisted they would have pushed him way down the card. The Klik would have absolutely buried Brett if he had let them.
Still Bret achieved alot man. Accomplished alot as a wrestler. Hell of a star man. Overcame the hate and became hof wrestler.
Bret still ended up being thrown down the card. When you're fighting Jerry Lawler and his DENTIST, you've fallen pretty far from WWF champion.
The idea of Lex Luger, a grown professional, jumping for joy that that he gets to pin Bret on TV because Bret, another grown professional, has a history of refusing to do jobs on TV is strangely endearing to me. I agree with Konnan, be careful who you start crap with at the office, because you never know when you need to work not just with them, but potentially FOR them if they're in a spot higher than yours when you come into your next stop in your career.
Amen
Bret may have not jobbed much but Kevin is calling the kettle black. He does remember being WWF champ for a whole year which means he didn't take pitfalls. As a matter of fact from the time they started pushing him in the spring of '94 the only pinfall I remember him taking was losing the IC title to razor at summerslam 94 and THAT wasn't a clean pin. It wasn't until he lost the title he did a few jobs on the way out.
To whom, I may ask?
Bret gave every Kliq member the best match of their career.
FACT!
Why would the champ take the pin when he’s going into the mania 12 main event as champion? Nash had zero talent
Lol, HBK best match was with the Undertaker at WM25 with his match with Kurt Angle in Mania 21 as a close second. Scott Hall best match was againts HBK in the ladder match WM10. Nash match with HBK at Mania 11 and Good Friends Better Enemies IYH is far better than any of his matches with Bret. While Triple H have far better matches with Taker, The Rock, Foley and Austin than with Bret. So your 'fact' is actually horse shit
@@azliahmadzulkifli9483 I agree with you on HBK. I think his rivalry with Bret is mega overrated...Owen had far better matches with him than Bret ever did (and I think Shawn wrestled Owen about three times more often than he ever wrestled Bret). Nash, I disagree. I think Bret brought out the absolute best in Kevin. While his matches with HBK were alright, I think Bret's were better with him. I agree with you on Hall and Triple H as well. While Bret's match with Scott was VERY good, Scott's matches with Kid, Shawn, and even Nash were excellent as well, and probably a bit better. Triple H...sheesh, I don't even remember Bret even wrestling Hunter. Not saying it didn't happen, I'm sure it did, but Triple H really wasn't on top of the card much when Bret was around, and when he was getting up there, the vast majority of the focus was on Bret and Shawn. So again, I agree with you there. As far as Waltman is concerned...man, it'd be a close 3 way tie. Sean has said that Bret was his favorite opponent, but I've seen both Hall and Owen give him some really awesome matches as well. I think I would give the nod to Bret on that one if it came down to it, but only by just a hair.
Bret was 1000x the champ Nash was.
I sometimes wonder what it was like in that locker room in WCW
that's what this show is for
@@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL I just wonder what it would be like being in there because I hope to be a pro wrestler someday even though I have autism
@@rileykazama3145 Good luck Riley!
@@MABMGuitar thanks
Who is Nash to tell Bret Hart anything about doing business.
I'm pretty sure Nash wasn't booking until later in 1998 and Bret had been there a year treading water by that point so I doubt Nash/Bret issues played a part in him not doing much. Basically they had a lot of top guys, some of them would have had to move out the way to accommodate Bret, being WCW none of them would and that left him working with DDP and so on in US title matches a step below the main event,
Nash left WWF cause of Bret? What? Maybe it was because of the guaranteed money, lighter schedule, and contract elevator he and Hall had where they got a pay bump anytime a big name came to WCW. He may have been annoyed by Bret at different times but to say he left because of him makes no sense.
Yeah it doesn't make much sense to me unless Nash, like Bret, felt like WWF saw him as a failure. I did hear somewhere that WWF had a Diesel-'Taker program planned for '96(considering their Mania 12 match and 'Taker's program with Mankind I'm glad it didn't happen). I mean maybe WWF did see both Nash and Bret as failures, but Bret less so.
The story was that Taker wrestled Bret for the belt. Taker hit Bret with the tombstone and had him beat, but Diesel showed up and interfered, costing Taker the match. So, what Taker and Nash wanted to do was have Nash hit the jackknife and make it seem like he too had Bret beat, only for Taker to come out of the ring and pull Nash in while Bret escaped. Taker and Nash wanted to tell the story that both hit their finish and had the belt in their grasp, only to get screwed. Bret didn't want to take the Jackknife, because he felt that he'd already taken the tombstone and this would make him look extra weak, going into Mania. They went back and forth and Taker stood up and raised his voice, saying (paraphrasing) 'Not everything is about you'. Nash's point was that everyone knew Bret was dropping to Shawn anyway. Vince said they don't need the powerbomb, and they did the exact same finish, without the powerbomb.
what was Nash doing as booker?
Failing
Undertaker feared nobody backstage and said it like it is
So taker “ apparently said that” but yet only has said his relationship with Brett was good & alwyas has been and listed him has one of the greatest to work with & some of his greatest matches as well
That doesn't mean two people never have a disagreement.
@@segagenesis7708 well that’s true lol… I am sure they did , but I have heard taker on record multiple times say bret was one of his favourite to work with & one of his favourite guys back stage . Vice versa bret has praised taker as the true leader of the lockeroom . Just nash has the tendency to just lie for no reason lol
Yeah I’m sure theirs elements of truth to the story. Bret was the champion and was getting ready to put Shawn Michaels another baby face over clean in a one hour match at Wrestlemania in which Michaels would also outlast the sharpshooter for some better part of 45 secs. So Bret should have wanted to keep the main event of WM hot, and a face vs face job is something most baby faces don’t want to do because it really says I’m second best.
It sounds to much of a mark thing for Nash to even consider to stay with the WWF over all the money WCW was guaranteeing and for less dates. I mean Nash isn’t a loyal mark like Bret right? he wouldn’t choose the company who made him over a big payday.
I remember the match in question, and I remember it still felt like Diesel had Bret beat (which is a credit to Bret’s wrestling mind over Nash’s) as a Bret fan I felt like damn he was gonna lost that match, and many fans in that era still cared about stuff like that. So whatever effect Nash wanted the match still had without the powerbomb (it’s been so long since I’ve seen it, maybe they did end up doing the angle not sure).
@@danielmelvin4525 I was just saying I think this one dude lies a bit is all I have heard him tell bs stories before. I am a fan of both Bret & HBK/Taker just some of what this guy says is BS. Maybe not all of it tho 🤷♂️
WCW could have still been in business had these guys just put their egos aside.
Naw that merger was killing the company regardless. Bischoff said if AOL said no wrestling then no wrestling at all. Doesnt matter if they were drawing 10 million ppv buys.
@@patrickboian8545 exactly. Only ignorant idiots don't understand that.
no, it was because they were spending too much.
@@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL wrong. AOL did not want pro wrestling in their programming or portfolio. I'm surprised you don't know this.
@@StarCityAudits .... because of the debts that were run up.
do research
All Bret Hart has to say to a Kevin Nash to bury him is “you’re not even on my level” and walk away because it’s true. Hart is a legend, Nash is not.
Nash helped revolutionize wrestling smartass
@@kamfisher1714 Nash ain’t revolutionize shit
If Nash was 6' instead of 6' 10 he would have been at his peak working elementary school gyms in front of 150 fans.
@Damien Jones Clueless nobody in America never even heard of Stu Hart till Bret went to WWF.
@@kamfisher1714 How unless helping putting WCW of our business is revolutionizing. Most considered him the worst WWF champion ever. Name me somebody he made a star, he is more known for bad matches being injured and refusing to do jobs than anything.
Bret Hart in wcw is underrated! I enjoyed his matches in WCW!
his 98 run was great.
@@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL totally agree
He freakin destroyed Dean Malenko!
Bret would do business, but right away should be winning for at least 6 tvs
Funny how bret did business more than Nash ever did.
Really? Because Bret is part of the worst drawing PPV.
Of course WWF champ Bret wasn't going to take Nash and Undertaker's finishers in back to back weeks, just so they could look good for their match at his expense. It was a stupid idea that would have killed Hart's credibility as champ. For Konnan to make it sound like some cautionary payback tale was laughable. Bret did what Nash would have done if someone asked Kevin to take their finish and lay in the ring, ready to be pinned clean, two weeks in a row before a PPV.
What was the "macho incident"?
Here's the thing tho, Bret had a point. He was gonna main event with Shawn and came off a bad 1995. You can't have the champ going into Mania looking weak. Taker/Diesel shouldn't have priority over the main event of Wrestlemania.
even though Bret was still going to win?
@@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL There's winning and then there's Winning. We gotta remember Bret was midcard all 95 till Survivor Series while Nash and HBK main evented. This was Bret 1st ppv title defense and he was the babyface champion. Bret didn't need to be power bombed like Nash wanted.
@@willt8848 Yep, as the old saying goes it's not who goes over it's who gets over. If you're a face that needs a ton of help to win you may have "gone over" but you didn't get over. You just look like a chump that needed help to win.
Nash would never do a clean match with Bret( in WCW i mean,not counting the royal rumble). He would make Nash look worse then usual. He was ok during his Diesel days. But he got real lazy in WCW especially around the Wolf Pack era. Bret never slowed down.
We missed out on Bret Hart vs Scott Steiner because the nwo were one trick pony’s
The In Your House ppv here in Louisville Feb 96 is the final straw for Nash.
i remember reading a that a bunch of wrestlers had a problem with how that show was booked
Their "problems" go back to the WWF days where Bret didn't want to take Nash's finish despite it being a DQ or an interference that would give Bret the win. Bret not wanting to do this for Nash was what eventually made Nash go to WCW. Personally, they've always liked each other. Kevin Nash even said "I don't understand how people can not like Bret Hart" and "Bret made me look like a million bucks" It seems more like a profession/job problems than it is personal as even Bret said he liked Nash and liked working with him. Scott Hall openly admits to not liking Bret at all.
It is always funny when someone trying to get themselves over says "stop being selfish it's not about you" lol.
that wasn't the point.
Shawn refused to do the job first people need to stop with all of that
Kermit should’ve stfu and let other buddy tell the story
😂😂😂😂
Brett is my favorite of all time and I was a WCW guy. I thought it was the greatest thing ever. Turned out to be trash...Geezus...
You can thank the kliq and Hogan for that. They could have buried the WWF but they bitched out
Boom ! Ahhh I love it. Make TShirts please 🔥
I've been saying to Joe Feeney about that for a while.
@@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL I’m not a graphic designer and I don’t have the rights to Konnan©️ or Disco Inferno®️
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It was unbelievable when Bret Hart tapped out to Lex Luger at Halloween Havoc 99 to a weak single crab. Hart looked like such a wimp doing that.
because that move wouldn't hurt?
He never lost by submission in his whole career so that’s why he was so pissed
@@derekimm Glad he submitted but should have been via the Torture Rack!
I don't care what anybody says, but WCW did try to get Bret over. He held their top titles multiple times in a span of a short time. He was was booked to get over on WCW's top guys like Flair, DDP, Sting, Nash, ect. Everybody's gripe is Bret was wasted, but if the fans didn't get behind him, but was WCW supposed to do?
Making Bret do Jobs on a multi-million dollar contract was bad management by Bishoff and WCW. Bret didn't want to do jobs for Michaels because Michaels didn't do business. He should have come in on fire as the true WWF champ and been put over even if Bret was a prick. You don't sign someone to put your enemy organization out of business and then make him do jobs.
Well Nash tells the story but it was Taker, who never complains, never talked shit, was a PRO, looked over & couldn't believe how petty & selfish Brett was being. Said: "MFer, it's not about u, not everything is."
I've always found it funny how hall and Nash say brets a mark but to this day both of those guys are still doing the kliq hand gesture
Nash never had a great match in his life
He did.....when he was carried by another wrestler like Bret Hart.
He didn't have to. He got over with the fans. That's all that matters in this business
Yep, "sports entertainment" and mostly entertainment
@@adamdrake9779 Ironically he was the worst drawing champion in WWE history, so he really wasn't that great for their business at all.
Nash is a legend in his own mind. He thought he was a big star in wcw but all his matches were shit. And going back and watching all the wwf videos of him early on he was garbage. I can see why other guys complained about the kliq. None of them seemed like they worked for anything. Razor was the only superstar in his early wwf days and ironically he was never champ.
I still don't believe Nash's version cause Undertaker has never confirmed this story unless I missed it somewhere. Nash was leaving anyway for the cash which there's nothing wrong with that but he's always used Bret as his excuse for leaving.
Nash was not booking in 97?
I never bought that Nash left because Bret didn’t want to take the Jackknife, doesn’t make any sense really. I think the more logical scenario was Nash was pissed because he was no longer champion and now was getting beat by everyone. He probably saw Taker as maybe a bit older atp and didn’t really want to job to em. Once he got the finish and wasn’t going over that’s probably when his mind was made up to leave
He didnt want to take the Jack knife power bomb
more to it than that, listen to the clip
That’s Disco Inferno not Konnnan
Nash didn't have the book till a year after bret came in
Nash wasn't booking until a year later. Bret has always surmised that Hogan was behind his poor WCW run. Bret and Nash get along well, but have had a disagreement or two. Bret and Hall don't get along as well, but respect each other's work.
Pretty sure Nash wasn't booking till a year after Bret Hart came in
Right
I'm guessing Konnan & Disco might know better
@@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL they mis date on these podcasts quite a bit. I'm also going by what seems to be the general consensus based on other interviews/timelines from their contemporaries
@@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL even bischoff and nash have said it wasn't until 99 that nash started booking.
Nash was definitely booking later. That’s why bret always lies the blame on Bischoff and mainly Hogan
from hogan to nash to shawn... 3 babies that couldn't admit bret was better than them
I think the death of his brother absolutely crushed him amd I remember Konan saying how loved Bret is overseas everywhere amd the Montreal screw job destroyed him that’s just my opinion he was very broken up inside over both things he wasn’t the same after that
Kevin Nash's booking was atrocious, just horrid
And yet Kevin Nash always booked himself to be at the top. Pot calling the kettle black
WCW muurrdered themselves. They didnt properly utilize the wolfpac and they absolutely squandered their time with bret.
You need guys who take themselves too seriously. You need guys like Bret.
Both Bruce Prichard and Undertaker refuted Kevin Nash’s story.
Taker has never spoken about this story. Stop making up lies kid
"He takes himself too seriously" - from the guys who took their group so seriously, constantly thought of themselves, and were happy to bury plenty of great wrestlers and not because it was needed for a story line. I love all of the guys from the Kliq, but their bullshit hypocrisy on Bret has always bothered me, and it was the worst booking to deal with Bret the way that Nash did. It is like how WWE buried most of the WCW talent that would later come into their house, up to and including the worst decision to have HHH beat Sting. These guys constantly thought about themselves and have quite literally shaped the business over the last few decades, entirely in their favour.
And I always heard from Hall and Nash that leaving was more related to the amount of dates that they had to work, travel, and pay with WWF versus WCW. The whole "I left because Hart wouldn't take my finish" is such a weak angle to even play. I'd personally never say that as it just makes him look even more like a baby. Just stick to "I wanted more money, and to not travel and work as often", it's fine and reasonable.
Everyone’s just mad because kevin was smart to save his money and get a decent movie career going
Kevin Nash is one of the smartest money guys in wrestling history.
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Movie career?
@@zeroisnine Nash was in Magic Mike 1 and 2
@@zeroisnine tmnt 2, rock of ages, the punisher, longest yard, magic mike 1 and 2, John wick, and a host of b movies and USA and even a U.K. tv series....he will get a decent sag pension also through all that
Ah thank you for this - I have an ongoing theory about Bret Hart being the predominant reason why that dumb Summerslam count out occurred: I really do think Bret is not as classy as we truly think and that he may have been a huge scumbag behind the scenes. He probably hated Lex and saw him as another Hulk Hogan, and after the steroid shit was all over Bret wasn’t gonna allow his spot to just be ripped out from under him for another semi talent with a better body.
The clique ruined more careers than drugs!!
anyone who says that WCW did nothing with Bret are idiots. The guy signed a CONTRACT to work very few days per year for a ton of cash... they legally COULD NOT USE HIM MORE.
Of all the guys in the kliq Nash is the one guy Bret seems to get along with, at least these days.
On the other side Nash still thinks Bret takes himself too serious but he'll openly say his match with Bret was his best match.
Lugar was jealous of Bret
Remember Shawn Michaels speech after survivor series. Where he says that he ran his ass down south with the rest of those dinosaurs... And the gentleman down there that are not dinosaurs are my friends and they're going to beat the hell out of you
Bret came on late 97'. Nash was booking in Feb 1999.
Yep that’s why you can’t believe anything these guys say. Two of them were there and they cant even get that right.
@@crazyhorsejohnny1974 hey Hughesy? You wanna weigh in on this?
Can't believe these guys didn't know that and they worked at WCW too smh.
I sent my message about Goldberg vs hogan. Let's hope the boys pick it up soon.
i think that mailbag is going up on Patreon very soon today.
Ngl I tend to believe Bret’s side, but given how bitter he is TODAY, I can totally see him just moping around WCW
Kevin was already signed when he lost at survivor series 95
Dang, are there any likeable wrestlers from the 80s, 90s, early 2000s. Not being a douchebag shouldn't be conflated with being a snowflake, and yet all the stories online today portray wrestlers as basically fraternity bros.
Only a handful of people say Bret was difficult to work with. Everyone else loves Bret.
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Well l hardly remember if Bret have actually lost any one on one match while he was at WCW. He basically beat every single WCW legends (Flair, Sting, Luger, Benoit, Goldberg). He never put anyone over when he was at WCW. Bret is so full of himself.
Only Booker T. He really put over!
You're both on drugs. Bret put over DDP twice, Luger, Booker, basically got squashed in that phony match with Hogan, and even lost to Roddy frikkin' Piper. Beyond your memories being hilariously poor, the fact that you act like Bret had any real stroke in WCW at all aside from when Russo came in is uproarious.
@@ShinobiAFC Lol, of course he has to drop the title to DDP, because he was missing from WCW ppv after World War 3 in November 98 through the large part of 1999. He hardly features because he refused to job to the like of Hogan, Flair or any other WCW legends. So he has to drop the title to someone in order to sit on his butt and collects his guaranteedpay check from WCW. Its your memory being poor because u so busy kissing Bret cry baby's ass
@@azliahmadzulkifli9483 Oh look, someone that gets corrected after getting basic facts wrong, continues to thunder on with a load of bullshit. I think the White House just got rid of one of those. You sound like a mark still mad that Bret dunked on America for six months and wanna make shit up in response.
They just say in the clip he jobbed to Luger with a clean win. Also did for Booker T and DDP. Really though do any of the top guys do that many jobs? Bret’s way of getting guys over was showcasing them in a great match.
i think it says a lot about how big the egos of Konnan & Disco are that they are constantly talking about other people having behind the scenes issues yet their own feuds are never spoken about and i assume that there will be many of them due to have toxic they are.
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I mean getting tombstoned at the Jan. PPV and powerbombed at the Feb. PPV isn't the best way to be to going into WrestleMania.
Both Nash and Hall have talked about being the first to tell a lie in the business is imperative. They lie more than anyone but do it first! Its a business built on fake reputation and stories!
He says to Bret ''it's not always about you'', the same guy who did a lot of things that were all about himself, pinning Goldberg for the first time for example...
Back when this was all going down, Nash had already dropped the belt to Bret clean, very shortly after he won it from Backlund.
These guys forget at Survivor Series 1995, after Bret won, Kevin Nash or Diesel gave Bret 2 or 3 powerbombs. That is why Bret wouldn't do it again. Does anyone Google anymore?
Yeah even though Bret won that match it was almost a "heel win", not that Bret needed help or used a chair or a low blow or anything, but acting near unconscious so that Diesel was hesitant to powerbomb him I think is pretty on the line at least as far what's seen as heel and babyface in wrestling. It almost seemed as though Nash was right to powerbomb Bret twice for winning with such a "dirty move".
In brets defense he had looked weak vs taker at the rumble, he was gonna look weak here vs diesel, then he was gonna drop the title to Shawn. So I agree they were burying bret alittle and him taking the Jacknife and laying there lifeless was gonna kill his momentum going into mania vs hbk. Honestly this hart/diesel match shouldn't have even been a thing this close to mania. It should've been hart/taker vs diesel/hbk like at the msg house show a few weeks later, and that's where diesel cracks shawn with a chair, bret pins shawn, diesel goes heel, taker and diesel brawl to the back. Now mania is set, no one looked weak, and diesel/hbk is set up for the following month
Crazy Eddie- the jabroni from Jersey who sold cheap electronics in the 80s? I don't think it's the same guy. Funny though.
different guy
www.prowrestlingtees.com/related/ccwithjoefeeney/crazy-eddie.html
Hogan, Nash, and Hall buried wcw. With those guys having backstage power and their bullshit they took wcw down the toilet. Vince Mcmahon sending vince russo to wcw was the icing on the cake