@chrisreynolds6331 I agree, we've had these kinds of batteries for years, and still using lead acid. I don't get it - but am thankful there are at least some options
@@solarpoweredge I've got a small cyberpower UPS that had a 4.5ah lead acid battery. I replaced the battery with a 6ah LiFeP04. The dimensions are identical so it's an exact fit. I now get over an hour runtime instead of 8 minutes. The only slight issue is that the new battery needs to get quite low before charging starts, due to the very stable nature of LiFeP04 voltage.
@chrisreynolds6331 That is fantastic. I want to do that mod to a rack UPS. The batteries stop working every 1-2 years. It cost 100$ each time, plus labor... yikes.
@@solarpoweredge It makes the UPS much more useful. I try not to draw more than about 120 watts because I don't want to risk tripping the BMS. My workspace and living area draws a maximum of about 70 watts in total so all good. When the unit had the lead acid battery and there was a power cut I only had a few minutes to plug it into a portable power station. So in effect I needed a UPS to run another UPS, which was a pain.
@solarpoweredge That's not bad. The mini servers over here are 8w / 12w / 12w, maybe 5w for the switch. Should be plenty of time to react if anything happens. If this Goldenmate works well over the long term, I hope to save up and get a second one just for the desktop PC :)
My UPS died on me this morning and I need a replacement. The Goldenmate seemed too good to be true but now that I've seen your video I think I'm going to give it a try. I am concerned about fan noise, so we'll see. Thank you!
I've wondered the same thing about UPS batteries. The small drop in LiFePO4 typically have such a small current limiting BMS that they won't support use in a UPS, at least not at fulll output. And then there is the issue of the charge and float for lead acid being applied to LiFePO4. Glad to see a dedicated LiFePO4 unit, even if it means I need to replace existing UPSs. The web page says it is a 24v LiFePO4, and it mentions "PP45" terminals. Normally I'd associate that with Anderson PowerPole 45amp connection. I cannot find a good photo of all the sides of the unit.. but no picture shows anything I recognize as a PP45 or any potential battery expansion. Is there an external battery expansion connection? Have you opened it up to see if the battery can be replaced (or expanded) without soldering and what kind of connector is used?
@Sylvan_dB There is no external connector, but could easily add one. Planning to open it up later to do some mods, had to bench test first. I will share any mods that happen :)
@dalegtube Yes, definitely been thinking about attaching a solar panel to it. Right now it's in my server rack testing with live servers. If I can get the cash, I will buy a second one to do some mods on
@pauldasaniyankey3398 Hello, this is a UPS... it would probably work with your speaker for an hour or two... but a UPS is meant for temporary standby use. I'd recommend getting a portable power station or solar generator instead! Those are designed for mobile and rechargeable power uses. Hope that helps... -Dave
@huisimplicity Interesting, I have never heard the fan turn on even once, that might only happen under heavy loads. There were complaints about the beeper being loud, but it sounds muted to me. Perhaps they fixed it in a later version
Does it have any way of connecting to the computer so the computer can get power status and shutdown before running out of battery? It would be nice to see the watt consumption with the battery full and no load. If you had a Kill-O-watt meter or something like that would be an easy measurement. Nice price too. Its about the price of two lead acid replacement cycles for my ancient APC SmartUPS.
@davidstacer Could not find any way to connect it to a PC to shut it down. Also I plan to measure consumption with a watt meter as soon as possible. For my own computer rack, manual shutdown would be OK as I will hear the beeper and have plenty of time to react. I have used a ton of APC's with lead acid, and bought so many replacement batteries over the years. It adds up. It would be nice to replace them all with LFP batteries some day.
@Hellmiauz Main reason is it's possible the PB charging circuit could damage the LFP battery... in some cases a UPS can be modified to support different battery chemistry. I am waiting to get an old APC UPS to do experiments with in that direction
@lweighall Hi, that depends on how much wattage is running through it and the temperature inside the case (and the room it's in of course). Once in a great while I hear a small fan come on for a while then turn off. That has been rare as I don't push a ton of power through it. Just running a few small Atom based servers. When the fan is running, it can certainly be heard, sounds about like anything else with a fan. If you're planning to push 100-200w through it all the time, my guess is that fan is going to run a lot. Hope these details are helpful :)
@@solarpoweredgethe sla battery in my ups has died again. All I ask of it is basically a 5G modem and wireless so that if power goes out I can remain working (rurally working from home). The UPC is in a family room cabinet (ventilated). Would the sound of this fan be annoying in such a setting?
@mwbeck That modem is probably about 20 watts? Right now mine is running at 35w continuous and I almost never hear the fan for days at a time. When it was summer, if the room was very warm, sometimes it would briefly turn on, then off. Also, I don't think the fan is very loud at all (just my opinion)
Nice to see LiFeP04 at last in a UPS. Long overdue in my opinion.
@chrisreynolds6331 I agree, we've had these kinds of batteries for years, and still using lead acid. I don't get it - but am thankful there are at least some options
@@solarpoweredge I've got a small cyberpower UPS that had a 4.5ah lead acid battery. I replaced the battery with a 6ah LiFeP04. The dimensions are identical so it's an exact fit. I now get over an hour runtime instead of 8 minutes. The only slight issue is that the new battery needs to get quite low before charging starts, due to the very stable nature of LiFeP04 voltage.
@chrisreynolds6331 That is fantastic. I want to do that mod to a rack UPS. The batteries stop working every 1-2 years. It cost 100$ each time, plus labor... yikes.
@@solarpoweredge It makes the UPS much more useful. I try not to draw more than about 120 watts because I don't want to risk tripping the BMS. My workspace and living area draws a maximum of about 70 watts in total so all good. When the unit had the lead acid battery and there was a power cut I only had a few minutes to plug it into a portable power station. So in effect I needed a UPS to run another UPS, which was a pain.
@solarpoweredge That's not bad. The mini servers over here are 8w / 12w / 12w, maybe 5w for the switch. Should be plenty of time to react if anything happens. If this Goldenmate works well over the long term, I hope to save up and get a second one just for the desktop PC :)
My UPS died on me this morning and I need a replacement. The Goldenmate seemed too good to be true but now that I've seen your video I think I'm going to give it a try. I am concerned about fan noise, so we'll see. Thank you!
@white.lodge.dale.cooper Welcome! I am using it to protect 2 servers soon to be 3. Working good so far!
I've wondered the same thing about UPS batteries. The small drop in LiFePO4 typically have such a small current limiting BMS that they won't support use in a UPS, at least not at fulll output. And then there is the issue of the charge and float for lead acid being applied to LiFePO4. Glad to see a dedicated LiFePO4 unit, even if it means I need to replace existing UPSs.
The web page says it is a 24v LiFePO4, and it mentions "PP45" terminals. Normally I'd associate that with Anderson PowerPole 45amp connection. I cannot find a good photo of all the sides of the unit.. but no picture shows anything I recognize as a PP45 or any potential battery expansion.
Is there an external battery expansion connection?
Have you opened it up to see if the battery can be replaced (or expanded) without soldering and what kind of connector is used?
@Sylvan_dB There is no external connector, but could easily add one. Planning to open it up later to do some mods, had to bench test first. I will share any mods that happen :)
Have you considered going from solar panel dc output to Goldenmate dc input bypassing the dc to ac conversion losses?
@dalegtube Yes, definitely been thinking about attaching a solar panel to it. Right now it's in my server rack testing with live servers. If I can get the cash, I will buy a second one to do some mods on
Can you connect a lithium battery to a standard ups to bolster the battery aspect but the lithium battery wont have surge protect on its own?
@Ultrajamz I think it's technically possible! Just have to make sure the lithium battery doesn't get overcharged or overdischarged etc.
Pls can it power Jbl 710 that is 800w and how long will it take thank you for your video and support
@pauldasaniyankey3398 Hello, this is a UPS... it would probably work with your speaker for an hour or two... but a UPS is meant for temporary standby use.
I'd recommend getting a portable power station or solar generator instead! Those are designed for mobile and rechargeable power uses. Hope that helps... -Dave
What are your thoughts on the fan noise? I've read a bunch of comments from different sites where users say it's pretty loud
@huisimplicity Interesting, I have never heard the fan turn on even once, that might only happen under heavy loads. There were complaints about the beeper being loud, but it sounds muted to me. Perhaps they fixed it in a later version
Does it have any way of connecting to the computer so the computer can get power status and shutdown before running out of battery? It would be nice to see the watt consumption with the battery full and no load. If you had a Kill-O-watt meter or something like that would be an easy measurement. Nice price too. Its about the price of two lead acid replacement cycles for my ancient APC SmartUPS.
@davidstacer Could not find any way to connect it to a PC to shut it down. Also I plan to measure consumption with a watt meter as soon as possible. For my own computer rack, manual shutdown would be OK as I will hear the beeper and have plenty of time to react. I have used a ton of APC's with lead acid, and bought so many replacement batteries over the years. It adds up. It would be nice to replace them all with LFP batteries some day.
looks like it does has RS485 connector in the back, but the manual says it is for debugging not for communication.
Why can't a regular Eaton that uses lead batteries use a LiFePo4 battery?
@Hellmiauz Main reason is it's possible the PB charging circuit could damage the LFP battery... in some cases a UPS can be modified to support different battery chemistry. I am waiting to get an old APC UPS to do experiments with in that direction
How much noise does this make when it's NOT on battery? I couldn't seem to pick up any fan noise but I figured I'd ask you Dave. Thanks.
@lweighall Hi, that depends on how much wattage is running through it and the temperature inside the case (and the room it's in of course). Once in a great while I hear a small fan come on for a while then turn off. That has been rare as I don't push a ton of power through it. Just running a few small Atom based servers. When the fan is running, it can certainly be heard, sounds about like anything else with a fan. If you're planning to push 100-200w through it all the time, my guess is that fan is going to run a lot. Hope these details are helpful :)
@@solarpoweredgethe sla battery in my ups has died again. All I ask of it is basically a 5G modem and wireless so that if power goes out I can remain working (rurally working from home). The UPC is in a family room cabinet (ventilated). Would the sound of this fan be annoying in such a setting?
@mwbeck That modem is probably about 20 watts? Right now mine is running at 35w continuous and I almost never hear the fan for days at a time. When it was summer, if the room was very warm, sometimes it would briefly turn on, then off. Also, I don't think the fan is very loud at all (just my opinion)