THIS is Why The Godfather Didn't Want Luca Brasi At The Wedding...
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- Опубліковано 7 сер 2023
- In The Godfather, Don Vito Corleone hosts a wedding reception for his daughter, and one of the men invited is the notorious Luca Brasi.
Vito seems nervous around Luca and Luca, we're told by Tom Hagen, didn't expect to be invited to the wedding. But why was Luca Brasi surprised to be invited to the wedding? - Фільми й анімація
Michael: "So when will I be old enough to hear that story about Luca?"
Tom: "When you're a hundred."
There is only one reason why Luca Brasi was so surprised to be invited to the wedding.
Nobody and that means nobody, including Lenny Montana expected him to pass the audition.
Well, it was a wedding that was mostly for family and the inner sanctum of the Corleone Crime Family. I am guessing that most street soldiers and associates were likely not invited to the wedding. I think Vito kept his distance from the rank and file members of the family at that point and mostly just gave his orders through the Captains and Sonny and Tom. But Luca was their top muscle guy and had been Vito's #1 button man and enforcer for a long time. Showing Luca that respect kept him loyal to Vito and he was very useful doing the families dirty work.
Luca despite being a mad man and heavy hitter was nervous about being at the wedding and was nervous and rehearsing his thank you speech to Vito for getting the invite. Vito was definitely better than Michael at making his key people feel appreciated and valued.
I always remember that scene in the film in which Luca is trying to express his gratitude to Don Vito on the wedding day and that group of the Don's grandchildren come running into the room and Hagen quickly and quietly tries to get them out of there fast as Luca gets flustered and the tension suddenly rises and it looks that something like that could trigger Luca in a heartbeat.
Luca Brasi - the only man that Vito ever feared.
Yes. I remember in the book how Vito acted around Brasi. He was like a lion tamer who has work was a lion notorious for maiming or killing his trainers. Vito wasn't quaking in his boots, but he was watchful and careful.
Especially in the book a complete psychopath
I agree, I would have liked to have seen more of Luca in the movie. Fascinating character and very interesting seeing his interaction with Vito.
Luca is like a large container of nitroglycerin, equally dangerous to your enemies or your self if not handled with extreme caution!
That’s such a creative way of describing him. I’ve always wondered if Michael would’ve been able to gain Luca’s loyalty if he’d survived.
@@danieljohnson2005I think in time he could have but al neri was much better especially for Michael because he could be just as feared and ruthless but much easier to control and less of a mad dog
@@shawnbbunbbbybbb3942 and Al Neri was able to blend in more with civilians. Almost positive there is a video on here about Al Neri and @CineRanter says just that
@@shawnbbunbbbybbb3942 he also had a strong personal code from his time in the police, a strong sense of justice I think it's worded but I could be wrong on the wording
It worked out well that Luca was killed Neri was probably just as strong and also killed for the family but was sane and predictable
It's not surprising that Luca Brasi was taken down so quickly by Sollozzo and Bruno Tattaglia when you think about it. They knew who they were up against and prepared accordingly. They knew a quick, surprise attack was the best way to dispatch Luca since a long drawn out fight leaves too much to chance
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I figured Luca knew his role as a soldier, handles biz but brings in no revenue
Was he just a soldier though? Didn't he report to Vito directly, or was he under Clemenza or Tessio? It has been decades since I read the books, but I thought he was the Don's personal muscle and there were no buffers, so to speak 😏
What revenue would Luca Bring in? He was a soldier, a destroyer & Vito's personal hit man. A damn fine one too.
But delivers something stronger few can kill even less can kill in cold blood and not be bothered by it.
@@aldonelson5757 enforcers usually work loansharking and gambling rackets. Maybe that’s the revenue Luca brought in?
Because in the book, it's made clear that Luca Brasi wasn't actually the family bodyguard who was always around, he was basically their zip -- Someone who was only called upon to take care of things for the family as needed, otherwise no contact
I think when off the job, Luca Brasi was just that humble. He didn't consider himself important enough to be at the Don's wedding. When on the job, he is an absolute terror, clearly, but off the job, he seems like a very humble, peaceful man.
Didn't he murder his own baby doesn't sound very peaceful or same for that matter a very dangerous person perfect for Vito's needs
@@fritzforsthoefel8031 Yup. he was an absolute monster. He is the only person who Vito is afraid of.
In the film, I always read Vito's reaction to having to speak with Luca in his office as annoyance as opposed to being nervous. Adding to the difference in Luca in the book versus the novel, in the film he is more buffonish while in the novel he is terrifying.
This is the only scene from the movie I didn't like. Vito comes across as a dickhead honestly. This is a guy who will do anything for him and he can't even accept his arrival graciously.
Yeah I don't think he would even invite the maniac from the book not around his family
The reason Luca was stuttering in that scene was because the actor that played him Lenny Montana (a associate of the colombo mafia family) was nervous about acting next to Brando and coopala kept it in
Makes a lot of sense since Luca is that nervous in the book during his thank you.
Fun fact; Luca Brasi was played by a Colombo family enforcer named Lenny Montana
Fun Filled Godfather Trivia: Great character actor Timothy Carey was Coppola’s first choice to portray Luca. Carey opted to do a TV thing (unsuccessful) instead.
Bruno Sammartino was the first choice by Coppola because he was 6"1" & 275lbs. Was not scary looking enough
@@aldonelson5757 Interesting. Cite your source-if any.
@@joeyg2860 I once heard Coppola say it & read an article of which I forgot the source. Bruno said it himself
@@aldonelson5757 Thanks. I shall seek further insight.
In the book, Barzini’s name isn’t even mentioned until right before the meeting of the five families. And also in the book, yes it is Luca’s own baby that he has thrown in the furnace.
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Not sure I buy him worrying about thinking Luca wanting a favor.
The impression I got was Vito just wanted all the business over with that day and not batting an eye when Tom tells him he just wanted to pay respect.
Sending Luca around Salazzo was Vito's big mistake intellectually because I cant see even Jackie Jr buying his story
💯 everybody in the underworld knew Luca believed in Vito and nothing else. So Luca who has been Vito's not so secret weapon for decades starts to talk bad about Vito? Even the most lowly associate would see through that charade.
@@georgejackson4426that was incredibly stupid of the Don
Mabey Luca was set up by vito
@fritzforsthoefel8031 not a chance. Vito knew a war was likely to break out after he refused the Solozzo deal.
It's true I was just speculating but mabey vito was loesing trust in Luca and figured it was a no lose situation if Luca was successful he would learn of there plans if not Luca was expendable
Luca Brasi is the nuclear threat that keeps the peace in the underworld and Don Corleone holds the launch code for Brasi, i.e his phone number stored away in a safe.
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What a shame that The Godfather IV was never made due to Mr. Puzo's death. Just finished reading The Family Corleone and think it would o been a terrific picture to make. To see the origin of Luca Brasi's development into a feared killer would be difficult for any actor to accomplish. Who do you think could play Luca in 'Godfather IV'?
Someone should do a movie about Luca. From what I read from the novels, he has an interesting back-story.
I wish they would have had more Luca, like maybe doing stuff for Don Vito in part 2. But the way you talk about him, you're making him sound like Jet Li from Unleashed. Except Vito doesn't need a collar
Luca was no simpleton, he just had very limited understanding of English
He was rehearsing the speech because he didn't want to have to stop and fall into Italian to finish
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Maybe if he was invited and told not to show up, for long term reasons, the ruse Luca played with Tataglia and Sollozzo would have worked
Or maybe cause a false scene at the wedding like someone in the family getting mad at Luca, but its all for show
It wasn't a baby, it was his baby.
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Weddings are intended for family and close friends, those with close ties to the family, so Luca an enforcer a man who's job it is to hurt people being invited made him feel something he probably haven't felt for a long time, joy.
Does the book elaborate on whether or not guys like Paulie and Clemenza and Tessio were at the actual wedding? Paulie especially; he may have just been at the reception party as an employee.
@@B-and-O-Operator-Fairmont I can't remember off the top of my head it's been a while I know they were there in the film version considering Puzo wrote the screenplay I would imagine he kept things close to the books as much as he could. Clemenza and Tessio were his first capo and were essentially the Don's friends so I imagine he invited them out out respect for all they've done for him.
"Ahh my precious michael, I slammed by balls on the fucking closet door."
Luca is 6'6 and 400lbs(As is Lenny the actor playing him.) and represents a full 50% of Vito Corleone's "Muscle'. Meaning Luca could supposedly take on all of the Dons other thugs all at once. But he falls so easily to 3 average "thugs." I know(And have experienced in real life.) that taking someone by surprise and off guard is a huge deal, but you'd think Luca would have easily ripped through those 3 men. I'm 6'2 and about 275 and as you can see in my profile I lift a lot of weights and most consider me to be a big and intimidating dude. But next to Luca I am small. 4 inches shorter and outweighed by at least 125lbs. It just seems like such a waste of one of the best characters in the whole movie...especially if you know he tore through 6 "Hitmen" himself and won the Olive war for Vito and what this giant is capable of.(Killing his own child.)
Can you imagine being on the red eye from New York to Los Angeles seated next to Luca Brasi...
Luca was Top Shelf
The death of Luca was one of the only truly dumb scenes in the movie imho. everyone knows he’s blindly loyal to Don Vito, to the point where a guy like Tom, who is not known to open his mouth stupidly, is dumb enough to say essentially “I can’t stop him from taking revenge..”
So are we to believe this guy, who has a legendary fear factor approaching Keyser Soze levels, is dumb enough to walk into what only seems to be an empty bar ALONE with the implication being that he only serves the strongest and would hear out VS when the risk vs reward of such a meeting is absurdly in favor of Luca getting whacked, and easily, as he is? He’s not Superman, he’s just one guy. I get why this slight stupidity, or rather, laziness, in the storytelling was an effective plot thread, but Puzo is sooooo much more clever than this. It’s anti-climactic how easily they take this guy down, and even an idiot like Luca shoulda seen it coming from a mile away.. one would argue especially Luca should have seen an easy double cross coming if he’s such a man to be feared…
You miss a lot out.
In the book Tom says about solozzo that he is dangerous and has only felt that presence around luca before.
As for many of the elements surround his death I think it was to symbolise the change in organised crime(Vito sending his fanatically loyal enforcer to a meeting where he's meant to be displeased) shows you the don was slipping
It also shows that as dangerous a man luca was that anyone can be had I also believe luca bought into his own hype in regards to how dangerous he was he also didn't expect Bruno and solozzo to come at him how they did he clearly expected a shoot out not to be stabbed then garotted hence why he wore body armor .
Vito made the mistake which if a man like woltz knew about the band leader story why didn't Vito connect the fact that lucas loyalty was know amongst the 5 families? There is also another theory that Vito knew his time was coming and sent luca to his death(he was loyal to Vito because he was the only man he respected and feared) to which meant that if Vito died there's a good chance he wouldn't follow sonny or anyone else
Yeah being such a cold blooded killer would have gave him the ultimate 6th sense for trouble
@@rhysoneill7399 then godfather is my favorite movie. I’ve seen it at least 30 times and basically know the entire script by heart. I read the book (20 years ago) and I cannot believe I’m saying this but, imho, the maxim holds true that the book is better than the movie, which seem impossible to me because it’s literally a perfect movie. The X-factor on why the book was better imho, was that Mario Puzo let us HEAR the thoughts inside of the heads of the characters, and Puzo being so brilliant himself and so gifted a writer, was able to make the thoughts of the characters as nuanced, intelligent, believably foolish, profound, etc as their actions. They really don’t make ones like him almost ever anymore.
But I digress. You point that I miss a lot in your opening salvo, but your arguments are based on your own guesses and hypotheses - ergo, it’s no more reliable than fan fiction. I’ll go statement by statement.
You start off talking about what Tom felt in the book, a completely separate medium. This discussion is clearly about the movie. As I alluded to, we don’t have the luxury of reading people like Tom’s thoughts about the danger he felt around VS.
No doubt the don made a tactical mistake in underestimating VS by sending Luca in the movie. However, in the movie, VS is initially seen as nothing but a lowlife troublemaker by the don (perhaps all the more reason why the don may have been slipping - why would Luca go to a guy who was respectfully and cordially written off by the don on the premise that the don essentially doesn’t dirty his hands with such things as drugs, which as respectfully conveyed as it was, still had an element of backhandedness to the cordiality? Who the f is this guy VS that Luca would betray his beloved don, who to the whole mafia world within that universe, he never wavered from, nor showed anything but loyalty, satisfaction, admiration, and respect? It makes no sense but the script had to work, so it’s not perfect, but it gets the point across that VS was underestimated and means business.
Again, your supposition for luca buying into his own hype is essentially nothing more than your personal head cannon. I’m sure there’s an aspect of that, but I think a stronger argument could be made that he was doing something very foolish, though he wasn’t that bright, because the don ordered him to and he would NEVER refuse the don, even if it meant marching into what might probably be his own demise. Again though, what I just posited was conjecture, though I think it’s the better argument given the story.
The fan theories about the don knowing his demise would come soon and didn’t want someone like Luca working for someone like Sonny are fun to think about, in the way horoscopes are.
So do I miss a lot out, or with respect, do you add a lot in that really isn’t there (but MAY be, there’s just no proof given the script.)
Regardless, I do enjoy how seriously you take it. And it was good food for thought for myself as a fan. I’m not trying to berate you, we clearly love the same thing very much which means we’re on the same side just respectfully disagreeing. Be well :)
Vito set Luca up to be killed
Luca Brasi didn't have the makings of a varsity speechwriter.
Because in this world they live by a hierarchy and Luka is the muscle.
Hes not part of the inner circle
The first books were crazy scary!!!
Would you invite that kind of co-worker/employee? 😃
I think just because of the history Luca had with kids… it was best to keep him away… and after luca’s overdose He was way different
What are you talking about? Overdose? History with kids besides the baby in the book.
@@aldonelson5757 read the family Corleone… Luca was a boss…dude was a few steps in front of Vito… don’t want to give it away just read the book
The 'brains or signature' quote to a version of Tommy Dorsey has always struck me as jarring, something Vito would never say. Vulgar. Not his style. Either older or younger Vito..Moe Green you could imagine, not Vito.... if Vito said something like that at all, it would be coded, buried in indirect language. Maybe it's a 'print the legend' thing. But even Michael seems to believe he said it.
1:46 I've always wondered: Is Don Stracchi the man singing at the microphone in this scene?
I was wondering the same!
@@CineRanter Thanks for your prompt reply! I love your takes on the Godfather, man!
@@CineRanteryes he was there at the meeting.
Your daughter....'s wedding.
It could also be possible that maybe kind of like Hyman Roth maybe he met him while he was younger and took him under his wing you can see video is a few years older than Luca Brasi
According to the Godfather Book: Don Vito didn't really fck with Luca Brasi all like that (he only appreciated him for his talent). Your hammer, and wrench and pliers would _also_ be surprised they were actually invited to your daughter's wedding too! (u know what i mean?)
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maybe i was seeing things but, in the scene where Sollozzo and Bruno Tattaglia meet with Brasi, when Brasi bends over to light his cigarette Tattaglia seems to either notice/see something on Brasi as his demeanor and expression change. was it just me or did Tattaglia see something that convinced him at that moment that Brasi was being deceptive?
6:38 Luca was bacala Sr, _SR._ Bobby's old man, Bobby Sr. was the Terminator, and grandpa bacala was Luca Brasi... but now Louis Bratsi sleeps with the fishes.
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Awesome analysis!!
Luca Brasi is the Boba Fett of the Godfather
Im leaning more towards fear of him not everyone can kill even less can kill in cold blood and not lose any sleep.
I'm pretty sure there was a healthy mix of politicians, capitalists, gangsters, and heavy hitters with their fair share of brutality on their resume. I doubt Luca was the absolute worst, or at least alone in it.
He was probably just awkward, maybe inappropriate in some way, struggled reading social/emotional cues, and carried a worse rep than most anyone else there. And he definitely seemed to have some very real mental and emotional health problems that made em hate himself and feel unworthy of anyone's love or respect, much less a mam in Don Vito's position. Its sad really.
But idk, coulda been a number of things.
One thing I find very interesting is how (especially in the films) Don Vito is viewed as this relatable, very moral man and ethical businessman that just happens to be involved in some mafia schemes and rackets. He's very sympathetic, is portrayed as empathetic, his enemies are always horrible people so he almost looks like the good guy taking em out, he's smart, he always chooses diplomacy over violence (as opposed to Michael who has a similar moral code just with a much more cold, calculating, almost militaristic "the ends justify the means" and "by any means necessary" mentality) almost to a fault, he turns the other cheek when his son is brutally murdered, etc, etc, etc.
To some degree he does seem to love his family and want easy, peaceful business and maybe even to do some good in the world. But when ya really look at it he's a little more complicated.
His kids all look the part but every single one has struggled with one thing or another to one degree or another and none made it out unscathed. If it was one child I'd say "it's unfortunate but it happens" but when ALL of your kids have problems there's a common denominator and thats YOU barring some rare generic thing.
He doesn't wanna push dope but its not cause of what it'll do to addicts, the violence it brings at the street level, the way it destroys families and communities, none of that, its all practical and risk-adverse.
Same with turning the other cheek and choosing diplomacy over violence, its all calculated and viewed as too risky to business and the relationships he's built so it has little if nothing to do with not wanting violence or finding value in life, he just wants to keep business moving and his powerful friends on his side. On a side note to this side note, I actually think if he and Michael had ruled together they'd kinda be untouchable, pops is a risk-averse calculator and son is a war-planning chess master and with Sonny as the go-getter and Tom as the tie-breaker and third opinion with a level head it'd have been trouble for anybody standing in their way for real 💀
He might actually think he can help Luca, but he really just wants em as a weapon and if that means letting what he sees as an ultraviolent madman run wild than then so be it. He seems to have no qualms about it just so long as he stays on good terms with the family.
There's a long list but those are just a few things. Now, I do still think hes a great character portrayed by a brilliant actor who is complex, dynamic, mysterious, and highly intelligent. But I don't think he is this great dude just like I don't think Michael is this horrible man despite his horrible way of thinking. But thats just me.
Man I need to get some secrets nobody knows about this movie. I’m dating the granddaughter of John Martino who played Paulie Gatto lol. I need secrets dammit!!😂
because he is used to being shunned. He is a dangerous psycho. Even the Godfather found dealing with him a burden
If Luca brasi was looking for a favor on that day my guess is it would be nothing less than permission to kill somebody
Luca was just a big teddy bear.
Actually, he was a grizzly bear!
Kodiak bear.
Out of RESPECT
Luca has asbergers…
Luca Brasi did the horses head? Brasi went all the way to LA to do that? Is it implied that the horses head is in the bed the night after Tom Hagen left?
He said it was his idea
Not he specifically did it
Cause Luca is a psycho. Vito is not.
Luca is a pure soldier. The narrator doesn't understand honor among men.
Yes but most soldiers/buttons very rarely get time to spend with big boss.
As we saw in Doni brasco,'.
Luca was brawn and not brain so why would the Don think he could pull off a fake "double cross"?
Because as solozzo remarks the don is slipping.
He also underestimated the turk (Tom remarks In the book that the only time he's felt danger the way he does around solozzo is around luca)
The don wrote solozzo off and he sent his prized enforcer to his doom had he sent some random goon from lower ranks it would've worked however luca is known in all boroughs as vitos top button man/axe murdering psycho
"The Turk" made short work of him.
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