Lewis Structure of SO4(2-) (Sulfate) CORRECT

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  • @thehigherevolutionary
    @thehigherevolutionary 3 роки тому +125

    This video was posted in 2013, but in 2021 - It's helping me to fully ingest some key points I missed when I first took gen-chem in undergrad. Thank you.

  • @shawol373
    @shawol373 8 років тому +112

    You're the only one that made this make sense! Thank you so much

  • @cubexworld1709
    @cubexworld1709 4 місяці тому +12

    Anyone Here In 2024

  • @PatrickBusch0
    @PatrickBusch0 9 років тому +78

    You're an excellent teacher. Thanks for breaking this down step by step and using such clear language! :)

  • @bssgaming5126
    @bssgaming5126 5 років тому +4

    Thanks! This was one of those few videos which was perfect for me. It was crisp and precise and delivered what it had to. Thanks once again.

  • @defeatedskeptic311
    @defeatedskeptic311 9 років тому +5

    For anyone that may be confused, 3rd period elements and beyond can sometimes have their d orbitals become involved in bonding.

    • @64hkal
      @64hkal 8 років тому +1

      +DefeatedSkeptic I don't think people learning this have learned about hybridization and pi-bonding with the lone d-orbital yet

  • @miarathjens6937
    @miarathjens6937 2 роки тому +11

    This is ABSOLUTELY the ONLY video I have ever seen that completely explains formal charges in resonance structures!!!!!! THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU. I could cry of happiness :')

  • @woutuuur
    @woutuuur 5 років тому +5

    This is amazing. Even though English is not my native language I think this will save my exams

  • @teenieweenied
    @teenieweenied 6 років тому +6

    Thank you!!! This helped so much! I was always confused as to why the molecules would become a double bond but now it’s all clear. Thanks great teaching :)

  • @dinieadilah4809
    @dinieadilah4809 7 місяців тому

    the most accurate explanation ngl love it!!!

  • @tabishbeast8271
    @tabishbeast8271 5 років тому +11

    why sulphur has 12 electrons in the outermost shell where u can only have 8 electrons

    • @shaifalipruthi2961
      @shaifalipruthi2961 5 років тому +3

      As mentioned by him, sulphur can break the octate rule

    • @azadalam9228
      @azadalam9228 5 років тому +4

      It has 3d orbital which can accommodate more electrons

    • @andrewcorrie8936
      @andrewcorrie8936 5 років тому +5

      Elements in Period 3 and higher (i.e. periods 4, 5..) can "expand the octet". In simple terms, their outer shells can accommodate more than 8 electrons. It happens commonly in P, S, Cl, Br and I

    • @meetparmar1104
      @meetparmar1104 3 роки тому

      Sulphur has valence shell no equal to 3 so it also has 3d orbital in which it can accommodate extra electron

  • @s.madheshkrishna3352
    @s.madheshkrishna3352 3 роки тому +6

    Oh finally, a sigh of relief. That was a great explanation!

  • @kamaldeka3005
    @kamaldeka3005 4 роки тому +6

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    • @chemistNATE
      @chemistNATE  4 роки тому

      Self teaching is getting huge right now. Thanks for the encouragement.

  • @Kaushal--2211
    @Kaushal--2211 3 роки тому +2

    U say that the formal charge is the number of electrons it brought - the number of electrons it has, but when U calculate that later, the sulphur actually gets a -6 F.C, I am confused ༼;´༎ຶ ۝ ༎ຶ༽

  • @sakama40
    @sakama40 9 років тому +10

    so sulfur has 12 electrons

    • @laceretasaxicola7053
      @laceretasaxicola7053 4 роки тому +1

      It’s an example of expanded octet......one of the limitations of LDS......such as in IF7.....SF6 etc....

  • @meeounadjani3484
    @meeounadjani3484 10 років тому +11

    Thank you very much! I wish you were at my college as a Chem tutor you're so helpful!

    • @chemistNATE
      @chemistNATE  10 років тому +7

      meeoun adjani Thanks! What College, and are they hiring? :D

    • @sakama40
      @sakama40 9 років тому +1

      +chemistNATE
      so sulfur has 12 electrons

    • @jagritbudhiraja6391
      @jagritbudhiraja6391 8 років тому +6

      college? lol i have to study this shit at school

    • @downthrownetwork
      @downthrownetwork 7 років тому

      Yup
      Welcome to crazy lol

  • @j3nnifert
    @j3nnifert 4 роки тому

    only video that i've actually understood thank you

  • @neverchanging8643
    @neverchanging8643 Рік тому

    You explained it in such simple terms thank u so much

  • @shivanirathi3198
    @shivanirathi3198 3 роки тому

    You have really cleared my concept

  • @ramirocastillo5647
    @ramirocastillo5647 9 років тому +3

    great video!! I have a question though... when drawing the lewis structure you put the element with the least electronegativity in the middle? or the most electronegative? my professor told us the most electronegative..?

  • @eshadoshi5467
    @eshadoshi5467 9 років тому +3

    Thank you for the video. I have a question though. Why can't we have 4 double bonds instead and thus only S will have -2 formal charge?

  • @angelinachristine960
    @angelinachristine960 6 років тому

    This was so helpful. I cannot thank you enough!

  • @mcordier
    @mcordier 7 років тому +4

    I'm French and you're my chem savior. Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU.

  • @kiankaveh1158
    @kiankaveh1158 4 роки тому +1

    bro bless up my teacher is too stupid to explain this

  • @isukhdeep
    @isukhdeep 4 роки тому

    But sir you should draw 2 lines to indicate double bond

  • @origamicaptain5664
    @origamicaptain5664 9 років тому +1

    umm doesn't a bond count as 2 electrons? If each carbon brought 6 electrons + the bond wouldn't that be 8 electrons?

  • @WTFisThisN00bDoin
    @WTFisThisN00bDoin 10 років тому +3

    You said that there was only one resonance structure, Would it not work if any of the two bonds were double bonds? in which case there would be 6 structures that fit.

  • @lailakahn826
    @lailakahn826 10 років тому +5

    omg i finally see the light.. thank you!

  • @sabrinasabrine2246
    @sabrinasabrine2246 3 роки тому +1

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  • @alpha27x
    @alpha27x 4 роки тому +3

    I wish I could get him as my chemistry teacher 😍😍😍

  • @sofiastar9197
    @sofiastar9197 5 років тому

    Thank you sir for the excellent explaination

  • @americanbee
    @americanbee 8 років тому +3

    Thank you! I just understood how the formal charges help to get a correct drawing and why.

  • @LoveDayandAge
    @LoveDayandAge 9 років тому

    Thorough and very helpful. Thank you!

  • @banshilal5965
    @banshilal5965 3 роки тому +1

    I am indian ...thank you very much for this video

  • @nounou2665
    @nounou2665 Рік тому +1

    The sulfate ion now does not satisfy the covalency. Sulphate has covalence two, but now in this drawing 4 electron pairs. How is that possible?

    • @boydmckiel8320
      @boydmckiel8320 6 місяців тому

      I am confused by that also. Has 6 valence electrons but how did he get only 4?

  • @shujriz2286
    @shujriz2286 3 роки тому

    If we make third oxygen double bond along with the two we have made. Wudnt it further lower the formal charge.. And sulphur can expand octet

  • @SharpshotTV
    @SharpshotTV 9 років тому

    Very helpful man. Thanks for helping me understand what my instructor didnt. Lol

  • @HindJomail_Ilvbty
    @HindJomail_Ilvbty 9 років тому +4

    THANK YOU
    I finally get it!

  • @meenamathur1171
    @meenamathur1171 2 місяці тому +1

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  • @QWERTYUIOP-kv7bc
    @QWERTYUIOP-kv7bc 2 роки тому

    Shouldn't we also consider number of bonds

  • @parveenaakther4540
    @parveenaakther4540 2 роки тому

    If the other oxygen has 1 bond why didnt u added another 2 bonds bw them

  • @johannahenke6736
    @johannahenke6736 4 роки тому

    finally got it, thank you so much!

  • @Ella-ns9ps
    @Ella-ns9ps 5 років тому

    WHYYYY YOU ARE NOT MY TEACHERRRRRRR WHYYYY .. Thank you so so very very much

  • @adeshgarg9483
    @adeshgarg9483 2 роки тому

    I don't understand in SO4 here 4 is there for which thing either for valency or for electrons . Please tell!

  • @andywolff4617
    @andywolff4617 6 років тому

    How can you have cumulated pi bonds on sulfur without forcing a linear bond geometry? I am especially confused since it has been shown (about 1990) that d orbitals do not actually participate in hybridization?

  • @ShoubhitPA2004
    @ShoubhitPA2004 4 роки тому +5

    You are the best teacher man. Please continue to help people who had almost given up on chemistry !😊

  • @mohiniattimani948
    @mohiniattimani948 Рік тому +1

    Thank you Sir

  • @sarabalhas638
    @sarabalhas638 Рік тому +1

    Wow amazing thank you

  • @thisisjoel691
    @thisisjoel691 4 роки тому +1

    Excellent explaination 💟💟 God bless u sir

  • @CORPSE77
    @CORPSE77 3 роки тому +1

    I think i love chemistry a little bit now :)

  • @tacoman107
    @tacoman107 2 роки тому

    PLZ help with chem. I got some questions.
    1. When counting the original number of electrons, you add the plus two from the extra two electrons. Why is that? Do you just go with it because it's given? Is there a reason as to why the extra two electrons are there to begin with? Like... where tf did they come from?
    2. Why is the octet rule being broken for Sulfur? Is it because of the row it's in?
    3.Originally I thought that once the Sulfur had 8 electrons when connected to Oxygens (at the beginning), the remaining two electrons Sulfur had would transfer over to an oxygen. I know this wouldn't work, but could someone explain why?
    Chemistry is one of those subjects that I consider so easy... that it's insanely difficult. Be it from overthinking or from thinking of something unrelated when looking at chem.

  • @pavithraarumugam5884
    @pavithraarumugam5884 5 років тому +1

    Does this molecule has dative bond?????how???

  • @mironshokhmukhtorov8845
    @mironshokhmukhtorov8845 7 років тому +1

    thank you for your video!THIS IS REALLY HELPFUL!

  • @cristianebastos8310
    @cristianebastos8310 6 років тому +3

    Amazing!! Você explica muito!!! Thank you!!

  • @shobharanjan2952
    @shobharanjan2952 4 роки тому +1

    Excellent 👍

  • @ParinitaRoyPayel
    @ParinitaRoyPayel Рік тому

    Thanks sir, I'm from Bangladesh,,love from my country ❤❤

  • @audreysweeney5338
    @audreysweeney5338 Рік тому

    You didn't count the electrons afterwards to equal 32. Or explain.

  • @meganvelcro866
    @meganvelcro866 11 років тому +2

    Your videos help me SO MUCH! THANK YOU!!!!!

  • @virallobby2133
    @virallobby2133 2 роки тому

    When this video was uploaded I was not that tym on earth 😂

  • @clwoni1414
    @clwoni1414 9 років тому +2

    I understood this thanks to you ! Keep up the good work

  • @ellenbrigitta6637
    @ellenbrigitta6637 10 місяців тому

    Oxygen has valence 6 and it is mention in the video, but why is it written/counted as only 4

  • @olusonainioluwa2366
    @olusonainioluwa2366 5 років тому

    Thank you so much its helped me a lot

  • @jjj1981jj
    @jjj1981jj 2 роки тому

    I got this question wrong on my test. Apparently 2 double bonds is wrong 🤔

  • @streetrider__4
    @streetrider__4 7 місяців тому

    Can you please tell me the number of lone pair and bond pair of electrons in this ion... Please

  • @klear.k2101
    @klear.k2101 6 років тому

    awesome expliantion

  • @pornimadongare5408
    @pornimadongare5408 2 роки тому

    I think this video was made for me only ... ty soo much my doubt got clear ty

  • @shailajapaturi1543
    @shailajapaturi1543 Рік тому

    Hi sir, your videos is very much useful, I have doubt that how can we know that the formal charge should be used & also how can we confirm that the picture of sulphur to oxygen in a single bond is correct or wrong, please can you clarify my doubt
    Thanking you

  • @manuellinnenberg
    @manuellinnenberg 2 роки тому

    How is the octetrule fulfilled on the Oxygen and the Sulfur?

  • @godswillchukwuemeka7592
    @godswillchukwuemeka7592 3 роки тому

    But oxygen brought 7 electrons and had 8 later on
    I don't understand 🙄

  • @abhinavarul
    @abhinavarul 2 місяці тому

    10 year old video and still helping a high schooler like me :3

  • @incredibledews66
    @incredibledews66 2 місяці тому

    But you have not talked about the -2 charge around the bracket

  • @latamakane1063
    @latamakane1063 Рік тому

    24+2 is 26 how did 32 come

  • @jujulayju5266
    @jujulayju5266 9 років тому +11

    so sulfur has 12 electrons

    • @souradeepdandapat8694
      @souradeepdandapat8694 7 років тому

      Jujulay Ju *sulphur

    • @projectblitz7290
      @projectblitz7290 7 років тому +7

      Spelled both ways actually.

    • @jujulayju5266
      @jujulayju5266 7 років тому

      LOL

    • @projectblitz7290
      @projectblitz7290 7 років тому +1

      Yep. Americans say sulfur British English say sulphur kind of like gray and grey. Honestly speak though no one really uses Sulphur anymore. It's obsolete and even google's spell check is telling me sulphur is misspelled as I type this and recommending Sulfur instead. Kind of like how gay isn't used as a synonym of happy, people don't use sulphur to describe the element... unless you're old as dirt. Sorry to the other guy, I mean no harm... just saying...

    • @jujulayju5266
      @jujulayju5266 7 років тому

      yeap. thanks john. :) >_

  • @RoshanVerma77
    @RoshanVerma77 3 роки тому

    But Sir how sulphur can have 10 electrons there.........please please tell me please....I am very confused here please 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺

  • @ananyasukumaran721
    @ananyasukumaran721 3 роки тому

    What about dative bond...?
    Sir I'm from India....I don't see any other videos of you ....but by waching only this video I'm very sure that ur a best chemistry tr.....thank uu sir.....

  • @sarahsalehi8651
    @sarahsalehi8651 2 роки тому

    Thank u so muchhh. What my chem teacher didn't!!!

  • @ananyamahapatra3128
    @ananyamahapatra3128 4 роки тому

    Why must formal charge be as close to zero as possible?

  • @pavithraarumugam5884
    @pavithraarumugam5884 5 років тому +3

    Sir, "Electrons brought" means "valence electrons"????😓

  • @SnapAnime_Edits
    @SnapAnime_Edits 6 місяців тому

    Wow wonderfull I understand it easily

  • @tylertoskan8070
    @tylertoskan8070 2 роки тому

    lets go Mr.oldridge aka Chemist Nate

  • @cassandraknutson
    @cassandraknutson 3 роки тому

    There are more than 2 resonance structures for sulfate!

  • @scarletstudy7634
    @scarletstudy7634 3 роки тому

    So we want the center atom the have zero or close to zero charge, like is that prioritized over the charge of other electrons?

  • @kantilalganage1977
    @kantilalganage1977 4 роки тому

    Thank you😊.

  • @waqaskhan4094
    @waqaskhan4094 6 років тому

    So confusing why sulphur has 10 electrons and how oxygen has 6 valence electrons which remains with him and shares the 7 th how is this possible

  • @nandaraviteja
    @nandaraviteja 9 років тому

    moreover i dont understand this method oxygen must have 5 electrons after making bond with sulphur why did u just put total valence electrons after bonding

  • @samirgupta6035
    @samirgupta6035 3 роки тому

    Bro why is the sulfur not following octet

  • @ramtawonks1141
    @ramtawonks1141 4 роки тому

    Super super teaching👍👍👍,thank you so much sir.From Manipur

  • @hkookh
    @hkookh Рік тому

    This video actually saved my life.. In the today's exam we had that👀

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    @rahafalsahafi6774 7 років тому

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  • @Lemunhead1
    @Lemunhead1 4 роки тому +1

    Bless you!

  • @CORPSE77
    @CORPSE77 3 роки тому

    OMG, THIS IS THE BESTexplanation video ever and the SMARTEST. Omg, I can't believe how simple and clear it is now for me to understand. THANK YOU

  • @asmaesifri6518
    @asmaesifri6518 4 роки тому

    I don't understand why S have 6

  • @sarmaboi2073
    @sarmaboi2073 3 роки тому

    Very gamer of you. Thanks.

  • @mik4elln
    @mik4elln 3 роки тому

    I just saw this right now, thank youu

  • @rezaayoubi9147
    @rezaayoubi9147 8 років тому +2

    It actually has 6 Resonance structure.

    • @64hkal
      @64hkal 8 років тому

      +Sadegh Ayoubi Agreed. There should be six resonance structures if we go through all the possible arrangements.

  • @clinebellbr
    @clinebellbr 7 років тому

    your hands look like a pale version of donald trump's hands

  • @avishkarghodke4205
    @avishkarghodke4205 2 роки тому

    THANK YOU SO MUCH! this cleared my doubt
    especially u even told the formal charge on sulfur

  • @manishavishwakarma4890
    @manishavishwakarma4890 Рік тому

    But how so4 has 2 negative ion

  • @cr-wm8pw
    @cr-wm8pw 4 роки тому

    Hlo ,how to know no of dative bonds?

  • @aspektn.5066
    @aspektn.5066 5 років тому

    Seen once. Shall be seen again.